unable to login to doc.tw.o
oh, is it back ?
luciash: yes, but it took a while to get a page at first
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22802 10/trunk/ (26 files in 10 dirs): [KIL] Remove Workspace-Helper related files, as explained at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/14261 Hope it is completed and added to Tiki5 or Tiki4.1 Workspace withouth helper, are working fine
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22803 10/trunk/_htaccess: [KIL] Remove htaccess entries for removed features.
4 webcams on TikiFest live!
 New Forum Posts: Toggle menu item stopped working in 3.3 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35120
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22804 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] making the newly added minify feature be default off, until it's more vastly tested. Moving the other minify feature next to it, as a reminder than it may disappear in the future
I just loaded ur tiki and love it!  I have a ?  and can’t find an answer anywhere.  I loaded the collaborative community and want to change the ‘Our Community Log in learn and share’ heading.  My other ? is I can’t seem to find a page that has templates (I need one for the 50 states like on Wikimedia as my site deals with states and I don’t want a huge TOC).  Thanx for all ya’ll do!
ibrrorg: our profile expert will come online
thanx
here he is
hi iborrog: to answer your first question. In order to change the header and title of your website you can go to tiki-admin.php?page=general of your website. Or if you can navigate on the left hand menu. Scroll all the way down until you see Admin Home. Then click on the first Big Square that says General
my sitename is changed this is the words "Our Community Log in, Learn, Share"  it is under where I put my logo and appeared after I loaded the collaborative community profile.  I changed it in the areas provided, but it didn't end up changing it
ibrrorg, go to tiki-admin.php?page=look (Look and Feel admin page).
as for your second question. could you elaborate a bit more. I am not very familiar with mediaWiki templates. In Tiki I know our Content Templates don't mean the same thing
thanx!
ibrrorg, you mean you need a way to link to pages for the 50 states?
yeah see the normal TOC will occur when you start to add headings and can be removed by __NOTOC__  when you have a bunch of 'headings' you end up w/a huge TOC
yes
a template allows one to hyperlink the name of the state down the page to where it appears
How does the wikimedia template work (avoid the long list)?
i'll show the link in a second
thanks
btw thank you chibaguytoo, those variables are in Look and Feel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:TOC_US_states_2  see i took the coding/script or whatever and put it in a template and used it
ibrrorg: quick question, did you install the profile directly from the Tiki Installer. Or post installation?
i used my cpanel softolocous (sp?) program, run 3.1 tiki
i had to use the installer and enter in some db codes
Hm, the wikipedia page appears to be just a list of links, but displayed inline rather than vertically.
yeah it simply allows one to say have 50 states listed in horizontal lines and then link lower in the page to them  thats what i want to do
sorry to take up so much time
could be done in Tiki using the Include Plugin
no problem
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22805 10/trunk/doc/devtools/release.php: [DOC] doc link
ok ill go and read up on the stuff ya'll have cited to me and then touch base tomorrow  have a good one!
you can create a wiki page with the content that you wish to reuse in another. Then use the following plugin to insert that page. http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginInclude&structure=Documentation
glad to hear you enjoy the Profiles. We are acutally working hard on them now to make them even better.
if you have feedback please feel free to let us know :)
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tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r22806 10/trunk/lib/calendar/calendarlib.php: [FIX] query error with perspectives and clean up perspective deployment to calendar list
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22807 10/branches/4.x/tests/test_cvs_file.txt: test
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22808 10/trunk/lib/calendar/tikicalendarlib.php: [FIX] assigning value by reference
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22809 10/trunk/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] undefined editable, galleryId, description notices
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22810 10/trunk/templates/header.tpl: presumably fix broken logic on universaleditbutton.org button display check
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22811 10/branches/4.0/: [BRANCH] Creation, trunk 0 to 22810
So now what is the relationship between branch 4.0 and proposed branch?
changes for tiki 4.0 should be committed to proposed, and then the quality team commits them to branch 4.0?
chibaguy: I am not sure yet
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22812 10/branches/4.0/tests/test_cvs_file.txt: test
seems like now trunk is for tiki 5 commits, but maybe people shouldn't commit directly to branch 4.0; proposed should be in between as for 3.0.
so proposed needs to be the same as branch 4.0, to start with cleaning the branch for release.
(but the experts will know :-) )
chibaguy: right. but we can run branch 4 without approval for a while
ok
so commit changes (fixes, etc.) to branch 4.0? Then they will get backported to trunk?
chibaguy: or forward-ported. that's apparently what most people prefer
which means, commit the changes to trunk?
does that mean committing to trunk and also to branch 4?
yep, how would you do that without commiting ?
heh
I mean you do both commits yourself; there's no porting by quality team or anyone else.
is the 4.0 just for test ?
