#tikiwiki 2009-10-02,Fri

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chealer	sylvieg: I'm wondering how module _help functions work. could you direct me to see where mod_last_files_help, for example, could be called from?	[00:03]
SEWilco2	chealer: my guess is there is a mod_$variable() call someplace chealer: I'd try grep function_exists.mod_ Or grep mod.help	[00:05]
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chealer	SEWilco2: good idea SEWilco2: only found in modules/	[00:32]
SEWilco2	chealer: That seems like the obvious place.	[00:35]
chealer	SEWilco2: I mean, it's found in individual modules code, but not in libs or modules infrastructure	[00:48]
SEWilco2	Help for modules. That would only be needed in an Admin section for mods, I think. So the .php which creates the list of mods might use those help functions.	[00:50]
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SEWilco2	Maybe tiki-mods.php calls those.	[00:53]
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chealer	SEWilco2: tiki-mods.php is for "modifications" mods. but tiki-admin_modules.php doesn't seem to call the help functions.	[01:09]
SEWilco2	chealer: Find the text emitted by one of those functions. Google for the string. See what page emitted it.	[01:11]
chealer	SEWilco2: good idea, but doesn't seem to work found in code but nowhere else	[01:14]
SEWilco2	chealer: Maybe the names of mods are passed to *.tpl files which emit the HTML. Maybe tooltips, that Google wouldn't notice?	[01:17]
chealer	SEWilco2: that would be particular, but I grepped the whole tree anyway. maybe	[01:19]
SEWilco2	I see some popup text at bottom of tiki-admin_modules.php page. Shows parameters.	[01:23]
	chealer: The "Assign new module" area has a help icon by "Parameters". That looks like the only place that makes sense.	[01:28]
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chealer	SEWilco2: yeah, but it doesn't look like anything more than a link to http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Module+Parameters	[01:33]
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SEWilco2	chealer: Maybe when one edits an existing module it changes? Or is AJAX needed to change it when one selects a module? chealer: Or maybe someone needs to enhance that part of the page to actually use the _help info.	[01:51]
chealer	SEWilco2: what does it mean to have AJAX enabled, just javascript on the browser or what?	[01:54]
SEWilco2	chealer: It tends to be more network-active javascript. Ordinary javascript would probably load all of the parameter help at page startup.	[01:55]
chealer	SEWilco2: I mean, it doesn't change for me when editing an existing module, so how would I enable AJAX besides enabling javascript? SEWilco2: that's a bit what I'm wondering, yes	[01:56]
SEWilco2	chealer: I think nobody is presently using the _help info. If it was being used, it should be on that page.	[01:58]
chealer	SEWilco2: yeah, I'm suspecting the same	[01:59]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21942 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-last_images.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] missing galleryId param declaration tikiwiki: oops tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21943 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] change last_files module to new module style (modules-doc). tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding	[03:03]
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chealer	lost uh, sorry	[03:28]
SEWilco2	Oh, you did that? Ouch.	[03:29]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21944 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: somewhat document last_category_objects()	[04:22]
	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21945 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] change last_category_objects module to new module style (modules-doc). tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding tikiwiki: [FIX] maxlen notices tikiwiki: [MOD] Change module title to "Last category objects", fixing some poor cases. This is still far from ideal	[04:29]
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Petey_	evening guys, anyone know how to remove users' theme preferences and force them back to a single theme?	[04:43]
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Petey_	ok, does anyone know why every time i save an edit, it gets added to the existing content, rather than replacing it?	[05:48]
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chealer	Petey_: what do you mean by saving an edit?	[06:07]
Petey_	i click the edit button, make changes in the editor and click "save" the result is my changes, PLUS what was already on the page	[06:07]
