#tikiwiki 2009-10-09,Fri

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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22124 10/trunk/lib/core/lib/TikiDb/Pdo.php: [FIX] PostgreSQL: ERROR: LIMIT #,# syntax is not supported HINT: Use separate LIMIT and OFFSET clauses.	[00:02]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22125 10/trunk/lib/ (core/lib/TikiDb.php tikilib.php): [FIX] PostgreSQL: fix to avoid invalid input syntax for integer: "value" (sorry, the previous didn't work)	[00:29]
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luciash	default barebones installation now works in Postgres	[00:46]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22126 10/trunk/lib/wiki/semanticlib.php: tikiwiki: [MOD] semanticlib: adding backticks to camelCase names tikiwiki: [FIX] PostgreSQL: editing wiki page now works	[01:02]
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ndowens	Ok I am trying to create a menu on the top bar, so people can click on it to go to that page. kinda like the bar at the very top of the tiki homepage I have been trying to work with the menu option in admin but I can't figure it out, maybe someone could point me to the right direction	[06:53]
	anyone please	[06:59]
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chibaguy	ndowens, menus are made at tiki-admin_menus.php. when the menu is created, it gets an id number. Then you enter that number in the topbar menu id box on tiki-admin.php?page=look go to http://doc.tikiwiki.org for details.	[07:25]
ndowens	thx	[07:29]
	I almost got it. but it only shows the option when I am signed in as admin, even though I have it set to show with anonymous as well	[07:43]
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	chibaguy: don't understand why the menu goes away after sign out	[07:58]
chibaguy	try clearing your caches (tiki-admin_system.php). Other than that, I don't know. also try clearing your browser's cache	[08:02]
ndowens	nope	[08:06]
chibaguy	I recall seeing that problem (reports), but don't know what the solution is. Maybe somebody will read the log here and have an answer.	[08:14]
ndowens	I just cleared out my database for it, and gonna retry again, maybe I did something wrong, no clue only thing left that i know to try	[08:14]
chibaguy	ok	[08:23]
ndowens	still does it	[08:24]
chibaguy	as I said, maybe someone else will see the irc log and have an answer. It's the slow time of day in this channel, still.	[08:28]
ndowens	well i figured out how to do it on the left side of page :-) it's a start	[08:38]
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luciash	hi hey chibaguy, mollio theme looks realy good i like the styling on menus especially ;)	[10:02]
chibaguy	hi luciash yes, the designer(s) of mollio made some good things to use for tiki :-) the menu dropdown background images are cool, but afaik they prevent the menu from having a shadow, since they are the ul background already.	[10:06]
luciash	but you made the styling of the menus ! :) ah it looks cool without the shadow too	[10:10]
chibaguy	yeah, a good tradeoff. I'll commit the files to svn users/ pretty soon.	[10:11]
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chibaguy	the original mollio also uses one image file for a lot of the icons, displaying them as sprites, with big -margins to offset, etc. Some good ideas to learn from. mostly I carried over the same css for tiki.	[10:14]
luciash	yep, sprites are nice	[10:16]
chibaguy	maybe something to think about for tiki 5, if there's nothing else to do ;-)	[10:26]
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luciash	haha	[10:37]
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Bamieater	how can I show the edit fields of a tracker form for Anonymous users? using the PluginTracker to display the form, it lists the field name, but doesn't list the edit fields Anonymous has the permission tiki_p_create_tracker_items	[11:59]
luciash	Bamieater: try the TRACKER plugin in a wiki page otherwise you need to assign perm tiki_p_modify_tracker_items	[12:02]
Bamieater	luciash: this you mean? {TRACKER(trackerId=>1, action=>Verstuur, showmandatory=>y, embedded=>n)}Bedankt voor uw bestelling. We nemen zo spoedig mogelijk contact met u op.{TRACKER} yeah, I have that in a wiki page as admin it does display the names + edit fields, as anonymous user it does display the names, but doesn't display the edit fields	[12:04]
luciash	Bamieater: i understand, i have it working somehow here: Bamieater: i can have a look what i have set there	[12:11]