I guess marclaporte knows. I assumed it was the new branch.
yes... i mean it depends on developer who ports if he wants it released in 4 or later (it doesn't have to be dev who originally commits that to trunk)
ok
quality team can decide to reject
right
but doesn't have to approve
so....
well, that was my idea about it
there was a 4.x for testing
but merge from 4.x to trunk wasn't working
we want 4 too
for testing ;)
no, seriously, if 4 works me, sylvie and everybody would prefer that than 4.0
We assumed merge script was choking on branch name
but both 4.x and 4.0 are causing issues
is it the same ?
so it's unlikely the name makes a difference
ok, so lets go with 4.x and fix that later
luciash:  that is my feeling
perhaps name does make a difference, but script needs work anyway
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22813 10/branches/4.0/: [KIL] deleting test branch
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22814 10/branches/4.x/: [KIL] deleting test branch
wow, we got snow outside again this morning :-p
heh, daytime temperature here dropped from 20C to 15C and we're all shivering. Don't want to think about anything colder. :-)
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22815 10/branches/4.x/: [BRANCH] Creation, trunk 0 to 22810
I wonder if tikiwiki/PHPLENS_COM/ can be deleted (4 years old). Or should it be kept for some reason?
(in the svn repository)
never heard about it
ok, everyone
the countown is started
countdown
marclaporte: thank you
marclaporte: for managing it out ;)
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22816 10/branches/4.x/tests/testfile.txt: [TEST] test commit on 4x
tks luciash
1am here
so we close up Tikifest for today
7am here :-p
other timezones can take over
i will go to bed soon too i guess ;)
:-)
hm, 3:30pm here so could have a siesta, I guess. :-)
but probably should get some work done instead
*g*
over & out
bye
cya later
re
could someone go to http://www.doc.tikiwiki.org and explain me why it does not work properly
changi|work: because you use www. before doc.
we never used that before
you should put a redirect in .htaccess to disallow that and redirect every request to ^www.doc. to doc.
changi|work: does this explain it to you ?
hum ok luciash
www.doc.two is a Tiki4 vbersion of tiki
people who have a account on doc.two please test www.doc.tikiwiki.org
changi|work: some wiki syntax isn't parsed: on http://www.doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tiki3, {img}, {iframe} {remarksbox}, etc. syntax just displays instead.
Also, I wonder what happened to the "ui enhancement" tab of admin features. In particular, how to turn on CSS menus. I don't see it in other trunk installs either.
at www.doc.tw.o, L&F UL Effects has "Warning Requires jquery feature" warning box, but jquery is already on by default, right?
Superfish doesn't seem to be used, though it's turned on.
hi chibaguy - the ui tab on l&f is still there, just renamed i thought
hi jonnyb
oh i see - no menus checkboxes, yes - i had a struggle finding them last time!
aha! it's on admin/general/navigation
(they are navigation things, i guess!)
changi|work: btw, at at www.doc.tw.o, I turned on tabs and shadowbox, but they didn't become effective. I went back and found the boxes unchecked.
oh, yeah, jonnyb, I see them now.
changi|work: ah, ok :-p that was confusing to me 
i really wanted to add a thing to the admin search feature that tells you where to find the stuff next time... ah well, another thing for 4.1 i guess
polom luciash 
hi jonnyb 
Seems like Admin General Navigation Menus maybe should be on Admin Look and Feel
Same for Admin General Site Identity
(sort of thinking, the fewer things on Admin General, the better, if they have "Admin Specific" alternatives.
seems fair chibaguy (if you fancy doing it! ;0 )
Seems like other people might have a different opinion. I recall discussions about location of browser title admin, before.
did someone know how to activate the picture reflection effect ? 
changi|work:  it's activated already.
There's some problem with admin settings not being used.
(tabs, superfish, reflection, some wiki syntax tags...)
Maybe a problem with minified javascript?
i just enabled tiki_minify_javascript and reflection still works...
and supersuckers :)
mind you... the js isn't minified
at www.doc.tw.o?
no sorry - my local
ah, ok. mine is ok there too. but not at www.doc.tw.o.
comparing the page source, I saw <script type="text/javascript" src="temp/public/minified_b1c0f2e0fcf109785dd211b80acb240e.js"></script>
whereas I have a paragraph of js links instead, so just assumed.
still trying to catch up... i'll get there eventually :)
should i purge this folder "temp/public"? 
maybe so
doesn't change anything
I guess there's no admin interface yet for minimizing javascript?
I don't see where to turn on|off.
on admin performance, chibaguy 
thanks
ok, at www.doc.tw.o I turned off both Minify javascript and Use Minified Scripts, and now superfish, tabs, reflection (at least) work.
Turned them back on, and those things are still working.
So maybe js had to be minified again ?
I have no idea how the minifying is applied, etc.
But no sign of reflection or superfish when I check with srware iron (like google chrome).
and {img} tags still aren't parsed.
(or others)
(I was using Opera.)
i think the idea of the new minify thing is to do it on the fly, and cache the minified results (in temp/public i think)
but still haven't managed to read the new code
(svn merge fun for me today! :) )
js seems fairly messed up at www.doc.tw.o. The column hide|show links don't work. Superfish isn't working for Firefox, tho it is for Opera.
