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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r22893 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl: [ENH] Info message on perms displayed should be different if object is a category [00:18]
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mlaportesylvieg: fixed.css is fixed width if shadows are on [00:34]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r22894 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl: [ENH] different tooltip explanation for Reset to Global Perms button depending on whether object is a category or not [00:35]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22895 10/branches/4.x/ (lib/prefs/feature.php templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl): [FIX] move __Powered by__ to dynamic preferences [00:49]
jonnybpolom [00:50]
marclaporteyo jonnyb [00:52]
jonnybgreets
glad lp found a good fix for the dynamic js file - i had a really hacky fix for it that i'm happily overriding :)
[00:52]
chealerhi jonnyb [00:56]
jonnybhi chealer [00:56]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22896 10/branches/4.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] __Powered by__ in dynamic preferences: missing dependencies [00:56]
jonnybhow's the 'fest? [00:56]
marclaportepretty good
getting hungry
does this mean we can chuck the other minified stuff soon?
can we use the same system for css?
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jonnybi already rolled it back (like tiki-js.min.js etc)
possibly (css)
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chealernot very productive for me. one thing which didn't help is I had to reinstall my machine, which pretty much meant switching from KDE 3 to KDE 4. nice upgrade, but time-consuming. I hope to do better in Montreal! [00:58]
luciashsylvieg: as marc said, you need to switch layer shadows on if you want browser compatible tableless fixed width [00:58]
jonnybjonnyb still impressed by being able to see people in Canada from here
bbb seems to work - chealer looking hungry though!
[01:04]
chealerhehehe
I'm not, probably just tired
[01:08]
jonnyb& nkoth (and all) - want to have a discussion about the tiki-shopping thing, i have a possible in the uk
i'd like ti to be called tiki-kart
(for 5.x)
[01:09]
marclaporteSuper! [01:09]
nkothjonnyb: sounds exciting - when? [01:09]
marclaporteor TikiCart [01:09]
jonnybnkoth: you going to be in Montreal? [01:10]
nkothonly from Wed pm [01:10]
jonnybyou know what day it is? [01:10]
marclaporteToday is Wednesday [01:11]
jonnybi'm there all week [01:11]
marclaporte:-) [01:11]
jonnybjonnyb sounding like an old Las Vegas act [01:11]
nkothI'll be there Nov 11 pm [01:11]
jonnybi had been investigating
had/have
marclaporte: i like the "K" in TikiKart - it's more wrong
[01:12]
marclaportehahahahahah [01:15]
luciashheheh, reminds me TuxKart... sounds like the little racing vehicles to me [01:15]
jonnybhi luciash - like "fun", you mean? [01:16]
marclaporteMarioKart ? [01:16]
luciashyep [01:16]
nkoththen we can create a tiki-game where the aim is to get as many things in the cart from the shop (like a game show) [01:16]
luciash*g*
jonnyb: it is your choice but TikiCart sounds more serious to me ;)
[01:16]
jonnybi once planned a game called "Sonic The Shoplifter" - similar thing (?) [01:17]
luciashheheee
Run for the discounts madness
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nkothlol - yup [01:19]
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chealerjonnyb: thanks for the plugin buttons label fix [01:22]
jonnybnp - you were right, there was a label missing - "submit"
still need to fix translation on those JS strings somehow (4.1?)
[01:23]
luciashjonnyb: i suppose you have to put them in tpl [01:24]
nkothjonnyb: is there a lib to translate js strings in js, or are they all smarty?
(just wondering about the mechanics...)
[01:24]
jonnybluciash: tpl stuff doesn't go through headerlib (always) - better in php, imho [01:25]
luciashwas it header-jquery.tpl where we did it ?
ok
[01:25]
jonnybno, it's hard-coded into tiki-jquery.js afaicr [01:26]
luciashi mean for the others... i did something for shadowbox or colorbox iirc
to have it translated
[01:26]
jonnybi'm thinking if a new file in lang/xx/
or something
so it can be cached and minified and that
[01:26]
nkothI concerned about sending a larger file (more strings) than necessary
but I'm not sure what's best practice
[01:28]
jonnybme neither - just guessing [01:29]
luciashno problem so long as it works and not overcomplicated [01:30]
nkothI'm googling multilingual jquery to see if I find anything... [01:30]
luciashbtw, any easy way to generate sitemap in tiki ? [01:30]
jonnybbut it needs to be a load of php accessible data like that, but different from "normal" tpl strings [01:30]
luciashor any way, even ? [01:31]
marclaporteluciash: I need an orange big RSS icon for tiki-admin.php?page=rss (any ideas?) [01:31]
jonnyb(so not just added to the $lang array) [01:31]
marclaportesitemap: check with slj institute [01:31]
jonnybluciash: mozilla? [01:31]
luciashmarclaporte: i guess there are plenty of them with "compatible license"
jonnyb: sorry ?
[01:32]
jonnybrss icon? [01:32]
luciashmarclaporte: thx
jonnyb: sorry i don't get the image
rss = mozilla ?
