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[04:52] <tiki-newb> is doc.tikiwiki.org down and, if so, is it planned?  And is it known how long?
[05:22] <luciash> tiki-newb: it's up
[05:22] <luciash> http://downforyoutoo.com
[05:25] <tiki-newb> I can resolve doc.tikiwiki.org, ping it, even telnet to port 80 but any requests time out.
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[05:41] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21417 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic: some features in feature.php
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[05:57] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21418 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic: some features in feature.php
[06:25] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21419 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic: some features in feature.php
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[06:31] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Disabling search highlighting - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34617
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[08:01] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21420 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic: some features in feature.php (change the name of two features to be "lesser magic" compliant
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[10:14] <philback> which tikiwiki variable does contain the full path of the current script ?
[10:14] <philback> is there something like $self ?
[10:28] <luciash> philback: see smarty doc, there definitely is something
[10:28] <luciash> http://smarty.net
[10:32] <philback> got my issue (somewhat) fixed:   $_SESSION["loginfrom"]=$base_url. "tiki-download_file.php?".$_SERVER["QUERY_STRING"]."&"$random;
[10:33] <philback> wanted to let a user download a file right away from a given URL in the file galleries.
[10:35] <philback> any idea of an already existing function/method for generating a random string of n chars in Tiki?
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[10:37] <magowiz> I have to upgrade a tw 1.8.5 to 3.1 , should I try with one step upgrade using 3.1 installer ?
[10:38] <philback> 1.8.5 to 3.1 is a huge jump...
[10:38] <philback> I would backup my tiki install and db
[10:39] <magowiz> yes... I'm going to backup the whole thing
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[10:40] <magowiz> but I would like to know if in the 3.1 installer there there is a procedure to upgrade from 1.8.x
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[10:41] <magowiz> I googled and I found a doc in doc.tikiwiki.org , the problem is that doc.tikiwiki.org is down
[10:43] <melaia> ..
[10:44] <philback> dtwo slow indeed
[10:45] <magowiz> yes it is slow ... but my firefox goes on connection timeout before I can see a page
[10:45] <philback> same here
[10:45] <philback> damn
[10:45] <magowiz> it is not the first time it happens to me
[10:46] <magowiz> dtwo goes from being slow to being so slow to timeout and sometimes it works with an acceptable latency
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[11:12] <philback> yes, I agree. I do not have an idea on the figures for the load.
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[11:12] <philback> But I do run a tiki or two for customers and these are not the fastest things in town. But they are the most flexible and feature packed.
[11:13] <philback> I do have a Tiki codebase here, I'll have a look for this 1.8 support. Wait a sec.
[11:13] <sylvieg> ping amette doc.tw is down
[11:17] <philback> @magowiz I see 1.9 and 2.0 stuff in the install code but nothing for 1.8
[11:18] <sylvieg> you have to do step by step
[11:18] <sylvieg> for the database
[11:19] <magowiz> philback, ok thanks.... perhaps I should upgrade to 1.9 and then to 3.1 
[11:19] <philback> in the db/ folder you have 1.8to1.9 sql
[11:19] <sylvieg> run the script d'upgrade tiki_1.8to1.9.sql then tiki_1.9to2.0.sql then tiki_2.0to3.0.sql
[11:20] <philback> before all of that, backup the damn thing :-)
[11:21] <magowiz> philback, sure, I always backup before any update ;)
[11:21] <magowiz> sylvieg, the tiki_1.8to1.9.sql script is also in the tikiwiki 3.1 package ?
[11:21] <philback> sylvieg, what are these // {{{ 's in the codebase ? For some phpdoc ?
[11:22] <magowiz> also in 3.1 , I saw
[11:22] <philback> BTW, is trunk/ 4.0? 
