#tikiwiki 2009-07-28,Tue

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idle-	good morning. :)	[04:49]
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sylvieg	is the module-docs branch still broken or not? is the pdo/adodb cahnge still broken for windows?	[04:57]
chibaguy	sylvieg, for me, when pdo was added it caused apache to die in my xampp setup, but I installed wampserver (http://www.wampserver.com) and now trunk runs ok. I read that xampp had problems with pdo. we need more feedback from people running on windows, probably.	[05:10]
sylvieg	on my portable fedora pdo kills apache too	[05:19]
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marclaporte	do we kill pdo then?	[06:30]
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chibaguy	marclaporte: pdo is more efficient and faster afaik, and seems to be the way forward, so I'd be for keeping it. But this is a question for the db experts.	[06:55]
marclaporte	My feeling is that it's long term orientation since it's natively supported in php but if Sylvie can't work... modules-docs branch problem that chealer was getting seemed to be svn issues	[06:56]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r20369 10/trunk/styles/ (6 files): [ENH] More-standard formatting. No code changes.	[07:06]
	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r20370 10/trunk/styles/ (6 files): [ENH] Empty selectors removed. No code changes.	[07:12]
	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r20371 10/trunk/styles/ (18 files in 7 dirs): [ENH][NEW] IE rules moved from main theme stylesheet to theme ie6.css and ie7.css files. No code changes.	[07:20]
chibaguy	I hope the modules-doc problems can be sorted out, so that work isn't lost.	[07:27]
	Hmm, actions listed in trunk's file gallery popup: Display, Download, Replace, <div class="iconmenu" -- that doesn't seem quite right. ;-) Still, the drop shadow is cool....	[07:40]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r20372 10/branches/experimental/ws/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Modified tiki-manage-workspaces.php: now it's possible to get a list of all workspaces stored in Tiki tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r20373 10/branches/experimental/ws/templates/tiki-manage-workspaces.tpl: [ADD] Added tiki-manage-workspaces.tpl (I forgot to add it before, sorry) tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r20374 10/branches/experimental/ws/templates/tiki-my-workspaces.tpl: [ADD] Added tiki-my-workspaces.tpl (I forgot to add it before too, sorry)	[10:18]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03axold * r20377 10/branches/experimental/ws/lib/ (profilelib/installlib.php workspaces/wslib.php): [MOD] Fixed more things in ws handler	[12:16]
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sylvieg	ooh the module last_files generates more than 300 queries... on my local	[13:37]
chibaguy	sylvieg, somebody posted about that in the tw.o forum also.	[13:40]
marclaporte	woah!	[13:40]
sylvieg	suppose it is the wysiwyg pkdille added - this is a mess	[13:41]
luciash	pretty tracker wiki page template renders <br /> after every tracker item, can this be avoided ? wow, 300 queries :-p polom polom everybody	[13:47]
sylvieg	I have problem too with that - try to see if it is the lin e 20319 in tikilib.php	[13:48]
luciash	sylvieg: thanks, i will have a look	[13:48]
sylvieg	the parsing of a textarea tracker field adds a <br> at the end - a mess in pretty tracker not sure about the line luciash... muy tikilib is modify	[13:48]
luciash	oops :) line number out of range here :)	[13:49]
sylvieg	it is the else { $line .= '<br />;	[13:49]
marclaporte	marclaporte is testing trunk to find modules bugus bugus = bugs	[13:50]
luciash	not sure, it is no textarea here but the br is there even when empty wiki template	[13:50]
sylvieg	marclaporte: did you see my mesage - I have 2	[13:50]
CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20378 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Applying wysiwyca to categorize and category browser	[13:51]
luciash	sylvieg: hmm, my tikilib has "only" 8745 lines :-p	[13:52]
sylvieg	oops 7230 bad copy paste..	[13:52]
luciash	:) doesn't seem to be that, it happens here with wiki paragraph formating on	[13:52]
marclaporte	sylvieg: I saw your message and it's being processed	[13:55]
sylvieg	thx	[13:56]
marclaporte	modules is not supposed to break much. But the perms-take2 will stir a lot of dust. I think maybe we can take a day at TikiFest and have a parallel bug hunting frenzy :-)	[13:59]
luciash	sylvieg: couldn't it be somewhere else than tikilib ? what does the smarty->fetch(wiki:... do ?	[14:01]
sylvieg	I am still not convince at all with perms-take2 ... need to check lph last commit luciash: do you have a visible url?	[14:01]
luciash	sylvieg: localhost, but it hapens that every submit button of tracker plugin is under the fields (cannot get it on one line)	[14:02]
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luciash	sylvieg: or if i do empty wiki page template it renders line breaks for every tracker item	[14:03]