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chealer	Petey_: and what do you mean by your changes here? could you show us?	[06:14]
Petey_	i could, but i'd have to give you admin on the wiki, which i'd rather not do. i guess i could change the password real quick :) go here: http://wiki.routecloud.com login with admin/kevlar and edit the home page try deleting the duplicate text, you'll end up with 3 copies of it	[06:14]
chealer	Petey_: I don't see the problem	[06:20]
Petey_	look at the page now i tried deleting your paragraph. i added a new user, and everything works fine... login as admin, and that happens deleting all the content seems to work	[06:20]
chealer	Petey_: I edited as admin. perhaps you can do a screencast	[06:26]
Petey_	hmm. let me see	[06:27]
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Petey_	do you have gotoMeeting installed? if you do, join meeting: 887-035-440	[06:32]
chealer	Petey_: no	[06:36]
Petey_	bummer windows box? i can link a WMV of the problem or i can convert it to an FLV	[06:36]
chealer	Petey_: no, but I can read most WMV-s	[06:40]
Petey_	k.. i'll post it up here in a second	[06:41]
chealer	...actually, the only problematic codec I know of is MSS2, which IIRC is specifically for screencasts :/ but we'll see	[06:41]
Petey_	checkout the video: http:/wiki.routecloud.com/petey/tiki-issue.wmv	[06:48]
chealer	Petey_: I see - did you try that with a decent browser, just in case?	[06:53]
Petey_	IE, chrome and Safari on PC and Mac i watched the HTTP traffic during the submission, the POST is correct, it contains just my changes so it's happing on the server	[06:53]
chealer	Petey_: which Tiki version do you use?	[06:55]
Petey_	3.2	[06:56]
chealer	Petey_: ...do you know PHP/algorithms?	[07:00]
Petey_	enough to be dangerous i'm a java guy during the day :)	[07:00]
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Petey_	if i create a new user, and gran him admin, the problem goes away. so it's related to the Admin account, and not permissions.	[07:06]
chealer	Petey_: you could try xdebug and figure out the problem or just send us a trace. Petey_: someone else hit that issue: http://irc.tikiwiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2009-05-27,Wed&sel=630#l626	[07:07]
Petey_	good to know i'm not alone :) do you have a bug tracking url? i could post the data there when i get it	[07:09]
chealer	Petey_: yes, http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Report+a+Bug	[07:10]
Petey_	um... it's gone now can't reproduce it any mroe	[07:12]
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Petey_	no, it's back now.	[07:15]
chealer	Petey_: you could also start by gathering an SQL log	[07:25]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21946 10/trunk/templates/tiki-upload_file.tpl: [FIX] Missing quote typo (was making description textarea not appear)	[10:37]
luciash	hello jonnyb: is it still posible to edit/add custom icons to the toolbars ? cannot find it in trunk	[10:42]
jonnyb	hi luciash yes, i think i fixed it, but no one else has used it (or found it)	[10:43]
luciash	:)	[10:44]
jonnyb	it's on toolbars admin still needs a "new" button - but if you drag a tool onto the custom tools list it'll bring up a dialog	[10:44]
luciash	any tool ? ok i will try heh, yep, it brings up the dialog but i have white text on very light input fileds :-p	[10:47]
jonnyb	odd - i fixed that (on strasa i think)	[10:49]
luciash	oh, let me finish the svn up then ;) what should go to the "Wysiwyg Token" filed btw ?	[10:49]
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jonnyb	depends what you want it to do in wysiwyg (has to be something fck editor understands)	[10:51]
luciash	*field	[10:51]
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jonnyb	needs some documentation, doesn't it :)	[10:51]
luciash	i saved but now i need to edit it again... is it still possible ?	[10:52]
jonnyb	double click it?	[10:52]
luciash	aah :-p the Edit tool is jQuery UI ? sf.net is not in a good mood it seems :-/ svn: SSL negotiation failed: Secure connection truncated	[10:52]
	jonnyb: works nicely, thanks for help	[11:08]
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jonnyb	:)) yup, jquery ui dialog would be nice to use that all over the place	[11:09]
luciash_	damn, don't press ctrl+z in wrong window ;) yep, i was also thinking about boxification of the plugin edit helper or even section edits... but jQuery UI could be also an option boxification == shadowboxification/colorboxification ;)	[11:09]
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luci	what is a general term for all those *boxes ? lightbox/greybox/shadowbox/colorbox/fancybox etc-	[11:16]