Pages load pretty fast though. ;-)
LOL
could be the minified thing
seems to be
but the img tags, etc. not being parsed may be something else.
well, are something else.
there's a huge improvement when minify is used, though, in terms of number of server requests and total transfer size.
so it'll be great when the bugs are ironed out.
huge improvement in speed?
yeah, just comparing roughly www.doc.tw.o with minify on, and my localhost trunk with minify off - looking with firebug.
great!
if we have on the fly minify, the old setting to minify may no longer be needed?
I image not, but am no expert.
polom marclaporte 
i'm fighting with the branch merge thing, but will gladly stop if someone else who understands it wants to have a go :)
hi Kimberlee!
hiya Marc. :)
branching & scripting kings they are
jonnyb : you are trying to fix merge from 4.x to trunk?
i just doid a manual merge and all it found was a load of stupid property stuff (not your test commit)
yup
the trouble is it takes 30 minutes to make each mistake!
question - besides setting the upload_max_filesize is there any files size limitations in the file gallery?
embeeded context ads on tw.o? !yuck!
ads?
i see embeeded links all over tw.o sites
odd... gone now...
i was seeing double underlined embeedd link ads 
hey lphuberdeau - you know about this svn merging thing
most of what there is to know
i'm getting loads of prop changes - the usual suspects (lib/test ones) - is there any way of getting rid of them?
at the moment my plan is to do an initial merge by hand from 4.x to trunk, as the script seems to be saying it can't do the first one
ah
there is one real difference in tests/testfile.txt, but i'm only getting the bogus property stuff
ricks99 : maybe your browser?
was it upgraded to handle the 4.x branch name? I suspect the regular expressions in there are fairly strict
i think my time would be better spent fixing bugs...
lphuberdeau : no
yes, i changed svn tools is_stable to suit
with 4.0 or 4.x, it would not work either way
r22638
but i suspect there's more to do!
I would just remove that stupid test folder on both sides
completely useless
great! kil kil kil!!!!
(except it looks like there has been lots of "work" in there)
kil kil?  I think I saw that movie.
:)
having stepped through the svnbranchupdadte script it looks like it really has to find something in find_last_merge() to work, is that right? (seems "odd")
i think i'll remove all the mergeinfo props from trunk - surely that shouldn't be in there? (just in the branches, right?)
lphuberdeau: at the moment i'm testing having replaced line 37 of svnbranchupdate.php from "error( "Could not find previous merge. Impossible to merge automatically." );" to $last=0; - does that sound like A Good Thing?
fresh install of branch 4x results in system error "Table '4xg.tiki_pages' doesn't exist The query was: select tp.* from `tiki_pages` as tp order by `pageName` desc" . Is this expected at this point? (database name is "4xg".)
those scripts don't use the svn merge props
they were written before svn added those
lphuberdeau: good - but they keep merging them back in (and out)
and because they are done client side, we can't rely on everyone having svn 1.5 anyway
chibaguy: i had a tiki_pages missing thing on trunk the other day - trying to remember why...
the script looks for the previous commit by matching the commit message
finding nothing is a problem
oh yes, i'd set the database to use ucs-8 encoding, instead of utf-8 (don't even know what usc is!)
lphuberdeau: finding nothing means it's the first merge, no?
The branching commit message has a specific format too
yes, spotted that
this was why i was going to fake one
the script just ran - doing $last=0 instead of error() - checking...
hmmm - it did nothing :(
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22817 10/trunk/ (lib/categories/categlib.php tiki-approve_staging_page.php): [MOD] Mozilla upstream. This is the integral file from mozilla. No significant changes were made on the tiki side since 1.10.
well, you can do it manually and just write the commit message as it should be
those scripts don't do magic
having a go at that (manually == every year!)
just avoid the tedious manual task of checking logs
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22818 10/trunk/tests/testfile.txt: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 0 to 22816
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22819 10/branches/4.x/tests/testfile.txt: [TEST] 2nd test commit after 1st merge
bbl
tiki_pages table wasn't created because " Column 'pageName' cannot be part of FULLTEXT index". I got 13 errors similar to this doing the fresh install of branch 4.
chibaguy: did you see my msg about the encoding? i think it got swamped in svn stuff
(previously) chibaguy: i had a tiki_pages missing thing on trunk the other day - trying to remember why... oh yes, i'd set the database to use ucs-8 encoding, instead of utf-8 (don't even know what usc is!)
oh ok. now I see.
so that sounds like it's a FULLTEXT thing of some sort
damn, I did the same thing.
ucs2_general_ci
:-)
i wonder what it is (apart from your bedtime! ;) )
hm, 3-letter acronym starting with u - must be the one. ;-)
or abbreviation
made a new table with the right encoding and this time no errors :-)
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22820 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]TRACKERFILTER: force to test on the upper value
er, i mean a new db.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22821 10/branches/4.x/ (52 files in 21 dirs): [SVN] Removing old mergeinfo props for cleaner merging in future
hello
is the merging problem fixed?
i hope so - just running it now
sign... it's doing all the props mergeinfo again :( obviously have to remove them from trunk (i think?)
sign=sigh
here goes...