[01:32]
marclaporteyes, rss icon [01:33]
jonnybthe orange cube with sort of radio waves coming out [01:34]
marclaporteyes
nothing to do with Mozilla
[01:34]
jonnybno, but they might have a "free" icon for it [01:34]
chealerprobably even better if we have a general "Feed" icon [01:34]
marclaportethis one but legal: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Feed-icon.svg/128px-Feed-icon.svg.png [01:34]
jonnybagreed chealer [01:34]
luciashmarclaporte: there is none in the jini iconset ? [01:35]
jonnybi was with a client today who was a little muddled with the terminology - "External feed" / "RSS feed" / "rsslist" etc [01:36]
chealersad, since we already changed "RSS modules" recently [01:37]
nkothjonnyb: just thinking aloud what happens when a user has say a minified/cached js and then switches language? [01:37]
chealerbut changing "RSS feed" to "Internal feeds" would build on that and be quite clear. [01:38]
marclaporteI need this icon (or similar) http://demo.tikiwiki.org/4x/pics/large/gnome-globe.png for a new panel "connect" [01:38]
chealer(I don't know what rsslist is about) [01:38]
jonnybchealer: let's change the label on the admin menu to suit too (one day) [01:38]
chealerjonnyb: hum... [01:38]
jonnybnkoth: yes, we'd have to cater for that - probably part of headerlib by the sound of it [01:39]
luciashmarclaporte: it looks legal to me... why you think it is not legal to use that ? it is tri-licensed (LGPL too) [01:39]
marclaporteI found a good one ( connect_no.png ) in Jini-LGPL (where do I upload?) [01:39]
chealerjonnyb: oh. I missed that one, sorry. I should remember to do that. [01:40]
jonnybjonnyb sees a surrealist view of the fest - the top of chealer's head on one cam, an empty water glass on another, almost a koan [01:41]
Caarriewould something like http://www.icojoy.com/articles/23/ work? [01:41]
jonnyblooks spot on, Caarrie [01:42]
Caarriegreat
it linked from http://www.opensourcehunter.com/2009/02/16/22-useful-and-free-icon-packs/
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chealerhehe [01:43]
Caarriethere are some rss ones in http://www.pinvoke.com/ as well [01:43]
jonnybsorry to be dull, but what's the license? (can't see one) [01:43]
Caarrie"Free icon set that includes 28 RSS icons of 7 diferent types with 4 color variants. Icon set also includes a .psd source file with icons' reflection." is all i can see [01:44]
jonnyband "free" is ok? (he suggests devilishly) [01:44]
Caarriethe second link has "All 72 icons,PNG format.Feel free to use them without any permission.Hope you like them." [01:45]
jonnybis good for me (but...) [01:45]
Caarriewhat about http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/ ?
they have a few rss icons in that pack
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jonnybhttp://www.icojoy.com is nice , thanks Caarrie - can we use these in tiki?
(nice loading spinners)
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chealersylvieg: there's a problem with upgrade categperms [01:48]
Caarrieas long as you like their license, which i dont see on that page other then "free" [01:48]
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jonnybi love the license (personally), it's the grown-ups i'm worried about... [01:49]
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jonnyb"Get access to all our icons for a year - $499" - not for tiki then :( [01:50]
marclaporteLOL [01:51]
luciashsilk is 16x16 max [01:51]
Caarriejonnyb: did you try http://icojoy.com/lj/free/rss/rss.zip ? [01:51]
luciashfor little icons we use it but marc needs the bigger one
for us it must be "public domain", LGPL, MIT or BSD
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jonnybi'm a bit confused between "free" and "$499" [01:53]
luciashif it's labeled "free" it is usually not free as in speech
hheheh
afaik
is there any other license i didn't mention which is LGPL compatible ?
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jonnybbut that icon is in firefox, so must be "nearly" compatible, no? [01:54]
luciashwhich one ?
marc, can i see the icon you found in jini ?
[01:54]
jonnybthe rss one (orange with radio wave things coming out) [01:55]
chealersylvieg: the content of loops is just echo-s [01:56]
luciashyes, jonnyb, it is tri-licensed and LGPL is one of them, but i fear that would need more compatible iconset than Jini
we use two iconsets to be clear: Jini for the bigger icons on tiki-admin.php (48x48) and silk (for all the others 16x16)
so we should stay consistent
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jonnybtrue luciash [01:58]
luciashif we need new one people at tikiwiki-artwork ml should be able to produce a matching one by request [01:58]
Caarriejonnyb: you could look through http://www.maxpower.ca/free-icons/2006/03/05/ [01:59]
luciashrequest can be mail to th ml or bug report at dev.tw.o [01:59]
jonnybbut there isn't a good rss one in there (that i can find) [01:59]
luciash*mail to the ml [01:59]
Caarriethis one has 2 rss icons and is gpl http://www.woothemes.com/2009/09/woofunction-178-amazing-web-design-icons/
jonnyb: or http://www.openshareicons.com/
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jonnybCaarrie: i'm still on http://www.maxpower.ca/the-gpl-stole-my-baby-away/2006/03/08/ - look like a vote for agpl? [02:03]
Caarriei think that last one is your best bet
"The guidelines and FAQs for the Open Share Icon are derived in content and spirt from the ones established by the Mozilla Foundation for the standard orange RSS Feed Icons. A big big thank you to Mozilla."
[02:03]
luciashwell, calm down, if you don't plan to replace all the Jini icons guys and gals ;) [02:04]
jonnyb(by the way, it's not me looking for an icon) [02:04]
Caarriei am _just_ looking for the rss icon [02:04]
luciash:D
marclaporte: so ?