jonnyb	thickbox, thinbox... they are legion	[11:17]
luci	:)	[11:18]
	wikipedia says "modal window" ?	[11:23]
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luci	or "modal box" but it is more for confirmation dialogs wow: http://planetozh.com/projects/lightbox-clones/ ;) "somehow cool CSS popups" :-p	[11:26]
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luci	oh, the matrix says colorbox cannot display flash :-o !?	[11:30]
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latlink	latlink Is there someway of knowing what version of the database i have is up to date?	[11:51]
luci	latlink: Admin page will tell you if the db needs upgrade	[11:52]
latlink	latlink I have been updating a parallel test site using svn and I started wondering if there were any MySql updates that I have missed	[11:53]
luci	but it's always safe to go to installer and re-run the upgrade aah	[11:53]
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latlink	latlink um - ok - but I was hoping to help with bug detection	[11:54]
luci	nope, you have to check manually if your mysql version is up-to-date	[11:54]
latlink	latlink Good - Where to check? latlink I have looked over the dev site latlink Is the db version indicated in the db somewhere?	[11:55]
luci	you have to go to see what min. version is recommended and then mysql -v i guess (or see in your phpmyadmin)	[11:56]
latlink	latlink Sorry the MYSQL is up to date latlink I was referring to the Tiki schema	[11:56]
luci	fine	[11:56]
latlink	latlink I was looking for confirmation somehow that the tiki schema is the correct version to match the latest SVN update	[11:57]
luci	so as i told you, if it says nothing on Admin, your db is upgraded to match the Tiki version you use	[11:57]
latlink	latlink ok - I'll go check that - thks	[11:57]
luci	otherwise it will tell you your db needs upgrade i am not sure now, maybe on Admin > General :)	[11:58]
latlink	latlink Well looked there and I get "current version is up to date 3.2" latlink I would think that the SQL scripts would write a version number somewhere in a db table	[11:59]
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latlink	latlink The reason for all this: the latest svn upgrade included db/.. sql scripts and I was wondering if i needed to run any script to alter/update my db.	[12:04]
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luci	latlink_: the problem is sometimes devs forgot to add the upgrade schemas in trunk ;)	[12:17]
latlink_	latlink_ Sure - I understand - that is why I am looking for a version number somewhere to save me looking at each table and comparing with latest.	[12:18]
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luci	latlink__: it will not help you anyway unless someone adds the upgrade scripts... the db/*.sql changes will apply only on fresh installs latlink__: you can check the code of admin page what it checks if db is up-to-date	[12:26]
latlink__	latlink__ true - but is this not routinely done in this development phase? latlink__ Actually it tells me that I have current version but also that my database requires update.	[12:27]
luci	latlink__: some newbie devs don't know what everything is necessary to update and commit yes, your database requires update... that is what you were looking for ;) so your db is not up-to-date	[12:28]
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luci	just go to installer and upgrade then the message will disappear	[12:29]
latlink__	latlink__ Yes - I am backing up my db now (forgot passwd - I'll get it when I go back to work) latlink__ thks for your help and chat	[12:29]
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latlink	latlink Luci_ ran the upgrade and all looks ok - thks again. Good to know it all works.	[12:46]
luci	latlink: np	[12:46]
latlink	latlink Luck I remember my passwds for remote access. cheers	[12:47]
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sylvieg	luciash: the inline popup was not working on my local yesterday because ther is an interference with the comments - If I desactive wiki comments - it works fine - need to debug that..	[12:58]
luci	sylvieg: hmm, isn't there FADE plugin in one of the comments ? or was it with the #foo ?	[12:59]
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sylvieg	Ido not know yet	[13:00]
HerrPi	why do i get an error message if i try to integrate a module into a wiki page? e.g.: {MODULE(module="shoutbox")}{MODULE} "An error occured in a database query!"	[13:01]
luci	any details ? maybe your db is not upgraded ?	[13:08]
