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Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Toggle menu item stopped working in 3.3 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35120 ***: kiilo1 has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22804 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] making the newly added minify feature be default off, until it's more vastly tested. Moving the other minify feature next to it, as a reminder than it may disappear in the future ***: ibrrorg has joined #tikiwiki ibrrorg: I just loaded ur tiki and love it! I have a ? and can’t find an answer anywhere. I loaded the collaborative community and want to change the ‘Our Community Log in learn and share’ heading. My other ? is I can’t seem to find a page that has templates (I need one for the 50 states like on Wikimedia as my site deals with states and I don’t want a huge TOC). Thanx for all ya’ll do! marclaporte: <u>ibrrorg</u>: our profile expert will come online ibrrorg: thanx ***: pascalstjean has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: here he is ***: Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki <br> chibaguytoo has joined #tikiwiki pascalstjean: hi iborrog: to answer your first question. In order to change the header and title of your website you can go to tiki-admin.php?page=general of your website. Or if you can navigate on the left hand menu. Scroll all the way down until you see Admin Home. Then click on the first Big Square that says General ibrrorg: my sitename is changed this is the words "Our Community Log in, Learn, Share" it is under where I put my logo and appeared after I loaded the collaborative community profile. I changed it in the areas provided, but it didn't end up changing it chibaguytoo: ibrrorg, go to tiki-admin.php?page=look (Look and Feel admin page). pascalstjean: as for your second question. could you elaborate a bit more. I am not very familiar with mediaWiki templates. In Tiki I know our Content Templates don't mean the same thing ibrrorg: thanx! chibaguytoo: ibrrorg, you mean you need a way to link to pages for the 50 states? ibrrorg: yeah see the normal TOC will occur when you start to add headings and can be removed by __NOTOC__ when you have a bunch of 'headings' you end up w/a huge TOC <br> yes <br> a template allows one to hyperlink the name of the state down the page to where it appears chibaguytoo: How does the wikimedia template work (avoid the long list)? ibrrorg: i'll show the link in a second pascalstjean: thanks <br> btw thank you chibaguytoo, those variables are in Look and Feel ibrrorg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:TOC_US_states_2 see i took the coding/script or whatever and put it in a template and used it pascalstjean: <u>ibrrorg</u>: quick question, did you install the profile directly from the Tiki Installer. Or post installation? ibrrorg: i used my cpanel softolocous (sp?) program, run 3.1 tiki <br> i had to use the installer and enter in some db codes ***: chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) chibaguytoo: Hm, the wikipedia page appears to be just a list of links, but displayed inline rather than vertically. ***: chibaguytoo is now known as chibaguy <br> ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy ibrrorg: yeah it simply allows one to say have 50 states listed in horizontal lines and then link lower in the page to them thats what i want to do <br> sorry to take up so much time pascalstjean: could be done in Tiki using the Include Plugin chibaguy: no problem CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22805 10/trunk/doc/devtools/release.php: [DOC] doc link ibrrorg: ok ill go and read up on the stuff ya'll have cited to me and then touch base tomorrow have a good one! pascalstjean: you can create a wiki page with the content that you wish to reuse in another. Then use the following plugin to insert that page. http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginInclude&structure=Documentation ***: ibrrorg has quit IRC ("Page closed") pascalstjean: glad to hear you enjoy the Profiles. We are acutally working hard on them now to make them even better. <br> if you have feedback please feel free to let us know :) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Tiki with Joomla - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=35121 CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r22806 10/trunk/lib/calendar/calendarlib.php: [FIX] query error with perspectives and clean up perspective deployment to calendar list ***: chibaguy is now known as chibadogwalking <br> shawnadler has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") <br> Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22807 10/branches/4.x/tests/test_cvs_file.txt: test ***: chibadogwalking is now known as chibaguy <br> btiffin has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22808 10/trunk/lib/calendar/tikicalendarlib.php: [FIX] assigning value by reference <br> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22809 10/trunk/templates/header.tpl: [FIX] undefined editable, galleryId, description notices <br> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22810 10/trunk/templates/header.tpl: presumably fix broken logic on universaleditbutton.org button display check ***: SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") <br> btiffin has joined #tikiwiki CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22811 10/branches/4.0/: [BRANCH] Creation, trunk 0 to 22810 chibaguy: So now what is the relationship between branch 4.0 and proposed branch? <br> changes for tiki 4.0 should be committed to proposed, and then the quality team commits them to branch 4.0? marclaporte: <u>chibaguy</u>: I am not sure yet CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22812 10/branches/4.0/tests/test_cvs_file.txt: test chibaguy: seems like now trunk is for tiki 5 commits, but maybe people shouldn't commit directly to branch 4.0; proposed should be in between as for 3.0. <br> so proposed needs to be the same as branch 4.0, to start with cleaning the branch for release. <br> (but the experts will know :-) ) ***: nkoth has left chealer: <u>chibaguy</u>: right. but we can run branch 4 without approval for a while chibaguy: ok <br> so commit changes (fixes, etc.) to branch 4.0? Then they will get backported to trunk? chealer: <u>chibaguy</u>: or forward-ported. that's apparently what most people prefer chibaguy: which means, commit the changes to trunk? -: luciash will continue commit to trunk and backport fixes to branch4 chibaguy: does that mean committing to trunk and also to branch 4? luciash: yep, how would you do that without commiting ? chibaguy: heh <br> I mean you do both commits yourself; there's no porting by quality team or anyone else. luciash: is the 4.0 just for test ? ***: mlpvolt has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: I guess marclaporte knows. I assumed it was the new branch. ***: pascalstjean has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") luciash: yes... i mean it depends on developer who ports if he wants it released in 4 or later (it doesn't have to be dev who originally commits that to trunk) chibaguy: ok luciash: quality team can decide to reject chibaguy: right luciash: but doesn't have to approve marclaporte: so.... luciash: well, that was my idea about it marclaporte: there was a 4.x for testing <br> but merge from 4.x to trunk wasn't working luciash: we want 4 too <br> for testing ;) ***: rolandtanglao has joined #tikiwiki luciash: no, seriously, if 4 works me, sylvie and everybody would prefer that than 4.0 marclaporte: We assumed merge script was choking on branch name <br> but both 4.x and 4.0 are causing issues luciash: is it the same ? marclaporte: so it's unlikely the name makes a difference luciash: ok, so lets go with 4.x and fix that later marclaporte: <u>luciash</u>: that is my feeling <br> perhaps name does make a difference, but script needs work anyway CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22813 