#tikiwiki 2009-07-23,Thu

xavi

chibaguy: I've just noticed another tiny bug with the displayof calendar related things...

chibaguy

oh, ok.

xavi

See this: http://tikiwiki.org/Tikifest+Workspaces+and+Social+Networking#Calendar

pascalstjean

Thanks Caarrie, yes I saw some of the stuff they are working on with workspaces. Will definitely be using that once v4.0 is out.

xavi

notice the "if IE >" bit below the output from upcoming_events module

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Caarrie

[14:28]

xavi

chibaguy: moreover, there is not mouseover popup on events in the calendar_new module (when inside an iframe, like in that case)

when used outside the iframe, the popup mousover box displays as expected

xavi wishes we could use tiki calendar for easying the task of planning and schedulling some events for the TikiFestBarcelona....
marclaporte: ?

[14:29]

chibaguy

xavi, where is the upcoming_events module?

[14:31]

xavi

chibaguy: the "if IE >" issue is also shown when visiting the normal wiki page containing that module: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/TikiFestBarcelona (note that this in the dev.tw.o site)
sorry, I meant http://dev.tikiwiki.org/TikiFestBarcelonaCalendar
xavi wishes there was some PluginCalendar for internal reuse of tiki calendars...
xavi recalls seing some proto PluginCalendar in 1.10cvs or so... but no idea what hapened to that early proto plugin
s/early/previous

[14:31]

marclaporte

polom

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chibaguy

oh yeah, I see the "if IE>" now.

xavi

hi marclaporte : do you have any idea what happened to that old proto PluginCalendar in the early days of 110?

marclaporte

nope

xavi

oups, chibaguy, I forgot to say. I was using firefox (maybe you cannot see it with IE)
marclaporte: ok. Anyway, we need some PluginCalendar to reuse/dogfood Tiki calendars ... see this ugly workaround: http://tikiwiki.org/Tikifest+Workspaces+and+Social+Networking#Calendar

chibaguy

I'm using Opera, and do see it. Probably also visible in IE. It's supposed to be an HTML comment.
...that got broken somehow.

[14:36]

xavi

it took me 20 min to find out how to add the right params in the module calendar_new and upcoming_events (they don't use the same syntax for filtering for a single calendar!)
marclaporte: what do you think if we (I) try to embed the tiki-calendar.php url for the new calendar I created some hours ago for the TikiFestBarcelona (without side columns) into the iframe for the time being? (in case the popup works this way, Which I don't know, in fact)
I'd like to avoid using google calendars... (even if I've just seen a recently updated googlecalendar mod in mods.tw.o )

[14:36]

chibaguy

Hmm, there are 3 html comments in module.tpl to give IE a br tag. I wonder why only in this instance does one of the comments break. They are used in every module.

[14:39]

xavi

good question chibaguy. no idea myself

[14:39]

chibaguy

Is this correct module parameter syntax: calIds[]=3 ?
from source of dev.tw.o/TikiFestBarcelonaCalendar page.
Could that be breaking the module display?

[14:40]

xavi

chibaguy: :-) That what I meant. That's the syntax for calendar_new. However, for upcoming events, it's calendarId=3 (!).
mmm, dunno... I'll try without it
chibaguy: it seems ,calIds[]=3 is not responsible for that. See nowadays (I removed that param)
and same effect
(well, plugin module needs to be validated again but except for that, same effect)

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chibaguy

ok (that would have been an easy solution for me ;-) )

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xavi

:-)
the mouseover is lost here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index_p.php?page=TikiFestBarcelonaCalendar
when using tiki-index_p.php instead of tiki-index.php !
that looks to me like a bug...
btw, I'll add again the calIds[]=3 param, so that it only shows the expected results
and not all
sylvieg: could we use the same param syntax in both modules upcoming_events and calendar_new for filtering by calendar Id? (see above if needed)

[14:45]

chibaguy

looking at the page source, I can see that html in the module.tpl is getting wiki parsed ;-)

[14:49]

xavi

chibaguy: ?
sylvieg: I mean, calendar_new only accepts calIds[]=3 (as an example), and upcoming_events only accepts calendarId=3