[02:04]
jonnybno, let's stick with what we've got (imho) [02:05]
luciashmarclaporte: link to the icon you found ? [02:05]
Caarriehttp://www.mozilla.org/foundation/feed-icon-guidelines/ [02:07]
jonnybgood find Caarriel [02:08]
Caarriethat is from http://www.openshareicons.com/ [02:08]
jonnybtyping badly - off now, nn [02:09]
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marclaporteluciash : please see my latest commit [02:10]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22897 10/branches/4.x/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [NEW] New __connect__ admin panel, which restores __site register__ link
tikiwiki: (removed from admin panel in a previous version) and starts a new concept to
tikiwiki: help Tiki site admins connect with other members of the community. More details
tikiwiki: at http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Connect TODO: find another icon for RSS feed admin
tikiwiki: panel because this one is hijacked :-)
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marclaporteplanet and plug icon which is used for RSS is perfect for new "Connect" thingnie
and really not so great for RSS. This is why I was thinking of getting proper RSS orange icon
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Caarriemarclaporte: did you see the above link from mozilla? [02:12]
marclaportelooking [02:12]
nkothi'll look at the Connect thing tomorrow - signing off now... [02:14]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22898 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091103_upgrade_categperm_tiki.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] upgrade_categperm loops were apparently doing nothing but output
tikiwiki: *not* tested
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chealersylvieg: that should fix it [02:20]
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marclaporteCaarrie: : I saw, but I have to go [02:22]
Caarrieok [02:22]
marclaportebbl [02:24]
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luciashmorning, chibaguy [02:56]
chibaguygood morning, luciash [03:00]
luciashreplied your concerning mail
;)
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chibaguyheh, yeah, I know it's not easy to have an alternative [03:22]
luciashenabling only the main shadow div could work, what do you think ? [03:23]
chibaguyor the alternative I might propose - templates/strasa/tiki.tpl - wouldn't be acceptable to people
I think just the main shadow div would be better, if that works.
[03:23]
luciashi would prefer if templates/strasa/options/tiki.tpl would be possible but it brings us back to code duplication hell
err, options/fixed/tiki.tpl
anyway
yep
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luciashoups, people, plese come back ;) [03:29]
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chibaguyWhat if main shadow div becomes a permanent div?
(edit tiki.tpl)
there are other designs that could use it (fixed width).
[03:31]
luciashi have no problem with that, just the ppl at SuMo will not be happy ;)
maybe
[03:32]
chibaguywell, it can be justified if it's used by a significant number of themes. :-) [03:32]
luciashbut you have +1 from me [03:32]
chibaguyok, I think that's much better than all shadow divs on by default. [03:33]
luciashfor Tiki anyway
yep
sure
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chibaguy: r u gonna do that ?
luciash is busy currently
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chibaguyI was going to ask you the same, for the same reason. ;-) but I'll try later today. [03:59]
luciash*g* :) [04:00]
chibaguyedit tiki.tpl and prefs.php, right? [04:00]
luciashyep, will you keep the current main-shadow to allow even more tricks ?
maybe add the hardcoded div and call it #fixedwidth ?
[04:01]
chibaguysee who should be doing this change? ;-) [04:03]
luciashthat fixedwidth wrapper will be parent of main-shadow of course
:-p
okay
but i will maybe later today too
[04:03]
chibaguysorry for pushing off the job
I will be available to criticize later on. ;-)
[04:03]
luciashyeah, we have do-ocracy ! remember
:)
[04:04]
chibaguyI would be happy to do it, but am not sure I have your ideas clearly.
Actually I think I have it, so if i get to it first, i will do it.
otherwise you can do it, or clean up my mistakes. ;-)
[04:04]
luciashsounds fair [04:05]
chibaguyyou're thinking of adding a div#fixedwidth just above div#main-shadow, right? [04:06]
luciashyea [04:07]
chibaguyok [04:07]
luciashi will have to update the layout schema img, bueheheh ;) [04:08]
chibaguyunfortunately, yes [04:09]
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pascalstjeanHi everyone, I am looking to mode the text that is displayed on the Default homepage after you install tiki bare bones. Where would I find that? [04:28]
luciashbe careful, it is whole put as translate string [04:29]
pascalstjeanhum ok [04:30]
luciashi am not sure where exactly is the original __HOMEPAGE__ string... maybe be it is like that in lang/en/language.php ? [04:30]
pascalstjeanthe reason why I want to change is because of the 4 links to the profiles. We have changed the Featured profiles for 4x so I need to change the links [04:30]
luciashbut i think marc knows for sure [04:30]
pascalstjeanok thanks for you help Luci. I'll just ask Marc tomorrow morning. I have more work on Profiles to do so I dont' want to waste too much time searching around tonight. [04:31]
luciashsure
i mean, it can wait until you meet marc again ;)
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chibaguysorry, was away, but the string is in the lang files [04:51]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22899 10/branches/4.x/ (lib/setup/prefs.php templates/tiki.tpl):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Added div#fixedwidth in tiki.tpl for Strasa Fixed and other "fixed-width"
tikiwiki: themes, so shadow layer doesn't need to be turned on for this purpose. Default
tikiwiki: setting is back to shadow layer off. (Change made after discussion with luci.)
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22900 10/branches/4.x/styles/strasa/options/fixed.css: [FIX] div name updated for fixed width. [05:41]
chibaguyluciash, Strasa Fixed isn't narrow after changing shadow div to div#fixedwidth. [05:42]
luciashif i am not wrong the css needs to reflect this [05:42]
chibaguyyeah, I just updated strasa/options/fixed.css - changed the div name.
anything else missing, i wonder.
[05:43]
luciashnope, i guess [05:43]
chibaguyah, maybe was a cache problem. now it seems ok.
ok, dogwalking time. bbl.