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HerrPi	what do you mean by "upgraded"? i just installed a fresh version 3.2... Query: INSERT INTO tiki_plugin_security (fingerprint, status, added_by, last_objectType, last_objectId) VALUES(?, ?, ?, ?, ?) Built query was probably: INSERT INTO tiki_plugin_security (fingerprint, status, added_by, last_objectType, last_objectId) VALUES('module-d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e-d74d9a3fd17f9649f670297b3eb75fb8-000000-340000', 'pending', 'admin', 'wiki page', 'Test')	[13:33]
luci	HerrPi: goto tiki-install.php and do the upgrade step	[13:43]
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sdfasdf	buenas	[13:51]
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HerrPi	luci: ok, i did that step but it didn't work...	[13:52]
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luci	HerrPi: oh, then it sound like a new bug in 3.2 :( HerrPi: does it with other modules too ? HerrPi: except shoutbox	[14:00]
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HerrPi	yeah, with the minichat, too!	[14:19]
luciash	:( you got the zip from sf.net and all files extracted properly ?	[14:20]
CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21947 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: notice	[14:21]
HerrPi	yes!	[14:23]
luciash	HerrPi: can you please report a bug ? >devtwo Report+a+bug?fullscreen=y	[14:25]
Sug4r	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Report+a+bug?fullscreen=y	[14:25]
CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03robferguson * r21948 10/trunk/ (styles/strasa.css templates/modules/mod-last_blog_posts.tpl): [FIX] added space for blog posts in module and fixed siteloginbar position	[14:26]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21949 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX]TRACKER: need also to keep autoincrement for a pertty tracker without fields param	[14:37]
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themurph	chealer: Hey, I've got that xdebug you asked for. It isn't very revealing so maybe there's a setting that I can use to get more verbose. chealer:http://pastebin.com/d3a0d2fdd chealer: I went to http://<sitename>/tiki_login.php in a browser to get that.	[14:53]
luciash	sylvieg: any idea what embedded=y does in TRACKER plugin ?	[14:55]
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sylvieg	luciash - lookink at teh code it is about the tricky field name 'page' that do an automatic filter ... old stuff	[15:13]
luciash	i looked at the code and couldn't decipher it anyway :)	[15:14]
HerrPi	luciash: yeah, i will report a bug as soon as i have the time! thanks for the help!	[15:14]
luciash	HerrPi: np, you're welcome	[15:15]
sylvieg	I explain better if a field is name 'name' TRACKERLIST and TRACKER filters on th item that has the field name = param page need to document that soemwhere it is bad .. and it is replaced now with the page selector	[15:15]
luciash	i thought page= is for wiki page templates of Pretty Tracker as opposed to the tpl= param sylvieg: ah sorry, you don't mean the param page of the TRACKER plugin but the fieldtype, ok	[15:16]
sylvieg	the param in the url I would like to kill this feature	[15:20]
luciash	i completely have no clue, so i believe you know what to do best ;)	[15:21]
sylvieg	it is a bad implementation of the page selector (like rating) by the way that repose on a field name - bad bad... people can call a field page or rating if they want... is there a way to watch file attachment in wiki?	[15:23]
luciash	watch for changes ? i don't think so	[15:24]
sylvieg	when somebody uploads a file in a wiki page	[15:25]
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sylvieg	.. I though the feature was there - but can notm find the setiing...	[15:25]
luciash	sylvieg: it should be the same as when comment is added	[15:25]
sylvieg	sylvieg looks at the code to find the setting	[15:25]
luciash	the implementation	[15:25]
HerrPi	another thing: if i want to change a few specific translations in the tiki system (some menu entries or other stuff). can i just change the language.php file or how do i apply my changes?	[15:26]
sylvieg	it is more easier to put the string in local tiki-admin.php?page=i18n -> customized string translation easier for next upgrade	[15:27]
luciash	sylvieg: does it work with lang/cs/custom.php ?	[15:28]
sylvieg	yes I think so - if I remember well the admin panel stores .. in the_lang/custom.php	[15:28]
luciash	i will test ;)	[15:29]
sylvieg	perhaps you need a write perm on the directory	[15:29]
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HerrPi	the problem is that some of the left menu entries aren't translated into german at all. i just added a customized string translation. but nothing is changed...	[15:30]
sylvieg	clear all the cache	[15:31]