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chibaguy

<!--[if IE]> .... is changed to <!<del><a class="wiki" href="if IE" rel="">if IE</a>>

sylvieg

xavi: what do you watn both an array - or it is the same that is a problem

chibaguy

the -- of the html comment tag is parsed as strikethrough (del), and the square brackets as a link

sylvieg

chibaguy: In which version - I thaught I fixed that recently

chibaguy

it's at dev.tw.o

sylvieg

need to be backport

xavi

sylvieg: why not using everywhere calendarId=X ?

chealer

Kissaki: it does check

xavi

sylvieg, or in any case (if the other syntax is needed for any reason), then using (or allowing) the same syntax in all the modules
hi chealer! :-)

chealer

hi xavi
chealer wakes up

[14:54]

xavi

chealer: what's the colour of your skying boot? ;-)
xavi is willing to look for a set of skis with the same colour as your skying boot :-)

[14:54]

chibaguy

chibaguy thinks xavi may take marclaporte's bug-finder crown....

[14:55]

xavi

:-)

chealer

xavi: it's black, grey and white. it would need hacking to be used with skis though, unless the skis have a snowboard-like binding :)

xavi

nope, I'm not at the position to get that corwn from Marc, honestly :-)

chealer

or rather, with one ski, yeah
oh, is there a bug-finder crown now?

xavi

chealer: you would be the attraction in Barcelona :-)

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chibaguy

chealer, no, not really

[14:57]

xavi

s/the/"THE"

[14:57]

chealer

chibaguy: ah, too bad. one ski and one crown would have given such a style

xavi

:-D

CIA-58

tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r20316 10/trunk/modules/mod-calendar_new.php: [MOD]calendar_new: accept also calendarId param

chibaguy

well, there are other crowns to try....

chealer

I'd like to be contacted before anyone other than me is awarded a bug-finder crown

xavi

thanks sylvieg

[14:59]

chibaguy

I'm all for multiple crowns

[14:59]

xavi

chealer, I would vote for you to get a bug fixer corwn... whenever you get better statistics than sylvieg (sorry, I know it's a too difficult goal for anybody, I know :-) )

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chealer

sylvieg: I saw what you meant by svn merge being a piece of ..... I bumped into so many bugs I finally asked lphuberdeau to (re)do the merge.
xavi: yeah, don't count on it. the crown should stay with the queen

[15:00]

chibaguy

chibaguy imagines a golden propeller beanie as the bug-fixer crown....

[15:01]

xavi

chealer: I fully agree. "the" queen is "the" queen (even if she doesn't like that much being honoured as such)
xavi looks for "beanie" at a dict

[15:02]

sylvieg

I feel like create a site girl.tikiwiki.org - it could be fun
creating

[15:03]

xavi

sylvieg: :-)

[15:03]

sylvieg

I can enroll Marta and Tricia

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xavi

we could request susanne to add some flex to it (like the IKEA woman at their website)
btw, I've just seen the bigbluebutton opensource webconferencing item at the tiki roadmap, and their website. It looks brilliant piece of software, and using FLEX also
</off topic>

[15:04]

chibaguy

xavi, google propeller beanie - iconic geek hat, I think.

[15:07]

xavi

yeah, I found the merriam-webster definition, but I didn't get the clear meaning there....

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chibaguy

image search is best for this one

xavi

xavi needs some better English trainning program, a-la-matrix like
Ahy, got it!, chibaguy, thanks, now I know :-)
like this: http://www.mcphee.com/pixlarge/10806.jpg ?

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chealer

I thought the girls, including colorado, already had a plan for GirlsCore. IMO that's enough on their plate already.

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chibaguy

yep, now just add a tiki logo :-)

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xavi

:-)
chealer: I didn't know that colorado was a girl

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chibaguy

colorado (the girl) hasn't been around for a long time.
Caarrie should definitely join, tho. :-)

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Caarrie

not so sure about that

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sylvieg

come on Caarrie
I do not know exactly what the site can be about ... We can use one pink theme of Gary

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chibaguy

:-)

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sylvieg

- join the team - easy to work on opensource and be at home ... get your kids busy with a tikiwiki site...

