#tikiwiki 2009-09-22,Tue

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chibaguy	polom I don't see the big blue help button in trunk now, and don't see where to activate it.	[05:38]
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chibaguy	It's ok for advanced search, but no sign of it for editing. Shouldn't the option be on admin-textarea?	[05:42]
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diogogcunha	hey! can anyone tell me if the Tiki4 is going to have a decent WYSIWYG editor?	[08:51]
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marclaporte	diogogcunha: hmmmm	[09:15]
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diogogcunha	is that a "not at all" or a "I don't know but I think not"	[09:22]
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marclaporte	: hehe http://dev.tikiwiki.org/WYSIWYG+observations	[09:25]
diogogcunha	I've read it .. it doesn't say nothing specific! I want to use it in my organization but WYSIWYG editor is a must have	[09:26]
marclaporte	My priority is to improve standard editing Here is what is being done for Tiki4: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/AvanTech_net#Text_area_editing_helper	[09:28]
diogogcunha	tks!	[09:31]
marclaporte	did you use Tiki3 WYSIWG?	[09:31]
diogogcunha	yes but it just does some weird formatting	[09:35]
marclaporte	what were problems?	[09:35]
diogogcunha	and the linking isn't allways correct most of all it was the formating that made me a little frustrated	[09:36]
marclaporte	Could you test http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/WYSIWYG_Wiki ? take a test 3.x version, apply this profile and tell me if better	[09:38]
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luciash	polom	[12:27]
jonnyb	hi luciash	[12:27]
luciash	howdy jonny were you cycling london with your major too ? :)	[12:28]
jonnyb	not with Boris, but was cycling generally	[12:30]
luciash	on sunday :) hehe cool	[12:30]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21648 10/trunk/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] Removing redundant CSS definitions (thanks Gary & Marc)	[12:31]
jonnyb	um... Sunday - no i was on my sofa in front of the telly most of the day (late night Saturday)	[12:33]
luciash	:) luciash is just asking cause was webposting some news about the sunday event today on NTD ;) chibaguy: no idea, maybe someone killed it ? ;)	[12:34]
chibaguy	:-)	[12:41]
luciash	or transformed into LBHI	[12:41]
chibaguy	I can't find where it's turned on or off either, which is kind of frustrating.	[12:45]
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luciash	last time it was in Admin → General → Global settings iirc	[12:46]
jonnyb	hi chibaguy - what you looking for?	[12:46]
chibaguy	hi jonnyb. ah, the on\|off switch for the big blue help button. Also, I don't see any edit help now in trunk.	[12:47]
jonnyb	it's on the toolbar now no more BBHB (it is LBHB)	[12:48]
chibaguy	oh, ok. nice.	[12:48]
luciash	nice ?	[12:48]
jonnyb	if you don't want it (or it's not there) add or remove it in toolbars admin - no more prefs needed nice?	[12:48]
chibaguy	Well, I didn't look yet, but I think having the help icon smaller and closer to the edit controls is better.	[12:50]
jonnyb	by default it's on the right of the 1st row	[12:50]
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jonnyb	hi chealer_	[12:51]
chibaguy	If I don't see the icon, how do you add it to the toolbar?	[12:52]
jonnyb	in toolbars admin? not there? (left hand box)	[12:52]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r21649 10/branches/proposed/templates/styles/coelesce/tiki-site_header.tpl: [FIX] Let header strings be translated in coelesce, too (was done in other styles in #20119) (issue does not exist in trunk)	[12:54]
luciash	nicely wasted time we had working on it ;)	[12:54]
chibaguy	oh yeah, it's there. Sorry, this my first look at admin toobar. :-)	[12:55]
jonnyb	i think those lists of tools need alpha sorting as i recall... please send feedback on the devels list - others will probably have similar issues finding stuff	[12:55]
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chibaguy	Is there a default set of tools? The rows were empty when admin-toolbars loaded. I dragged up the help icon, and now my wiki toolbar is only a help icon. So it'd be good to be able to load a set of "typical" or default icons, then add to it.	[12:58]