luciash	tiki-admin_system.php?do=all	[15:31]
sylvieg	and HerrPi you are welcome to join the team to add more translations	[15:31]
HerrPi	ok, it worked! the problem was, that some words of some strings were capitalized in the php but not on the website...	[15:34]
luciash	darn, i wonder why file upload doesn't work on my test site of proposed branch (it says at the upload page 10M is max size and the image is less than 2M) ah, it must be "Store in database" problem :( it should warn me at least	[15:38]
CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r21950 10/trunk/lang/pt-br/language.php: pt-br translation	[15:41]
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chibaguy	polom	[15:53]
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luciash	hello chibaguy	[15:54]
chibaguy	luciash, how are you and how are things going? :-)	[15:55]
luciash	great :) nobody wants to kill me yet ;) chibaguy: greetings to d. from a. :)	[15:55]
chibaguy	that's good news. :-) d. also sends greetings to a.	[15:58]
luciash	how about you ? no tsunami yet ? (i hope)	[16:04]
chibaguy	no, we're far away from that this time. I was wondering about franck, but I guess he's ok.	[16:06]
luciash	yeah those islands weren't affected i guess	[16:06]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21951 10/trunk/lib/cache/cachelib.php: [FIX] Stop the multi-tiki dirs being deleted when flushing caches	[16:11]
luciash	how do rss feeds work exactly ? when downloaded and somehing is then changed they don't get updated, right ? i mean when permissions change... only when there is new content, right ? so when something leaks to rss feed and then the permissions for that page get fixed, it is too late... is that correct ?	[16:23]
chealer	themurph: oh, right, there's a problem in debugging redirections - the second page serve overwrites the first trace - I'll try to remember the workaround	[16:31]
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chealer	themurph: I think the trick is to set "xdebug.trace_output_name = trace.%R.%c", which should allow you to get both traces - the one that matters is the first	[16:38]
themurph	chealer: I saw something about appending to traces, let me try that.	[16:40]
CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21952 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.popup_link.php: tikiwiki: [ENH] Allow CSS class to be set on popup_links tikiwiki: (also removed no jQuery warning as it's 'always on' and this is irrelevant if JS disabled) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21953 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Show all group columns if number of groups has changed (thanks LP) tikiwiki: Also make show/hide groups link look like a button.	[16:41]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21954 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [MOD] New getCaretPos() function (not tested in IE as yet)	[16:48]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21955 10/trunk/lib/ (jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php): tikiwiki: [ENH] Autocomplete page names in wiki edit - type "((" to initiate. tikiwiki: Only in Firefox as yet, more to come...	[16:56]
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themurph	chealer: holy crap-sicle! for some reason the installer didn't put in the <webroot>/db/local.php file. So I copied over the one from the previous install and it's working like a charm	[17:02]
MacLeod	@ #tikiwiki: Some of our RSS links to external feeds erroneously point to our Tiki root directory. Any idea if this is a Tiki (v3.1) problem, or perhaps related to the configuration of the external feed source?	[17:03]
themurph	chealer: Thanks a lot chealer! I really didn't want to go through the hassle of something like xdebug since this project was only a favor for a friend but I really learned a lot.	[17:03]
SEWilco2	MacLeod: I have several external RSS feeds and they seem OK. Maybe someone forgot http: ahead of the feed URL?	[17:06]
MacLeod	Many of our external feeds are linked correctly, too. I'm not familiar with the different formats, though, and thought perhaps Tiki may not play nice with some of them.	[17:07]
SEWilco2	MacLeod: For site feeds (RSS from the server) I had other configuration irritations, like the feed's URL being the RSS URL instead of the object's URL.	[17:07]
MacLeod	We don't publish any site feeds from our Tiki (which is internal-only), so I haven't seen any of those errors.	[17:08]
SEWilco2	MacLeod: Having trouble with a feed content should not affect the URL to retrieve data from. Maybe you should clarify "erroneously point to our Tiki root directory". What has what value?	[17:09]
