#tikiwiki 2009-08-16,Sun

marclaporte

polom

chibaguy

(& installed redirect plugin at themes.tw.o for the "themes" page)

luciash

great

chibaguy

hey marclaporte

luciash

polom marclaporte !

chibaguy

btw, luci, great new report you two made.
new -> news

luciash

i think now it looks better with the cold option too... the top bar now makes the viewport of *.tw.o sites look better imho, spearating the header from the browser (mostly grey by default) UI
chibaguy: thank you
chibaguy: can you put simmilar top bar to themes.tw.o to easilly access back to the community, dev, doc, sites ?
chibaguy: i am not sure what version it is but i hope it shouldn't be a problem ?

[08:49]

chibaguy

yes, I'll do that.

[08:52]

luciash

cool, tnx

[08:52]

chibaguy

I can image, in the future, maybe even have some images up there for better visual clues about the other project sites.
(maybe should do a mockup/prototype)

[08:53]

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tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r20863 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_split.php: [ENH] Switch table class from normal to normalnoborder, since content-layout columns don't usually have borders.
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20864 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Changing toolbar defaults. sub & sup are less important than flash, html and help. This will still change as the toolbars feature evolves.

[08:54]

luciash

chibaguy: maybe good idea, but i'd like to keep it simple and uncluttered
chibaguy: can you change the wording on the other sites too ?

[08:56]

chibaguy

ok
yes, simple is good, so the overall page, etc., would have to be considered.
anyway, things are definitely improving. :-)

[08:57]

luciash, another thing I wanted to check on: in the multiplayer plugin, .flv files don't play in non-Firefox browsers, due to (I think) an empty "mp3= " string that comes first, when the file is .flv and not .mp3.

Please see http://zukakakina.com/Mediaplayer_test

So could there be a check first to not print the "mp3= " if the file type is .flv?
(If you view the page in FF, the multiplayer plays the .flv file; if you view it in Opera or IE, it doesn't.)

[09:03]

luciash

i will check it

[09:05]

chibaguy

Ok, thanks.

[09:05]

luciash

eh, too wide page :)
theme clubcard

[09:06]

chibaguy

ah, Firefox doesn't wrap the code; I'll check the arguments on the plugin.
...that's better.
thanks

[09:08]

luciash

thx too
ok, just add on the line 63: ELIST=MNUCT STATUSMSG=@%+ EXCEPTS are supported by this server[B
oops, sorry, bad paste
:)

[09:11]

chibaguy

[09:13]

luciash

ok, just add on the line 63: if (!isset($params['flv']) && !empty($params['mp3']))

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[09:15]

luciash

chibaguy: maybe better → if (empty($params['flv']) && !empty($params['mp3']))

[09:18]

chibaguy

ok, thanks, I'll upload the edited file....
Yay, success! :-)
Works now in Opera at least. If you have IE running, can you check?

[09:20]

luciash

i don't have it running here currently
marclaporte: ?

[09:24]

chibaguy

OK, I'll dust off my old laptop w/ie6....

[09:25]

luciash

LOL

[09:25]

chibaguy

and will check that and also the tw.o page top

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20865 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-profiles.tpl: [MOD] Changing from __install a profile__ to __apply a profile__ to better convey the message that a profile is more like a coat of paint on an installation, than an installation.

[09:35]

chibaguy

ok, mediaplayer works in ie6 :-)

[09:36]

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20866 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php: [FIX] Probably all broken, alpha is unlikely to work with colon separated numbers

[09:39]

chibaguy

but bad news about the tw.o site in ie6: the login bar (which is 100% wide) has come loose and drifted up to about the middle of the Tiki logo, just under the search form.
also the new top links appear to have a br tag or something that is causing the height to be double.
I checked strasa at zukakakina.com and it's still ok in ie6

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chibaguy

well, I don't know where the topbar menu went, at tw.o in ie6. It isn't visible, that I can find.
(I need to recall the strasa css, etc. for IE6 to figure out what might have happened.)

[09:43]

luciash

aye :-p

[09:44]

TomasWVolf

hi, i have question. Is in tikiwiki way to output all off pages in same category in some kind of list?

