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egon00001: Anyone know how to create tabs in the content of a wiki page? I have a really long page and would like to break it up a bit
<br> can I do this with tikisyntax? or do I have to edit the template file?
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lindon_: Not sure if it fits the bill, but PluginVersions is similar to tabs
<br> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginVersions
<br> you could also use page breaks
<br> ---page---
egon00001: hmmmm the first idea is closer to what I had in mind, the page break doesnt offer any navigation of what in each tab
<br> many thanks Ill try that!!
lindon_: good luck!
egon00001: one other problem Im having is I cant get a google map to display in the wiki page, I use the syntax {GMAP(type=>page, width=>400, controller=>none, mode=>normal)/} but nothing displays
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lindon_: hmmm...i've never used this one in tikiwiki. I assume you've enoabled the feature and input the key?
egon00001: yes, done all of that, but no dice
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ricks99: @egon00001: r u trying to emed the user map in another tiki page?
CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21775 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-admin-include-general.tpl tiki-admin-include-look.tpl): [MOD] Moving log_tpl to templates admin panel
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21776 10/trunk/ (10 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] New Security and Performance admin panels
egon00001: no Im trying to map a geolocation of a page in my tiki
ricks99: o... i recently embedded the Tiki Google UserMap in a wiki page. thought maybe that's what youwere trying to do
egon00001: how did you do it? maybe I can just tweak the display coordinates
ricks99: i did a writeup in my blog:
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ricks99: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=26&postId=384
egon00001: thanks very much. Ill read through it
ricks99: no problem
egon00001: Hmmmm so if I were interested in creating a geoCMS mapserver is really the way to go rather than google maps it seems
ricks99: think so. ive only ever used the google map for a usermap
egon00001: do you know of anyone who has?
ricks99: not that i know of. try posting to the forums
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egon00001: yep, thats my next move....muchas gracias
ricks99: de nada
CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21778 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
<br> tikiwiki: [ENH] change last_created_quizzes module to new module style (modules-doc).
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding
<br> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21779 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-general.tpl: [MOD] Move all date and time settings to the same section
marclaporte: ricks99 : polom
ricks99: hi marc
marclaporte: how are you?
ricks99: busy busy busy :-) u?
marclaporte: same
<br> any chance I see you at TikiFestOrlando?
ricks99: doubtful :(
<br> id love to, but too much @ home
lindon_: i'm thinking of going
marclaporte: lindon_ : cool!
lindon_: I gues I'll need a car there, no?
<br> and I hope there's room at the house?
marclaporte: <u>lindon_</u>: : yes, plenty of room
<br> for car: it would be good to have one for the group
<br> you are driving down?
lindon_: i'll fly in
<br> from nyc
<br> maybe wed night or thursday morning
<br> happy to rent a car
marclaporte: ok
lindon_: by the way,fixed the image gallery tpl but wasn't able to fix the file gallery one (tiki-upload_file.tpl) to put the new IMG syntax
<br> not sure what I'm doing wrong
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21780 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Multilingual freetags now with lesser magic
marclaporte: ah
<br> while I have you too here (lindon & ricks99)
<br> I want to make sure you are aware of lesser magic
ricks99: only vaguely
lindon_: have no idea
marclaporte: ok
<br> so
<br> we have about 1300+preferences
<br> from feature_wiki: y/n
<br> to site_title: blabla
<br> The way it was done was very simple
<br> but lots of extra work in the admin panel templates
<br> It will take months to migrate all preferences to new system
<br> But it has many benefits
<br> 1- possible to search within the preferences, and be able to use from search result (ex,: activate/deacativate)
<br> 2- admin panel templates are much cleaner
<br> here is an example of how clean the admin panel templates become: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl?r1=21418&r2=21417&pathrev=21418
<br> I know you ( ricks99 ) have spent a lot of time there
ricks99: much cleaner
marclaporte: it will be much easier to check for dependencies
lindon_: looks great
marclaporte: but this needs to be added in code: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php?r1=21418&r2=21417&pathrev=21418
<br> So it will take dozens & dozens of hours of migrating from old system to new
<br> Will also make easier to have a setting in two admin panels (if relevant)
<br> multilingual freetags is now both in freetags and multilingual admin panels.
-: ricks99 still thinks having the exact same option in 2 different locations is wrong
marclaporte: hehe
<br> faceted approach
ricks99: confusing (to me) shouldnt multilingual freetags be dependent on having Multilingual enabled?