10/branches/4.0/: [KIL] deleting test branch <br> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22814 10/branches/4.x/: [KIL] deleting test branch luciash: wow, we got snow outside again this morning :-p chibaguy: heh, daytime temperature here dropped from 20C to 15C and we're all shivering. Don't want to think about anything colder. :-) CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22815 10/branches/4.x/: [BRANCH] Creation, trunk 0 to 22810 chibaguy: I wonder if tikiwiki/PHPLENS_COM/ can be deleted (4 years old). Or should it be kept for some reason? <br> (in the svn repository) ***: Kimberlee has quit IRC () luciash: never heard about it ***: chealer has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) marclaporte: ok, everyone <br> the countown is started <br> countdown luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: thank you <br> <u>marclaporte</u>: for managing it out ;) CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22816 10/branches/4.x/tests/testfile.txt: [TEST] test commit on 4x marclaporte: tks luciash <br> 1am here <br> so we close up Tikifest for today luciash: 7am here :-p marclaporte: other timezones can take over luciash: i will go to bed soon too i guess ;) marclaporte: :-) chibaguy: hm, 3:30pm here so could have a siesta, I guess. :-) <br> but probably should get some work done instead luciash: *g* marclaporte: over & out luciash: bye -: luciash too chibaguy: cya later ***: marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) <br> btiffin has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) <br> rolandtanglao has quit IRC () <br> changi|home has left <br> mlpvolt has quit IRC ("Page closed") <br> dthacker has quit IRC (No route to host) <br> dthacker has joined #tikiwiki <br> Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) <br> coaboa has joined #tikiwiki <br> lorinc has joined #tikiwiki <br> coaboa_ has joined #tikiwiki <br> kiilo has joined #tikiwiki <br> Beestje has joined #tikiwiki <br> changi|home has joined #tikiwiki <br> changi|home has quit IRC (Client Quit) <br> coaboa has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <br> changi has joined #tikiwiki luciash: re ***: changi is now known as changi|work changi|work: could someone go to http://www.doc.tikiwiki.org and explain me why it does not work properly luciash: changi|work: because you use www. before doc. <br> we never used that before <br> you should put a redirect in .htaccess to disallow that and redirect every request to ^www.doc. to doc. <br> changi|work: does this explain it to you ? ***: rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki <br> kiilo has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <br> rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Client Quit) changi|work: hum ok luciash <br> www.doc.two is a Tiki4 vbersion of tiki ***: kiilo has joined #tikiwiki changi|work: people who have a account on doc.two please test www.doc.tikiwiki.org ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: changi|work: some wiki syntax isn't parsed: on http://www.doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tiki3, {img}, {iframe} {remarksbox}, etc. syntax just displays instead. <br> Also, I wonder what happened to the "ui enhancement" tab of admin features. In particular, how to turn on CSS menus. I don't see it in other trunk installs either. <br> at www.doc.tw.o, L&F UL Effects has "Warning Requires jquery feature" warning box, but jquery is already on by default, right? <br> Superfish doesn't seem to be used, though it's turned on. jonnyb: hi chibaguy - the ui tab on l&f is still there, just renamed i thought chibaguy: hi jonnyb jonnyb: oh i see - no menus checkboxes, yes - i had a struggle finding them last time! <br> aha! it's on admin/general/navigation <br> (they are navigation things, i guess!) chibaguy: changi|work: btw, at at www.doc.tw.o, I turned on tabs and shadowbox, but they didn't become effective. I went back and found the boxes unchecked. <br> oh, yeah, jonnyb, I see them now. luciash: changi|work: ah, ok :-p that was confusing to me jonnyb: i really wanted to add a thing to the admin search feature that tells you where to find the stuff next time... ah well, another thing for 4.1 i guess <br> polom luciash luciash: hi jonnyb chibaguy: Seems like Admin General Navigation Menus maybe should be on Admin Look and Feel <br> Same for Admin General Site Identity <br> (sort of thinking, the fewer things on Admin General, the better, if they have "Admin Specific" alternatives. jonnyb: seems fair chibaguy (if you fancy doing it! ;0 ) chibaguy: Seems like other people might have a different opinion. I recall discussions about location of browser title admin, before. changi|work: did someone know how to activate the picture reflection effect ? chibaguy: changi|work: it's activated already. <br> There's some problem with admin settings not being used. <br> (tabs, superfish, reflection, some wiki syntax tags...) <br> Maybe a problem with minified javascript? jonnyb: i just enabled tiki_minify_javascript and reflection still works... <br> and supersuckers :) <br> mind you... the js isn't minified ***: kiilo1 has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: at www.doc.tw.o? jonnyb: no sorry - my local chibaguy: ah, ok. mine is ok there too. but not at www.doc.tw.o. <br> comparing the page source, I saw <script type="text/javascript" src="temp/public/minified_b1c0f2e0fcf109785dd211b80acb240e.js"></script> <br> whereas I have a paragraph of js links instead, so just assumed. jonnyb: still trying to catch up... i'll get there eventually :) changi|work: should i purge this folder "temp/public"? chibaguy: maybe so changi|work: doesn't change anything ***: Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie <br> kiilo has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <br> rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: I guess there's no admin interface yet for minimizing javascript? <br> I don't see where to turn on|off. ***: ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: on admin performance, chibaguy chibaguy: thanks <br> ok, at www.doc.tw.o I turned off both Minify javascript and Use Minified Scripts, and now superfish, tabs, reflection (at least) work. <br> Turned them back on, and those things are still working. <br> So maybe js had to be minified again ? <br> I have no idea how the minifying is applied, etc. <br> But no sign of reflection or superfish when I check with srware iron (like google chrome). <br> and {img} tags still aren't parsed. <br> (or others) <br> (I was using Opera.) jonnyb: i think the idea of the new minify thing is to do it on the fly, and cache the minified results (in temp/public i think) <br> but still haven't managed to read the new code <br> (svn merge fun for me today! :) ) ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki <br> ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte <br> RavenC has joined #tikiwiki <br> RavenC has left chibaguy: js seems fairly messed up at www.doc.tw.o. The column hide|show links don't work. Superfish isn't working for Firefox, tho it is for Opera. <br> Pages load pretty fast though. ;-) marclaporte: LOL <br> could be the minified thing chibaguy: seems to be <br> but the img tags, etc. not being parsed may be something else. <br> well, are something else. <br> there's a huge improvement when minify is used, though, in terms of number of server requests and total transfer size. <br> so it'll be great when the bugs are ironed out. marclaporte: huge improvement in speed? chibaguy: yeah, just comparing roughly www.doc.tw.o with minify on, and my localhost trunk with minify off - looking with firebug. marclaporte: great! <br> if we have on the fly minify, the old setting to minify may no longer be needed? chibaguy: I image not, but am no expert. jonnyb: polom marclaporte <br> i'm fighting with the branch merge thing, but will gladly stop if someone else who understands it wants to have a go :) ***: Kimberlee