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luciash	Bamieater: {TRACKER(email="\|57\|custom_thank_you.tpl",fields="52:53:54:55:56:57:58", trackerId="4", action="Odeslat", colwidth="20%", url="tiki-index.php?page=Děkujeme")}{TRACKER} Bamieater: tiki_p_create_tracker_item is enough	[12:15]
Bamieater	hmm let me try to quote the parameters first	[12:19]
luciash	Bamieater: make sure your fields have "Field is public? (viewed in trackerlist plugin)" set	[12:21]
Bamieater	yes, was about to ask that next, how you setup the fields :-)	[12:22]
luciash	Bamieater: i think that should do the trick for you	[12:22]
Bamieater	Field is public is checked Field is hidden: not hidden Visible/editable by: Anonymous	[12:22]
luciash	Bamieater: i ave nothing else set for these fields it is 3.1	[12:24]
Bamieater	hmm 2.x upgrading to 3.x breaks a lot of other features, so that's not an option so only Field is public checked, will try to remove all those other options first	[12:25]
luciash	i bet that's the problem for you... was probably fixed in 3.x	[12:27]
Bamieater	then I am sure it isn't a pebkac issue ;-)	[12:27]
luciash	you can try tiki_p_modify_tracker_item but then anonymous can edit every tracker item i guess	[12:28]
Bamieater	hmm, but the 2.x documentation states it should work yeah, tried tiki_p_modify_tracker_item also	[12:28]
luciash	Bamieater: you can also try to get only the plugin from 3.x and replace yours	[12:29]
Caarrie	Bamieater: are you sure that the page has not been updated [the doc] to 3.x ?	[12:29]
Bamieater	yeah, or check which bugs are fixed Caarrie: docs mentioned 2.x	[12:29]
Caarrie	you could also try to let the devs like luciash know what issuse are with 3.x *issues so they can be fixed or they can tell you what can be done to fix them on your end they do sometimes have security fixes that could be important to your site	[12:29]
Bamieater	yeah, but 2.x -> 3.x breaks a lot of features in our case	[12:31]
luciash	Bamieater: btw, only speciality checkbox i have ticked on tiki-admin_trackers.php?trackerId=4 is "Only one item per user or IP" if that matters	[12:31]
Bamieater	hmm	[12:31]
luciash	but i don't guess so	[12:32]
Caarrie	Bamieater: and my point is you should let the devs know what breaks so they can fix it or tell you how to fix it, saying it does not work does not fix the issue with the upgrade they are working on the next major release already so you will only fall further behind with fixes and security issues	[12:32]
luciash	Caarrie: i guess it is fixed in 3.x and we won't fix it for 2.x ;)	[12:33]
Caarrie	i figured that luciash so an upgrade and fixing his other issues could help ;)	[12:33]
Bamieater	Caarrie: yeah, I will check the diffs between 2.x and 3.x of plugintracker	[12:33]
luciash	ah, the other issues, right :)	[12:33]
Caarrie	Bamieater: that is not my point	[12:34]
Bamieater	ah	[12:34]
Caarrie	Bamieater: it is all your issues why you cant upgrade and what does not work when you do	[12:34]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22127 10/trunk/lib/workspaces/wslib.php: [FIX] Missing global	[12:34]
luciash	Caarrie: maybe php4 ? ;)	[12:34]
Caarrie	sounds like he has tried to upgrade already, so i dont think so	[12:34]
Bamieater	already discussed this in this channel with someone else and decided to roll back to 2.x	[12:34]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22128 10/trunk/lib/ajax/tiki-ajax.js: [FIX] Don't show big grey box of AJAX triggered by something other than loadComponent (e.g. autosave)	[12:34]
Caarrie	well maybe they were not the only one that could help Bamieater there are many devs here at different times with different abilities to help	[12:35]
Bamieater	yeah, have php5 :-)	[12:35]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22129 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: [NEW] New function to get all perm features	[12:35]
Caarrie	you could explain to luciash and see what he suggests	[12:35]
luciash	Bamieater: if you reported a bug you can point to it here using >bug XXYY where XXYY is the ID of the bug	[12:35]
Caarrie	>bug luciash	[12:36]
Sug4r`	see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bugluciash	[12:36]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22130 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.treetable.php: [ENH] New param for treetable to allow HTML in column data	[12:36]
luciash	:) Caarrie: i am not an ID ;)	[12:36]
Caarrie	you so sure?	[12:36]
Bamieater	luciash: I think there are no bugs involved	[12:37]
luciash	gotta code, bbl	[12:37]
Caarrie	Bamieater: if it does not work right it is a bug	[12:37]
Bamieater	one big issue is that the theme will break, but that's already known	[12:37]
Caarrie	many people have upgraded from 2.x to 3.x with no issues and not spoken up about things that have broken	[12:38]