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ANONYME	HI	[14:08]
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luciash	sylvieg: in wikiplugin_tracker.php there is $back .= $smarty->fetch('wiki:'.$wiki); on line 856 sylvieg: how is it processed then ?	[14:09]
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sylvieg	but the button is outside the fetch>?	[14:10]
luciash	sylvieg: yes it is rendered automatically for every tracker plugin after the all fields	[14:11]
sylvieg	and is there a <br > before the <input?	[14:12]
luciash	but if you wanted for example render all tracker items containing only image field on one line via trackerlist, it also renders <br />s between them sylvieg: nope	[14:13]
sylvieg	so it is a style problem because you have fatch and just after <input	[14:13]
luciash	line 867 it's not style, if you see the page source you see <br />s	[14:13]
sylvieg	I am lost there is BR or not? befor the <input submit?	[14:15]
luciash	it must be something like end of wiki page considered new line... render br there is not BR in the wikiplugin_tracker.php, there is BR in the final output	[14:15]
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marclaporte	sylvieg: switch language works for me on clean install on trunk, with bare-bones profile, and activating i18n and adding module to top right: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php	[14:16]
luciash	sylvieg: sorry, i thought you ask about the source code, not the page source	[14:16]
sylvieg	marclaporte: can yopu try with mode=flags	[14:17]
marclaporte	ok	[14:18]
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luciash	sylvieg: ah, yes, wiki paragraph formating affects it ! when it is on i have it on one line now	[14:19]
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luciash	sylvieg: no BR in rendered page source now before the submit button sylvieg: but...	[14:22]
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luciash	sylvieg: two BRs for every tracker list item (after)	[14:23]
CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20380 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (63 files in 29 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 20352 to 20379	[14:27]
luciash	may be in the trackerlist somewhere	[14:28]
marclaporte	anyone know why dev.tw.o gives semi-white pages when their is a highlight? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1893&highlight=language	[14:30]
lphuberdeau	would call it an improvement over the previously all-white page	[14:31]
luciash	sylvieg: $checkbox looks suspicious ;)	[14:35]
CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20381 10/trunk/db/profiles/: [MOD] No longer used	[14:36]
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chibaguy	marclaporte, I've been using TheNews at dev.tw.o; no problem with that theme when there is a highlight. But in strasa, the page is pretty completely broken in Opera.	[14:38]
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luciash	sylvieg: hmm, nope, cannot figure it out where the BRs get in there	[14:43]
lphuberdeau	hmm... not even sure how mod-change_category is supposed to work... a simple drop list can't possibly handle categories	[14:43]
sylvieg	I can not say without testing - and I never test this setting - but it acn be a missing strip or theis <br/> in tikilib	[14:43]
luciash	ah, missing strip it can be	[14:44]
chibaguy	&highlight=language also messes up Coelecse and Darkroom....	[14:45]
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luciash	sylvieg: but there is strip all around the trackerlist tpl code	[14:46]
tobi_h	marclaporte: wrt the highlighting: see also http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2631 weird thing being here that http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2631&highlight=tobi_h gives me an almost blank page, but only if i am logged in - if not, it works. as i just found out. :/ how does it look for you guys?	[14:46]
chibaguy	For me (using Opera atm) the left and center columns are empty, and the right column is a column width off the page to the right. Logged out, it's ok. And looking at wiki pages with "&highlight=..." is ok. All the themes are affected about the same way.	[14:52]
	heh, using FF and Firebug, I see div#col3 is inside div#tiki-center. That is really weird.	[14:59]
tobi_h	chibaguy: thanks for the verification - that sums it up nicely, the part with the right columns being off to the right had escaped me.	[14:59]
chibaguy	Somehow, highlight is screwing up the template in a major way. (highlight+logged in)	[14:59]
tobi_h	is it worth to update the description of bug 2631, or will someone in the know take it on from here?	[15:00]
chibaguy	Maybe CSS related. Turning off style sheets lets the content show.	[15:01]
luciash	sylvieg: it looks like $smarty->fetch('wiki:'.$wiki); in wikiplugin_tracker.php does work well but the method used for trackerlist in tpl {include file="wiki:$wiki" item=$items[user]} adds the BRs sylvieg: i will have a look at the include of smarty still	[15:03]