jonnyb	isn't there a 'reset to global" button? (you on trunk, yes?)	[12:58]
chibaguy	Yes. I clicked it once and nothing happened. Guess I didn't click hard enough. ;-) Second time loaded the icons.	[12:59]
jonnyb	think there's a little bug or cache issue in there (thought i'd fixed it, obviously not :() "we" need to decide on the default set - they live in prefs (toolbar_global and toolbar_global_comments i think)	[13:00]
luciash	"Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?	[13:01]
chibaguy	Well, also I'm using Opera right now, which sometimes is a little quirky with javascript.	[13:01]
luciash	when switching to No Tabs btw, talking about Opera, any idea why the session timer is not displayed in Firefox's status bar ?	[13:01]
chibaguy	very cool, guys. nice job. :-)	[13:02]
jonnyb	luciash: that does a page reload, so you would loose any changes that alert doesn't know if you're reloading or going somewhere else - maybe the wording can be improved? thanks chibaguy :)	[13:02]
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luciash	jonnyb: yes, i mean it shouldn't reload the page maybe (?) luciash likes the tabbed editing though :)	[13:04]
chibaguy	luciash, does ff usually show the session timer?	[13:05]
jonnyb	it writes different html out (a Smarty thing)	[13:05]
luciash	chibaguy: never did afaicr	[13:05]
jonnyb	i got no timer on status bar on ff - but do get it on safari	[13:05]
luciash	chibaguy: i spotted in Opera first	[13:05]
chibaguy	ah, "your edit session will expire in...."	[13:05]
luciash	yes	[13:05]
chibaguy	right, opera shows it.	[13:05]
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jonnyb	it also now says it in the remarks box at the top	[13:07]
MacLeod	Is it safe to search bug reports on dev yet?	[13:07]
jonnyb	(in minutes)	[13:07]
luciash	jonnyb: why some plugins show as an icon and some as plugin icon + text on right ?	[13:08]
jonnyb	cos not all plugins have been assigned icons yet	[13:08]
luciash	in the toolbar aha ok	[13:08]
jonnyb	i reckoned you need the labels otherwise you'd have a row of identical green jigsaw pieces	[13:09]
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luciash	jonnyb: when the BBHI was off and help system was on in preferences, the wiki help showed under the editing fields... is there still this behavior somehow ? jonnyb: ah, clever workaround :)	[13:11]
MacLeod	Looks like dev bug search still isn't working. Hanging @ ~33%.	[13:11]
jonnyb	luciash: er... not sure - i certainly didn't delete it (don't think)	[13:12]
luciash	jonnyb: i mean some ppl can prefer to have it plain down there than overflowing their viewport (like eronmeg likes no tabs for example ;)	[13:13]
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jonnyb	fine by me luciash ;)	[13:14]
luciash	btw, who decided default installer theme for Tiki 4 should be Strasa ? (doesn't remember any talk about it)	[13:18]
sylvieg	jonnyb: is tiki-objectpermissions working for you	[13:18]
luciash	sylvieg: it seems to be working for me but i haven't upgraded db on my trunk copy yet	[13:20]
jonnyb	hi sylvieg - mostly	[13:20]
sylvieg	I never succeed to assign a perm ... if I check tiki_p_view, it gives me back tiki_p_view_source - if I check tiki_p_create_tracker_items, it set tiki_p-watch_trackers	[13:20]
jonnyb	wow - not seen that, most odd so it sets the next one on?	[13:20]
sylvieg	I am lucky to have the 'quick perm'...	[13:21]
jonnyb	is that on global, or some specific object?	[13:21]
sylvieg	it is not the next one .... i think it is only one... specific object	[13:21]
chibaguy	luciash, I don't know who decided about the installer theme.	[13:22]
luciash	damn, shiretoko frozen again on the objectperms page :-p luciash goes to launch opera ;)	[13:23]
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MacLeod	hi, chibaguy. just entered a bug report on th.tw.o for tikinewt's problem with the advanced help button in search_box.	[13:24]
chibaguy	ok. Did you check in themes other than strasa and tikinewt? (just to eliminate possibilities)	[13:26]