Bamieater	can't really remember everything there was a problem with FancyTable	[12:39]
Caarrie	well you could copy your db and run an upgrade seperatly and see what happens and let the devs help fix the issues	[12:39]
Bamieater	but iirc that was fixed immediately	[12:40]
Caarrie	ok	[12:40]
Bamieater	I also tried loads of upgrade paths 2.x -> 3.0 -> 3.1 for example	[12:41]
Caarrie	well unless you list your issues again and what seems to break or not work as expected none of the devs can help you, and therefore you cant take advantage of fixes and new features	[12:42]
Bamieater	yeah, will dive into it again :-)	[12:42]
Caarrie	ok	[12:42]
Bamieater	thank you guys for your help so far :-)	[12:43]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22131 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] New features picker tab for object perms. tikiwiki: Various other fixes and minor improvements.	[12:43]
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sylvieg	How can I rate a forum post .. I see the score value. But I do not see where I can scrore it?	[13:14]
	found it - I can not vote my own post ;-)	[13:19]
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chibaguy	I wonder what the problem is when css menu dropdowns stay dropped down (open), until I reload the page. this happens at a trunk installation updated by ftp (so some old redundant files are there too)	[13:27]
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chibaguy	I replaced css and jquery so far, and no improvement. mm, maybe it's fixed now....	[13:27]
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chibaguy	no, on some pages the menu (topbar css) gets stuck in the open position (everything dropped down).	[13:30]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22132 10/trunk/comments.php: [FIX]comments: the sort was not always set	[13:30]
chibaguy	but not consistently, and not so much now. maybe it just needed loosening up ;-)	[13:31]
luciash	chibaguy: it happened to me with JS off	[13:32]
chibaguy	maybe i have a js file that's broken. Also, something is strange about the Mollio theme at this site: when a page loads, all the topbar menu dropdowns drop down and stay down until the page finishes loading. I don't see that in other themes. Only the theme css is different.	[13:34]
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chibaguy	....something to try to find	[13:53]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22133 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: missing prefs	[13:56]
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sylvieg	Is there a way to put a registration box in a wiki page?	[14:14]
jonnyb	hi sylvie	[14:14]
sylvieg	hi	[14:14]
jonnyb	isn't there a plugin to put modules in pages? (in fact, didn't you write it?) :)	[14:15]
sylvieg	but registration is not a plugin or a module??	[14:15]
jonnyb	oh yes, of course... (i was thinking of the login module)	[14:16]
sylvieg	ah - there is a mod-register	[14:16]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22134 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]register: to have the module witht eh same behavior that tiki-register.php (ex: ask for groups)	[15:00]
c_schmitz	hi is there a way to NOT have the advances search enabled by default? *advanced since it is buggy	[15:05]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Info: Tiki turns 7 years old. Happy Birthday Tiki! - http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=75	[15:06]
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stripmind	marclaporte: first time we've been on again at the same time! you had asked if my WSOD problem was also duplicated when using {content id=#} rather than {rcontent id=#}. The answer is no. rcontent pretty reliably creates a WSOD though.	[15:14]
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marclaporte	stripmind: ok, I am not surprised did you report a bug? probably a remnant of major overhaul of plugins	[15:21]
stripmind	i can do that. glad to hear i'm not crazy.	[15:22]
marclaporte	I didn't say your weren't crazy :-)	[15:24]
stripmind	:)	[15:24]
marclaporte	if you have short content, perhaps you could use cookie feature	[15:24]
stripmind	I had text formatting in my dynamic content that woulnd't fit in cookies. for now I suppose I can use dates to rotate text.	[15:26]
marclaporte	did you try to look at code? if your error messages are activated (ex: via debug profile), do you see an error message with a line number? marclaporte just used duplicate tracker for the first time (amazing!!)	[15:35]