[09:44]

chibaguy

TomasWVolf: Category plugin will do that.

[09:45]

luciash

TomasWVolf: yes, category wikiplugin, module or tiki-listpages

[09:45]

TomasWVolf

thx :) i try it :)

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luciash

chibaguy: i thought easiest for strasa header could be fixed min-height (height for IE6) and position: relative and then all the objects within it positioned absolutely
chibaguy: apparently it's not that easy as it seems or we just messed it up too much
then the rest after the header would need to be positioned with margin-top == height of the header (obviously)
so i think, there's really no other way than fixed height header

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20867 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] fix to avoid having these features being turned off accidentally.

[09:53]

luciash

(no min-height with overflow: hidden probably and pixel-perfect positioning of the stuff within it)

[09:55]

chibaguy

well, for a theme to be distributed, I think it's best to be able to accomodate all kinds of logo sizes, etc....
...but maybe for strasa, we need to break that rule, and have a fixed header height.
at least until ie6 dies. :-/

[09:56]

luciash

well, what is the main reason to have it like that (different from other themes) ?
the loginbox position ?

[09:57]

chibaguy

yes, probably, iirc
having the menu up in the #header-top also made complications, I think

[09:58]

luciash

well, maybe this could be "fixed" by placing loginbox out of the header (after it) in default header.tpl
menju on top shouldn't be a problem as you can place it with position: absolute on top and just give the same value of the height of the menu as padding-top to the site-header
of course then all the other themes' CSS have to be adjusted to position the login box absolutely again to have it appear "inside" the header... the question is if this would be easier task, than trying to position it under the header in strasa

[09:59]

chibaguy

We have to think about this, and go for the simplest solution (obviously ;-) ).

[10:06]

nicolamr

Where is the function allocated which transforms html to wiki?

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20868 10/trunk/tiki-setup_base.php: [ENH] Remove 12 useless calls to the xss filter on every request and gain around 12% performance

[10:07]

luciash

chibaguy: wouldn't things be much easier if there was #bar {margin-top: height-of[id='foo']} ? ;)
chibaguy: in CSS
chibaguy: maybe in CSS4 ;)
nicolamr: isn't it within tikilib ?

[10:08]

chibaguy

heh. I suppose we will be still looking for ie6 kludges when CSS4 is here....

[10:09]

luciash

hehe

[10:09]

nicolamr

luciash: It's a long file. Do you know the function's name?

[10:09]

luciash

nope, try ctrl+f "html" several times ;)

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tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20869 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
tikiwiki: [KIL] Removed feature_purifier (HTMLPurifier option)
tikiwiki: Only checked in two places (tikilib: creating or updating wiki pages in html)
tikiwiki: where it always should be purified surely..?

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tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r20870 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mediaplayer.php: [FIX] .flv files weren't playing in Opera and IE. Thanks to luci for the fix.

[10:19]

nicolamr

Is there a function to reset the wiki? To delete all pages and dependent data and if possible reset the ids?

[10:20]

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20871 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] remove __Tiki 3.0__ as browsertitle by default on new installs. Let's avoid to show version numbers for security reasons and to avoid risk of forgetting to update a version number.

[10:22]

chibaguy

nicolamr: no, I don't think so, unless you do a total database re-create.

[10:25]

nicolamr

chibaguy: wouldn't like to loose all settings and users etc.

[10:26]

chibaguy

right

[10:26]

nicolamr

but have to try the wp importer...

[10:26]

chibaguy

did you try it on a fresh, empty tikiwiki installation?
(I assume so, to test the importer....)
I'm kind of curious: why import wp blog posts to be wiki pages instead of blog posts?

[10:28]

nicolamr

chibaguy: because I've actually been using the blog like a wiki: updating older pages, using them as a reference, using wikilinks. AND I prefer structures rather than plain chronological order. Eventually I decided that for me the best option is a wiki with a blog-like homepage, to show what's new.

[10:41]

chibaguy

I see.

[10:43]

nicolamr

IMO wiki pages and articles should be tracker items as well...

[10:45]

trackers are so abstract that they could integrate all wikipage functionalities...

