no, you can be anonymous there
you just maybe have to scroll down a bit ?
luciash, ah, ok, I'm getting to understand how it works...
and how do you add new pages to the mindmap?
can you? (as registered maybe?)
they are added automatically
redflo : so problem is for all pagination?  not just for wiki page listing?
it's like a sitemap of wiki pages
mmmm, ok, then, it's not good to draw mind-maps...
i think it is simmilar to the wiki3D
just to show as mind map a bunch of wiki pages....
marclaporte: hotfix is only for wiki pages
no, you cannot draw them, it just displays connections between wiki pages
xavi ^
but the problem should be the same
for all objects
I was used to draw mind maps with freemind.... and I thought that mindmap could allow to design mindmaps, not just display connections of pages...
xavi: unfortunatelly it seems not
if you have many objects, you can get a performance problem, because - as luciash said: you need to load all objects to decide what objects you can see
anyway, thanks for the information, luciash.
g'night all (bed time here)
luciash : how about fixed width for the installer?
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22970 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] remove __v__ which is not translatable and not necessary.
i assume folks realize that doc & dev are down?
been unstable since Tiki4 upgrade
Dogfood is not always fun :-)
could a static index.html page be added?
at least let folks know that we're aware of the problem?
just a thought
great idea
also to announce Tiki4
Beta is out
should send a status msg on @tikiwiki_org, too
ricks99 : I intentionally do not have access to those servers because my plate is full with profiles & info
amette and changi are the people in charge
redflo1 committed a fix intended to alleviate load
i understand. *who* has access? im just saying it 
looks bad to have main sites down with no explanation
explanation can be on info
y, but does no good for folks who click (?) in tikiwiki admin pages :(
worse than that ricks99
I have bugs to file
and work to do
(we all do)
or folks who try to access relnotes from installer (goes to dev.tw.o)
and dev.tw.o is down
killing dev.tw.o is one way to stop bugs, eh?
lol
LOL
who owns tikiwiki_org twitter account? might be useful to send a msg
hmmm, I think Regis and maybe xavi are sharing that
what is interesting: tikiwiki.org is surviving load but not dev & doc
I wonder what is the difference of features, load and how the server is setup
tikiwiki.org = info.tw.o ? there's hardly anything on there
tikiwiki.org /= info.tw.o
duh. sorry
brain freeze
:-)
doc.tikiwiki.org doesn't work 99% of the time when I try to access it. Any idea where else I can obtain documentation (mostly syntax)?
doc.tw.o is currently down. try http://twbasics.keycontent.org :-)
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r22971 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_code.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Eliminate use of TikiLib::htmldecode for highlighted code - it was causing
tikiwiki: html entities to be processed (non-highlighted was ok). Also slight changes to
tikiwiki: GeSHi line numbering formatting and now able to select code from screen without
tikiwiki: the line numbers for copying and pasting when using GeSHi.
ricks99, thanks, i found that site and i've been using it but it doesn't have as extensive information regarding syntax as doc.tiki has.
u can also get a list of syntax (tho, not complete) by clicking HELP when editing a wiki page
i just can't the FANCYTABLE to work right! :S
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22972 10/branches/4.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] We should try to use fixed width css for installer, error messages, etc, since there is very little info on the page. TODO: templates need to be adjusted to have div id=fixedwidth
Val_0: what's the problem?
you can always just look at the SERP cached copy of whatever file u are looking for in a pinch
lindon, i am trying to make my "home page" to use the FancyTable layout and I have 2 issues. I want to make all the cells in a row to be the same width and the HEADER to be in the center above the table if that makes any sense
i don't believe you can control column widths with fancytable 
google the page and look at the cached copy, it works better in Mozilla
not sure what you meant on the header
Kimberlee, thanks!
yep
@Val_0: to set the width, place a {DIV} inside the cell
lindon_,  sorry i meant "head="
i.e. is very slow to load the cache
{DIV(width="200px")}.....{DIV} will force the first column to 200px
ricks99, awesome, thanks, i am going to try that. Thanks everyone... appreciate all the help!
ricks99, the {DIV} forces the contents of the column to specified width but not the "background" of the column 
or the fancytable column itself
don't understand what "background of column" means?