has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: hi Kimberlee! -: marclaporte misses Nyloth & mose Kimberlee: hiya Marc. :) marclaporte: branching & scripting kings they are <br> jonnyb : you are trying to fix merge from 4.x to trunk? jonnyb: i just doid a manual merge and all it found was a load of stupid property stuff (not your test commit) <br> yup <br> the trouble is it takes 30 minutes to make each mistake! Kimberlee: question - besides setting the upload_max_filesize is there any files size limitations in the file gallery? ricks99: embeeded context ads on tw.o? !yuck! ***: lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: ads? ricks99: i see embeeded links all over tw.o sites <br> odd... gone now... <br> i was seeing double underlined embeedd link ads jonnyb: hey lphuberdeau - you know about this svn merging thing lphuberdeau: most of what there is to know jonnyb: i'm getting loads of prop changes - the usual suspects (lib/test ones) - is there any way of getting rid of them? ***: SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: at the moment my plan is to do an initial merge by hand from 4.x to trunk, as the script seems to be saying it can't do the first one marclaporte: ah jonnyb: there is one real difference in tests/testfile.txt, but i'm only getting the bogus property stuff marclaporte: ricks99 : maybe your browser? lphuberdeau: was it upgraded to handle the 4.x branch name? I suspect the regular expressions in there are fairly strict jonnyb: i think my time would be better spent fixing bugs... marclaporte: lphuberdeau : no jonnyb: yes, i changed svn tools is_stable to suit marclaporte: with 4.0 or 4.x, it would not work either way jonnyb: r22638 <br> but i suspect there's more to do! lphuberdeau: I would just remove that stupid test folder on both sides <br> completely useless jonnyb: great! kil kil kil!!!! <br> (except it looks like there has been lots of "work" in there) SEWilco2: kil kil? I think I saw that movie. jonnyb: :) <br> having stepped through the svnbranchupdadte script it looks like it really has to find something in find_last_merge() to work, is that right? (seems "odd") <br> i think i'll remove all the mergeinfo props from trunk - surely that shouldn't be in there? (just in the branches, right?) <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: at the moment i'm testing having replaced line 37 of svnbranchupdate.php from "error( "Could not find previous merge. Impossible to merge automatically." );" to $last=0; - does that sound like A Good Thing? chibaguy: fresh install of branch 4x results in system error "Table '4xg.tiki_pages' doesn't exist The query was: select tp.* from `tiki_pages` as tp order by `pageName` desc" . Is this expected at this point? (database name is "4xg".) lphuberdeau: those scripts don't use the svn merge props <br> they were written before svn added those jonnyb: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: good - but they keep merging them back in (and out) lphuberdeau: and because they are done client side, we can't rely on everyone having svn 1.5 anyway jonnyb: <u>chibaguy</u>: i had a tiki_pages missing thing on trunk the other day - trying to remember why... lphuberdeau: the script looks for the previous commit by matching the commit message <br> finding nothing is a problem jonnyb: oh yes, i'd set the database to use ucs-8 encoding, instead of utf-8 (don't even know what usc is!) <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: finding nothing means it's the first merge, no? lphuberdeau: The branching commit message has a specific format too jonnyb: yes, spotted that <br> this was why i was going to fake one <br> the script just ran - doing $last=0 instead of error() - checking... <br> hmmm - it did nothing :( CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22817 10/trunk/ (lib/categories/categlib.php tiki-approve_staging_page.php): [MOD] Mozilla upstream. This is the integral file from mozilla. No significant changes were made on the tiki side since 1.10. lphuberdeau: well, you can do it manually and just write the commit message as it should be <br> those scripts don't do magic jonnyb: having a go at that (manually == every year!) lphuberdeau: just avoid the tedious manual task of checking logs CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22818 10/trunk/tests/testfile.txt: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 0 to 22816 <br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22819 10/branches/4.x/tests/testfile.txt: [TEST] 2nd test commit after 1st merge jonnyb: bbl ***: jonnyb is now known as jonnyb|oot <br> damian1 has joined #tikiwiki <br> marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <br> lorinc has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) <br> lorinc has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: tiki_pages table wasn't created because " Column 'pageName' cannot be part of FULLTEXT index". I got 13 errors similar to this doing the fresh install of branch 4. ***: RavenC has joined #tikiwiki <br> jonnyb|oot is now known as jonnyb jonnyb: <u>chibaguy</u>: did you see my msg about the encoding? i think it got swamped in svn stuff <br> (previously) chibaguy: i had a tiki_pages missing thing on trunk the other day - trying to remember why... oh yes, i'd set the database to use ucs-8 encoding, instead of utf-8 (don't even know what usc is!) chibaguy: oh ok. now I see. jonnyb: so that sounds like it's a FULLTEXT thing of some sort chibaguy: damn, I did the same thing. <br> ucs2_general_ci <br> :-) jonnyb: i wonder what it is (apart from your bedtime! ;) ) chibaguy: hm, 3-letter acronym starting with u - must be the one. ;-) <br> or abbreviation <br> made a new table with the right encoding and this time no errors :-) CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22820 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]TRACKERFILTER: force to test on the upper value chibaguy: er, i mean a new db. CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22821 10/branches/4.x/ (52 files in 21 dirs): [SVN] Removing old mergeinfo props for cleaner merging in future ***: marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki <br> ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte sylvieg: hello <br> is the merging problem fixed? jonnyb: i hope so - just running it now <br> sign... it's doing all the props mergeinfo again :( obviously have to remove them from trunk (i think?) <br> sign=sigh ***: chealer has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: here goes... CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22822 10/trunk/ (55 files in 23 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 22816 to 22821 ricks99: has anyone tried to combine the mod-translation & mod-switchlang? i'd like to be able to show all language options in a single module CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22823 10/branches/4.x/tests/testfile.txt: [TEST] 3rd test commit after 2nd (1st proper automatic) merge chibaguy: In my localhost branch 4, minify javascript seems to work fine - superfish, column hide/show, etc. work normally. <br> oops. it's not minifying. Maybe due to being a wamp server, even though minify javascript is turned on, firebug shows the js scripts aren't minified. CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22824 10/branches/4.x/lib/test/core/WikiParser/: [SVN] Removing old mergeinfo props for cleaner merging in future (missed one) <br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22825 10/trunk/ (. lib/test/core/WikiParser/ tests/testfile.txt): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 22821 to 22823 ***: timotiCK has joined #TIKIWIKI <br> yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki <br> timotiCK has quit IRC (Client Quit) <br> Wilkins has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) chibaguy: ah, I see a minified js does get made, but there are a lot of other .js files also - jquery, superfish, etc. That doesn't seem right. CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22826 10/trunk/: [SVN] Added svn-commit.tmp to svn:ignore <br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22827 10/branches/4.x/temp/public/: [SVN] Ignore minified script cache ricks99: ward22cat <br> oops wrong channel <br> :( yonixxx: :) hi Rick ricks99: hi yonixxx yonixxx: hope you are doing ok ricks99: yes, thanks. and u too ***: dthacker has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <br> dthacker has joined #tikiwiki CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22828 10/branches/4.