[10:51]

luciash

nicolamr: there's no history of changes in trackers
nicolamr: one of the crucial functionalities of wikis
and also others...

[10:52]

nicolamr

What about modding trackers in order to letting any tracker field/column to be optionally "historical"?

[10:54]

luciash

you are welcome .)

[10:58]

nicolamr

[10:59]

luciash

chibaguy: fixed in 3.0 ? → http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2021 ?

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[11:14]

chibaguy

luciash, yes, it's working ok, but the image quality is bad, at least at my site.
(only GD library found)
(if the slideshow uses that)
Actually I wonder why the filegallery has its own slideshow/interface, etc. Why not consolidate and use the colorbox?

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tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r20872 10/trunk/ (34 files in 34 dirs): [FIX] Correct typo: missing space (thanks, Marc Laporte)

[11:29]

luciash

chibaguy: already done in trunk ;)
chibaguy: using colorbox

[11:35]

chibaguy

cool

[11:39]

luciash

chibaguy: have you already tried colorbox in trunk ?

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[11:48]

chibaguy

yes
in file galleries browse images...

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20873 10/branches/experimental/lesser-magic/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [MOD] Add a note about the feature

[11:57]

luciash

fine :)

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nicolamr

Does anyone know how to use the commentslib::post_new_comment() function? What parameter is what? (mainly: objectId, parentId, message_id)
What kind of ids do you use? Why would you explode( ":", $objectId, 2);

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tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r20874 10/branches/3.0/ (33 files in 33 dirs): [FIX] Correct typo: missing space (thanks, Marc Laporte) (trunk #20872)

[12:04]

nicolamr

oups. sorry, read the "Don't paste code". Won't happen again.

[12:05]

chibaguy

nicolamr, I think short pieces of code are ok :-)

[12:06]

nicolamr

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luciash

one line code is ok

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20875 10/branches/experimental/lesser-magic/ (119 files in 69 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 20847 to 20872

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nicolamr

Is an object's id = "tablename:id"? e.g. 'wiki-pages:1'?

[12:23]

luciash

sorry, no idea

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20876 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_center.php: [ENH] Add missing icon to PluginCenter

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20877 10/trunk/ (37 files in 11 dirs): [NEW] Adding dynamic preferences backend and preference search

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nicolamr

can I move an installed tikiwiki in another directory?

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chibaguy

nicolamr, yes, all the paths are relative.

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nicolamr

would you put it in the root directory

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20878 10/trunk/ (lib/prefslib.php tiki-admin.php): [MOD] Add feedback to dynamic preferences in admin panel

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chibaguy

yes, I would, if it's the main software for the site.
Anyone else notice in trunk when a page loads, there's a kind of "flash", like one second long, where things go blank and then the page reappears?
luciash, I tried the zukakakina.com/Shadowbox_gallery wiki source in trunk, with interesting results. Some of the syntax works and some doesn't, etc.
The width and height and title parameters aren't working. The three-images in sequence work nicely, though the window doesn't resize.
Probably the syntax can be adjusted.

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tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r20879 10/branches/experimental/coe/ (111 files in 59 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 20837 to 20876

[13:27]

luciash

chibaguy: yep, it has to be done yet

[13:27]

chibaguy

(Maybe that "flash" during page display is only in Opera; I don't notice it in FF)

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luciash

chibaguy: doesn't resize you mean the images do not resize when changing browser window ?

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chibaguy

I mean with shadowbox, if you have images of different sizes, the box size increases or decreases to wrap closely to the image. In colorbox, the box stays one size and the images (if bigger than the box) produce scrollbars or (if smaller) there is white space between the image edges and the box edges.
(This I noticed from using Shadowbox_gallery wiki page in trunk.)
In the file gallery, when browsing, the colorbox goes nearly full height of the viewport no matter how tall the image is.
....so there's white space above and below the image, in the box.
In the colorbox demo, this doesn't seem to happen. (The box height changes depending on the image.) So maybe there's a small problem with the Tiki implementation.
Colorbox demo: http://colorpowered.com/colorbox/core/example1/index.html
Maybe this can be changed with a key/value change in the script(http://colorpowered.com/colorbox/)

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chibaguy

luciash, about file gallery slideshow in trunk, at least in my local wamp server, it isn't working...
the first image displays, but not scaled, only the top-left corner, and there are no thumbs or controls.