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22822 10/trunk/ (55 files in 23 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 22816 to 22821
has anyone tried to combine the mod-translation & mod-switchlang? i'd like to be able to show all language options in a single module
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22823 10/branches/4.x/tests/testfile.txt: [TEST] 3rd test commit after 2nd (1st proper automatic) merge
In my localhost branch 4, minify javascript seems to work fine - superfish, column hide/show, etc. work normally.
oops. it's not minifying. Maybe due to being a wamp server, even though minify javascript is turned on, firebug shows the js scripts aren't minified.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22824 10/branches/4.x/lib/test/core/WikiParser/: [SVN] Removing old mergeinfo props for cleaner merging in future (missed one)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22825 10/trunk/ (. lib/test/core/WikiParser/ tests/testfile.txt): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 22821 to 22823
ah, I see a minified js does get made, but there are a lot of other .js files also - jquery, superfish, etc. That doesn't seem right.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22826 10/trunk/: [SVN] Added svn-commit.tmp to svn:ignore
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22827 10/branches/4.x/temp/public/: [SVN] Ignore minified script cache
ward22cat
oops wrong channel
:(
:) hi Rick
hi yonixxx
hope you are doing ok
yes, thanks. and u too
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22828 10/branches/4.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [bp/ r 22820][FIX]TRACKERFILTER: force to test on the upper value
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22829 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-editpage.tpl tiki-editpage.php): [ENH] Mozilla upstream. Suggest to change page title if it contains bad characters.
TikiFest day3, has started
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22830 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Add a switch to prevent the creation of pages containing bad characters.
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22831 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [MOD]lesser magic: radio prefs (todo: hide the child when switching)
jonnyb:
hi nkoth 
hi, yesterday i was testing out the category perms
and sometimes a "Remove button" appears
what does "Remove" mean?
remove should appear when there are some perms to remove
means delete really i suppose
delete?
so if I have assigned some, and I uncheck and assign again, it removes.
perms are rows in the user_xxxxperm tables - removing them means deleting those rows
yup
so why is there a need for a "Remove" button? (isn't assign enough?)
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22832 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [ENH] Change the message if the prevent switch is on
you don't have to click it :)
wow
in which table are kept the installer/schema that have been run?
tiki_schema or something i think sylvieg 
thx jonnyb
BigBlueButton has been rebooted. We are broadcasting with sound today
jonnyb: if I click remove, it's supposed to remove which perms? All?
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22833 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091103_upgrade_categperm_tiki.php: [FIX] officially move the categ perm upgrade script to the installer ... better than nothing
all perms on the current object
it doesn't (shouldn't) appear on global perms
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22834 10/branches/4.x/tests/upgrade_categperm.php: moved
In "Image Gallery" i can't find a way on TW3 to move an image from a gallery to another gallery... That looks trivial so i guess i miss something...
yay for Radio buttons in dynamic prefs!
hi yonixxx
Hi hi hi ! :D
sylvieg: : for your last commit, $tiki_p_admin check doesn't seem needed?
or Ay Ay Ay Chibaguy
at a url like tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=43, I get a dropdown selector "Move image:"
:-)
jonnyb: so "Remove Category Perms Set" might be a better label I think, but it's a mouthful
or maybe we can add that to the tooltip
yonixxx, do you see it? - down below the image in that table of image information.
lol chibaguy !!! If i browse an image, i have an option (as admin) to move it (the one you just point to me). If i edit an image... i don;t have that option.
i guess as small tuning should be good :D
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22835 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091103_upgrade_categperm_tiki.php: oops- no need to check perms in installer
ah
well, i believe the plan is to use file galleries also for images, and phase out image galleries. So you could check the procedure for moving files, there, maybe.
I have no idea how a php script must be writen for the isntaller
polom
 New Forum Posts: Tracking Content at a user level - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35123
ahah, doc.tw.o fixed
(logins)
Kimberlee: yes, see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/File+Gallery+Config&structure=Documentation (post_max_size)
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22836 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091103_upgrade_categperm_tiki.php: oops again - a php installer script is a php but a function
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22837 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Cleaning up misplaced hints.
lphuberdeau: : about "Unless a significant amount of preferences are documented and use dynamic preferences before the 4.0 release, this search feature will become disabled by default."  we did good progress, but I don't have a count (or an easy way to count).   What do you think we should do?
disable the search by defaults. All those descriptions are too poor to help searching
when there are descriptions at all
hello
I would have a question or two, relating to format tikiwikilinks
am I right in this chatroom?
Torsten_: yes, this is the right place.
cool
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22838 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Mozilla upstream. Allow to disable the reply title for forum threads.
I would like to format a wikilink, that opens in a new Tab, or a new Window of the browser
what is the syntax for that
hm, I don't know if that's possible with normal wiki links. But you could use the external link syntax, and set the preference to open external links in a new window.
set it in tiki or in the browser?
in tiki
where?
On tiki-admin.php?page=textarea, "Open external links in new window."
Then wiki links need to have the [http://www.example.com/Pagename|Pagename] format.
I don't know if shortening it to [Pagename] will work.