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [bp/ r 22820][FIX]TRACKERFILTER: force to test on the upper value <br> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22829 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-editpage.tpl tiki-editpage.php): [ENH] Mozilla upstream. Suggest to change page title if it contains bad characters. ***: nkoth has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: TikiFest day3, has started ***: dexl has joined #tikiwiki CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22830 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Add a switch to prevent the creation of pages containing bad characters. <br> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22831 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [MOD]lesser magic: radio prefs (todo: hide the child when switching) ***: SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") nkoth: jonnyb: jonnyb: hi nkoth nkoth: hi, yesterday i was testing out the category perms ***: dthacker has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) nkoth: and sometimes a "Remove button" appears <br> what does "Remove" mean? jonnyb: remove should appear when there are some perms to remove ***: dthacker has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: means delete really i suppose nkoth: delete? ***: SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki nkoth: so if I have assigned some, and I uncheck and assign again, it removes. jonnyb: perms are rows in the user_xxxxperm tables - removing them means deleting those rows <br> yup nkoth: so why is there a need for a "Remove" button? (isn't assign enough?) CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22832 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [ENH] Change the message if the prevent switch is on jonnyb: you don't have to click it :) ***: test has joined #tikiwiki test: wow sylvieg: in which table are kept the installer/schema that have been run? ***: test is now known as Guest84856 <br> Guest84856 has quit IRC (Client Quit) jonnyb: tiki_schema or something i think sylvieg ***: pascalstjean has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: thx jonnyb pascalstjean: BigBlueButton has been rebooted. We are broadcasting with sound today nkoth: <u>jonnyb</u>: if I click remove, it's supposed to remove which perms? All? CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22833 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091103_upgrade_categperm_tiki.php: [FIX] officially move the categ perm upgrade script to the installer ... better than nothing jonnyb: all perms on the current object <br> it doesn't (shouldn't) appear on global perms CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22834 10/branches/4.x/tests/upgrade_categperm.php: moved yonixxx: In "Image Gallery" i can't find a way on TW3 to move an image from a gallery to another gallery... That looks trivial so i guess i miss something... marclaporte: yay for Radio buttons in dynamic prefs! chibaguy: hi yonixxx yonixxx: Hi hi hi ! :D marclaporte: <u>sylvieg</u>: : for your last commit, $tiki_p_admin check doesn't seem needed? yonixxx: or Ay Ay Ay Chibaguy chibaguy: at a url like tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=43, I get a dropdown selector "Move image:" <br> :-) nkoth: <u>jonnyb</u>: so "Remove Category Perms Set" might be a better label I think, but it's a mouthful <br> or maybe we can add that to the tooltip chibaguy: yonixxx, do you see it? - down below the image in that table of image information. yonixxx: lol chibaguy !!! If i browse an image, i have an option (as admin) to move it (the one you just point to me). If i edit an image... i don;t have that option. <br> i guess as small tuning should be good :D CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22835 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091103_upgrade_categperm_tiki.php: oops- no need to check perms in installer chibaguy: ah <br> well, i believe the plan is to use file galleries also for images, and phase out image galleries. So you could check the procedure for moving files, there, maybe. sylvieg: I have no idea how a php script must be writen for the isntaller chealer: polom Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Tracking Content at a user level - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35123 chealer: ahah, doc.tw.o fixed <br> (logins) ***: coaboa_ is now known as coaboa chealer: <u>Kimberlee</u>: yes, see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/File+Gallery+Config&structure=Documentation (post_max_size) CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22836 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091103_upgrade_categperm_tiki.php: oops again - a php installer script is a php but a function <br> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22837 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Cleaning up misplaced hints. ***: yonixxx has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) marclaporte: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: : about "Unless a significant amount of preferences are documented and use dynamic preferences before the 4.0 release, this search feature will become disabled by default." we did good progress, but I don't have a count (or an easy way to count). What do you think we should do? lphuberdeau: disable the search by defaults. All those descriptions are too poor to help searching <br> when there are descriptions at all ***: ricks99 has quit IRC ("Get more Tiki help from TikiWiki for Smarties: http://twbasics.keycontent.org") <br> grobda24 has joined #tikiwiki <br> chealer has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) <br> damian1 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") <br> Torsten_ has joined #tikiwiki Torsten_: hello <br> I would have a question or two, relating to format tikiwikilinks <br> am I right in this chatroom? chibaguy: <u>Torsten_</u>: yes, this is the right place. Torsten_: cool CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22838 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Mozilla upstream. Allow to disable the reply title for forum threads. Torsten_: I would like to format a wikilink, that opens in a new Tab, or a new Window of the browser ***: lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Torsten_: what is the syntax for that chibaguy: hm, I don't know if that's possible with normal wiki links. But you could use the external link syntax, and set the preference to open external links in a new window. Torsten_: set it in tiki or in the browser? chibaguy: in tiki Torsten_: where? chibaguy: On tiki-admin.php?page=textarea, "Open external links in new window." <br> Then wiki links need to have the [http://www.example.com/Pagename|Pagename] format. <br> I don't know if shortening it to [Pagename] will work. ***: lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22839 10/branches/4.