{FANCYTABLE(head="test")}((1))~|~((2))~|~((3)){FANCYTABLE} the width of column "1" is far greater than the rest...
you'll need 3 columns for your header too
not sure if that's your issue, but noticed it in your code
head="test1 ~|~ test2 ~|~ test3"
hmm let me try 1 sec
What i am trying to achieve: to have a title: Test, underneath it 3 columns of even width...
don't use a head. just add it as a line of text above the table
with 4.0 the head will be able to span columns, but not before
oh ok, thank you
Val_0: you can also use normal table syntax (it will span at least the last columns in row) and make their background colored using divs in it with bgcolor
or class=odd or even
as a workaround ;)
oh ok, thanks i'll try that
is there a way to change the default colour for a visited/non visit globally?
link*
probably in "edit css", an admin feature you can activate in the look and feel admin panel
cool thanks, i'll look there... any idea why doc. doesn't work all too well?
it's been unstable since they upgraded it for the pre-release 4.0 version
ricks99 : http://info.tikiwiki.org/article78
but this is very unusual
Val_0: put in your styles/yourtheme/custom.css
lol that's not cool... thanks luciash 
Val_0: a:visited, a:visited:hover {color: #abc} a {color: #def}
ok
luciash, thanks i'll try now
hi pkdille
polom
changi|upDevDoc : so latest patch does the job?
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22973 10/branches/4.x/templates/ (database-connection-error.tpl tiki-install.tpl): [ENH] Divs added for fixed width.
toctoc
tw.o needs upgrading its db
marclaporte and ricks99 : (after reading the latest irc log messages) I have nothing to do with twitter (I don't even have an account, afair). Maybe Regis or others...
ok
ohertel or sylvieg (or someone with access to tw.o server): tw.o needs a db upgrade
and yesterday, ohertel rose tw.o memory limit to 128 Mb in order to make it work regardless of the memory issue
bt I've just checked that and it's back at 32 Mb...
so no idea why tw.o is working, and not dev.tw.o , etc.
mmm, marclaporte: "MultiDomain" (under admin home > general). No idea what is that. Is there any documentation somewhere about it?
and another issue on tw.o: pages with flash video report to anonymous users that flash player is not available, while it is indeed. If you log in tiki, the same page shows the video with no problem. Reproduced using firefox 3.5.4 and epiphany (under gnu/linux)
example of that issue with pages with flash video for anons: http://tikiwiki.org/TikiLiveCD
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22974 10/branches/4.x/styles/strasa/options/ (fixed_width/body-bg.png fixed_width.css): [ENH] Changed fixed-width body background color and image so site content stands out more (after discussion with luci).
mmm, strange: however, this page show the videos with no issue to anons: http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFest
s/show/shows
weird
also, why does tw.o refresh to tiki-forums.php when you log out? (I was going to check anon view of flash player.) is tiki-forums.php set as site index?
yes, chibaguy, ohertel did that yesterday, I guess, after the memory consumption issue with tw.o homepage
btw, the flash player works for anonymous when using Opera 10.
checking
this is on windows. I don't know if it's different on linux.
marclaporte, are you aware of other .tpls that could use the fixed_width div? I found error_simple.tpl and others that also show the full page.
mmm, chibaguy, I see the same issue on opera (on gnu/linux)
can you confirm that at the http://tikiwiki.org/TikiLiveCD you can see the video just below this test: "Bonus: See the video showing how it was upgraded from a previous TikiLiveCD!" ?
oh, good catch about error.tpl
yes, I see the video in that place (where's my big blue button live desktop? ;-)
http://demo.tikiwiki.org/4x/tiki-install.php -> before login, it's still ugly
yeah, that page doesn't get any stylesheets, I think. Only styles in that php file.
But it's only a utilitarian info page. I don't know how beautiful it needs to be.
chibaguy: ok, then, the issue must be then just on gnu/linux
bbb :-)
ok
marclaporte : yes
you just need to svn up :)
I wonder what is the purpose of templates/information.tpl. It is similar to the error tpls.
hmm, error_ticket.tpl uses old pre-lite.css table layout. Seems like it should be consistent with tiki.tpl.
hello
white screen of death while installing tikiwiki
any help?