[15:15]

Caarrie

Caarrie has no kids

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xavi

:-)

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sylvieg

I am not at all feminist - but I am upset when people ask me .. a girl in opensource? (it happens again at the last tikifest)

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Caarrie

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xavi

well, google and o'really just gave a prize for a girl (from Moodle ) as the best opesource for education hactivist (or something similar). Just read it some hours ago through rss
Penny Leach, I think, author of Mahara portfolio for social networking within educational scenarios (and linked to Moodle community)
fyi
sylvieg and marclaporte (oups, he's gone): I found a copy of that old PluginCalendar (in 1.10cvs): http://pastey.net/118018
sylvieg: do you think that it can be easly updated to work in tiki3 sites?
maybe myself can do that, if you feel that I have a high chance to succeed...
xavi still has the flavour of the failure with PluginR from yesterday.... :-/
that copy of PluginCalendar is from Oct. 12 2007

[15:19]

chealer

sylvieg: right. the man behind this should be ashamed: http://tille.garrels.be/cyberfeministe/gay.php

[15:24]

xavi

xavi is attempting to hack that old PluginCalendar to work with Tiki 3

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sylvieg

xavi: why are you nopt happy with calendar_new .. it is working pretty weel for me

[15:36]

xavi

sylvieg: (3) issues so far...
(1) too small. PluginCalendar might be bigger (as tiki-calendar.php) I guess

[15:36]

sylvieg

http://fhsj.cgcom.com/tiki-calendar.php?calIds=2&viewmode=month&viewlist=list is pretty nice

[15:37]

xavi

(2) you can't move forward of backward in the months through the calendar_new module, while at tiki-calendar.php you can (and at worksapces_calendar module from aulawiki you can since 3 years ago)
(3) it's not easy at all for users to set the calendar ID param (they don't know about it, when they want to add it through the plugin module + calendar_new
btw, wtf! how did you get that???: http://fhsj.cgcom.com/tiki-calendar.php?calIds=2&viewmode=month&viewlist=list
I wish I knew how to display that as a plugin.... (=inside a wiki page, like http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestBarcelona#Calendar )
i.e: calendar is not enabled at tw.o, but it is (and kind of active) at dev.tw.o... that's why I thought in resuing that feature from dev.tw.o through iframe in a wiki page
PluginCalendar would help, I guess, and even more if it's easy for the end user to get the same display as your are showing here: http://fhsj.cgcom.com/tiki-calendar.php?calIds=2&viewmode=month&viewlist=list
^ sylvieg

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sylvieg

http://pastey.net/118020 these lines are added at the bottom opf tiki-calendar.tpl
perhaps this needs to be committed...

[15:44]

xavi

sylvieg: s/perphaps/for sure (I would say)
calendars are not fully user friendly yet, imho, and anything which improves that, if a good step forward
like the two arrows for moving dates (months) forward and backwards at calendar_new
sylvieg: is your example based on tiki 3?
if you commit, I'll add the screenshot which I have ready in local from your site to show that this is possible (and I hope easy) with Tiki ;-)
add it to doc.tw.o/Calendar or similar
I will, I mean
sylvieg, quick coding question: the old PluginCalendar had at the end this line:
return $smarty->fetch('tiki-show_calendar.tpl');
however...
looking at a tiki3 ready plugin, liker PluginArticle, the line at the end is like:
return $article_data[$Field].$add;
so... should I change whatever is returned by PluginCalendar to make it work in Tiki 3?
I can't find any return $smarty->fetch('tiki-list_article_or_whatever_tpl.tpl');

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wouho: "month_delta=+1": I didn't know about that!

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xavi

sylvieg: can you review this code (in short): I tried in local, and it allows inserting the plugin, but it doesn't display the calendar 1 that I created and added event to it...
this is the code for PluginCalendar updated (in theory) to Tiki 3: http://pastey.net/118021
but it doesn't show the calendar... :-/
the code generated and inserted in teh wiki page is this one:
{CALENDAR(calendarId="1")}{CALENDAR}
mmm, maybe the problem is that tiki-calendar.php in Tiki 3 is not ready to use calendarId...
I'll try again with calIds[]= as param of that PluginCalendar

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sylvieg

tiki-calendar_setup does not use calendarId

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xavi

arrghh:
Fatal error: Cannot use [] for reading in /var/www/tiki3svn/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_calendar.php on line 41
what should I use as param, then¿?