stripmind	i'm as green as they come when it comes to debugging. but willing to learn?	[15:39]
marclaporte	Happy birthday Tiki! http://info.tikiwiki.org/article75 stripmind: super! so 1st thing is to look at code and try to detect obvious errors	[15:43]
stripmind	i was going to try and replicate the problem at: http://demo.opensourcecms.com/tiki/tiki-login.php, but can't seem to login as admin saw the password as admin and as demo, neither seem to work.	[15:44]
marclaporte	lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rcontent.php open that file on your system do you see ?> at the end?	[15:45]
stripmind	sure	[15:49]
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chibaguy	Do people usually make menu section links (top-level link in a menu that has children) a link to something, not just href="#" (current page)? It's been irritating to me lately to have "#" links because I click on them and just get a page refresh. ;-) I noticed some of these on my sites and on tiki project sites. convenient/necessary in order to have the child links, but maybe it should always be a link with content itself, even if (logically) an intro page to whatever the children have in common. I think a usability expert would have something (not good) to say about a top link Try Me! (a href="#") with one child Demo (a href="demo page url"). :-)	[15:59]
marclaporte	stripmind: : remove it	[16:03]
stripmind	k	[16:03]
chibaguy	chibaguy has menus to reorganize	[16:04]
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marclaporte	stripmind: : did that help?	[16:22]
Kissaki	polom what does polom mean anyway? Is it the sound you do stumbling into the chan?	[16:31]
luciash	polom >whatis polom	[16:31]
Sug4r`	'polom' could be (#1) a geeky greeting in #tikiwiki channel, simmilar to hello ;), or (#2) a common greeting in #tikiwiki that is often mirrored for answering like 'moloq' or 'bolow' or answer whatever you feel like right now, or (#3) a greeting in #tikiwiki that was once used by someone and quickly stuck to become common culture of the community, or (#4) just some word of babytalk ;P	[16:31]
Kissaki	I'll stick with sumbling	[16:32]
luciash	chibaguy: i agree	[16:32]
Kissaki	marclaporte we're moving away from the deadline :P http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Database+independence from yesterday when I checked we already made several hours away from the deadline	[16:33]
luciash	deadlines are to be extended ;)	[16:34]
marclaporte	plausible promise is the key thing	[16:34]
jonnyb	"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." Douglas Adams	[16:35]
marclaporte	hahahahahahahahahahah	[16:35]
luciash	:D	[16:35]
Kissaki	:) whos that	[16:35]
luciash	damn, he doesn't know Douglas Adams ! >google "Douglas Adams"	[16:36]
Sug4r`	Error: Error connecting to Google.com.	[16:36]
luciash	oups	[16:37]
MacLeod	kissaki: Turn in your towel.	[16:37]
jonnyb	:D	[16:37]
Caarrie	!google douglas adams	[16:38]
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Kissaki	me	[16:43]
chealer	polom	[16:43]
Kissaki	I have a deadline for my report coming up as well... but wooosh would probably not be as fun or good...	[16:43]
chealer	profiles.tw.o seems down	[16:44]
Kissaki	yay!	[16:48]
marclaporte	server is overloaded if some people want to join me to try http://bigbluebutton.org/tryout	[16:57]
stripmind	marclaporte, unfortunately, rcontent still makes WSOD. Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiLib::get_random_content() in ...	[17:03]
marclaporte	at least, you have error message not WSOD :-)	[17:05]
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stripmind	true!	[17:05]
marclaporte	was this by removing the ?>	[17:05]
stripmind	no, this was enabling error messages. marclaporte: same error messages for the old and changed versions of wikiplugin_rcontent.php	[17:10]
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stripmind	interestingly, I noticed something else, when I accidentally misnamed wikiplugin_rcontent.php to wikiplugin_rcontentphp (no . before php) WSOD disappeared. rcontent seemed to randomize and display content. However- the error that seemed to be introduced in 3.0 was still present. Namely, the text formatting of the dynamic content was not correctly displaying, ie not parsing tiki text-formatting syn tax. errr... or something like that. does that make sense?	[17:15]
luciash	stripmind: oh, seems conflict between plugin {RCONTENT() /} and {rcontent} wiki syntax to me, because recently the syntax was made more universal and plugins can be called using lowercase {pluginname} syntax too actually, now plugins can be called as {PN(p1=>foo,p2=>bar)}{PN} or {PN(p1=foo p2=bar) /} or {pn p1=foo p2=bar} etc.	[17:23]