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]admin group: pagination chibaguy: But maybe even with the external link format, if the link isn't really external, maybe Tiki won't apply the open-in-new-window rule. You'll have to test it. Torsten_: thx chibaguy: An alternative would be to use html and use the target=_blank, I guess. ***: chealer has joined #tikiwiki <br> kiilo1 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") chibaguy: well, I just tested and [http://www.mysite.com/MyOtherPage|MyOtherPage] doesn't open in a new window even with its external link syntax, and pref set to open external links in a new window. <br> Can't fool Tiki, I guess. Torsten_: hmm ***: kiilo has joined #tikiwiki Torsten_: any other option? ***: changi|home has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: Do you want every link in your wiki to open in a new window? Torsten_: not necessarily -> I need "not every link open in the same window" <br> would need it optional I guess <br> every link open in a new tab / window would be worse I guess chibaguy: You can use the HTML plugin and then use standard HTML syntax to open in a new window, but would be extra trouble to input each time. Torsten_: I use tiki for an intranet an would like sometimes to use headers as links itself and then I´d need "open in new tab" <br> would I have to upload / install the plugin (I have tiki 2.2 at the moment ... will probably get 3.2 in a while) chibaguy: I don't know if the plugin will work in 2.2. probably not. Torsten_: and ... I am a fool in html ... means I do not "speak" html ;-) <br> What would the situation with the plugin be in 3.2? chibaguy: I don't think there's a simple solution. Torsten_: hm. But there would be a solution at all? <br> I could take it down to a lower priority, once I know some point, where to find the solution chibaguy: In 3.2, you could put standard HTML link syntax inside an {HTML()} plugin. Torsten_: perhabs I could give somebody the job to find it out, once the project went some further <br> Ah, that would be a plugin : {HTML()} ? nkoth: sylvieg: sylvieg: yes chibaguy: {HTML()}<a href=http://sitename.comrdblquote target="_blank">Link text here</a>{HTML} marclaporte: changi|home : changi|work how is doc.tw.o surviving Tiki4 upgrade? CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03dexl_2000 * r22840 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [MOD] removed the profile selection and wording on the 5th installation process. nkoth: <u>sylvieg</u>: when you looked at sumo polls, did you see how tiki will support multiple polls per page? Torsten_: once I know, there would not be an easy solution in 2.2, but it would be quite easy in 3.2, I would decide to wait for the 3.2 sylvieg: Yes it needed a rewritting to be generic - I did the specif - but did not go further <br> if lph or other wants my note... chibaguy: Let me try that again: {HTML()}<a href="http://mysite.com/WikiPageName" target="_blank">WikiPageName</a>{HTML} nkoth: <u>sylvieg</u>: so can I tell lph this is to be upstream and ask you for your note? CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22841 10/branches/4.x/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Make searching in admin panels an option, off by default and experimental. We made great progress here and will continue for Tiki5. http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences sylvieg: yes - even if lph will probably redo the stuff ;-) Torsten_: <u>chibaguy</u>: WARNING: No such module HTML! <a href=HomePage target="_blank">zurück nach Hause</a> <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: what might be the problem on that? chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: the result with upgrade categperms looks good - thank you sylvieg: it is probable incomplete .. butbetter than nothing chibaguy: <u>Torsten_</u>: Are you using Tiki 3? chealer: <u>Torsten_</u>: HTML is a plugin, not a module Torsten_: <u>chibaguy</u>: tiki 2.2 chibaguy: HTML plugin isn't available in tiki 2.2, only 3 and later Torsten_: <u>chealer</u>: probably I didn´t yet understand what a tiki-plugin is at all ?? chibaguy: (IIRC) Torsten_: ahh <br> <u>chealer</u>: chibaguy told me the reason chealer: <u>Torsten_</u>: a plugin is an extension to "Wiki syntax" chibaguy: another option is to turn on HTML generally, then you can use the HTML syntax to open in a new window. <br> Since you are using on an intranet, so a trusted environment. Torsten_: <u>chealer</u>: like an extra code, but I would not install it? are those plugins included out of the box? or can I extend the number of plugins? ***: kiilo has quit IRC ("Leaving.") Torsten_: chi <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: am on that right now chealer: <u>Torsten_</u>: plugins are included, not necessarily enabled. you can create new plugins. chibaguy: sorry, I have to go now (3am here). Torsten_: <u>chealer</u>: aha ... but creation might be some step further ... I am a beginner ;-) <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: thx very much for your help chibaguy: sure, see you later. ***: chibaguy has quit IRC ("Find new themes for Tiki at http://themes.tikiwiki.org.") Torsten_: <u>chealer</u>: you helped me aswell, thx - have to go now by myself CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22842 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [MOD] duplicating Dynamic Content checkbox to main feature admin panel, because people also tend to think it will be here. chealer: <u>Torsten_</u>: it's a pleasure if that helped Torsten_: by chealer chealer: bye Torsten_: ;-) ***: Torsten_ has left <br> marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <br> marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki <br> ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte marclaporte: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Version+lifecycle -> please read CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03dexl_2000 * r22843 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [MOD] accept only mysql databases in database selection on 4th installation process. <br> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22844 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Add pagination to limit the amount of records displayed and loading time. ***: chealer has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) <br> olio_ has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) <br> Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki <br> luminoso has quit IRC ("Leaving") <br> luminoso has joined #tikiwiki CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03nagendra016 * r22845 10/trunk/db/ (5 files): [FIX]Broken Kaltura upload link on clean install ***: RavenC has left CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22846 10/branches/4.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]TRACKERLIST: new param showpagination ***: timotiCK has joined #TIKIWIKI <br> chealer has joined #tikiwiki <br> timotiCK has left <br> chealer has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22847 10/trunk/ (14 files in 9 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 22823 to 22846 luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: is the new param meant as option for the max param ? <br> to display or not the pagination when using max limit ? marclaporte: sylvieg or anyone: if people fix things in trunk (by accident), can that be backported to 4x without risk? Or it will be double commited from 4.x to trunk again? <br> ex.: r22846 <br> oups <br> r22845 /trunk/db/ (5 files): [FIX]Broken Kaltura upload link on clean install jonnyb: <u>marclaporte</u>: it should be ok - svn's not _that_ bad! <br> i was chatting with nagendra earlier but he gone now marclaporte: ok jonnyb: at worst it'll be a phantom conflict marclaporte: sounds fun jonnyb: oh yes, they're fantastic!! <br> mind you, after the past few days rebuilding alcns.net i'm looking forward to some tiki <br> i'll do r 22845 CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22848 10/branches/4.x/db/ (4 files): <br> tikiwiki: [bp / r22845] [FIX]Broken Kaltura upload link on clean install <br> tikiwiki: (and convertsqls) luciash: jonny for a backporter ! ;) jonnyb: hey, i got the GSoC t-shirt, so seems fair! luciash: and google wave invitation ;) jonnyb: yes but i think i lost it... too many mails from that list luciash: i see <br> only régis catched it ;) -: lphuberdeau got one too ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC ("Leaving.") luciash: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ah, congrats :) so i suppose you're in touch already with régis there lphuberdeau: yeah, we planned a pub crawl for jonny in there jonnyb: think it might be a bit cold for t-shirts? ***: lphuberdeau has quit IRC ("Leaving.") <br> yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki <br> Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away <br> timotiCK has joined #TIKIWIKI <br> timotiCK has left CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22849 10/branches/4.x/ (5 files in 5 dirs): <br> tikiwiki: [KIL] Remove experimental static minified JS files and references <br> tikiwiki: (also $Id property and (c) notice added) ***: jonnyb is now known as jonnyb|feeding <br> Bernard- has joined #tikiwiki <br> AtnNn has joined #tikiwiki <br> SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") <br> kiilo has joined #tikiwiki <br> yonixxx has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <br> lorinc has quit IRC (Connection timed out) <br> SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki <br> lorinc has joined #tikiwiki <br> Tikiwiki|bot has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) <br> Tikiwiki|bot has joined #tikiwiki <br> coaboa has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) <br> ibrrorg has joined #tikiwiki ibrrorg: I am attempting to configure the Maps. The config page asks me to enter files that I don’t understand such as full path to mapfiles, default mapfile, full path to gdaltindex and ull path to ogr2ogr. I have the google maps setup and the Maps folder on my server only has an index.php. Where can I read what files to add/create and then where can I read on how to start deploying the maps in a page? Thanx! <br> this is the doc page for configs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Maps+Config luciash: iirc Map feature doesn't use Google Maps but requires own map server installation <br> try to use Google Maps feature instead (if any) ibrrorg: is there a page that will show me how to deploy a map in a page? right now when i click the usermap in the toolbar there's no way to create an independent area so to speak---i geuss i'm asking what is the 'code/script' i type in to display the map in a page <br> i am a hobo (freight hopper here in the States and maps are critical. would it be worth my while to attempt to instal the map server i.e.; is it good open source (no api trademarks, etc) to mess with and document hybrid type of stuff? marclaporte: all TikiFesters: http://tikiwiki.org/Viral+TikiWiki ***: oys has joined #tikiwiki luciash: >doctwo Gmap+Admin Sug4r: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Gmap+Admin luciash: <u>ibrrorg</u>: ^ ibrrorg: linking now <br> i've done all that; let me rephrase: how do I now make a goolge map of my choice appear in a page---is there a doc on this? thanx, in advance, for taking time to help me! ***: Torsten_ has joined #tikiwiki CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22850 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20090921_workspaces_tiki.sql: [FIX] Restore installer upgrade script for workspace helper. A new patch should be made to delete or modify any data or schema. <br> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22851 10/branches/4.x/tiki-plugins.php: notice luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: see the chat in bbb ibrrorg: how do i get there? marclaporte: <u>GillesM</u>: : time to remove Multimedia feature! oys: <u>marclaporte</u>: WYSIWYG_Wiki is not quite perfect yet. I've migrated a lot of content into the wiki using the regular wiki, but sometimes when I edit a page with wysiwyg, it takes away the line breaks. ***: grobda24 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) oys: <u>marclaporte</u>: is this something you've come across? and do you know if there are any large users of tikiwiki that use wysiwyg for their wiki? marclaporte: oys : council of Europe ***: SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") oys: <u>marclaporte</u>: that's great news. are they using 3, 4, or the coe-branch? <br> I'd love to read/learn more about their setup. ***: Torsten_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) luciash: <u>oys</u>: i think line breaks are largely affected by what you have set on Admin → Wiki for Wiki paragraph formatting marclaporte: <u>oys</u>: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/CoE sylvieg: + use htmlpurifier ***: kiilo has quit IRC ("Leaving.") <br> ibrrorg has quit IRC ("Page closed") marclaporte: <u>oys</u>: you have their nicks so I suggest to try to catch them when they come online :-) oys: will do. I'm really happy with everything except these minor issues that I understand are not that minor to correct (referring to the wiki-syntax/html dilemma) ***: SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: <u>oys</u>: do you follow devel mailing list? -: changi|work nice work with branching :) changi|work: oys : we are using Tiki3 oys: <u>marclaporte</u>: I must admit, I did not. I will now though. ***: Caarrie|away has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.) <br> Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: oys : http://old.nabble.com/Text-area-helpers%2C-Wiki-Syntax-and-WYSIWYG-and-the-strategic-%09importance-for-TikiWiki-to25860720.html oys: changi|work: are your users mostly using WYSIWYG for editing wiki entries? and are you experiencing any issues with e.g. linebreaks? Also, what settings/profile are you using for wysiwyg? <br> changi|work: it would be really interesting to read more about your setup. maybe a sort of "customer testimonial" :) changi|work: <u>oys</u>: personally i don't use WYSIWYG, but nyloth and pkdille could certainly answer this luciash: <u>oys</u>: i am using wysiwyg only when testing ***: changi|work is now known as changi|sleep <br> Caarrie has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) oys: <u>marclaporte</u>: I'd come across that post earlier. I fall in the "you are not convinced yourself" category, though I'm leaning more and more towards educating users. at first glance it seems like there should be a simple solution, but I've understood that the devil is in the details :/ ***: Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki marclaporte: there are recent messages on that thread <br> oys : if someone can find one single stable implementation... <br> Perhaps part of the solution is to lock some pages to WYSIWYG ***: Caarrie has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) oys: finished reating through the thread now. I am dealing with very non-technical users many for whom the concept of a wiki in itself is new. Even creating internal links with (()) is new. So far, only a small team of a handfull of people have been using the regular wiki-syntax editor. i was hoping to figure out how to painlessly switch to wysiwyg, but if that won't happen in a while, it will be interestning to see how users will react. <br> my fear is that they will renounce it without really giving it a try because it is not as "easy" to use as word :/ marclaporte: <u>oys</u>: I have an idea ***: macnific has joined #tikiwiki macnific: Hello everyone. This is my first day at the community. <br> Who can welcome me? luciash: <u>macnific</u>: welcome :) macnific: After succeed Tikiwiki installation. <br> Well. we are creating a barter community and tikiwiki will help a lot marclaporte: oys : tell me what you think: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish2842 macnific: I have read myself all the "open organization" principles that goes in the same direction of my thinking marclaporte: welcome macnific macnific: thanks marcla, thanks luciash <br> I also reformed the PT-BR translation. And I will put available to the community. marclaporte: <u>macnific</u>: Did you read http://tikiwiki.org/Model ? macnific: <u>marclaporte</u>: great.. Java is really good. We have also installed Cyclos in our community and it is java based. <br> <u>marclaporte</u>: good page. I have no