[11:22] <sylvieg> magowiz: yes I think so
[11:23] <sylvieg> philback: for the edior vim
[11:23] <magowiz> sylvieg, I found it on my local tikiwiki tar.gz
[11:23] <magowiz> 3.1
[11:23] <philback> ah, ok. I am using PhpEd, there is a codenavigator for the whole codebase. Quite useful for navigating the beast.
[11:25] <magowiz> Do I have to upgrade manually using the sql scripts in db/ or those script are ran by the tw installer on upgrade procedure?
[11:25] <philback> I did added some functions for the random string generation in my local install for a given project. Any use for that in the main codebase ?
[11:26] <sylvieg> magowiz: both are ok
[11:26] <magowiz> sylvieg, ok then I'll do the simpler one : installer :)
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[12:59] <magowiz> I'm trying to import  old database on a local mysql server but creating table tiki_newsreader_marks I get #1071 - Specified key was too long; max key length is 1000 bytes 
[13:00] <magowiz> should I skip this table ?
[13:04] <philback|busy> is your mysql 5x
[13:04] <philback|busy> ?
[13:04] <magowiz> yes
[13:05] <magowiz> 5.0 to be precise
[13:06] <magowiz> I'm trying to import the database locally because on my server I have "forbidden error" while I'm trying to run the installer
[13:07] <magowiz> if I run the sql scripts remotely using phpmyadmin provided by my hoster should it work?
[13:13] <philback|busy> well, don't know as I do usually have a ssh shell for doing these using mysql CLI
[13:14] <magowiz> anyway I noticed that that table is empty on my installation
[13:15] <magowiz> and I really don't use a newsreader
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[13:21] <chibaguy> magowiz, I think the newsreader feature is dropped from Tiki 3 anyway.
[13:21] <chibaguy> or marked as no longer developed, or something like that.
[13:22] <magowiz> I had to remove also tikipages_foonotes
[13:24] <magowiz> and also tiki_searchindex
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[13:39] <magowiz> a lot of tables has this issue.... what can I do???
[13:45] <sylvieg> key too long?
[13:46] <sylvieg> (i think not sure that new mysql version limit the key size
[13:46] <sylvieg> you can patch the dump of your old database byt limitting the key
[13:48] <magowiz> how can I limit the key ? reducing some key size ?
[13:48] <magowiz> I'm looking at one problematic table structure
[13:49] <magowiz> it has infact 1024 as key size
[13:50] <magowiz> is there a way I should force my local mysql to accept larger key limit ?
[13:56] <magowiz> it was an utf8 issue
[13:56] <magowiz> infact if I change the db collation to latin1-bin I get no errors
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[14:02] <magowiz> I get forbidden error with the installer  also on my local machine also if I changed the permissions to 777
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[14:20] <luciash> polom
[14:21] <luciash> hi chibaguy
[14:21] <luciash> any update on sumo css ?
[14:26] <magowiz> I got a blank page while trying to update the db 
[14:26] <magowiz> with the tiki-installer
[14:26] <luciash> magowiz: hi
[14:27] <magowiz> I'm upgrading from 1.8.x to 3.1
[14:27] <magowiz> hi luciash 
[14:27] <luciash> magowiz: i am unsure if you answered that already but do you have php5 and memory_limit at least 32M ?
[14:28] <magowiz> sure
[14:28] <luciash> i think you have to go 1.8 to 1.9 to 2.4 to 3.1
[14:28] <magowiz> Tiki has detected your PHP memory_limit at: 128 MB.
[14:28] <luciash> see your logs then for the error
[14:28] <magowiz> apache log ?
[14:29] <luciash> rather both, apache and php
[14:29] <luciash> if you don't store php errors in a log you have to set it in php.ini too
[14:30] <luciash> or somehow force php to display errors in bowser windows
[14:31] <magowiz> apache no error : I get some No such file or dir but last error happened 10 minutes before I launched tiki-installer.php
[14:35] <magowiz> should I restart apache after modifying php.ini ?