stripmind	Well, I'm getting the WSOD when I put {rcontent id=1} into an assigned module.	[17:26]
luciash	try to put it there as {wiki}{rcontent id=1}{/wiki} also do you have ticked the checkbox "parse content as wiki page" or is it not there ?	[17:27]
stripmind	luciash: same error message with {wiki}{rcontent id=1}{/wiki} in the assigned module - Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiLib::get_random_content() in /home/strip 'must be wiki parsed' is checked. removing the plugin seems to make it work tho!	[17:30]
luciash	good so far	[17:35]
stripmind	so, what's the function of the plugin? if rcontent is also wiki syntax? so far? what's next?	[17:37]
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stripmind	would this be considered a regression bug? for someone (like me) who upgrades and uses rcontent the way I was, they get WSOD without really knowing what's causing it.	[17:50]
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stripmind	well, in any case, {wiki}{rcontent id=1}{/wiki} now does what I wanted to do. thanks both marclaporte and luciash	[18:13]
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	hunh. I tried to submit this as a bug, but i can't see it to follow it. first bug report... http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2797	[18:32]
chealer	eh	[18:33]
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chealer	stripmind: I guess you made your point	[18:33]
stripmind	? hahah	[18:33]
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stripmind	do you mean it's parsing the code I quoted in the report to give the WSOD? that is funny. I'll resubmit hopefully in a way that makes it legible.	[18:35]
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chealer	stripmind: in all likelihood	[18:37]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22135 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] New toolbar dialog type tools. tikiwiki: First one: external link	[18:42]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22136 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] $modified['feature_perspective'] notice regression from r20241 tikiwiki: lphuberdeau: might want to check that's what you meant tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22137 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: tikiwiki: [ENH] New toolbar dialog type tools. tikiwiki: Second: table builder (v1)	[20:04]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22141 10/trunk/ (10 files in 6 dirs):	[20:44]
sylvieg	in the oldies ..the pagetitle was above - now it is in wiki text :-(	[20:56]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22142 10/trunk/tiki-all_languages.php: - Fixed a bug in tiki-all_languages, for when you follow an alias.	[20:58]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r22143 10/trunk/tiki-assignpermission.php: [MOD] Refactoring the showing of inherited perms to be more correct (to be able to take account of all including situations) - in preparation for next commit	[21:44]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r22144 10/trunk/tiki-assignpermission.php: tikiwiki: [MOD] If Anonymous is not automatically included in other groups unless tikiwiki: specified, in 4.0, then the showing/shading out of perms as "inherited from tikiwiki: Anonymous" should not happen automatically as well (otherwise it's not possible tikiwiki: to set them normally)	[21:52]
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chealer	luciash: ah, so value was a text field - great fix! it's useful to look at error messages too :)	[22:07]
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luciash	chealer: what ? :) you mean the pgsql problem with tiki_preferences field value+1 ?	[22:41]
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cheal	luciash: yeah	[22:43]
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chealer	luciash: did you find how to enable general log of queries with postgresql?	[22:44]
luciash	nope, i am focused on something else here now currently... i will come back to pgsql later again maybe sunday ?	[22:44]
chealer	luciash: no problem, I installed postgres now so it should be easier for me :) luciash: I may be there on sunday as well	[22:46]
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sylvieg	sylvieg is upset - comments are threaded but tracker comments do not use comment lib - so tracker comment are not htreaded -.. killl code duplication	[22:52]
chealer	luciash: oh, and the empty menu seems to be a new issue not specific to pgsql - tracking that	[22:54]
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Kissaki	pah	[23:00]