doubt about tiki. I made a long comparision inside wikimatrix.org <br> Sure I will be here giving feedback for the dev team. ***: danopia` has quit IRC ("2b||!2b") macnific: however the point here now is more concerning the principles. ***: danopia` has joined #tikiwiki macnific: I saw the video of TikiFest in spain. Great. luciash: <u>macnific</u>: Java ? <br> <u>macnific</u>: we are PHP, mostly macnific: But I would like to know if Tikiwiki needed to officialize itself as an institution. Or does it exist only virtually inside net? <br> <u>luciash</u>: I know tikiwiki is PHP. I was answering concerning the page from marclaporte. luciash: we needed to officialize just recently to have some bank account legal wire <br> ah, the Model ? <br> ok macnific: yes... <br> Ok, let me show you something <br> www.troquei.com <br> this is the community I have created since I got back to my country, Brazil. <br> ohh no mine, really, anyway... <br> here is the animation I did: http://web.mac.com/pedrobarbosa/troquei/Splash.html <br> and here the Tikiwiki : http://wiki.troquei.com/tikiwiki33/ <br> I am at configuration moment. <br> and preparing the wiki pages <br> and your pages has been an inspiration for me. Mainly the dogfood and Do-ocracry terms. hehe luciash: cool macnific: Now the point is... how to transfer this great community philosophy (focused in development) to do something similar, but turned to human beings. <br> that is the point I would like to have someone sharing thoughts. <br> You all certainly have seem barter communities such as Lets, etc. <br> What do you think about it? luciash: we're all human beings here (except some few bots ;)) macnific: hahaha, bots has helped sometimes more than some other people I know. ahaha <br> ;D luciash: sure marclaporte: The wiki way, applied to community development luciash: <u>Sug4r</u>: what do you think ? Sug4r: Maybe... macnific: well. I would like to know how have Tikiwiki community deal with taxs, governament, etc. <br> Did your team created chart as a company? <br> Does it has an official office? <br> or just a server as address? hhehee <br> those are the questions we are asking ourselves over here. marclaporte: http://tikiwiki.org/Tiki+Software+Community+Association macnific: Do we need to exist officially to be together? <br> ohhh no. There is membership luciash: well, we evolved without it <br> this is really just a necessity to handle donations and stuff around that macnific: <u>luciash</u>: did you see zeitgeist? luciash: nope -: marclaporte thinks macnific will be interested in http://cc.tikiwiki.org/ sylvieg: jonnyb|feeding: around: how far sortable is implemented in the table? ***: SEWilco2 has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) macnific: <u>marclaporte</u>: thanks a lot. checking luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: i will have a look macnific: My God. I found my tribe I believe. hehe ***: jonnyb|feeding is now known as jonnyb marclaporte: amd http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Exchange_Market luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: the BBB frozen for me macnific: <u>here</u>: thezeitgeistmovie.com <br> www.thezeitgeistmovie.com jonnyb: hi syvieg macnific: www.thezeitgeistmovement.com luciash: <u>macnific</u>: ok, it's enough, i have no time to watch it now anyway ;) marclaporte: <u>oys</u>: do you think http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish2842 could do the job? macnific: I was not intending to give more than that. Luciash nkoth: I think BBB is down - letting fred know sylvieg: <u>jonnyb</u>: I tried {FANCYTABLE(headclass=sortable) } .. suppose I am missiing some points -: sylvieg begins to like jq jonnyb: sortables sort of workes - messes up the odd/even thing though luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: welcome onboard ;) sylvieg: I am a slow leaner luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: can you repaste here ? macnific: I am not in a rush to change the word, I also do not have time to be with those who want to stop the change. ;) jonnyb: never been aboard sylvieg: is there a place where sortable works? I can give a try to fix the rest nkoth: luci :http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php does not work macnific: Thank everybody, I will be around helping on what I can. nkoth: but http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php?page=testcomment does luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: oh, you mean you never liked jq ? jonnyb: there are 2 or 3 admin tables that use them - i'd have to check sylvieg: okmI saw them... jonnyb: <u>luciash</u>: fancytables, i mean nkoth: <u>luci</u>: http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php?page=testcomment also does not work ***: mlpvolt has joined #tikiwiki nkoth: I mean http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php?page=testcomment2 sylvieg: jonnyb - I simply watnt o put sortable in fancytable ;-) nkoth: <u>luci</u>: page too long? css? jonnyb: does it generate a tbody tag? (and thead) luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: hehe, i was reacting on sylvies quote "sylvieg begins to like jq" macnific: <u>marclaporte</u>: Thanks for existing. jonnyb: :) sylvieg: hehe good point konnyb <br> oops jonnyb jonnyb: 1 min, changing computers ***: jonnyb has quit IRC ("I am going outside... I may be some time...") <br> jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: is there an irc command to get the last few minutes of chat? ***: jonnyb is now known as jonnyb|mobile sylvieg: http://irc.tikiwiki.org/ jonnyb|mobile: thx sylvieg - so not inside the irc client then - just wondering luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: i suspect the minified js <br> <u>nkoth</u>: there seem to be no link to tiki.js nkoth: tiki-js.js? oys: <u>marclaporte</u>: about wish2842. It might work, but I am afraid non-technical users would still see it as buggy (since their reference is a word processor). I got carried away reading about how twiki is approaching the problem : http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/WysiwygPlugin#How_it_works luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: and PHP error on the page <br> <u>nkoth</u>: yes marclaporte: we exactly need people to do this type of research luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: can you try to switch the minified off ? nkoth: <u>luciash</u>: ok, one sec luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: js console says it oys: <u>marclaporte</u>: I saw that on in your post. I've been giving this quite some thought, but I don't yet have a good enough understandning about the issue to make myself usefull just yet. marclaporte: <u>oys</u>: in your research: http://tikiwiki.org/Wiki+Landscape luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: SyntaxError: Parse error → minified_f494d67819d3ef3da8f63e52a3216b85.js (line 258)SyntaxError: Parse error marclaporte: <u>oys</u>: you don't need to understand how they do it. Just validate that it works well. nkoth: <u>luciash</u>: turned off minify js <br> <u>luciash</u>: did it fix it for you? luciash: yes nkoth: let me turn it on again ***: SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki luciash: but still there's unmatched tag generated (span) oys: I think I would be happy with a very simple wysiwyg editor that just handles simple stuff like bold, italic, and headings (and maybe tables) luciash: <u>oys</u>: you can configure the toolbars icons now marclaporte: the slippery slope! oys: links and functions like toc don't need to be wysiwyg because they are more advanced features. but telling people that _ means bold will be too much nkoth: <u>luciash</u>: ok, that reproduced problem...hmm, i wonder if minify has a cache ***: SEWilco2 has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) luciash: <u>oys</u>: at least in Tiki trunk <br> <u>nkoth</u>: yes, it has <br> <u>nkoth</u>: ctrl + U and you will see the reference oys: <u>luciash</u>: I know, and I've been doing this based on the various wysiwyg profiles. currently my only problem is changing between the two ways of editing breaks line-breaks ***: SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki luciash: <u>oys</u>: have you tried the Wiki Paragraph Formating and HTML purifier as sylvie suggested ? sylvieg: <u>oys</u>: there is a setting for taht - /me never remember which one luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: imho TRACKER and TRACKERLIST needs approval sylvieg: ok for me - even if I think it is pretty tuff... nkoth: <u>luciash</u>: how you get that js error? my firebug report no error luciash: well, without it any user with tiki_p_edit can query registration user data from a tracker macnific: <u>marclaporte</u>: I knew transitionner.org. I see everything start to converge to the same point. luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: top menu → Tools → Error Console <br> <u>nkoth</u>: i was looking with Arora Web Inspector though ***: Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki mlpvolt: is anyone working on file galleries for 4.x these days? luciash: <u>mlpvolt</u>: not me sylvieg: <u>oys</u>: Did you play with admin->textarea: tikiparagraph formatting and but still create a breaks within parag <br> <u>mlpvolt</u>: I am working around luciash: BBB seems to be broken for me currently still nkoth: <u>luciash</u>: i don't know enough about minify to know why it might break that page but not http://vps13.etazo.net/trunk2/tiki-index.php?page=testcomment marclaporte: sylvieg : can I delete this file? http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/db/fulltext.sql?revision=13490&view=markup luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: no idea, maybe because of the PHP error reporting ? marclaporte: and this? http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/db/case_patch.php?revision=19138&view=markup luciash: <u>nkoth</u>: try to switch that off too nkoth: <u>luciash</u>: ok mlpvolt: hi sylvie, i've been doing some followup to work we did on filegalleries before, i've been testing and documenting ((doc:multimedia)) marclaporte: luciash : fixed width is not working for me: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/4x/tiki-index.php mlpvolt: will ping you later with some ideas. luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: you have shadow layers on ? sylvieg: <u>oys</u>: I juste tested with wysiwyg - i did not add br - so it is probably a setting marclaporte: <u>luciash</u>: : will try oys: <u>sylvieg</u>: there are so many settings in so many places so I don't blame you. customization is a good thing, but the more there is, the more to learn. thank you for all of your input. I will play around with various settings (again) and see how far I get. ***: Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away marclaporte: tiki-admin.php?page=look -> shadow layer options are scary. All these boxes, I dunno what to answer sylvieg: <u>oys</u>: admin ->editing Wiki paragraph formatting and but still create line breaks within paragraphs. are on marclaporte: <u>luciash</u>: fixed width is working when feature_layoutshadows is to y. But why do I need to do this? luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: blame microsoft ;) <br> it needs extra div to make it work across browsers (including you know which one) marclaporte: why not always have on? (clutter?) oys: sylvieg/marclaporte: I reproduce the error consistently: saving something with regular editor and then opening in wysiwyg with wysiwyg_wiki profile on a clean install removes all line-breaks. luciash: yes, some people don't need those extra wrapping divs... maybe it could be done better, maybe using jquery but i tried hard to make it work with every browser for ones and not to break anything for the others <br> <u>marclaporte</u>: maybe for Tiki 4.1 <br> you can put it on by default though marclaporte: or Tiki5 :-) luciash: for installs <br> and if people don't need it, they can switch it off <br> wouldn't hurt i guess ***: pascalstjean has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]") marclaporte: I am trying to find a way to have non-super-large page on fresh installs luciash: you can put a note next to it that it is needed by fixed option for theme jonnyb|mobile: <u>oys</u>: do you have wiki paragraph formatting on? marclaporte: using strasa-fixed instead of thenews.css nkoth: we are changing location shortly oys: jonnyb|mobile: yup. the only things I've changed are what's configured by this profile: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=WYSIWYG_Wiki luciash: sure, maybe it's time to change theme for major release <br> default theme jonnyb|mobile: that's what it does - i was going to fix it but apparently that's the desired behaviour sylvieg: what is the default theme in t4? ***: jonnyb|mobile is now known as jonnyb luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: currently still thenews for barebones profile marclaporte: sylvieg : still thenews.css but I would prefer to change if another is nice/stable enough -: sylvieg votes to change to sttrasa or coe marclaporte: strasa is nice but quite buggy on IE CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03dexl_2000 * r22852 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-change_password.tpl: [MOD] adding instant password check on change-password page, just basic functions at the moment. Future addon can be returnning of user name via js on GO BACK button, and tiki submit limit. luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: still ? oys: also, ((links)) sometimes get garbled to [tiki-index.php?page=links|links], but this I can live with (for now) -: sylvieg remembers niclone fixed to excessive <br>... <br> sylvieg does not lik 22852 tone for a pre-release luciash: <u>oys</u>: ((links)) get duplicated here after preview in wysiwyg -: luciash wonders if preview in wysiwyg is necessary luciash: or somehow "duplicated", to be more precise ***: Tikiwiki|bot has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) <br> Tikiwiki|bot has joined #tikiwiki <br> nkoth has quit IRC () <br> dexl has left oys: <u>sylvieg</u>: to be clear: when you test wysiwyg, are you able to save something with the regular editor and then open it with wysiwyg and retain linebreaks? marclaporte: luciash : yup sylvieg: <u>oys</u>: yes <br> just the setting are not friendly.. ***: Beestje_ has joined #tikiwiki oys: I've now played with both wiki_paragraph_formatting settings with no luck ***: Beestje has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) oys: <u>sylvieg</u>: are you using a profile or did you set it up manually? either way: how did you do it :) ***: Beestje_ is now known as Beestje -: sylvieg needs to download a fresh install - but it is my 3- today .. pretty tired ***: mlpvolt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22853 10/branches/4.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Changing the first impressions after a fresh install. using Strasa-fixed. This is up for debate. What do you think? marclaporte: luciash : can you review my latest commit? <br> We are moving to new place ***: rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: <u>marclaporte</u>: the king of prefs setting - jquery is on by default now but {JG()} is not <br> sorry {JQ()} marclaporte: who needs? <br> people will put jquery in wiki pages? sylvieg: I am trying to have FANCYTABLE using tablesort <br> ... ok I can figure it out marclaporte: bbl <br> good work everyone! <br> Tiki4 is looking fabulous ***: SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") CIA-78: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22854 10/branches/4.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: missing prefs ***: lorinc has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) oys: <u>sylvieg</u>: do you have time to pastebin output from select * from tiki_preferences;? 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