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22901 10/branches/4.x/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] Prevent text from overlapping when heading wraps to two lines. [06:57]
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luciashhi, is there any global smarty var simmilar to {$user} but returning userId instead ? [08:58]
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Kimberleemorning chibaguy! [11:58]
chibaguyah, good morning [11:59]
Kimberleeu didn't get my email. my machine did auto updates and I lost your address. I should have filed it before I went to bed. [12:02]
chibaguyI see. You can use gary at cunningham-lee dot com. [12:07]
Kimberleewill do [12:08]
chibaguyok [12:15]
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changi|sleepingdoes someone work on doc.two
?
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KimberleeGary: Sent. and Thanks! [12:53]
mlpvoltanybody know the dbname for the profile testing sites? [13:01]
Kimberleeno... just u/p [13:05]
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Kimberleemorning marc :)
mlpvolt: ask marc...
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marclaportepolom [13:09]
mlpvoltthanks kimberlee
hey mr marc.
you know the dbname on the profiles testing installs?
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chealerpolom
hey mlpvolt
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mlpvoltmorning down there [13:20]
marclaportemlpvolt : I dunno. Alain & changi|home / changi|work would know [13:21]
chealermlpvolt: good morning. is evolt your wireless network? [13:21]
mlpvoltwhy yes [13:21]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22902 10/trunk/ (49 files in 16 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 22846 to 22901 [13:23]
chealermlpvolt: cool, so I'm not stealing someone's wifi after all [13:24]
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marclaportesylvieg : merge script is holding up? [14:00]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22903 10/branches/4.x/styles/strasa/ (body-bgd.png options/fixed.css): [MOD]strasa: lighter background + comment that shsow feature must eb on [14:09]
sylviegif guys do not agree with my lighter background for strasa fixed - please roll back
marclaporte: what do you mean?
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marclaportescript from 4.x to trunk, is it working well?
easy, painless?
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sylviegthe same than before... [14:17]
marclaportebut if we go too long, it eventually becomes difficult because of conflicts? [14:20]
sylviegthe problem is when people begin really to dev in trunk
it is not mergeable globbally anymore
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marclaporteunderstood
sylvieg : I love your last commit
have been dreaming of this for months
fixed width, and a nice shaded background
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sylviegfixed width has a problem with col left - it is truncated
and I do not know why the left column too has no more rounded box on the left
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22904 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [KIL] Remove doc that is made obsolete by chibaguy's enhancement [14:31]
chibaguysylvieg, do you mean in the Fixed option. I guess the left column has been made more narrow, so the left edge (including the round corners) is off the screen. [14:33]
sylviegbyt the module does not fit in it anymore [14:33]
chibaguyah, that's a problem.
I'm not sure of luci's design idea there.
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sylviegSo I proposed to go back to 180px - like this we do not have to reduce the modules css also [14:34]
chibaguyI think that makes sense. If necessary, we can give Fixed its own graphics for the top and bottom of the column. [14:34]
marclaporteso we can't have strasa , cool and fixed at the same time [14:34]
chibaguy(if it's meant to be flush-left, so no round corner on the left side) [14:34]
sylviegno you have to create another option [14:35]
chibaguycool + fixed = fool?
or cixed
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sylviegsylvieg thinks that the fix width must be global (did you soeak already about this?)
s/soeak/speak
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chibaguyby global, do you mean in all themes? [14:36]
sylviegyes
it will be cool
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chibaguywhy does it need to be global? [14:37]
sylviegI would like to have coe in fixed width or darkroom... [14:37]
chibaguyI think if the text size is smaller in a theme, then the fix width could be narrower.
Oh, I see what you mean now,.
Can it be a theme option for them?
be back soon
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22905 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-admin_security.tpl: [KIL] Remove doc that is made obsolete. secdb is always added the DB via installer. [14:48]
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22906 10/branches/4.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]strasa: come back to a 180px width not to have a truncated left column + take away a white br in IE7 [14:59]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22907 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.button.php:
tikiwiki: [ENH] add _{selected,disabled}_{text,title,icon} in {button} to allow toggle
tikiwiki: button for watch/no watch for example as asked by Alain, hope it solve the pb ;p
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chibaguyany ideas why a new topbar menu doesn't show up for anons?
I made the menu as admin, cleared the caches, and it shows up normally. I log out, and it doesn't display. Pointing another browser at it, and viewing as anon, and again it doesn't display. I've had this trouble with topbar menus before. I wonder why this happens.
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chibaguythere's no tiki_p_view_topbar_menu, right? ;-) [15:33]
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chibaguyMenu items can be seen by anon. [15:35]
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chibaguytooI think Strasa Fixed is looking kinda retro now, like gamer sites I used to see. No offense meant. Art is subjective. [15:45]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22908 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [MOD] Users are still expecting to find watch related features in main features admin panel, so adding (but keeping in community admin panel as well [15:56]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22910 10/branches/4.x/tiki-newsletters.php: [FIX]newsletter: need to test feature before perm as perm is not loaded is pref not on [16:09]
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chibaguyhmm, perms somehow just got screwed up at themes.tw.o. I applied then unapplied a "can edit" perm to a menu, and now I'm getting refused permission to edit pages or even see some pages, as themestw admin. [16:24]
Kimberleebbl [16:26]
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chibaguywhite screen on blog post there. I'll come back later; maybe it'll mend itself.
Also "Last changes" module is incorrect. Missing several pages I just made. Is somebody messing with the database?
the page were listed in the module a while ago, not aren't.
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now aren't. [16:37]
jonnybhi chibaguy - was this with the new object perms admin page? [16:39]
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chibaguyjonnyb, yes, I assigned some and then unassigned them without realizing the consequences.