[14:41] <magowiz> I restarted apache2 with the new php.ini for php5 , the error log file is empty 
[14:42] <magowiz> error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE
[14:42] <magowiz> log_errors = On
[14:42] <luciash> can you put phpinfo.php file in your web root and review if it's set correctly and not overriden by tiki ?
[14:42] <magowiz> error_log = /var/log/php.log
[14:43] <luciash> i am not sure but the php.log file must be writable by webserver ? (iirc)
[14:44] <luciash> at least i remember something like that
[14:45] <magowiz> Loaded Configuration File 	/etc/php/apache2-php5/php.ini 
[14:46] <magowiz> error_log	/var/log/php.log	/var/log/php.log
[14:48] <luciash> log_errors  = On ?
[14:48] <magowiz> sure
[14:49] <magowiz> empty log
[14:49] <magowiz> also if /var/log/php.log is owned by apache
[14:49] <magowiz> group and user
[14:49] <magowiz> and permissions are set to 777
[14:54] <luciash> try to use apache error log for php
[14:54] <luciash> /var/log/apache2/error.log
[14:54] <luciash> or simmilar
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[14:59] <magowiz> I successfully upgraded to 1.9.11
[14:59] <magowiz> with the installer
[14:59] <magowiz> now I'm tring to upgrade to 3.1
[15:01] <magowiz> success ! :)
[15:01] <luciash> great ! :)
[15:01] <magowiz> so the path is 1.8 -> 1.9 -> 3.1
[15:02] <luciash> nice that you can ommit 2.x
[15:02] <magowiz> I think you should write on docs that you need at least 1.9 to upgrade to 3.1
[15:02] <luciash> now beware of theme changes, table-based are no more supported by default in Tiki
[15:03] <luciash> magowiz: what place you mean ?
[15:03] <magowiz> Upgrade -> others 
[15:03] <magowiz> I don't know if it is already written
[15:03] <magowiz> since today I cannot connect to d.tw.o
[15:04] <luciash> i am browsing it with no problem currently
[15:04] <luciash> searching even
[15:04] <luciash> (in Opera)
[15:04] <magowiz> today morning I mean I couldn't browse it
[15:04] <luciash> it is much faster in Opera for some reason (maybe for the reason it is the fastest browser ? :-p)
[15:05] <magowiz> I didn't checked recently
[15:09] <luciash> docs updated
[15:12] <chibaguy> hi luciash, sorry, was away.
[15:13] <luciash> hi gary, np
[15:13] <chibaguy> I did some work on forums.
[15:13] <chibaguy> But I don't know what's the status of experimental branch sumo.
[15:13] <chibaguy> Not made yet.
[15:14] <luciash> not made yet
[15:14] <luciash> i was just looking at svnadmin --help
[15:14] <luciash> but i guess it requires ssh logging to sf.net first
[15:14] <chibaguy> btw, I've upgraded sites from 1.9 to 3, so apparently it's not necessary to upgrade to 2.* in between.
[15:14] <luciash> chibaguy: yes, i have just put a note on Upgrade page
[15:15] <chibaguy> ah, ok.
[15:20] <magowiz> I'm glad to help you find a shortcut : 1.9->3.1 ;)
[15:23] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03kerrnel22 * r21421 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl: [MOD] Template now uses smarty function to display user's real name instead of getting it fed from calling script...more efficient.
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[15:44] <Poison[BLX]> 'lo everyone. I can't seem to find anything on sub pages in the wiki portion of TW... i.e.  UserPageSomeone/Notes and the like... any tips?
[15:45] <luciash> hi, sorry, i did't know it is possible to use "sub pages"
[15:46] <Poison[BLX]> no idea if it is, really what I'm trying to figure out :D
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[15:49] <chibaguy> Poisen[BLX], wiki pages have a flat hierarchy, so I'm not sure what your "UserPageSomeone/Notes" means in that context.