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tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20880 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] General improvements in Toolbars - editing and deleting custom tools etc

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luciash

chibaguy: goddamn, lemme check

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nicolamr

Tried to install tikiwiki on localhost (fresh xampp), but it redeclares zend_filter_interface

[13:54]

luciash

chibaguy: do you have slideshow enabled for file gals ?

[13:55]

chibaguy

yes

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20881 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Moving 8 major feature preference settings to use dynamic preferences http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences

chibaguy

are they working normally for you?

luciash

chibaguy: tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=1&slideshow
works for me

chibaguy

ok, maybe a problem with my wamp install.

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luciash

chibaguy: tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=&slideshow
doesn't
(missing galleryId)

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chibaguy

For me here, with that url I get a full-size window, but still the same image result: top-left quarter of an 800x400px image (a test image) and no thumbs or controls.
Clicking on the images in tiki-list_file_gallery works well with colorbox, as with shadowbox before. But the slideshow doesn't work here.

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luciash

chibaguy: cleared teplates chache ?
i have several jpegs here and the slideshow starts nicely in the popup window
there are no thumbnails implemented in this colorbox slideshow (i think it is not necessary anyway though, is it ?)

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chibaguy

I'll do that. Well, I checked a trunk install on my hosted domain, at it works well, except small imags are scaled up to fill the available space, which isn't too attractive. ;-)
(Maybe this installation is old, tho, if there aren't thumbnails yet. I have thumbnails.)

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luciash

oh, right, didn't checked with small images

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20882 10/trunk/lib/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] More performance improvements

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luciash

there's no plan to have thumbnails in the slideshow
thumbnails only in browse image in file gallery

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chibaguy

ok, I need to update that installation yet.

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luciash

s/image/images

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20883 10/trunk/tiki-setup_base.php: [ENH] Adding a place for standard parameter filters and removing the last call to XSS filtering on every call (an other good speed improvement)

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20884 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [MOD] Restoring side by side preferences

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nicolamr

Where do I upload a mediawiki dump? I know where the file is (/import/), but where is the page, the form?

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marclaporte

nicolamr: which version of Tiki?

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chibaguy

luciash, I updated my hosted trunk site, and see that the file gallery slideshow works pretty well.
Maybe there needs to be a minimum width on the colorbox frame to preserve room for the controls to display. Also the popup window may have to be manually enlarged if the images are larger than its default size.
But, overall, pretty neat ;-)

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20885 10/trunk/lib/setup/perms.php: [ENH] Only handle permissions for enabled features (saves 10-15% on reasonably enabled profile, more on smaller sites)

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nicolamr

marclaporte: I just downloaded it. 3.0 I guess. I had to disable xampp pear to be able to install it. And I found the import page (tiki-import_wpdump.php) but I had to look for it in the dir - no link in the admin menu.
I meant tiki-import_mwdump.php

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marclaporte

nicolamr: 3.0 MediaWiki importer is not quite there
nicolamr: : suggest you try 4.0

[15:33]

nicolamr

But there is one...
Ok, let's see what you've been developing :)
marclaporte: Where can I get it? And if I get it, can I use it online or is it secret-instable?

[15:34]

marclaporte

http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Download#Pre_release_packages_zip_files_
it's somewhat stable
if you stay in "old" features, it's pretty good
if you try the new stuff, well....
4.0 MediaWiki importer is freshly developer and Rodrigo is looking forward to feedback

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20886 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] Moving feature_categories preference setting to use dynamic preferences
tikiwiki: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences This is a great way you can help,
tikiwiki: yes YOU :-). This operation needs to be deployed hundreds of times.

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nicolamr

:) Thank you. But, can I use it online, legally, before it is released?

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Caarrie

it is open source nothing can stop you ;) but bugs

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nicolamr

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marclaporte

free speech and free beer

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chibaguy

nicolamr, if you want to run trunk on a live site, it's good to have another trunk installation where you can verify that things work first, then copy the files, etc. to the live site, rather than immediately going live with development files without testing.