MacLeod	i tried coelesce, too, and it works there. also, the behavior is consistent whether a theme option is enabled or not. i've been trying to find differences btw strasa and tikinewt is there a page on th.tw.o that talks about the basic components of a theme? i've been looking at css and templates, and haven't seen any PHP code	[13:27]
luciash	damn, updated db and still get the "Unknown column 'rootCategId' in 'where clause'" on tiki-admin_categories.php?parentId=0	[13:30]
MacLeod	Hm, just noticed that the search_box button works fine in th.tw.o in tikinewt! What version are you running?	[13:31]
chibaguy	Theme differences should only be CSS. The theme-specific template files (in the bundled themes) are only to put things in different places. Functionality should be the same in all. tw.o is proposed branch, I think.	[13:31]
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luciash	>devtwo Templates+Best+Practices	[13:32]
Sug4r	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Templates+Best+Practices	[13:32]
luciash	MacLeod: ^ MacLeod: i think there was layout scheme	[13:32]
chibaguy	The layout scheme might be out of date.	[13:33]
luciash	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Templates+Best+Practices#Tiki_3.0_template_layout_schema	[13:34]
MacLeod	luciash: thx	[13:34]
chibaguy	ah, a new one.	[13:35]
luciash	hth	[13:35]
MacLeod	chibaguy: I wonder if the search_box button will work if the BBHB is disabled on th.tw.o?	[13:36]
luciash	chibaguy: well, from april ;)	[13:36]
chibaguy	MacLeod, I just turned off the BBHB, and now the help opens in a shadowbox popup. (at themes.tw.o)	[13:38]
MacLeod	Yep, see that.	[13:39]
luciash	chibaguy: it is correct behaviour as we made it with sylvie... is it wrong ?	[13:39]
chibaguy	No, luciash, seems fine to me. I mean, yes, it is correct behavior.	[13:40]
luciash	reminds me... luciash has to fix colorbox still in trunk to support all shadowbox stuff	[13:40]
chibaguy	Hmm, the advanced search help _also_ loads at the bottom of the center column, when the page loads. (anyway, in opera9	[13:42]
MacLeod	not on my installation	[13:42]
chibaguy	er, opera 10	[13:42]
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chibaguy	could be an opera js problem	[13:43]
MacLeod	i see the help at the bottom of th.tw.o in Tikinewt theme using XP/IEv6 So any ideas where in the files I should be looking for the cause of this anomalous behavior?	[13:43]
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luciash	chibaguy: you mean you have it twice or it loads there and then gets hidden after page load ?	[13:47]
chibaguy	it stays in view, like part of the page.	[13:47]
luciash	hmm, then it's not intended i think	[13:48]
chibaguy	MacLeod, the design is to use layout.css for global behaviors like visibility, etc. If that breaks in a theme, then apparently the theme css overrides layout.css in a bad way. But this is for standards-conforming browsers. Does IE6 work ok for other themes, regarding the advanced search help?	[13:49]
MacLeod	chibaguy: Yes, strasa and coelesce perform as expected.	[13:50]
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MacLeod	chibaguy: tikinewt, oddly enough, doesn't override layout.css at all for shadowbox styling.	[13:52]
chibaguy	No, it shouldn't need to. Actually neither should the other themes.	[13:52]
MacLeod	chibaguy: And strasa doesn't even include layout.css. chibaguy: Neither does coelesce! Perhaps the problem is in layout.css.	[13:52]
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chibaguy	Hmm, guess I've been working with trunk so long I forgot the situation in tiki 3. chibaguy has a hard time imaging themes not importing layout.css... ;-) MacLeod, could you take a look here with IE6: http://zukakakina.com/tw4/tiki-index.php It's a pretty up to date trunk install.	[13:55]
MacLeod	chibaguy: seems to work fine in tikinewt, although the presentation has changed quite a bit. chibaguy: although in the initial theme (thenews), when I tried to expand the help window full screen, it gave me a shadowbox that sez, "request unsuccessful".	[14:06]
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chibaguy	well, maybe that's a minor problem. Some of the presentation change at that site is probably configuration differences. although the cssmenus are a lot nicer in tw4. A problem at themes.tw.o. is that the default style is intruding into page-specific styles in a nasty way. (just noticed)	[14:12]