MacLeod	There's one other external RSS bug that I think is Tiki: it inserts a <x> into the URL of feeds from Google News. This started happening after we upgraded to v3.1. To clarify: The feed is correctly displaying its headlines. However, the hyperlink for the headline points to Tiki root.	[17:09]
SEWilco2	MacLeod: Gr<x>rr. Yeah, someone must have forgotten to not clean those inputs.	[17:10]
MacLeod	The <x> problem is a separate issue. (Don't want to confuse things more than I am.)	[17:10]
SEWilco2	The feed's URL in the external RSS admin page is correct, but the feed's URL where the feed is displayed is not pointing to the external site? Check which tool you're using to display the RSS feed (the RSS plugin or an RSS module) and then check on dev.two.o for any bug reports for that tool. Whatever tool you're using, if the problem is bad info in the RSS feed, the tool really shouldn't generate a hyperlink at all.	[17:11]
MacLeod	The last time I searched bugs on dev, the site crashed. :(	[17:14]
SEWilco2	Great. We used to have a guy like that at work. We had him test all the major changes. He managed to crash the terminal server through a timing bug.	[17:15]
CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21956 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Errors (Missing arguments for Multilingual_MachineTranslation_GoogleTranslateWrapper::__construct()) tikiwiki: I guessed what they might be... tikiwiki: Also fixed compile errors in GoogleTranslateWrapper (unescaped $s) while is was there. tikiwiki: Seems to still work.	[17:15]
SEWilco2	It's possible the external site has bad info. If you're on Linux, you can use wget to fetch the data. Maybe they used a relative URL where an absolute URL is required.	[17:16]
MacLeod	Yes, the feed's URL in the RSS admin page is correct, but when the feed is displayed on a page, the hyperlinks on the feed title and its headlines point to Tiki root. We're using the Smarty rss plugin. (Isn't the plugin the only RSS display tool in v3.x?)	[17:16]
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SEWilco2	I've also displayed RSS feeds in a module, but I don't remember if there is a module for that or if I used the RSS plugin in a user module.	[17:17]
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SEWilco2	Sounds like you found some sort of bug in the RSS plugin. It's either an error in processing the URL, or in trying to display a URL when no URL is available. If there is a valid channel URL in the RSS data, then it's a URL processing bug. What is the RSS feed's URL? I can look at the data.	[17:20]
CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21957 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]popup: to avoid to have the box at an absolute position - that can never work in the calendar as the day boxes have not fixed width - place relative to the cursor	[17:25]
MacLeod	looking for a specific feed... SEWilco2: Here's one - http://orthospinenews.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default	[17:31]
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SEWilco2	MacLeod: I don't see any bad href URLs for the feed. And it's in Atom format, which is common enough that it should work. MacLeod: So either the RSS reader isn't finding something it needs, or the RSS plugin is dropping the URL before emitting the link. MacLeod: Look for a similar bug report and file a new one if one doesn't exist. Include that RSS URL so someone can test with it. Mention your version of TW. MacLeod: Oh, nice. A bone-like putty. Some surgeons will find that useful.	[17:42]
MacLeod	SEWilco2: Thx, will do.	[17:49]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21958 10/trunk/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] Correct module-flip icon no-display\|display in custom modules.	[17:57]
sylvieg	Is it planned to kill wiki attachmnets and to replace them by fgal - like the job is done for the image	[17:59]
ricks99	ricks99 hopes not. image gallery for wiki images is a giant PITA for end-users	[18:03]
SEWilco2	I think by "wiki attachments" you mean files attached to wiki pages. Good. Those have some uses but are hard to administer. Oh, good. The wiki attachments weren't searchable, but filegals are text searchable.	[18:06]
MacLeod	Dammit, my bug search of dev timed out again. I haven't had a successful bug search on dev.tw.o for weeks.	[18:19]
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SEWilco2	MacLeod: OK, file a bug report on search. :-(	[18:36]
MacLeod	Am I the only one having this problem?	[18:37]
chealer	MacLeod: how do you do the search?	[18:43]