[15:50] <luciash> Poison[BLX]: you have to put the pages in Structures feature
[15:51] <luciash> but to achieve URLs like this you'd need to tweak your .htaccess rewrite rules or even Tiki code
[15:52] <Poison[BLX]> aha, I'll poke at the structures thing then, sounds like it might be what I'm looking for... the rewrite rules side of it's none to hard to beat into shape... I already went through and adjusted the bulk of them for lighttpd as is ;)
[15:52] <Poison[BLX]> thanky thanky.
[15:53] <luciash> welcome
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[16:06] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21422 10/branches/experimental/edit_fixup/ (77 files in 27 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 21290 to 21319
[16:07] <luciash> pretty cool, TikiWiki project is listed as 4th in CMS Systems and 2nd in Wiki category on sf.net
[16:09] <luciash> sorted by Rank (default) http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=644
[16:15] <cheal> Rank is declining quickly though
[16:15] <cheal> though the statistics have a too short timeframe
[16:15] <luciash> declining ?
[16:16] <cheal> luciash: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/rank_history.php?group_id=64258&ugn=tikiwiki
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[16:16] <luciash> ah
[16:29] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21423 10/branches/experimental/edit_fixup/ (108 files in 32 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 21319 to 21421
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[16:55] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21424 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] typos and adjustements for dynamic preferences
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[17:03] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21425 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Adjustements for dynamic preferences
[17:03] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21426 10/trunk/styles/ (11 files in 5 dirs): [ENH] Improve CSS menus with better Superfish CSS consistency.
[17:05] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21427 10/users/chibaguy/trunk_themes/themes/ (27 files in 24 dirs): [ENH] Improve CSS menus with better Superfish CSS consistency.
[17:07] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21428 10/trunk/templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl: [MOD] Better text on group selector label
[17:11] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21429 10/trunk/css/cssmenus.css: [ENH] Improve CSS menus with better Superfish CSS consistency.
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[17:30] <luciash> hi marclaporte 
[17:31] <luciash> i have added the keywords from description of tw project to tags on sf.net and made the description more descriptive
[17:32] <luciash> marclaporte: couldn't find how to add screenshot in the new sf.net UI
[17:34] <marclaporte> hehe
[17:36] <marclaporte> Are you in the mood to upgrade info.tw.o to Tiki3?
[17:36] <marclaporte> I can do the upgrade, but I could use some help with template tweaking
[17:36] <luciash> ok, that sounds better for me :)
[17:36] <luciash> please do the upgrade and i will help to fix it
[17:36] <marclaporte> super!
[17:37] <marclaporte> you have the SSH?
[17:38] <luciash> yes
[17:41] * marclaporte makes a backup
[17:43] <luciash> are you going to put proposed branch there ?
[17:47] <marclaporte> sure
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[17:58] <marclaporte> install is very clean
[17:58] <luciash> cool
[17:59] * marclaporte will attempt to upgrade via TRIM
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[18:07] <luciash> marclaporte: do you know how to create new branch in SVN ?
[18:08] <luciash> marclaporte: for gary
[18:10] <marclaporte> I dunno, but I think it's documented on dev.tw.o
[18:10] <luciash> ok
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[18:24] <marclaporte> TRIM doesn't let me used proposed, so I'll use branches/3.0
[18:27] * chibaguy realizes 3:30 a.m. is a good time to go to bed and says good night. :-)
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[18:28] <luciash> marclaporte: do you need to use TRIM for it ?\
[18:35] <marclaporte> no, I don't
[18:35] <marclaporte> just trying to dogfood
[18:36] <luciash> ok :)
[18:39] <luciash> do we have time tracking via trackers ?
[18:40] * luciash just trying www.toggl.com
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[18:49] <marclaporte> luciash: : yes
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[18:49] <marclaporte> search for timesheet on profiles site
[18:49] <luciash> marclaporte: any demo/doc on this ?