stripmind	Hi all. I've got a problem with my update to 3.1 from 3.0, After the update, I just get blank screens. going to the folder with the tikiwiki in it, I see the web address automatically points to tiki-index.php, but the screen is blank. I tried reverting to my backup (an ftp of the whole tikiwiki folder to my desktop) and I can see some of my formatting, and forums, but not the wiki content.... ...Any thoughts? Is it relevant that I've changed the location of the tikiwiki in my directory structure - would that influence how it interacts with the database?	[14:15]
MacLeod	chibaguy: So other than upgrading to a dev version at this point, where should I probe tikinewt and layout for causes?	[14:16]
stripmind	Or that as I'm looking at it currently, I've got the old tikiwiki in a new folder and the failed upgrade in another?	[14:17]
chibaguy	Use Firefox and firebug add on to identify what CSS selectors are involved with the help popup, and then how they differ between the themes were things work and those where they don't.	[14:18]
stripmind	At my old pages I get 404 and "Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."	[14:19]
chibaguy	stripmind, the location of your tiki shouldn't matter, as far as the database is concerned.	[14:20]
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stripmind	yah, i didn't think so.	[14:21]
chibaguy	I wonder why the upgrade failed. That doesn't usually happen. The process went smoothly, on the install/upgrade screens?	[14:23]
stripmind	I never got to the upgrade/install screens. I got a blank screen at step 4 of: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Upgrade+3.x+to+3.latest&structure=Documentation	[14:24]
chibaguy	Well, you said 'after the update'. That means just the file uploads? oh, I see.	[14:25]
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stripmind	Yeah. After overwriting 3.0 with 3.1	[14:25]
MacLeod	chibaguy: I use the IE Developer Toolbar to identify CSS controls on a page.	[14:25]
chibaguy	(for the record, the problem at themes.tw.o with theme intrusion is due to the custom site header code, which currently puts strasa stuff on every page, even if another theme is active for a specific page.) Ok, MacLeod, that should do it.	[14:27]
MacLeod	chibaguy: but so far, everything seems to be just shadowbox controls, which don't differ that much.	[14:28]
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stripmind	perhaps i'm seeing a "white screen of death'? http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Theme+Problems&bl=y So far, the FTP method of correcting this did not work, I'll try the DB method.	[14:36]
chibaguy	stripmind, be sure to clear your templates_c directory. ...and check if the problem is still there. MacLeod-AFK, I see div id="tikihelp" containing the advanced search help popup window (in FF/Firebug). (This is looking at trunk)	[14:37]
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stripmind	sadly, the problem is still there.	[14:40]
chibaguy	MacLeod-AFK, so shadowbox is used in tiki 3, I see (anyway, in tikinewt...) also strasa and coelesce... ...anyway, I've got to go now. Will try to check more on this later.	[14:41]
stripmind	thanks for your time, chibaguy	[14:44]
chibaguy	sure, maybe somebody else has some ideas.	[14:46]
ricks99	need php help.. recently upgraded site to php5. now, i get logged off lots of time when linking from page to page (e.g., linking to a categorized page the i DO haver permission to view). i get logged off and have to re login. anyone have ideas/suggestonions? only t hing i've recetnly changed was upgrading from php4 to 5	[14:50]
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stripmind	oy. Deleting those .css lines from the db didn't do it either.	[15:12]
luciash	stripmind: can you repeat what is your problem ?	[15:15]