<br> i had noticed on some admin panels that use lesser magic, the child options are no longer "hidden" if the parent is disabled
<br> imho, this is moving *backwards* -- making the ui more cluttered by showing end-users things that can't even been changed yet
lindon_: i have some very important questions
CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21781 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_freetags.php: [MOD] Multilingual freetags now with lesser magic
lindon_: why do they call it lesser magic?
<br> do they have good beer in Orlando?
<br> has there ever been a tikifest in nyc?
marclaporte: <u>ricks99</u>: +1 to hiding
ricks99: good beer in orlando, but all the mugs have "mickey ears" :-)
lindon_: might feel "goofy" drinking it :)
ricks99: for example, in trunk, on Admin: General, *all* of the "message to display" fields are shown, even if the "Close site" options are disabled.
<br> this is a regression -- in 3 they were hidden
marclaporte: 1- it's because it's a less ambitious project that was trying to do this. The other project was called Magic http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Magic
<br> <u>2</u>: dunno
<br> 3- no TikiFest yet in NYC: let's plan one!
lindon_: sounds good!
<br> I've got room for some people to stay
ricks99: gotta go. marc, i'll take a look into the lesser magic stuff for more admin ui rework
marclaporte: <u>ricks99</u>: : 2 seconds
<br> if you can
ricks99: tick tick
marclaporte: I am very soory, I know this is not the first time we make back-end changes
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marclaporte: that have big impact on your UI work
<br> plugin security, now this
<br> workspaces is also causing problems (ref: discussion on list)
<br> but I think this better base will make things easier
ricks99: no problem. (i semi-fixed the plugin security -- at least now i can mass-approve them in one shot -- and can finally upgrade from 2.x)
<br> i havent look @ workspaces yet
marclaporte: There is a template : http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/templates/prefs/shared-dependencies.tpl?revision=20877&view=markup
<br> so by twaeking the template, it should be possible to make hiding like before
<br> or even have it optional
<br> but with management in one place
ricks99: +1
<br> will be a definate improvement
marclaporte: sometimes (often), we work a lot on backend and run out of steam for front-end
<br> I know this impacts you directly and I appologize
ricks99: not a problem
marclaporte: :-)
<br> take care my friend!
ricks99: talk with you later
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lindon_: me too
<br> what's the schedule look like for upcoming fests?
marclaporte: tikiwiki.org/tikifest
<br> <u>Lindon</u>: about your recent commits. I am sad you are not as active with docs but very happy we have one more developer :-)
lindon_: I appreciate that :)
<br> working on documentation now to make up for it
<br> cleaning up the image-related pages and documenting the new IMG
marclaporte: :-)
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<br> tikiwiki: [ENH] change last_file_galleries module to new module style (modules-doc).
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21785 10/branches/experimental/sumo/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [NEW][MOD] Minor tpl modifications for wiki page display and related CSS; more CSS styles for general layout, etc.
lindon_: <marlaporte> any luck with plugin alias in dealing with the old image-related plugins?
marclaporte: not yet
<br> not lack of lack but just did other stuff
<br> are you online tomorrow?
<br> if so, ping me and we'll do together
lindon_: sounds good
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chibaguy: polom
marclaporte: hi chibaguy!
chibaguy: hi marclaporte :-)
lindon_: does polom mean hello?
chibaguy: yes, more or less. kinda the 'aloha' of the tiki world. ;-)
marclaporte: http://tikiwiki.org/Glossary
chibaguy: about lesser magic, there is a problem with feature names in trunk. The first tab shows "Wiki, Blog, Image Gallery, File Gallery, Articles, Forums, Trackers, Polls, Calendar, Newletters, Banners" for example.
<br> Seems to me they should all be plural except for wiki, which general only has one implementation at a site (maybe also Calendar, I'm not sure).
lindon_: thanks for explaining - i've always wondered...(talking about polom)
marclaporte: http://tikiwiki.org/Glossary+Ideas
chibaguy: Second tab shows "Category" (singular) but "Freetags" (plural). I think the rule is if the thing generally exists in plural form on the site, the name should be plural too.
marclaporte: Does it look easy to fix?
chibaguy: So to correct this, the editing is no longer in the tpl, but in the libs as marc gave references to a bit earlier, right?
marclaporte: Now that was have clean page aliases, I am not so worried about links to docs
<br> yes, in php file
chibaguy: such as 'name' => tra('Custom Home'), in lib/prefs/feature.php
marclaporte: yes
<br> And there are hundreds to convert :-)
-: marclaporte wonders is we can retire more features
chibaguy: are there docs on how to do the conversions?