Is there a way to fix things?
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jonnybthis was on a menu object? (how?) [16:41]
chibaguyIt's at themes.tw.o, so the site is kind of an older trunk revision.
I was at the admin menus page, and IIRC there was a key icon there on the menu.
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jonnyboh.... hard to tell then
when you say "fix things" what exactly?
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chibaguyperms are kind of messed up in general. [16:42]
jonnybby the upgrade script? (presumably not, if it's "old trunk") [16:43]
chibaguyI get a perm-denied message when trying to see what should be a public page, can't access admin pages tho I have themestwadmins group perms, etc.
just spontaneously messed up after a did the menu perms thing.
I don't see any connection.
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jonnybooo - did it mess up stuff for other objects?
there was a very buggy stage a few weeks ago... i wonder if you have that version?
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chibaguyI think this is older than that. [16:45]
jonnybok, needs updating then (and switching) [16:46]
chibaguyI've been using the site and it's been functioning normally . . . until I hit the key icons on menus, apparently.
Yep, updating would be good.
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jonnybyou should be able to use the old assign perms page still (with a bit of url fiddling) [16:47]
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chibaguyI would if I could access it. [16:49]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22911 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl: syntax [16:50]
chibaguyAlso themes.tw.o is a special case because of using Intertiki. I should have thought about that before messing with permissions at all there.
I was just frustrated by a public menu not displaying.
Hmm, now I can get to admin menus. But I don't have any edit wiki page perms, and am missing view wiki page in some cases.
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jonnybcan you get to the old assign perms page?
e.g. tiki-assignpermission.php?group=Admins
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chibaguyno, permission denied. [16:54]
jonnybik - so you lest tiki_p_admin?
(that's not nice - i did it to myself several times fixing this)
you need to get to the database - phpmyadmin or something?
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chibaguyyes, I'll try that. [16:55]
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chibaguythe thing is, I'm authenticated with intertiki, getting my group perms from tw.o.
I'm not sure how that affects things.
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jonnybthe perms should be local though, right?
i never got intertiki working (days i wasted...)
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chibaguywell, it's getting late here. I'll have to try again in the morning. [16:59]
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jonnybyou (or someone) will need to do "INSERT INTO `users_grouppermissions` (`groupName` ,`permName`) VALUES ('Admins', 'tiki_p_admin');" [16:59]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22912 10/branches/4.x/lib/wikiplugin_screencast.js: jq syntax [17:00]
chibaguyok
thanks
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sylviegjonnyb: if you can check this one ^^^ thx [17:00]
marclaportemarclaporte declares TikiFest open for today in Toronto! (even though it never stops WorldWide) [17:00]
jonnybwill do sylvieg [17:00]
chibaguyand just when I was going to bed.... ;-) [17:00]
jonnybhi 'festers! [17:00]
nkothhi [17:01]
sylviegdoc.tw.org is dead for me since 30mn [17:04]
jonnybsylvieg: 22912 looks fine (although the browser object is deprecated officially - not your doing i know) [17:04]
sylviegthx jonnyb [17:05]
marclaportechangi|home : said that doc is assailed by a bot crawler [17:08]
chealerpolom [17:12]
jonnybpolom chealer [17:12]
chealerhi jonnyb [17:12]
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jonnybchibaguy: i've been wondering about r 22792 a couple of days ago - where you removed the jq compatibility mode code
what errors was it causing?
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22913 10/branches/4.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Correcting other jQuery object references
tikiwiki: (needs to be $jq, not just $ as we're still in compatibility mode, although $ will work mostly if mootools etc hasn't been added externally)
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sylviegsorry doc.tw is dead ... what a podcast gal is supposed to do? I thought it was keeping the extension like 23423423.swf? [17:21]
jonnybthat's what i thought too, sylvieg [17:22]
sylviegso it is broken :-( [17:22]
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chibaguyjonnyb, I hope you mean chealer. [17:23]
jonnyb:D oops, autocomplete error
i'll try again...
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chibaguyI was sweating there for a minute ;-) [17:24]
jonnybchealer: i've been wondering about r 22792 a couple of days ago - where you removed the jq compatibility mode code. What errors was it causing? (i thought that code was needed by the 3rd party jq plugins)
sorry chibaguy - probably the last thing you want to try and get your head around at this time of night!
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chibaguy:-) [17:26]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22914 10/branches/4.x/tiki-jsplugin.php: [MOD] JSLint fixes for plugins JS, even though it's not being minified anymore. [17:26]
jonnybwhile you're there though, chibaguy - the switch theme module sometimes doesn't seem to appear when i assign it - have you found that ever? [17:27]
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jonnybi'm just about to have a go it all that [17:27]
sylviegbtw switch_theme for anon is broken for me .. too many bugs... [17:29]
jonnybyup - fixing it now (hopefully) [17:29]
sylviegand each time I am on trunk and it is bug - need to backport the test in 4 - painful release time [17:30]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22915 10/branches/4.x/tiki-upload_file.php: [FIX]fgal: can upload swf in podcast + error message id extension not accepted (instead of uploading the file witjout extension) [17:38]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22916 10/trunk/ (15 files in 7 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 22901 to 22915 [17:44]
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chibaguyjonnyb, sorry, was away. No, I haven't had that trouble. The module always has appeared. [17:52]
jonnybok - good [17:53]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03pascalstjean * r22917 10/branches/4.x/lang/en/language.php: [MOD] Changed the links on the initial homepage to filter to the 4x version of the profiles [17:53]
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marclaportecongrats to Pascal for his first commit!! [17:54]
chibaguyyay Pascal, and goodnight all. [17:58]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22918 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_flash.php: [MOD]FLASH: new param fileId to be able to use a file from a podcast gal [18:00]
sylviegsylvieg in favor to backport to tiki4 this commit ^^^
perhaps when I will check the perms..