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sylvieg

you need at list line 41,42,43 before tiki-calendar_setup

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xavi

line numbers from here, you mean?: http://pastey.net/118021
and what param name if not $calendarId ?

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sylvieg

snif snif ... I lost the admin page on my local ... can not try the wiki without validating it

[16:21]

xavi

:-)
sylvieg, I moved those lines 41, 42, 43 to before tiki-calendar_setup.php and no change. See the current code: http://pastey.net/118022
I also changed param calendarId by calIds (with no square brackets)
and no success
nothing is shown in the wiki page

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sylvieg

me too .. so far no idea .. alot of things changed in the cals
tiki-show_calendar.php does not exist
and tiki-show_calendar.tpl neither

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Kissaki

chealer: what extension does tikiwiki use then? sqlite3? sqlite? pod_sqlite?

[16:27]

xavi

sylvieg: tiki-show_calendar.php does exist indeed in tiki 3

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sylvieg

sylvieg wondering if the short way is to improve calendar_new

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xavi

and tiki-show_calendar.tpl also

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sylvieg

bbl lunch time

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xavi

ok, see you

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chealer

Kissaki: it actually checks for the presence of a function (sqlite_open)

[16:31]

Kissaki

chealer: hm, strange... my local windows system won't display sqlite as an option. Will check it again later/tomorrow
on my remote linux system it worked though/did list it

[16:32]

marclaporte

marclaporte thinks first improvement to calendar_new is to change the name

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Kissaki

(though it failed with a white page somehow)

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xavi

einc? you are right, syvlieg, tiki-show_calendar.php and tiki-show_calendar.tpl don't exist in tiki3 svn (I was looking a untarred copy of tiki 3 from previous times....)
xavi agrees with marclaporte, but it's not enough :-)
^sylvieg

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marclaporte

hahahahhahaha

[16:34]

xavi

xavi looking for the mistery of those two files which seem to have vanished in tiki3svn...
s/in/from

[16:34]

mmmm, weird: tiki 3.0 has tiki-show_calendar, but not tiki 3.1
from looking inside the released 3.0 and 3.1 packages...

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xavi

sylvieg: http://de.tikiwiki.org/xref-BRANCH-3-0/nav.html?tiki-show_calendar.php.html
however, it's not in the released 3.1, not in branch3 svn right now...
I'll try again in my local iwth those files from tiki 3.0

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CIA-58

tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20317 10/branches/experimental/modules-doc/lib/pear/: [FIX] pear/Text locked error prevents any update

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xavi

ok, moving forward: Fatal error: Call to a member function check_script() on a non-object in /var/www/tiki3svn/tiki-show_calendar.php on line 4
any tip?

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chealer

xavi: I don't know what happened to the file, but according to svn, 3.0 doesn't have it neither: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/tags/3.0/

[16:52]

xavi

chealer, yes, I know, that's what I said. Thanks for confirming
it's always good to have some confirmation whith such (apparently) weird changes...

[16:53]

SEWilco2

Any ideas why tiki-download_file is emitting no-cache headers? I commented out the three lines in the code, but it's still telling the cache to not cache.

[16:56]

xavi

SEWilco2: no idea

[16:57]

SEWilco2

Rather irritating to have a PNG that refuses to cache.

[16:57]

xavi

chealer: I've seen that check_script is defined in lib/tikiaccesslib.php . Does it mean that I have to inlcude that lib in the plugin, maybe?
xavi is a very very newbie coder....

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chealer

xavi: I have no idea about either check_script or tikiaccesslib

xavi

ok thanks

SEWilco2

SEWilco2 wonders how one codes a newbie.

xavi

anyway, I mean
:-)
xavi is also a bad English writer :-)

SEWilco2

SEWilco2 could make a joke about tattoos and punchcards. If anyone knew what punchcards were.

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ricks99

ricks99 thinks that xavi's english is better than my. non-english ;-)

SEWilco2

SEWilco2 speaks American and some Romance languages.

xavi

hi ricks99 :-) & thanks

ricks99

gracias
de nada

xavi

:-D