<br> I'm wondering is it just lib/prefs/feature.php that these are added to, or do other files get edited too.
<br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/dynamic+preferences looks like the start point
marclaporte: doc is not so good on this
<br> but from example, it should be simple enough
chibaguy: yeah, seems so. maybe a few basics should be documented.
marclaporte: Tiki will turn 7 soon
chibaguy: I see, for example,
<br> 'feature_blogs 'name' => tra('Blog'), 'description' => tra('Online diaries or journals.'), 'type' => 'flag', 'help' => 'Blogs',
marclaporte: y
<br> and some examples have dependencies
chibaguy: does description exist already for most, and if so where, and what does type flag mean - on or off?
<br> also does the help item mean the page at doc.tw.o?
marclaporte: The description must be stolen from somewhere, or invented. It is part of how to find that feature in the search
<br> yes, help is for page at doc.tw.o
<br> <u>flag</u>: on/off yes
chibaguy: Is there a 'master list' of items for conversion and a way to know which are done?
marclaporte: not that I know of
<br> in lib/prefs, there are many files
<br> load_threshold -> goes in load.php
<br> log_mail -> goes in log.php
<br> The underscore is where it cuts
<br> and if there is no _
<br> it goes in lib/prefs/global.php
<br> <u>ex</u>: browsertitle
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chibaguy: there's a wiki.php. will there be other feature-specific .php files?
marclaporte: only if preference starts with feature_
chibaguy: i see
marclaporte: This is when it would be nice to have more consistancy in preference names
chibaguy: so $prefs.feature_wiki in the tpl means the pref info goes in /prefs/wiki.php, and similar for others, like $prefs.feature_babelfish should be in a /prefs/babelfish.php ?
<br> (I'm thinking maybe not)
<br> (I'm looking at the '$prefs.feature' search results for the templates directory.)
<br> feature_wiki has a lot of 'dependent prefs' but a lot of the others don't, like babelfish, so these wouldn't seem to warrant their own file.
<br> otoh there is a show.php that contains only 'show_available_translations', so I guess a babelfish.php isn't out of line.
CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21786 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-admin-include-features.tpl tiki-admin-include-login.tpl): [MOD] Moving banning feature preference to a more logical place.
marclaporte: feature_babelfish goes in feature.php
<br> if the pref name was babelfish_xyz, it would go to babelfish.php
chibaguy: ok, was wonder about babelfish_logo
<br> wondering
marclaporte: there you go
chibaguy: things are just added at the bottom of feature.php, I guess
marclaporte: yes
<br> and when you make babelfish.php, just copy a simple example
<br> you need to change function name
chibaguy: right
marclaporte: function prefs_babelfish_list() {
chibaguy: ok
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21787 10/trunk/show_image.php: [FIX] compile failure (typo "Perns" -> "Perms")
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21788 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-gal.tpl: [FIX] (kind of) mention that we're only looking for Imagick 0, since Imagick 2 support does not seem to happen too quickly
drews: anybody get SEF working in 3.0?
<br> enabling the internal url rewrites causes a 500 error
marclaporte: did you rename _htaccess to .htaccess?
drews: I actually pasted the example .htaccess from the web
<br> my deployment has other custom rewrites
marclaporte: does your server permit .htaccess ?
drews: yes
<br> definitely confirmed that, since my other custom rewrites work
marclaporte: I suggest you copy from your bundled _htaccess to make sure you have right version
drews: well I'll double check that now
<br> 3.2?
<br> maybe I'll just upgrade. It looks like there are a bunch of SEF fixes
marclaporte: 3.2 is great
drews: anything in particular you like?
chibaguy: drews, there are quite a few small but significant fixes since 3.0.
<br> like how the advanced search help displays, some CSS bugs fixed, things like that.
<br> Some of the plugins had bugs that got fixed, or improvements in function.
drews: I'm upgrading from 3.1, but from the changelog it still looks like a lot of fixes
chibaguy: incremental things. the bigger changes are in tiki 4 :-)
drews: chibaguy, are you a contributing developer
<br> ?
chibaguy: yes
drews: what kinda of things can I look forward to?
<br> or is there a features list that I can look at somewhere
<br> ?
chibaguy: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4
drews: sweet
CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21789 10/trunk/tiki-admin_modules.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] rows has its own DB field, so must not be stored in params
<br> tikiwiki: oops
<br> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21790 10/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
<br> tikiwiki: [ENH] change top_images module to new module style (modules-doc).