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luciash, just checking tw.o in IE7: the log-in form is up in the white bg area, so contrast is bad, then below that is the log-in background (going full width of page), then below that is the menu.
whatever the kludges were to make strasa display ok in the IEs clearly aren't getting along with the new arrangment at tw.o. :-/

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chibaguy

What bothers me isn't so much the tw.o case, but that the custom code should be usable, in general, in all themes and browsers. If it isn't, then the tpls and/or css need to be changed.
Maybe what you said about Strasa having a fixed-height header div is the answer here.

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tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r20887 10/branches/experimental/coe/ (100 files in 30 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 20876 to 20886

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20888 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [FIX] typo

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luciash

chibaguy: maybe :-/

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Kissaki

too much code...

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nicolamr

I can login as Nicolamr and as nicolamr, but if I am logged as nicolamr I cannot edit the feature request I created...

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Kissaki

lol

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20889 10/trunk/ (css/admin.css templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl): [FIX] Extra divs not required when CSS can do the trick

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tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20891 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] More on object perms
tikiwiki: Group inheritance implemeneted on objectperm checkboxes.
tikiwiki: Link to group object (management) perms from admingroups.
tikiwiki: Removed redundant "view perms" tab.
tikiwiki: Other cosmetic changes...

[18:00]

chealer

[marclaporte?] looks like somebody damaged the report of preferences changing for some preferences. I'm getting for example "changed preference %s set
(preference name: rememberme)" when activating remember me

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tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20892 10/trunk/templates/tiki-change_password.tpl: [FIX] enforced password change prompted for the user name

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20893 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Deploying lesser magic for global features

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marclaporte

chealer: must be related to dynamic preferences that were just merged into trunk

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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20894 10/trunk/tiki-admin.php: [FIX] Removing %s

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chealer

thanks, it's fixed now

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Tikiwiki|bot

New Forum Posts: Issue modifying pagetitle - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=14&comments_parentId=34320

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tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20895 10/trunk/ (lib/profilelib/installlib.php tiki-approve_staging_page.php):
tikiwiki: [FIX] 2 more cases where DB operating in strict SQL mode would fail to update a page due to version_minor.
tikiwiki: sorry and thanks again pkdille.

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Kissaki

if { or if n { ?

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chealer

Kissaki: if ($codingStandards) n $goodPlaces[]="world";

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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r20896 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Moving __Additional Features__ to dynamic preferences.
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20897 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_backlinks.php: [FIX] BACKLINKS: thinko for pages sort

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Kissaki

"$install_step = ($_REQUEST['install_step']);" there's no reason to parenthize that, right?

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chealer

right

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tim_blechmann

hi ... when using the tikinewt theme, my tiki page looks fine. when i copy the tikinewt.css file to my_custom_theme.css and change the theme of my tikiwiki instance to the new css file, the site header is not displayed any more ... any idea, why this is the case?

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marclaporte

marclaporte is ready for kissaki's fix to make pg-tiki fly!!!

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Kissaki

yeha... :(
tiki has too much code, too many folders... :P
anyway, started to read through installer code

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marclaporte

hehe

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Kissaki

but it includes adodb file..
there still was discussion about if switching to pdo would be a good thing. What now? Is switch to pdo definit? will adodb stay as an alternative or be removed?

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marclaporte

both will stay
until we decide otherwise

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Tikiwiki|bot

New Forum Posts: Editable homepage - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34321

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marclaporte

PDO is now default, and unless someone screams more, I think it'll stay
ADOdb is thorougly tested. So perhaps you want to use for PG?
PDO is progressively becoming better, since we put as default
we did some tests today: 4.0 (PDO) [ Execution time: 0.33 secs ] [ Memory usage: 4.84MB ] [ 30 database queries used in 0.0 secs ]
3.x -> [ [ Execution time: 0.43 secs ] [ Memory usage: 6.86MB ] [ 30 database queries used in 0.0 secs ]
this was with one of the featured profiles
community I think

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Kissaki

and 3.x was ado? or pdo as well?

marclaporte

but with calendar turned off because there are performance problems with time & date
3.x was ADOdb

Kissaki

ah, ok
nice

marclaporte

BUT