[18:49] <luciash> marclaporte: ok, tnx
[19:16] <marclaporte> luciash: your turn!  http://info.tikiwiki.org/
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[19:25] <luciash> marclaporte: ok :)
[19:29] * marclaporte is fixing menu
[19:32] * luciash fixing the "family links"
[19:38] * luciash ges to enable CSS menus
[19:39] <luciash> marclaporte: do we need mootools enabled there ?
[19:39] <marclaporte> dunno
[19:40] <luciash> i don't think so
[19:40] * luciash changing to cold theme option for strasa
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[19:48] <luciash> marclaporte: can you remove at least 3 sections from the menu 43 to have it fit on one line in 1024 wide screens ?
[19:49] <luciash> there are too many items in the menu imho to make it easy for starters
[19:51] <marclaporte> ok
[19:51] <luciash> e.g. the Home link can go away
[19:52] <luciash> and maybe the community and logout
[19:52] <luciash> or edit instead of community
[19:53] <luciash> also the items which are now sections with no suboptions must be changed to options otherwise they render empty submenus in CSS menu
[19:53] <luciash> consultants, contact us and factsheet
[19:55] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21430 10/trunk/ (9 files in 5 dirs): 
[19:55] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [MOD] Rewrite of {popup} Smarty function to use jQuery ClueTips properly.
[19:55] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: Now initialises on first mouseover (or onclick) which should make page rendering lighter.
[19:55] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: Most other references to overlib replaced in tpls.
[19:55] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: Tested in filegals, calendars
[19:56] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21431 10/third_party/jquery/jquery-tiki-readme.txt: [MOD] Doc update
[20:04] * luciash launches Inkscape
[20:06] <marclaporte> ok
[20:10] <marclaporte> luciash: can the top menu be identical on all sites?
[20:11] <luciash> yes
[20:11] <luciash> now it is on tw.o and info.tw.o, i will adjust on the others
[20:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Strasa theme and IE7 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34619
[20:14] <luciash> marclaporte: we're workin on it hard already 45 mins ;)
[20:23] <luciash> marclaporte: can we re-use the !download" and "the product box" images from the design patrick made ?
[20:23] <marclaporte> yes!
[20:28] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21432 10/branches/proposed/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]perms: was not possible to include a page your were creator
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[20:44] * marclaporte changed profiles.tw.o top menu
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[20:47] <marclaporte> luciash: : do you have the produc box?
[20:48] <luciash> yes, currently modified the Downlaod box
[20:50] * marclaporte working on top menu :-)
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[21:17] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21433 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]register: if a user did not validate his email and try to log-in - give him the possibility to resend the valiadtion email
[21:23] <marclaporte> sylvieg: : tks for this!
[21:26] <luciash> marclaporte: ^
[21:28] <marclaporte> beautiful!
[21:28] <marclaporte> can you put capital F?
[21:28] <marclaporte> SourceForge.net
[21:29] <luciash> ah, that was left by Patrick there
[21:29] <luciash> i can try or remove it and put plain text over it then ?
[21:31] <luciash> marclaporte: ^
[21:32] <luciash> marclaporte: :) i have to do something else now... will play with the site(s) later again
[21:32] <marclaporte> thanks!
[21:36] <luciash> marclaporte: oh, you removed the "Other tw.o websites"
[21:36] <luciash> marclaporte: now the all links are not vertically aligned anymore in the bar, what else you removed ?
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[21:37] <luciash> i thought it looked better, what was the reason for you to remove the Home link and this text ?
[21:38] <marclaporte> yes, it did look better
[21:38] <marclaporte> I kept code
[21:38] <marclaporte> I am trying to make 6 sites looks like one
[21:38] <marclaporte> as if it's 1 tree
[21:39] <marclaporte> and each of the sites would have distinct sub-menu
[21:39] <marclaporte> and get rid of duplication
[21:39] <luciash> ok, i will let you finish it and see then :)
[21:42] <marclaporte> and, then, let's make it look good again :-)
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