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22839 10/branches/4.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]admin group: pagination
But maybe even with the external link format, if the link isn't really external, maybe Tiki won't apply the open-in-new-window rule. You'll have to test it.
thx
An alternative would be to use html and use the target=_blank, I guess.
well, I just tested and [http://www.mysite.com/MyOtherPage|MyOtherPage] doesn't open in a new window even with its external link syntax, and pref set to open external links in a new window.
Can't fool Tiki, I guess.
hmm
any other option?
Do you want every link in your wiki to open in a new window?
not necessarily -> I need "not every link open in the same window"
would need it optional I guess
every link open in a new tab / window would be worse I guess
You can use the HTML plugin and then use standard HTML syntax to open in a new window, but would be extra trouble to input each time.
I use tiki for an intranet an would like sometimes to use headers as links itself and then I´d need "open in new tab"
would I have to upload / install the plugin (I have tiki 2.2 at the moment ... will probably get 3.2 in a while)
I don't know if the plugin will work in 2.2. probably not.
and ... I am a fool in html ... means I do not "speak" html ;-)
What would the situation with the plugin be in 3.2? 
I don't think there's a simple solution.
hm. But there would be a solution at all?
I could take it down to a lower priority, once I know some point, where to find the solution
In 3.2, you could put standard HTML link syntax inside an {HTML()} plugin.
perhabs I could give somebody the job to find it out, once the project went some further
Ah, that would be a plugin : {HTML()} ?
sylvieg:
yes
{HTML()}<a href=http://sitename.com\rdblquote   target="_blank">Link text here</a>{HTML}
changi|home : changi|work   how is doc.tw.o surviving Tiki4 upgrade?
tikiwiki: 03dexl_2000 * r22840 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [MOD] removed the profile selection and wording on the 5th installation process.
sylvieg: when you looked at sumo polls, did you see how tiki will support multiple polls per page?
once I know, there would not be an easy solution in 2.2, but it would be quite easy in 3.2, I would decide to wait for the 3.2
Yes it needed a rewritting to be generic - I did the specif - but did not go further
if lph or other wants my note...
Let me try that again: {HTML()}<a href="http://mysite.com/WikiPageName"  target="_blank">WikiPageName</a>{HTML}
sylvieg: so can I tell lph this is to be upstream and ask you for your note?
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22841 10/branches/4.x/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Make searching in admin panels an option, off by default and experimental. We made great progress here and will continue for Tiki5. http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences
yes - even if lph will probably redo the stuff ;-)
chibaguy: WARNING: No such module HTML! <a href=HomePage target="_blank">zurück nach Hause</a>
chibaguy: what might be the problem on that?
sylvieg: the result with upgrade categperms looks good - thank you
it is probable incomplete .. butbetter than nothing
Torsten_: Are you using Tiki 3?
Torsten_: HTML is a plugin, not a module
chibaguy: tiki 2.2
HTML plugin isn't available in tiki 2.2, only 3 and later
chealer: probably I didn´t yet understand what a tiki-plugin is at all ??
(IIRC)
ahh
chealer: chibaguy told me the reason
Torsten_: a plugin is an extension to "Wiki syntax"
another option is to turn on HTML generally, then you can use the HTML syntax to open in a new window.
Since you are using on an intranet, so a trusted environment.
chealer: like an extra code, but I would not install it? are those plugins included out of the box? or can I extend the number of plugins?
chi
chibaguy: am on that right now
Torsten_: plugins are included, not necessarily enabled. you can create new plugins.
sorry, I have to go now (3am here).
chealer: aha ... but creation might be some step further ... I am a beginner ;-)
chibaguy: thx very much for your help
sure, see you later.
chealer: you helped me aswell, thx - have to go now by myself
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22842 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [MOD] duplicating Dynamic Content checkbox to main feature admin panel, because people also tend to think it will be here.
Torsten_: it's a pleasure if that helped
by chealer 
bye
;-)
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Version+lifecycle -> please read
tikiwiki: 03dexl_2000 * r22843 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [MOD] accept only mysql databases in database selection on 4th installation process.
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22844 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Add pagination to limit the amount of records displayed and loading time.
tikiwiki: 03nagendra016 * r22845 10/trunk/db/ (5 files): [FIX]Broken Kaltura upload link on clean install
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22846 10/branches/4.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]TRACKERLIST: new param showpagination
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22847 10/trunk/ (14 files in 9 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 22823 to 22846
sylvieg: is the new param meant as option for the max param ?
to display or not the pagination when using max limit ?
sylvieg or anyone: if people fix things in trunk (by accident), can that be backported to 4x without risk? Or it will be double commited from 4.x to trunk again?
ex.: r22846
oups
r22845 /trunk/db/ (5 files): [FIX]Broken Kaltura upload link on clean install
marclaporte: it should be ok - svn's not _that_ bad!
i was chatting with nagendra earlier but he gone now
ok
at worst it'll be a phantom conflict
sounds fun
oh yes, they're fantastic!!
mind you, after the past few days rebuilding alcns.net i'm looking forward to some tiki
i'll do r 22845
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22848 10/branches/4.x/db/ (4 files): 
tikiwiki: [bp / r22845] [FIX]Broken Kaltura upload link on clean install
tikiwiki: (and convertsqls)
jonny for a backporter ! ;)
hey, i got the GSoC t-shirt, so seems fair!
and google wave invitation ;)
yes but i think i lost it... too many mails from that list
i see
only régis catched it ;)
lphuberdeau: ah, congrats :) so i suppose you're in touch already with régis there
yeah, we planned a pub crawl for jonny in there
think it might be a bit cold for t-shirts?