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] mod-top_images_th
<br> tikiwiki: merge mod-top_images_th in mod-top_images
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r21791 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] wslib.php works by side with perspectiveslib.php and categlib.php. Now it's to cache ws, remove perspectives, and solved some bugs in wslib.php and categlib.php (thanks Filipus for the mail!) ;)
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21792 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic (test contribution - Babelfish feature seems to be broken already)
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03rischconsulting * r21793 10/trunk/templates/mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl: [FIX] Another typo
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gkahla: is there a how-to on creating a private wiki (not publicly accessible) using tikiwiki?
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chibaguy: gkahla, sure. You just set the view permissions appropriately.
gkahla: chibaguy - i'm interested in creating a site with a wiki and user forums, but have it all be private to the web-at-large. View permissions will keep Google and Yahoo at bay?
chibaguy: oh, a howto. I thought you were just asking if it's possible. See http:doc.tikiwiki.org/Permissions
<br> Yes, if registration is required to view, then anonymous visitors, including search spiders, can't access the pages.
<br> or you can have some public pages and some private. The perms are fine-grained.
gkahla: excellent! I believe I've found my solution - thanks for the info
chibaguy: sure
amette: should I change the branch on dev/doc to something else than proposed?
chibaguy: hi amette. I don't know.
<br> :-)
amette: hi chibaguy :)
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amette: I'll be gone for a while, so just ping me here
chibaguy: I guess marc has an idea about that.
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Simmi1: amme
<br> <u>amette</u>: wherever you are going, whatever you are doing, have fun doing it..
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21794 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX]wiki: when using a php conf mbstring.func_overload = 7, need to use only
<br> tikiwiki: subtr fonction and no [] -> TODO: still buggy substr_replace does not work
<br> tikiwiki: correclty with this setting and as the plugin parsing is not multibyte
<br> tikiwiki: compliant: DO NOT USE mbstring.func_overload = 7 BUT 0
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03niclone * r21795 10/trunk/setup.sh: [FIX] setup.sh: added optional parameters to the setup script, so that we can launch it without interaction (script asking parameters). usefull if for exemple setup.sh is launched from an another script.
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GillesM: hi
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chealer: polom
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luciash: polom
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CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21796 10/trunk/_htaccess: restore deleted file in 21641
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<br> tikiwiki: [ENH] change user_image_galleries module to new module style (modules-doc).
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding
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luciash: well done, sylvieg :)
<br> though i don't see mangapowerx as last editor in the log who deleted the file but lph... strange
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<br> tikiwiki: [ENH] change top_image_galleries module to new module style (modules-doc).
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding
<br> tikiwiki: 03luciash * r21800 10/trunk/green.favicon.png: [DEL] green.favicon.png: unused and unnecessary file
<br> tikiwiki: 03luciash * r21801 10/trunk/AllTests.php: [KIL] AllTests.php: this file shouldn't be in Tiki root... please put it in tiki_tests/ an name it lowercase to avoid problems ( see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/DevTips#File_names_conventions_and_generalities )
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<br> tikiwiki: [ENH] change radnom_images module to new module style (modules-doc).
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding
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marclaporte: <u>luciash</u>: +1 to your change on tw.o (help float)
<br> but when I click link :http://tikiwiki.org/blogpost388
<br> rewrite rules are weird
luciash: it's wiki parsing bug, yep
<br> ah, ok, different bug :)
<br> i mean in the parenthesis i put the link to the forum post... and the link takes the closing parenthesis... that's the parsing bug
<br> i am not sure i have access to tw.o .htaccess
<br> to fix the rewrite rule
marclaporte: long pages with many headers don't look very good
<br> we would need styling for h2, h3, etc.
luciash: yea
marclaporte: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4#First_impressions
-: luciash going to fix top menu items with no submenu now
<br> luciash putting separator before Events and making it option
marclaporte: :-)
luciash: same for the rest
<br> changed My Dashboard to My Account if you don't mind
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sylvieg: fyi I cd tikitrunkfresk; svn up -r 21640 _htaccess ; cd ../tikitrunk; svn copy ../tikitrunkfresh/_htaccess _htaccess ; svn commit _htaccess
CIA-88: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21803 10/trunk/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] Short link
<br> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21804 10/trunk/installer/tiki-installer.php: [DEL] Removing unsupported database code
marclaporte: luciash : +1
<br> <u>luciash</u>: would be nice direct link to My Userpage
<br> I don't know if we can do in menu, but in tpl, we can use {$user}
luciash: do u think it is possible in menus ? i know it can be made in custom area...
<br> heheh
<br> [Check for updates now.] doesn't tell me 3.2 is out :(
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