stripmind	I've got a problem with my update to 3.1 from 3.0, After overwriting 3.0 with 3.1 (step 4 of: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Upgrade+3.x+to+3.latest&structure=Documentation, ) I just get blank screens. I never got past deleting the lock file. Going to the folder with the tikiwiki in it, I see the web address automatically points to tiki-index.php, but the screen is blank (white screen of death?). I tried theme-related solutions - renaming the .css for the style i'm using, deleting contents of templates_c, deleting database entries related to my preferences for the .css of my style. I tried reverting to my backup (an ftp of the whole tikiwiki folder to my desktop) and with the 3.0 tikiwiki, I can see my style, and forums, but not the wiki content or some modules and menus. In the new install, I get a 'white screen of death' while in the reverted tikiwiki, I get 404 "Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the... ...request." where I used to have wiki pages. Do I have multiple problems going on at once, now? Should I try to restore my database from backup? Would that be the next advisable step?	[15:25]
Caarrie	php memory limit?	[15:27]
stripmind	I've done tiki version upgrades a few times, but haven't restored databse from backup before. I've been looking through the .sql and can see that the wiki content is in there. So I'm relieved about that. Caarrie, how would I know that, or fix it?	[15:28]
Caarrie	>whatis memory_limit	[15:30]
Sug4r	'memory_limit' could be the most frequently asked question about trouble getting blank pages. The PHP memory_limit should be >= 16M (see your php.ini). You can check it with <?php echo ini_get('memory_limit'); ?> and read more at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Requirements+and+Setup&bl#PHP	[15:30]
stripmind	memory limit listed at tiki-phpinfo.php shows 32M	[15:32]
Caarrie	not sure then wait for someone that knows more to come around	[15:33]
stripmind	seeing it through the reverted tikiwiki, the 3.1 upgraded still shows the white screen of death. Thanks for the thoughts, Caarrie and Sug4r	[15:33]
Caarrie	Sug4r: is a bot ;)	[15:34]
Sug4r	No clue.	[15:34]
stripmind	:) oh Sug4r, you rock!	[15:35]
Sug4r	Pardon?	[15:35]
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stripmind	perhaps it is a max_execution_time related error? I've only got 30sec listed in tiki-phpinfo.php Tho the page seems to stop loading before the 30 secs are up...	[16:19]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21650 10/trunk/installer/schema/20090921_workspaces_tiki.sql: [FIX] Install schema for workspaces tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21651 10/trunk/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] Full height background for FCKEditor in Firefox	[16:45]
	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21652 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] AJAX Auto save fixed (mostly) for WYSIWYG editor. tikiwiki: Needs testing/fixing in IE(s)	[16:55]
stripmind	or perhaps its a faulty module? I haven't made any changes to modules lately, but in the 3.0 install, one of the missing elements (among many) is a user menu module.	[16:56]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21653 10/trunk/setup_fckeditor.php: [FIX] Restore code to apply theme option css to FCK Editor (wiped by me in r20677)	[17:15]
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jonnyb	greeting marclaporte	[17:36]
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paustian	Hi all, I am having trouble with the user importer I want to batch import a bunch of users and I have made the CSV file But it keeps saying "This files does not have the required header..."	[18:04]
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paustian	I dug into the code and something funky is going on with the $fields variable if you do a print_r on it, it looks fine But the comparisons are not working... I am stumped on this one The function I am looking at is in tiki-adminusers.php batchimportUsers	[18:06]
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paustian	btw, I am sure the header is correct	[18:09]
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sylvieg	what is the first line of your csv file?	[18:16]
luciash	re (quick) would anyone benefit from a fixed-width strasa option in trunk ?	[18:19]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r21658 10/third_party/fckeditor/ (99 files in 14 dirs): (log message trimmed) tikiwiki: [UPD] Update FCKEditor to version 2.6.5 tikiwiki: special for jonny : tikiwiki: Fixed problems with the height of the content area in Safari and Chrome. tikiwiki: Yai ! ;p tikiwiki: Changelog : tikiwiki: New Features and Improvements:	[18:26]