sylvieg	luciash: I have doubt because in pretty ytacker you have {include tracker_item_value.tpl} that does not ass <br>	[15:05]
CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20382 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (10 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Removing references to tiki_p_view_categories	[15:05]
sylvieg	luciash: do you have the same result if you use a pretty tracker with a tpl	[15:06]
luciash	let me test	[15:06]
chibaguy	tobi_h, the bug report is probably good enough already.	[15:06]
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luciash	sylvieg: it works perfectly with no extra BRs	[15:10]
sylvieg	So it is the wiki parsing....??	[15:10]
tobi_h	chibaguy: thx, but was at it already - thx also for confirmation! :)	[15:13]
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luciash	sylvieg: must be that any idea what is the difference between templates/plugins and templates/wiki-plugins ? do we have (or plan to have) other plugins than wiki syntax plugins ? is it just accidental inconsistency introduced by someone ?	[15:17]
sylvieg	everything should be tempaltes/wiki-plugins but with the tpl overwrite - not easy to move	[15:20]
luciash	tpl overwrite ? there are also several templates/tiki-plugin_*.tpl :-/	[15:21]
sylvieg	yes you can overwrite the tpls for a style (I do not know how to make a generic upgrade script for that	[15:21]
marclaporte	sylvieg: I now see a problem with swicth lang module on trunk: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php (even without flag param)	[15:22]
luciash	maybe not generic but upgrade specific would be good for those few files sylvieg: or just a note this file was moved/renamed to this... at worse the old tpl files will not be just used for the people who customized styles	[15:23]
chibaguy	about the tracker highlight problem, apparently not css-related after all.	[15:24]
luciash	and tpls	[15:24]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20383 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] More permission clean-up, re-adding admin_categories	[15:25]
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marclaporte	luciash: : can you make a Tiki logo without "3" in it? My 4.0 install looks weird :-)	[15:26]
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luciash	anybody can... someone already did by removing the ".0" in it ;) my disk had a crash with the source file... need to get it again from somewhere wait, maybe i have it here yup need the Gentium font here	[15:27]
CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20384 10/branches/experimental/ (modules-doc/ perms/): [KIL] Cleaning up dead branches	[15:33]
luciash	installing	[15:34]
	Tiki 4 or Tiki ?	[15:41]
chibaguy	How about one of each? :-)	[15:41]
luciash	haha	[15:44]
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luciash	why not to use tikilogo.png ?	[15:45]
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chibaguy	yeah, maybe so. But maybe people want the version number - I don't know. btw, the tracker highlight problem at dev.tw.o - I don't experience it at a couple other tiki 3 sites.	[15:48]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r20385 10/trunk/img/tiki/tiki3.png: [MOD] not version specific Tiki logotype	[15:52]
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chibaguy	but it happens at doc.tw.o also.	[15:54]
luciash	same server	[15:55]
chibaguy	yeah	[15:55]
luciash	amette ping what does our "sysadmin" say ?	[15:55]
chibaguy	tw.o also has the problem.	[15:56]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, tw.o is better known as http://tikiwiki.org or the official website of the project.	[15:56]
chibaguy	heh	[15:56]
luciash	well, that's different	[15:59]
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sylvieg	lphuberdeau: File: lib/modules/modlib.php Line 524 file_put_contents() [function.file-put-contents]: Filename cannot be empty	[16:00]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r20386 10/trunk/img/tiki/ (powertw.gif tikibutton4.png): [KIL] obsolete images	[16:01]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r20387 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: notice	[16:07]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 notices, as ordered to.	[16:08]
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chibaguy	Tiki 3 tracker with highlight works on my wamp server....	[16:09]
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marclaporte	tks luciash chibaguy & luciash: I prefer to avoid numbers to make it future-proof and not to disclose additional info to hackers Good hackers can figure out version number in other ways I know	[16:32]
luciash	sure :)	[16:47]
	sylvieg: only way how to avoid the BRs i found is this hacky way :-p → to put {include file="$tpl" item=$items[user] assign=echoit}{$echoit\|replace:'<br />':''} on line 173 of tiki-plugin_trackerlist.tpl sylvieg: but the tpl param instead of wiki is good enough alternative too ;) where do we define the template resource for wiki: ? http://www.smarty.net/manual/en/template.resources.php in Tiki	[16:57]
CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20388 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (21 files in 7 dirs): [MOD] Cleaning out tiki_p_view_categorized and resolving countless permission inconsistencies along the way	[17:05]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20389 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (30 files in 18 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 20379 to 20387	[17:26]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20390 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] Anonymous group not always granted to anonymous users it seems tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20391 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/lib/wiki/wikilib.php: [FIX] is_editable function tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20392 10/branches/experimental/coe/ (10 files in 6 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] Quicktags/Toolbars revamp, continues tikiwiki: Plugins show name on toolbar (in a green box) tikiwiki: Separate definable toolbars for comment areas tikiwiki: Smilies and special char pickers fixed for jQuery and imports tiki-smileys.tpl removed tikiwiki: Filter by wiki, wysiwyg or plugins on 'All Quicktags' admin list tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20393 10/trunk/modules/mod-change_category.php: [FIX] Missing global tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20394 10/trunk/db/ (7 files): [FIX] Missing drop tables	[17:35]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20395 10/branches/experimental/coe/ (30 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] Quicktags/Toolbars revamp, continues tikiwiki: Some new icons for wikiplugins, more to come (probably after the merge)	[17:54]
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CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20396 10/branches/experimental/coe/ (96 files in 39 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 20321 to 20394	[18:41]
luciash	marclaporte: LOL, i completely forgot about the phantom ;)	[18:44]
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marclaporte	hehe	[18:47]
CIA-57	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r20397 10/trunk/img/tiki/tiki3.png: [FIX] forgot to remove the "phantom" 3.0 glow ;)	[18:50]
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marclaporte	sylvieg: do you still have issues with modules? my latest svn up seems to solve everything	[19:22]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Add a custom drop-down menu to tiki-editpage.tpl - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=34133	[19:28]
SEWilco2	Is there something like strip_tags() which will strip out wikimarkup? I'm getting wikimarkup in my tiki_objects descriptions.	[19:31]
luciash	what is the slowest feature in Tiki ?	[19:35]
SEWilco2	luciash: I suspect we won't know until automated testing can do timings of the features.	[19:39]
luciash	SEWilco2: i have no idea what is tiki_objects description and how it get there, but you maybe want http://www.smarty.net/manual/en/language.modifier.regex.replace.php	[19:40]
SEWilco2	luciash: It took me a while to find how tiki_objects description was getting there. Turns out that merely including a certain .php caused a local variable to be pushed into database. :-( From reading the code it is not obvious that $cat_desc ends up in the database when the following is encountered: include_once ("freetag_apply.php"); But I was hoping there already is a wikisyntax remover. As the database is involved, I'd rather not use a Smarty function. Nobody is answering, so either one does not exist or nobody who knows is reading at the moment. Off to the hunt I go.	[19:41]
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luciash	sylvieg: what location do you recommend for pretty tracker tpls ? templates/custom/ ? or templates/trackers/ ?	[20:24]
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SEWilco2	luciash: I think it depends whether they're part of the distribution. "custom" implies non-standard.	[20:59]
luciash	they're not part of distribution now but could be used by a Profile via Profile Installer	[21:01]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Wiki Syntax is not working for me - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=34135	[21:39]
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chealer	polom DSL is working, for the minute being	[23:01]
	what does "electric switches" mean (as seen on http://tikiwiki.org/Tikifest+Workspaces+and+Social+Networking )	[23:08]
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chealer	bringing "bed spread and sheets. 2 sets for double-bed inflating matresses." means there are 2 double-beds, so we need to talk together to bring the right amount of single vs double bed bed kits, right?	[23:40]

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