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22849 10/branches/4.x/ (5 files in 5 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [KIL] Remove experimental static minified JS files and references
tikiwiki: (also $Id property and (c) notice added)
I am attempting to configure the Maps.  The config page asks me to enter files that I don’t understand such as full path to mapfiles, default mapfile, full path to gdaltindex and ull path to ogr2ogr.  I have the google maps setup and the Maps folder on my server only has an index.php.  Where can I read what files to add/create and then where can I read on how to start deploying the maps in a page?  Thanx!
this is the doc page for configs:  http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Maps+Config
iirc Map feature doesn't use Google Maps but requires own map server installation
try to use Google Maps feature instead (if any)
is there a page that will show me how to deploy a map in a page?  right now when i click the usermap in the toolbar there's no way to create an independent area so to speak---i geuss i'm asking what is the 'code/script' i type in to display the map in a page
i am a hobo (freight hopper here in the States and maps are critical.  would it be worth my while to attempt to instal the map server  i.e.; is it good open source (no api trademarks, etc) to mess with and document hybrid type of stuff?
all TikiFesters: http://tikiwiki.org/Viral+TikiWiki
>doctwo Gmap+Admin
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Gmap+Admin
ibrrorg: ^
linking now
i've done all that; let me rephrase:  how do I now make a goolge map of my choice appear in a page---is there a doc on this?  thanx, in advance, for taking time to help me!
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22850 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20090921_workspaces_tiki.sql: [FIX] Restore installer upgrade script for workspace helper. A new patch should be made to delete or modify any data or schema.
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22851 10/branches/4.x/tiki-plugins.php: notice
nkoth: see the chat in bbb
how do i get there?
GillesM: : time to remove Multimedia feature!
marclaporte: WYSIWYG_Wiki is not quite perfect yet. I've migrated a lot of content into the wiki using the regular wiki, but sometimes when I edit a page with wysiwyg, it takes away the line breaks.
marclaporte: is this something you've come across? and do you know if there are any large users of tikiwiki that use wysiwyg for their wiki?
oys : council of Europe
marclaporte: that's great news. are they using 3, 4, or the coe-branch?
I'd love to read/learn more about their setup.
oys: i think line breaks are largely affected by what you have set on Admin → Wiki for Wiki paragraph formatting
oys: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/CoE
+ use htmlpurifier
oys: you have their nicks so I suggest to try to catch them when they come online :-)
will do. I'm really happy with everything except these minor issues that I understand are not that minor to correct (referring to the wiki-syntax/html dilemma)
oys: do you follow devel mailing list?
oys : we are using Tiki3
marclaporte: I must admit, I did not. I will now though.
oys : http://old.nabble.com/Text-area-helpers%2C-Wiki-Syntax-and-WYSIWYG-and-the-strategic-%09importance-for-TikiWiki-to25860720.html
changi|work: are your users mostly using WYSIWYG for editing wiki entries? and are you experiencing any issues with e.g. linebreaks? Also, what settings/profile are you using for wysiwyg?
changi|work: it would be really interesting to read more about your setup. maybe a sort of "customer testimonial" :)
oys: personally i don't use WYSIWYG, but nyloth and pkdille could certainly answer this
oys: i am using wysiwyg only when testing
marclaporte: I'd come across that post earlier. I fall in the "you are not convinced yourself" category, though I'm leaning more and more towards educating users. at first glance it seems like there should be a simple solution, but I've understood that the devil is in the details :/
there are recent messages on that thread
oys : if someone can find one single stable implementation...
Perhaps part of the solution is to lock some pages to WYSIWYG
finished reating through the thread now. I am dealing with very non-technical users many for whom the concept of a wiki in itself is new. Even creating internal links with (()) is new. So far, only a small team of a handfull of people have been using the regular wiki-syntax editor. i was hoping to figure out how to painlessly switch to wysiwyg, but if that won't happen in a while, it will be interestning to see how users will react.
my fear is that they will renounce it without really giving it a try because it is not as "easy" to use as word :/
oys: I have an idea
Hello everyone. This is my first day at the community.
Who can welcome me?
macnific: welcome :)
After succeed Tikiwiki installation.
Well. we are creating a barter community and tikiwiki will help a lot
oys : tell me what you think: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish2842
I have read myself all the "open organization" principles that goes in the same direction of my thinking
welcome macnific
thanks marcla, thanks luciash
I also reformed the PT-BR translation. And I will put available to the community.
macnific: Did you read http://tikiwiki.org/Model ?
marclaporte: great.. Java is really good. We have also installed Cyclos in our community and it is java based.
marclaporte: good page. I have no doubt about tiki. I made a long comparision inside wikimatrix.org
Sure I will be here giving feedback for the dev team.
however the point here now is more concerning the principles.