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jonnyb	thanks changi - off out shortly, more tomorrow	[18:42]
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MacLeod	Should module search_box work if I don't have "Database Search" enabled??	[19:09]
luciash	i think so, it should use the indexed search instead	[19:10]
MacLeod	hrm	[19:13]
luciash	or does that search_box_new (if any ?)	[19:14]
MacLeod	doc sez that the modules are specific to the method.	[19:16]
luciash	luciash thinks it would be better to combine in one module only	[19:17]
MacLeod	do boolean operators work in both?	[19:17]
luciash	i don't think so	[19:17]
MacLeod	hrm, i tried to enabled database search, but got an error when i tried to refresh the index, and it still shows as disabled.	[19:18]
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luciash	hmm, in trunk i get "tiki-categpermissions.php was not found on this server"	[19:22]
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luciash	weird, with {img src="http://localhost/tikitrunk/img/smiles/icon_smile.gif" height=17 width=17 alt=":-)"} i get "No image specified. Either the fileId, attId, id, or src parameter must be specified." in trunk :(	[19:40]
mlaporte	mlaporte thinks we should use Zend_Lucene	[19:43]
luciash	mlaporte: would it help to display the image ? ;)	[19:49]
SEWilco2	mlaporte: What? There isn't a Zend-Luciash?	[19:51]
mlaporte	:-)	[19:54]
luciash	:)	[19:54]
mlaporte	We could unify search stuff	[19:54]
luciash	ah, it is the search stuff, i was wondering what lucerne is that	[19:55]
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MacLeod	MacLeod never really understood the pro's and con's of database search vs. tiki search, other than the recent addition of boolean operators.	[20:16]
luciash	ah, found the bug... the img plugin cannot contain ")" in the alt param	[20:19]
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luciash	now only if i could fill it devtwo down again	[20:24]
paustian	I had to step out to teach a class, sorry about that. Going through the log... Here is the problem again.... I am having trouble with the user importer I want to batch import a bunch of users and I have made the CSV file But it keeps saying "This files does not have the required header..." I dug into the code and something funky is going on with the $fields variable if you do a print_r on it, it looks fine But the comparisons are not working... The function I am looking at is in tiki-adminusers.php... ...batchimportUsers and then sylvieg asked, what is the first line of your csv file? The first line of the csv is set up like this.... login,email,password,groups	[20:26]
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stripmind	hi all. I'm still having the same problem as before. reposting the problem: encountered a problem updating to 3.1 from 3.0, After overwriting 3.0 with 3.1 (step 4 of: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Upgrade+3.x+to+3.latest&structure=Documentation, I just get blank screens. I never got past deleting the lock file. Going to the folder with the tikiwiki in it, I see the web address automatically points to tiki-index.php, but the screen is blank (white screen of death?). I tried theme-related solutions - renaming the .css for the style i'm using, deleting contents of templates_c, deleting database entries related to my preferences for the .css of my style. I tried reverting to my backup (an ftp of the whole tikiwiki folder to my desktop) and with the 3.0 tikiwiki, I can see my style, and forums, but not the wiki content or some modules and menus. In the new install, I get a 'white screen of death' while in the reverted tikiwiki, I get 404 "Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the... ...request." where I used to have wiki pages. considering that the database might be corrupted in some way, I made a new one, imported my backup .sql, uploaded a fresh 3.1 installation in a new folder, and went through the update installation, directed at the imported backup .sql, only to be back at my same 'white screen of death' after completing the update successfully and entering tiki. Any thoughts on what to try next? Also, i've got 32M memory limit, so that's not it. perhaps the backup sql is also bad? trouble?	[23:29]
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