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22919 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_flash.php: [FIX]FLASH: check perm if fileId [18:10]
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sylviegchangi|home: is it possible to reboot doc - because it is not responding since 2 hours [18:13]
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marclaportejonnyb : what feature do you want to add? [18:19]
chealerjonnyb: you need 2 preferences for the module to appear [18:20]
jonnybhi marclaporte - nothing
i don't commit untested code ;)
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marclaportewould like more restraint? [18:21]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22920 10/trunk/lib/ (8 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Grant higher privileges using a token for a single request [18:21]
sylviegsylvieg also that backporte untested feature ... is abusive [18:21]
jonnybindeed [18:21]
chealercongrats pascalstjean - have a beer while you're memorizing these shell skills [18:21]
jonnybchealer: which 2?
yes, hurrah for pascalstjean - they're letting off fireworks here in your honour! :)
brb
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chealerjonnyb: change_theme quite obviously, but also feature_userPreferences
jonnyb: sorry. I believe it was causing javascript errors (undefined $ IIRC). ah, I thought it was needed for mootools
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marclaportesylvieg: I like new ratings in trackers4 [18:25]
chealerjonnyb: I was debugging something in Firebug and noticed that
jonnyb: if you think that can break things, I'd encourage you to test what could be broken or tell me what to test. I'm very unsure about that commit
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jonnybthe idea was to setup jquery as $jq - switch it to $, include all the plugins (which expect it to be $) and then put it back to $jq
but if all the jq plugins work (which thet seem to) then we can leave it as it is - less code is usually better code
on switch theme - it should not need feature_userPreferences - i didn't use to. Maybe this is why anon can't use it?
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sylvieg+1 jonnyb [18:31]
jonnybi don't think it was that anyway - looks like $_SESSION['need_reload_prefs'] was never getting set to false in prefs.php
commit on it's way
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chealerjonnyb: ah, I see. I had understood the opposite. anyway, please ping me if you ever realize the commit causes trouble [18:34]
jonnybseem ok, doesn't it? (colorbox etc still working) [18:35]
chealeruh, yeah, I mean s/realize/notice/ [18:36]
jonnybsure - thanks [18:36]
chealerjonnyb: no, the anon switch theme regression was identified to a commit on a file which is not for the module. the bug report mentions it if dev.tw.o comes back [18:38]
marclaportemarclaporte is soon going to pack up and go to the airport. Anyone waiting for me for something? [18:39]
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nkothchangi|work: both dev and doc seem unreachable, any idea what happened? (can we reboot?) [18:41]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22921 10/branches/4.x/ (lib/setup/prefs.php tiki-switch_theme.php): [FIX] Switch theme for anonymous, and (hopefully) the mixing of options from one theme with the base of another both fixed. [18:44]
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chealerI got to say I don't understand switch_theme now. I'm looking at it [18:46]
jonnybit's very enigmatic
and there are strange unseen things that happen in tikilib, setup, prefs - all over the place
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22922 10/branches/4.x/tiki-switch_theme.php: [FIX] Set option back to site default for reg users
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22923 10/branches/4.x/templates/modules/mod-switch_theme.tpl: [FIX] Hide empty.css from switch theme module as it's not a real theme (and is ugly)
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macnificWhat are the news concerning Tikiwiki in Brazil? I have visited http://br.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php. There is no news. [19:21]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22924 10/branches/4.x/styles/ (layout/layout.css strasa.css):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Smaller text for antibot form so all the numbers can be seen.
tikiwiki: Also textarea width for Strasa corrected.
tikiwiki: TODO Change it to use divs one day.
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macnificI wrote to the webmaster. No answer.
I would like to collaborate with portuguese translations. Well. Should I do it inside Tikiwiki main site? Whos is coordinating interantional efforts?
I will be away in 15 minutes.
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jonnybhi macnific - sorry, i don't know, but there are some active Brazilian tiki people, just maybe not here now [19:24]
macnificOk. Just inform them I will be around here
how organized are they?
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jonnybrodrigo_sampaio is the only one i've met - he's offline now but here sometimes
not sure ow organised - apparently there's a tikifest planned for next year in Brazil
http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestBrazil&bl=y
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macnificI mean... where can I see their Tikiwiki organization work? I have just installed myself Tikiwiki and I would like to insert our website in the tikiwiki web list
OK. Thanks jonnyb
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jonnybsorry, no idea - i'm just a coder ;) [19:27]
marclaportemacnific http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestBrazil [19:28]
rodrigo_sampaiohi macnific! [19:28]
marclaporteah, Jonny was faster :-) [19:28]
rodrigo_sampaiomacnific: great that you want to help with portuguese translation [19:29]
macnificyesss. not only, but also in the TikiFest organization. [19:29]
rodrigo_sampaiomacnific: nice! [19:29]
macnificWhy not to include MG on that road. Let me be aware about details. I am glad had found Brazilian Tikiwiki people.
see you later guys ;)
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rodrigo_sampaiomacnific: please join the brazilian tikiwiki list [19:30]
macnificrodrigo_sampaio: see it and tell me later what you think: www.troquei.com [19:30]
rodrigo_sampaiomacnific: this is the place where you are going to find the tikiwiki brazilian community [19:31]
macnificI have been there already Rodrigo. I wrote to you a long time, I was waiting your answer. I am already registered
I am glad had met you here today.