I saw the video of TikiFest in spain. Great.
macnific: Java ?
macnific: we are PHP, mostly
But I would like to know if Tikiwiki needed to officialize itself as an institution. Or does it exist only virtually inside net?
luciash: I know tikiwiki is PHP. I was answering concerning the page from marclaporte.
we needed to officialize just recently to have some bank account legal wire
ah, the Model ?
ok
yes...
Ok, let me show you something
www.troquei.com
this is the community I have created since I got back to my country, Brazil.
ohh no mine, really, anyway...
here is the animation I did: http://web.mac.com/pedrobarbosa/troquei/Splash.html
and here the Tikiwiki : http://wiki.troquei.com/tikiwiki33/
I am at configuration moment.
and preparing the wiki pages
and your pages has been an inspiration for me. Mainly the dogfood and Do-ocracry terms. hehe
cool
Now the point is... how to transfer this great community philosophy (focused in development) to do something similar, but turned to human beings.
that is the point I would like to have someone sharing thoughts.
You all certainly have seem barter communities such as Lets, etc.
What do you think about it?
we're all human beings here (except some few bots ;))
hahaha, bots has helped sometimes more than some other people I know. ahaha
;D
sure
The wiki way, applied to community development
Sug4r: what do you think ?
Maybe...
well. I would like to know how have Tikiwiki community deal with taxs, governament, etc.
Did your team created chart as a company?
Does it has an official office?
or just a server as address? hhehee
those are the questions we are asking ourselves over here.
http://tikiwiki.org/Tiki+Software+Community+Association
Do we need to exist officially to be together?
ohhh no. There is membership
well, we evolved without it
this is really just a necessity to handle donations and stuff around that
luciash: did you see zeitgeist?
nope
jonnyb|feeding: around: how far sortable is implemented in the table?
marclaporte: thanks a lot. checking
nkoth: i will have a look
My God. I found my tribe I believe. hehe
amd http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Exchange_Market
nkoth: the BBB frozen for me
here: thezeitgeistmovie.com
www.thezeitgeistmovie.com
hi syvieg
www.thezeitgeistmovement.com
macnific: ok, it's enough, i have no time to watch it now anyway ;)
oys: do you think http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish2842 could do the job?
I was not intending to give more than that. Luciash
I think BBB is down - letting fred know
jonnyb: I tried {FANCYTABLE(headclass=sortable) } .. suppose I am missiing some points
sortables sort of workes - messes up the odd/even thing though
sylvieg: welcome onboard ;)
I am a slow leaner
nkoth: can you repaste here ?
I am not in a rush to change the word, I also do not have time to be with those who want to stop the change. ;)
never been aboard
is there a place where sortable works? I can give a try to fix the rest
luci :http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php does not work
Thank everybody, I will be around helping on what I can. 
but http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php?page=testcomment does
jonnyb: oh, you mean you never liked jq ?
there are 2 or 3 admin tables that use them - i'd have to check
okmI saw them...
luciash: fancytables, i mean
luci: http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php?page=testcomment also does not work
I mean http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php?page=testcomment2
jonnyb - I simply watnt o put sortable in fancytable ;-)
luci: page too long? css?
does it generate a tbody tag? (and thead)
jonnyb: hehe, i was reacting on sylvies quote "sylvieg begins to like jq"
marclaporte: Thanks for existing.
:)
hehe good point konnyb
oops jonnyb
1 min, changing computers
is there an irc command to get the last few minutes of chat?
http://irc.tikiwiki.org/
thx sylvieg - so not inside the irc client then - just wondering
nkoth: i suspect the minified js
nkoth: there seem to be no link to tiki.js
tiki-js.js?
marclaporte: about wish2842. It might work, but I am afraid non-technical users would still see it as buggy (since their reference is a word processor). I got carried away reading about how twiki is approaching the problem : http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/WysiwygPlugin#How_it_works
nkoth: and PHP error on the page
nkoth: yes
we exactly need people to do this type of research
nkoth: can you try to switch the minified off ?
luciash: ok, one sec
nkoth: js console says it
marclaporte: I saw that on in your post. I've been giving this quite some thought, but I don't yet have a good enough understandning about the issue to make myself usefull just yet.
oys: in your research: http://tikiwiki.org/Wiki+Landscape
nkoth: SyntaxError: Parse error → minified_f494d67819d3ef3da8f63e52a3216b85.js (line 258)SyntaxError: Parse error
oys: you don't need to understand how they do it. Just validate that it works well.
luciash: turned off minify js
luciash: did it fix it for you?
yes
let me turn it on again
but still there's unmatched tag generated (span)
I think I would be happy with a very simple wysiwyg editor that just handles simple stuff like bold, italic, and headings (and maybe tables)
oys: you can configure the toolbars icons now
the slippery slope!
links and functions like toc don't need to be wysiwyg because they are more advanced features. but telling people that _ means bold will be too much
luciash: ok, that reproduced problem...hmm, i wonder if minify has a cache
oys: at least in Tiki trunk
nkoth: yes, it has
nkoth: ctrl + U and you will see the reference
luciash: I know, and I've been doing this based on the various wysiwyg profiles. currently my only problem is changing between the two ways of editing breaks line-breaks
oys: have you tried the Wiki Paragraph Formating and HTML purifier as sylvie suggested ?
