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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03luciash * r20351 10/trunk/lib/commentslib.php: [FIX] commentslib: removed redundant code, use tikilib parse_smileys() instead, translated some code comments to english... is this file actually really actively used ? (couldn't debug) [01:01]
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wookienzneed some help with permissions per page. im getting Db entry erros.
when adding them in for v 3.1 ona wiki page using "Perms" option.
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Kissakiagain? :/ [02:39]
wookienzno, same issue - havent found an answer yet. [02:45]
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wookienzis maketoc standard or a sep plugin? [03:19]
luciashwookienz: stnd. [03:31]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03kissaki * r20352 10/trunk/db/convertscripts/mysql3topgsql72.php: remove table TYPE and ENGINE defs [03:35]
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wookienzluciash: i cant seem to make it work... does {maketoc} pick up headings defined by H1 H2 and H3 ? [03:54]
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luciashyes, defined by !My Heading, !!My Heading Level 2, etc. [04:25]
wookienzso not selection of H1 H2 etc?
in the sandbox entering {maketoc} just prints it
if i change to normal editor it picks it up, just not in WYSIWYG
it would appear i have to use normal editor and it will only pick up all the headings on the first go. subsequent additions wont be picked up.
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wookienzanyone on familiar with JSON and webservice plugins? [05:47]
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wookienzmy normal users can use the add child function which is available to the admin. s this a permission? [09:04]
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chibaguywookienz, I tried to reproduce that (registered users can add child page to structure) and wasn't able to.
(no form appears for registered user at my tiki 3 site)
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chibaguyThere's no specific permission for adding child pages, so maybe the display of that form is controlled by tiki_p_admin_wiki or tiki_p_edit_structures. [09:29]
wookienzok re reading that... my registered users cant add child pages by the "box" and "tick box" in the headr of the wiki page... whereas a box is available for the admin to do so. Hard to explain... [09:38]
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chibaguywell, shouldn't admin be able to add child pages? [09:50]
wookienzadmin can - any other users cant see the "box" to add a child page. They would have to add via (( )) syntax. [09:52]
chibaguywell, the box at the top adds a child page to the structure. The (( )) are just to add a link within the wiki text. That isn't a child page in the structure sense. [09:54]
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luciashpolom polom
luciash needs help with trackerlist plugin O:-)
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chibaguychibaguy stays silent... ;-) [10:08]
wookienzchibaguy: yes the box at the top is dissapearing for all users BUT admin. Is it permission related?
i want o have that box avail to certain user groups.
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luciashchibaguy: thought so :-p [10:09]
chibaguyluciash, I would help if I could. :-) [10:10]
luciashluciash looks like a furry pet at sylvieg %-p [10:11]
chibaguywookienz, try giving the group tiki_p_edit_structures permission. [10:12]
luciashluciash makes a furry pet look at sylvieg %-p
luciash realizes furry pet looks have no effect at sleeping devs :-p
chibaguy: i have managed to "filter" the list of user's friends posts at the SN "user profile" demo site but have to do it slightly different as it renders unwanted white space for users posts which are not the friends
have to do it in either already at php level (wikiplugin_trackerlist.php) or its tpl
currently i check the user friends at smarty level of the pretty tracker wiki page tpl, which is already too late i think
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wookienzchibaguy: worked! thanks. [11:01]
chibaguysure [11:01]
wookienzbut allows then into the structure menu to scre with other things...
is another way to add a child page to have it auto update the aketoc?
s/maketoc
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chibaguyyes, there's no separate perm just for adding child pages.
as far as I know, just the page-top box and the structures admin page.
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wookienzhmm.. om well i guess if they ask an admin to do it then the structure will remain correct, instead of them screwing with it.
chibaguy: whats your knowledge like on structures? essentially i understand that a structure is like a book....depending if you want to print it o not as to whether you need it as a structure or not. or is there other benefits?
maketoc and toc only applicable to structures/
?
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chibaguymaketoc works on any wiki page. toc works just for structures.
structures are good for sets of wiki pages that have a strong hierarchy or sequence. like if you have a tutorial and want the nav links, etc. at the page tops.
structure nav links are good for 'breadcrumbs' kinds of paths.
...down into a hierarchical set of wiki pages, etc.
also I think structure child pages will pick up perms automatically from the structure.
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wookienzok thanks....categories on the other hand appear to eb only good for permissions on a per category state and searching. Am i correct? [11:15]
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chibaguysorry, was afk. well, a good thing about categories is that they are cross-feature, so to speak, so forums, galleries, wiki pages, etc. can all be in the same category.