I was looking for your help. As I did not get it I did all alone. hehehe ;)
there is a great future for us. And you can count on my help.
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rodrigo_sampaiomacnific: ok, so I think the best is to us to keep in contact using the list. if you can, please send an email to the list asking how to help with the translation and I will reply :) [19:34]
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jonnybmarclaporte: i've found a thing that i think i should add to 4.x, but it's sort of an [ENH] - adding the missing theme option selector on theme control by section and object - chibaguy has been asking me for them for ages - what do you think? :) [19:36]
marclaporte+1 [19:37]
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luciashre-polom [19:42]
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luciashluciash wishes others would spent as much time reading the irc log/scrollback carefully as him :-p [19:44]
Kimberleeafternoon all :) [19:45]
luciash15:09 < CIA-78> tikiwiki: sylvieg * r22903 → the comment is not true anymore since chibaguy added new global div wrapper called #fixedwidth to tiki.tpl
hello Kimberlee
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luciashsylvieg: ah, marc already fixed it by r22094 [19:50]
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chealerjonnyb: hum, you're right, there's a regression from Tiki 3 with switch theme requiring feature_userPreferences in trunk
I put this requirement because I thought switching theme required feature_userPreferences, but the fact that it does seems to be a bug
jonnyb: did you modify the tracker item for the anonymous switch theme bug you fixed?
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jonnybhi chealer - no, 'fraid not [19:55]
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chealerjonnyb: OK, I'll try remembering to do it when dev is back [19:56]
jonnybswitch theme copes with no feature_userPreferences for anon by using session
thanks
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chealerright [19:56]
luciashit should definitely not depend on it
as anon users should be able to switch themes too
it's long standing bug already
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jonnybi think i've fixed it all now - pls test [20:04]
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luciashjonnyb: thank you [20:05]
chealerjonnyb: um, fixed what? [20:06]
jonnybswitch theme for anon
it was a session s_prefs thing
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luciashdid you remove the feature_userPreferences dependency ? [20:07]
chealerjonnyb: works [20:07]
jonnybno [20:07]
luciash:( [20:08]
jonnybi didn't find one [20:08]
chealerluciash: I'm working on that [20:08]
luciash:) [20:08]
jonnybah, that must be in the module definition, y? [20:08]
chealerjonnyb: I did put a dependency on it in mod-func-switch_theme.php. [20:08]
jonnybwith you now [20:08]
chealerI'm trying to see where this regression could come from - tiki-switch_theme.php has little changes since 3
jonnyb: right
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luciashchealer: well, i think it was in tiki3 already, this problem [20:17]
chealerluciash: it doesn't seem to be (I'm testing on branch 3.0) [20:20]
luciashok [20:21]
I3igDmsuis there a way to collapse content under headings? when you click on the heading the content shows below? [20:21]
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luciashI3igDmsu: yes
use !+ Heading
or !- Heading
or FADE wikiplugin
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I3igDmsuthanks, and how about a table of contents at the top of a page? [20:29]
luciash{maketoc} [20:30]
marclaportemarclaporte goes to airport
marclaporte proud of whole Tiki team
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pascalstjean_BTW I just saw the updated Default theme with the fixed width :) I Like it [20:32]
luciashmarclaporte: have a comfortable flight [20:36]
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chealernkoth figured the problem with user preferences. the solution is non-trivial, I'm thinking about it [21:24]
I3igDmsuis the tikiwiki documentation site down for anyone else? [21:26]
Kimberleeyes
has been all day
:(
at least each time I have checked
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I3igDmsudoes anyone know an easy way to reduce the size of the font in the Heading? I am using the tikinewt theme.
Heading meaning the !, !! and !!! wiki page tags
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Caarrie|awaythe css for the heading [21:43]
I3igDmsuyeah, where can i find that? [21:44]
Caarrie|awaycheck the source for the page [21:44]
jonnybI3igDmsu: you put something like "h2 {font-size: .8em;}" in a new file called custom.css in your /styles directory (on the server) [21:45]
luciashnot for me
doc.tw.o
jonnyb: isn't it neccesary to put in styles/yourthemename/custom.css ???
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jonnybgood q luciash - possibly
it should work in the root though too (in an ideal world)
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luciashjonnyb: would need to be excluded from theme selection dropdown then [21:50]
jonnybindeed - never tried it though - might be handy for someone [21:51]
luciashluciash agrees, it's a limitation duplication for people who llow more than one theme [21:53]
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I3igDmsucan you override the 'p [22:24]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22926 10/branches/4.x/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Theme control rationlisation (a little more extensive than planned, but it was in a bit of mess)
tikiwiki: Stopped theme options being mixed with site option (also for tikidomain)
tikiwiki: Refactored and deployed options to tc by object and section
tikiwiki: Fixed articles listing
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I3igDmsu' in the custom.css also?