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Kissaki	and polom shitty Erfahrungsbericht abgesendet	[23:01]
luciash	sylvieg: aye chealer: ah, great, thanks for help	[23:01]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22145 10/trunk/lib/wiki/semanticlib.php: [FIX] more DB identifiers quoting	[23:01]
luciash	Kissaki: was scheise ?	[23:01]
Kissaki	^^ I sent shit via E-Mail great, eh?	[23:01]
luciash	ah, sended :) good it's over for now	[23:02]
Kissaki	oh shity, 1 already...l now I said enough shit for... this hour	[23:02]
sylvieg	btw guys good job on postgres / sorry I do not have enough time these days- I would like to help - but was lazy a couple of months - now needs to work - otherwise my husband will laugh at me when doing tax report	[23:03]
Kissaki	^^	[23:03]
sylvieg	sylvieg neds also to spend sometimes on ws	[23:04]
chealer	luciash: for the record, I did it with log_statement - it's not as nice as mysql's though	[23:08]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22146 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] New default jquery-ui theme (smoothness recommended)	[23:21]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22147 10/trunk/ (10 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] jQuery-ui dialog/accordion based wiki help tikiwiki: Several layout changes and improvements (flush temp_cache for full enjoyment) tikiwiki: Plugin help now a separate tpl (for future wysiwyg help)	[23:24]
marclaporte	tks jonnyb	[23:25]
jonnyb	jonnyb doesn't like checking in new code after midnight - awaits nervously...	[23:30]
marclaporte	marclaporte likes new resizable help	[23:32]
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dcedilotte	oops kiwicedille.info scratch that last comment, it was supposed to go in a private to Marc Laporte.	[23:36]
Kissaki	uuh, interna	[23:38]
marclaporte	hehe dcedilotte: : you are tying to use an old theme just swap to a new 3.x theme, like strassa.css	[23:39]
dcedilotte	marclaporte: k	[23:40]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22148 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] Width for table builder and title of dialogs	[23:40]
Kissaki	dcedilotte: go clean your apartment!	[23:40]
marclaporte	hahahahah	[23:41]
dcedilotte	kissaki: do I know you?	[23:41]
Kissaki	yeah, I helped moving your things in	[23:41]
dcedilotte	Kissaki: I doubt it.	[23:41]
Kissaki	we met when painting ceramics lol... no, you doubt right	[23:42]
marclaporte	dcedilotte : you saw annoucement for Tikifest MTL? Kissaki: you are invited too	[23:44]
Kissaki	:)	[23:45]
dcedilotte	marclaporte: yep. I don't know if I'll be able to make it in person but I'll try there virtually.	[23:45]
Kissaki	MTL = Montreal?	[23:45]
marclaporte	yes online, we will dogfood http://bigbluebutton.org/	[23:45]
chealer	marclaporte: where is Tikifest Toronto going to be?	[23:46]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22149 10/trunk/tiki-editpage.php: tikiwiki: - Do not insert preview when creating page based on a template. It confuses tikiwiki: users because they clicked on something for creating a page, yet all they see on tikiwiki: the screen is a read-only version of the page. They often don't realise that if tikiwiki: they scroll down, they can get to an edit box for modifying the template. I have tikiwiki: seen this many times when I taught workshops or gave demos on the terminology tikiwiki: profile.	[23:46]
marclaporte	chealer: Nov 1-5- http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFest chealer : are you thinking of coming? oh, you wrote "where" not sure yet. Nelson and Mike Pilling are investgating	[23:47]
chealer	marclaporte: thinking, yes	[23:48]
marclaporte	chealer : and MTL one? chealer : I hope you can come :-)	[23:48]
chealer	marclaporte: thinking also	[23:48]
marclaporte	no crutches this time :-)	[23:48]
chealer	marclaporte: OK. a friend propose his Ottawa house's garage. but it will start being cold in November	[23:49]
marclaporte	hehe In Ottawa, we can do at the Code Factory	[23:49]
chealer	marclaporte: yeah :) but I'm still not planning to go in bicycle. how do you plan to go to Toronto?	[23:49]
marclaporte	http://thecodefactory.ca/ I will be flying from Orlando	[23:50]
chealer	marclaporte: cool I see	[23:50]
marclaporte	We could bus/train you in But Quebec -> Toronto is quite a long bus ride	[23:51]
dcedilotte	marclaporte: Quebec -> Toronto would probably be better by train.	[23:52]
chealer	marclaporte: yeah...I've only been to Montreal alone, I don't know how it works farther	[23:53]
marclaporte	+1 to train	[23:54]

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