oys: there is a setting for taht - /me never remember which one
sylvieg: imho TRACKER and TRACKERLIST needs approval
ok for me - even if I think it is pretty tuff...
luciash: how you get that js error? my firebug report no error
well, without it any user with tiki_p_edit can query registration user data from a tracker
marclaporte: I knew transitionner.org. I see everything start to converge to the same point. 
nkoth: top menu → Tools → Error Console
nkoth: i was looking with Arora Web Inspector though
is anyone working on file galleries for 4.x these days?
mlpvolt: not me
oys: Did you play with admin->textarea: tikiparagraph formatting and but still create a breaks within parag
mlpvolt: I am working around
BBB seems to be broken for me currently still
luciash: i don't know enough about minify to know why it might break that page but not http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php?page=testcomment
sylvieg : can I delete this file? http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/db/fulltext.sql?revision=13490&view=markup
nkoth: no idea, maybe because of the PHP error reporting ?
and this? http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/db/case_patch.php?revision=19138&view=markup
nkoth: try to switch that off too
luciash: ok
hi sylvie, i've been doing some followup to work we did on filegalleries before, i've been testing and documenting ((doc:multimedia))
luciash : fixed width is not working for me: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/4x/tiki-index.php
will ping you later with some ideas. 
marclaporte: you have shadow layers on ?
oys: I juste tested with wysiwyg - i did not add br - so it is probably a setting
luciash: : will try
sylvieg: there are so many settings in so many places so I don't blame you. customization is a good thing, but the more there is, the more to learn. thank you for all of your input. I will play around with various settings (again) and see how far I get.
tiki-admin.php?page=look -> shadow layer options are scary. All these boxes, I dunno what to answer
oys: admin ->editing Wiki paragraph formatting and but still create line breaks within paragraphs. are on
luciash: fixed width is working when feature_layoutshadows is to y.  But why do I need to do this?
marclaporte: blame microsoft ;)
it needs extra div to make it work across browsers (including you know which one)
why not always have on? (clutter?)
sylvieg/marclaporte: I reproduce the error consistently: saving something with regular editor and then opening in wysiwyg with wysiwyg_wiki profile on a clean install removes all line-breaks.
yes, some people don't need those extra wrapping divs... maybe it could be done better, maybe using jquery but i tried hard to make it work with every browser for ones and not to break anything for the others
marclaporte: maybe for Tiki 4.1
you can put it on by default though
or Tiki5 :-)
for installs
and if people don't need it, they can switch it off
wouldn't hurt i guess
I am trying to find a way to have non-super-large page on fresh installs
you can put a note next to it that it is needed by fixed option for theme
oys: do you have wiki paragraph formatting on?
using strasa-fixed instead of thenews.css
we are changing location shortly
jonnyb|mobile: yup. the only things I've changed are what's configured by this profile: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=WYSIWYG_Wiki
sure, maybe it's time to change theme for major release
default theme
that's what it does - i was going to fix it but apparently that's the desired behaviour
what is the default theme in t4?
sylvieg: currently still thenews for barebones profile
sylvieg : still thenews.css but I would prefer to change if another is nice/stable enough
strasa is nice but quite buggy on IE
tikiwiki: 03dexl_2000 * r22852 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-change_password.tpl: [MOD] adding instant password check on change-password page, just basic functions at the moment. Future addon can be returnning of user name via js on GO BACK button, and tiki submit limit.
marclaporte: still ?
also, ((links)) sometimes get garbled to [tiki-index.php?page=links|links], but this I can live with (for now)
oys: ((links)) get duplicated here after preview in wysiwyg
or somehow "duplicated", to be more precise
sylvieg: to be clear: when you test wysiwyg, are you able to save something with the regular editor and then open it with wysiwyg and retain linebreaks?
luciash : yup
oys: yes
just the setting are not friendly..
I've now  played with both wiki_paragraph_formatting settings with no luck
sylvieg: are you using a profile or did you set it up manually? either way: how did you do it :)
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22853 10/branches/4.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Changing the first impressions after a fresh install. using Strasa-fixed. This is up for debate. What do you think?
luciash : can you review my latest commit?
We are moving to new place
marclaporte: the king of prefs setting - jquery is on by default now but {JG()} is not
sorry {JQ()}
who needs?
people will put jquery in wiki pages?
I am trying to have FANCYTABLE using tablesort
... ok I can figure it out
bbl
good work everyone!
Tiki4 is looking fabulous
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22854 10/branches/4.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: missing prefs
sylvieg: do you have time to pastebin output from  select * from tiki_preferences;? I'd like to compare my settings to figure out what my issue is.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22855 10/branches/4.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Several annoyances in dialog tools
tikiwiki: Button label for replace/submit/insert tidied up
tikiwiki: Handles plugins without closing tag
tikiwiki: Close button JS error fix
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22856 10/branches/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_flash.php: [MOD] Helpful description text