it doesnt seem to be working for me
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jonnyboh? I3igDmsu - it should work if h1 etc does. maybe a syntax error? (css very picky) [22:26]
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luciashI3igDmsu: .wikitext p {blahblah} [22:29]
jonnybdepends what the blahblah is ;) - try http://paste-it.net/ [22:30]
luciashjonnyb: ;) [22:30]
I3igDmsustill no luck with .wikitext p {font-size: 1.2em} [22:31]
luciashI3igDmsu: anyway i recommend directing it to the .wikitext selector
I3igDmsu: then last resort is .wikitext p {font-size: 1.2em !important}
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jonnybeverything is important in tiki :D [22:33]
I3igDmsustill nothing... hmm [22:33]
luciashI3igDmsu: then use firebug ;) [22:33]
I3igDmsuthe h1,h2,h3 worked find
fine*
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luciashare you sure you have p there ? and that the 1.2em size is significantly bigger than what tiki has by default ? [22:34]
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luciashor smaller if you are trying to achieve that
oups :-)
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I3igDmsuyup the 'p' is in there and the text is def smaller than that currently, i just tried 2.0em to make sure [22:36]
luciashand is it in wiki page ? [22:37]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22927 10/branches/4.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php: [FIX] Theme control for icons caching [22:44]
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I3igDmsuyeah in a wiki page [22:50]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22928 10/trunk/lib/ (newsletters/nllib.php setup/prefs.php): [NEW]newsletter: simple plugin to subscribe to a specific newsletter [22:58]
luciashis multiple select field possible in trackers ? [22:59]
sylviegno -need to go through categ [23:00]
luciashsylvieg: ah :/, thanks
and categ does the checkboxes only, right ?
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sylviegthere is multivalue for laguage but ti is very specific [23:01]
luciashi need multiple users select here [23:01]
sylvieg:-( [23:02]
luciashanyway, first i have to figure out here why in tracker plugin admins are not pre-selected in the user selector dropdown :-[23:04] * luciash looking into tracker_item_field_input.tpl now [23:03]
sylviegis it a user selector creator or modif?
if no - not sure there is a perselected
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luciashcreator
1
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sylviegok - should be [23:05]
luciashit works in new tracker item in trackers but not via tracker plugin [23:05]
sylviegcode duplication ... if one day tracker has no codce duplication wil be happy
(I am not the culprit)
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luciashluciash neither ;) [23:06]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22929 10/branches/4.x/modules/mod-func-switch_theme.php: [FIX] don't depend on feature_userPreferences, which isn't required after all [23:07]
sylviegwhen I began to go into the trackers - there was already 3 different versions of the same caode [23:07]
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luciashi think i see the bug [23:09]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22930 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]newsletter: simple plugin to subscribe to a specific newsletter [23:11]
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luciashyep, just fixed it here... i will have a look if it's in trunk still [23:14]
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luciashsylvieg: at least it is nicely indented and separated with comment marks ;) [23:17]
sylvieg:-) [23:17]
mlaportepolom [23:21]
jonnybhey mlaporte - thought you were in the air? [23:21]
mlaportewiating for plane
leaving in 25 min
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jonnybnice :) [23:21]
mlaportesoon, it will be your turn [23:22]
jonnybi'll be off-air more or less until i see you - sunday sometime i think
yy
what's the deal in montreal - bus/train from airport?
and where do you live (etc)
can you mail me some info when you have time? (i.e. not now)
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mlaportesure [23:25]
jonnybthx
last commits of the night coming shortly...
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22931 10/branches/4.x/ (lib/themecontrol/tcontrol.php tiki-theme_control_objects.php): [MOD] Theme control - show all controlled objects by default [23:26]
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22932 10/branches/4.x/tiki-tc.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Use lowest level theme only for nested theme controlled objects (i.e. object in section in category).
tikiwiki: Using $tikilib->get_style_path for tikidomain etc resolution.
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sylviegmlaporte: is the montreal tiihouse [23:29]
mlaportemy house is a tikihouse :-)
but maybe Pascal will have one too
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22933 10/trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_input.tpl: [FIX] tracker wikiplugin: when admin preselect username from the user selector dropdown (for user option 1 = creator) when creating new item [23:33]
sylviegwhoa I have a follow for trackers code [23:34]
mlaporte:-)
trackers rock
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CIA-78tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22934 10/branches/4.x/templates/tracker_item_field_input.tpl: [bp/r22933][FIX] tracker wikiplugin: when admin preselect username from the user selector dropdown (for user option 1 = creator) when creating new item [23:37]
mlaportesylvieg rocks [23:37]
sylviegluciash rocks ;-) [23:37]
luciashhahah ! :) [23:38]
jonnybigneous rocks [23:38]
sylvieg:-) [23:38]
mlaportedoes this schedule look ok? http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal4
not sure when to do cocktail: http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal4Cocktail
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luciashjonnyb: there goes comfortable bus to central city bus station rather frequently for CAD $25 iirc... but it depends where mark's house is
so maybe not valid option
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jonnybhe mailed talking about busses and trains and lots of confusing stuff, so it'll be a taxi [23:44]
luciashhaha :D [23:45]
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jonnybyou may laugh Mr D'Being, it's going to be a long weekend... [23:50]
luciashi hope you will enjoy (the cocktail at least) :) [23:52]
CIA-78tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22935 10/branches/4.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Switch Theme module now copes with theme control overrides (can't change them yet though - TODO) [23:53]
jonnybhopefully not too many ;) [23:53]
sylvieghow many degrees in Montreal these days? [23:55]
jonnybhi sylvieg - more than in Oslo
sylvieg: i just trying to clear my proposed stuff before the trip - r22733 - you remove an update in tiki.sql but leave loads of others, is that really worth it? (i would prefer no db changes in minor releases)
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jonnybor have i misunderstood? [23:57]
sylvieg22733? [23:58]
jonnybyup, 29th oct
it refers to 15091 which was a commit to trunk by LP
(last year)
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