...so if you use the category block at page bottom, then the user can see what other feature objects are in the same category that's currently being viewed - things like that.
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Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: Images deteriorating - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=34110 [12:17]
chibaguyI hope the tw.o forums get fixed soon. Replies to posts fairly often aren't visible so more replies are made that aren't really necessary.
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34099 and http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=34099
Same initial post but with different reply sets.
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luciashyep, annoying
it's fixed in trunk iirc but tw.o is 3.1 ?
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chibaguyyeah, I think so. [12:30]
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chibaguyhi MatWho [12:53]
MatWhohi how are you? [12:54]
chibaguyI'm doing fine, thanks. [12:55]
MatWhogreat [12:55]
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sylviegsylvieg waiting for people to approve my fix in proposal for the bug on forum irc [13:12]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20353 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] Missing file in previous commit? [14:04]
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20354 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (93 files in 33 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 20274 to 20352 [14:12]
ricks99is thre a way to allow html and/or wiki tags in the "site closed" messages? [14:15]
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SEWilco2ricks99: You'll probably have to alter code to allow HTML. Probably not wiki tags as that has a can of worms connected to it. [14:41]
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ricks99tx sewilco2. have any idea where? [14:43]
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patrickallardHi, is my my code is correct?
In English
that does not function
{if $prefs.user eq 'user'}
{else}
{/if}
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chibaguychibaguy wonders if Patrick needs just {if $user}.... [15:35]
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chibaguyricks99, I get a 404 error at tw.o when I click on your HDTDI-keycontent.org page (using Opera), as if the url rewriting can't handle the dot, maybe. Does this work for other people, I wonder?
(when I click on the link to that page)
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marclaportedev.tw.o down? [15:42]
chibaguyAccording to http://www.downforyoutoo.com/, yes. :-) [15:44]
luciashchibaguy: yes, that's what he needs [15:48]
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crazyghandihello
am I in the right place for a few technical questions about tikiwiki?
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luciashyes [16:12]
ricks99@chibaguy... it *used* to work :( [16:12]
crazyghandicool thx
so is it possible to create a single rss feed on a particular wiki page*
?
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luciashcreate ? [16:13]
crazyghandiso i can subscribe to it via google reader or other [16:13]
luciashyou can put there a rss feed module using a MODULE plugin [16:14]
ricks99@crazyghandi: no, but users watch/monitor a single page [16:14]
crazyghandibut the monitoring is inside the tiki website, no rss ? [16:15]
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ricks99users will receive an email notification each time the page is updated
the do not need to be inside (logged in) at the time
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crazyghandiok
one other question : is it possible to create an empty html module to customize it completely ?
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ricks99if u r trying to include HTML in a wiki page, use the HTML plugin [16:21]
crazyghandiactually i would like to integrate it in the sidebar on the right side [16:21]
SEWilco21ricks99: The HTML plugin still sanitizes some code, right? [16:21]
ricks99y. create a user module, and use the html plugin
see docs: doc.tikiwiki.org/pluginhtml
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SEWilco21crazyghandi: You can create a module which includes a plugin. Or maybe dynamic content would be better? [16:22]
ricks99@sewilco21: i dont think so
does require validation, however
ricks99 thinks that the html plugin will deprecate *a lot* of older plugins :)
@sewilco21: wrt "site closed" message,do u know where to modify to allow html coding?
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SEWilco21ricks99: No I don't know. [16:24]
crazyghandiwhich type of module can integrate an html plugin and how do I configure it ? [16:25]
ricks99you can add the html plugin in any use module. b sure to enable the "use wiki syntax" option. see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/module
ricks99 off to grep tikilib.php....
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luciashiirc module does accepts html by default
so there is no need for html plugin in it ?
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crazyghandiok i'll test it right now thx a lot [16:30]
luciashthe true is it sanitizes "sensitive" html tags however
so you have to workaround it using smarty or go for the html plugin anyway ;)
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crazyghandiworks fine thx again [16:41]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20356 10/branches/experimental/modules-doc/ (39 files in 24 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 20316 to 20355
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r20357 10/trunk/lib/importer/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Tiki Importer support Mediawiki page attachments (not finished yet)
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20358 10/branches/experimental/modules-doc/ (22 files in 14 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 20355 to 20357
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tikiwiki: 03luciash * r20361 10/trunk/templates/tiki-plugin_trackerlist.tpl: no change, code indentation only
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BocochocoHello, is anyone not idle?