MacLeod	chealer: 1. http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Search+Bugs 2. Report type: select all "Bug" types 3. Version: 3.x and 4.x 4. Feature: RSS 5. Related project: Leave at default "Any" 6. Click "Filter" button. 7. Wait for many minutes. 8. Read error message. 9. Want new dogfood.	[18:44]
chealer	MacLeod: results appear fairly quickly	[18:47]
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MacLeod	Perkele! So it IS working for others!	[18:48]
amette	Perkele?!? LOL :D	[18:55]
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luciash	heh	[19:05]
MacLeod	MacLeod works with some Finns.	[19:05]
luciash	luciash uses only the little search input on top right :-p	[19:06]
amette	aaah, nice :)	[19:06]
luciash	hi amette :)	[19:08]
amette	heya, bracho	[19:08]
luciash	nice to c u still keep an eye on this channel ;)	[19:08]
amette	sure, not very active currently, but I'm always with you guys ;)	[19:09]
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luciash	sylvieg or anyone... is there rule to commit only one revision backport to proposed ? at one shot or can i commit more revisions as backport in one ?	[20:04]
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luciash	sylvieg: can i commit more revisions as backport in one ?	[20:06]
sylvieg	yes	[20:06]
luciash	or only one trunk rev merge per backport ?	[20:06]
sylvieg	non better to have one 'conceptual' commit	[20:06]
luciash	ok, so i have to write like [bp/rXXXXX][bp/r... ?	[20:07]
sylvieg	luciash - do you remember where there is a javascript confirmation in tw? usually I do [bp/r xxxx, yyyy] but I do not think nyloth need a special syntax	[20:07]
luciash	ok i don't remember	[20:08]
marclaporte	sylvieg: any luck on trackers items for category transitions/perspectives/workspaces ?	[20:10]
sylvieg	not today again - I need to go away from internet next week	[20:10]
marclaporte	hehe comme take a week off in Orlando :-)	[20:10]
sylvieg	so .. no one for the javascript confirmation popup...	[20:11]
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sylvieg	confirm.tpl I think..	[20:13]
luciash	maybe, what you need it for ?	[20:18]
SEWilco2	amette says "always with you", then an IRC storm knocks everyone out. Timing!	[20:18]
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sylvieg	in TRACKER - to delete an attach	[20:19]
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luciash	sylvieg: ah, nice	[20:38]
sylvieg	hmm what is the name of the breadcrumb module now?	[20:39]
luciash	wasn't it KILled ?	[20:39]
sylvieg	he? was very useful for debug	[20:39]
luciash	in trunk i just guess nothing sure :)	[20:40]
sylvieg	was rename recently visited pages ... I will haev choose Last	[20:42]
luciash	phew ;)	[20:43]
CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21959 10/trunk/tiki-admin_modules.php: [FIX]modules: at least sort a little -> todo sort with no case	[20:46]
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luciash	anybody knows where is initial $user defined ? cannot grep it	[21:30]
sylvieg	tiki-setup_base I bet look around user_cookie	[21:32]
luciash	sylvieg: tnx	[21:42]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21962 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic deployment to messages admin grid	[22:00]
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luciash	pkdille: hi, wouldn't it be slower ?	[22:27]
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marclaporte	polom	[22:29]
luciash	marclaporte: what if we want to change from table layout to divs ? or add something special to the preference ? (extra note or more cells if table so another colspan would be needed...)	[22:30]
marclaporte	luciash: : you can always continue to have full control if you leave as now I expect that 5-10% will never be converted because it's too specific/complex	[22:30]
luciash	i mean it will be cleaner code in templates for sure but fear loosing context and slowdown because of all the processing of arrays	[22:31]
marclaporte	admin panel: do we care if it's slow? To improve templates: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences#Templates	[22:32]
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luciash	so only some general repetitible prefs will be put like this ? sure admins get angry if it will slow down ;)	[22:32]
marclaporte	yes, all checkboxes, drop downs hehe	[22:32]
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luciash	>bug 2777	[22:49]
Sug4r	see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2777	[22:49]
luciash	someone forgot something there before 3.2 release	[22:50]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21963 10/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic deployment to copyright admin grid	[23:03]
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