T_T
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20362 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/lib/core/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Component to handle category security for object category modification [20:02]
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20363 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/lib/core/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Ignore managed categories when unspecified for compatibility reasons [20:12]
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illegalalienanyone know of a mod or way to add an undelete feature or a recycle bin/archive to tikiwiki?
nobody knows?
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20364 10/branches/experimental/coe/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
tikiwiki: [MOD] Quicktags/Toolbars revamp, part 4 (help)
tikiwiki: Restored wiki help
tikiwiki: Admin destination bars now look like toolbars
tikiwiki: Code needs tidying...
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illegalalien...? [20:19]
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illegalaliennone of you are actually here? [20:22]
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illegalalienmooooooo [20:27]
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tobi_hillegalalien: hi - what about that undelete? :) [20:33]
illegalalienIs there a feature like that that I could enable?
either undelete or some type of recycle bin thing
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tobi_hi am quite a noob with tiki, so be patient with me - but looking at my wiki pages, i see a history, and an undo button [20:34]
illegalalienundo eh? [20:34]
tobi_hundo. :)
then again - could be, that only changes can be undone, and remove not - no idea, as only i can access my pages. ;)
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illegalalienhold on a second while I test this undo buton [20:35]
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tobi_hguess why. :) [20:35]
illegalalienundo seems to revert to the next most recent version of the page
so it undoes the last changes
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tobi_hwhich is what i would expect, no? [20:36]
illegalalienyes
not what I need though :(
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tobi_hwhich is? [20:36]
illegalaliena way to undelete pages that have been deleted
or move them into an archive of some form
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tobi_hah. like "unremove"? [20:36]
illegalalienyes
is there an unremove button?
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tobi_hi don't have one here, and guess that there is none. [20:37]
illegalalien:( [20:37]
MacLeodProbably not, which is why there's a confirmation step before removal. [20:38]
illegalalienconfirmation step doesnt stop dumb coworkers from doing dumb things [20:38]
MacLeodUnfortunately true [20:38]
illegalaliene.g. deleting several months of collected data [20:38]
MacLeodd'oh!! [20:38]
tobi_hthey do that. [20:38]
MacLeodbackup? [20:38]
illegalalienwell they did [20:38]
tobi_hsave early, save often... [20:38]
illegalalieni have a backup, but it would be great to ensure that they dont potentially destroy the business [20:39]
MacLeoddon't give they admin permission over pages
they=them
[20:39]
illegalalienthey dont have it
most of them at least
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MacLeodhow'd they remove the page, then? [20:39]
illegalalieneither i can allow them to remove pages, or i can get lots of emails every day saying "remove this for me" [20:39]
tobi_hdump the db regularly. [20:40]
illegalalienim just going to have them export the page before they delete it
would be nicer to have a more elegant solution
like windows recycle bin for tiki
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MacLeodonly site admin can empty the bin [20:41]
illegalalienyes
unfortunately i can find no such bin
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MacLeodwhy do they need to remove the pages? if they want to remove the data, they can save an empty page. [20:41]
illegalalienI don't understand it either
I think that they are worried about their own stupidity at this point
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MacLeod? [20:42]
illegalalienthey accidentally hit Remove and for whatever reason confirm their mistake [20:43]
MacLeodsounds like they shouldn't have the box of matches [20:44]
illegalalienas far as technology is concerned they should still be wearing diapers [20:44]
Caarriemaybe you should make a group that can be trusted to delete pages and not everyone [20:44]
tobi_hwell, good luck with your users then... ;)
me gone, bye... :)
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illegalalienthank you tobi [20:45]
MacLeodQ on a diff topic: In the who_is_there module, what does it mean to be "online"? Some interaction with the server within the last... what? five minutes? ten minutes? [20:45]
tobi_h|awayyw ;) [20:45]
illegalalienprobably jus logged in within the last X minutes [20:47]
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SEWilco21MacLeod: I can't decide if online means 7 minutes or 120 minutes. [20:50]
MacLeodSEWilco21: I think it's the shorter of the two. [20:50]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03luciash * r20365 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] wikiplugin_tracker (pretty tracker) input: when there is no showmandatory=n param, mark mandatory fields and display the notice (same as for non-wiki/tpl tracker input) [21:01]
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SEWilco21Somehow, I don't think I have that many users on line. Web server statistics suggest maybe 10% of what who_is_there says.
Hmm.. I think I have a log incantation that can let me watch my IPs. No, there are multiple users per IP.
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