.help
>help
(help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
rubial, first thing to check is how much php memory your server has.
my hosting is in webfaction
i ms ure its enough
how can i increase it..
i know the drupal way by editing .htacess file
but not sure for tikiwiki..
here's some info: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Requirements
bbl
chibaguy: thnks
it doent seems to be memory issue
chibaguy: some installation file may be missing
will check it
ok. see also tikiwiki.org/art82 (and comments) about memory.
if that could be the problem.
apparently editing .htaccess works with tikiwiki also.
hi
community site now on Tiki 4 and images disappeared from some pages like here http://tikiwiki.org/InfoTikiWikiOrgDev&bl=n
gezza: hi
I guess it is beacuse of the new IMG plugin
does someone know how to fix this in bulk?
no idea
new to tikiwiki
I think this should be addressed in the Tiki4 release notes somehow, I have some sites using many images, would be a pain to upgrade each image one-by-one
hi
is there any other mirror where i can get this live cd iso?
rediris.es is not responding.. :(
doubleclick: hold on... 
i managed to open http://info-mac.rediris.es/pub/mirror/gclub/
but when i try to download i get "timed out" every time
doubleclick: get latest TikiLiveCD from here temporarily: ftp://ftp.ourproject.org/pub/gclub/Slax-TikiLiveCD_v0.5a.iso
it is just tiki 3.0beta1
xavi: thanks
but it looks like it's going to take a while :)
:-)
am i allowed to use more threads?
if you have access to any other (and faster) server to host those iso', you are welcome to share :-)
more threads? try, I would say
no idea
doubleclick: what's your name?
what's my name? :)
ivan
why? :)
curiosity. I hope you enjoy the TikiLiveCD, Ivan
doubleclick sounded too anonymous to me
oh, ok :)
and i already know i _will_ enjoy it
:)
i just need this live version to do some "presentation"
it's easier that way i don't need to install apache all that on those computers...
live version is a really great idea, nice job
thanks, doubleclick
nice job with the fixed width option of strasa at doc.tw.o!
marclaporte: alias is doing weird things on tiki4... try to edit http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=MindMap , for instance
oh, gosh, I can't edit the page anymore... :-/
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/RoadMap -> Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiDate::getDate() in /home/tiki/public_html/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_countdown.php on line 60
I did say it would be a bumpy road
yes, yes, I know...
at least we can report "bumps" at dev.tw.o again ;-)
oh, download is finally over :)
thanks again xavi 
welcome. There are many hours on that iso file (and previous versions)
you should be able to easily do svn up on the pre installed tiki3
yes, i see
you guys are doing a very good job :)
thanks
after spending 2 days on wikimatrix.org i finally found what i was looking for :)
2 days!
and i must say i'm pretty impressed after reading this huge tikiwiki feature list 
marclaporte: ok, i'm lazy :))))
and i had some other thing to do.. :)
besides i had quite a few requirements..
and wikimatrix comparison table doesn't say *everything*
mmmm, marclaporte: fyi. After upgrade to Tiki4, doc.tw.o is still unable to print the whole Documentation structure
it shows just the page of pluginfootnote
well, it also complained with a similar error to yours about the plugin countdown. But when disabled that plugin, tiki multiprint showed something
and tried also disabling pluginfootnot* plugins, but no change to me. Unable to print the whole documentation structure from http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Documentation
doubleclick : I don't think such a table exists
marclaporte & changi|tuning: moreover, maybe some rewrite rules are missing at dev.tw.o? see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug516
it used to rewrite to tracker item id, i.e. http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=516 , but nowadays, it doesn't
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish516 this used to work indeed
so we just need to say changi|tuning until his computer beeps :-)
it doesn't work either nowadays
:-)
doubleclick  : http://tikiwiki.org/model
marclaporte: the table exists at wikimatrix
you choose wikis, and  they display "some" (many, but not all) features and specs. from the wikis you selected
xavi : it doesn't come close to covering all Tiki features
marclaporte: if you find a feature alias hacker at the tiki fest... I'd wish to upload some images at the doc page MindMap and I can't nowadays
I wrote on devlist
marclaporte: I know. not all features from tiki, nor other big wiki engines, probably
suggest you ping Alain Desilets for this
ok
marclaporte: quick check. Resize text_areas is not working on firefox under gnu/linux. Can you confirm whether it works on windows browsers ? (firefox and ie?)
I'm just writing about it at doc.tw.o/Tiki4 page
easy test: check the shoutbox text area
ping
pong
need something ? 
see above the issue with rewrite rules, changi|tuning
htaccess is uptodate from branches/4.x
moreover, changi|tuning, lindon requested a few days ago if geshi could be installed in doc.tw.o. See http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginCode
it used to be installed in former doc.tw.o site (when somers had access to the site)
htaccess: it used to have a rewrite rule for bugN and wishN on dev.tw.o. I guess, then, that it was hand made....
I wonder what's the best way to proceed: to add new rules on the common rewrite rules from tiki trunk, or to manually add those new rules on a custom htaccess file on the dev.tw.o site
just put the old one
know it works
s/know/now/
yes, confirmed! thanks changi|tuning (that was fast)
what about geshi?
argh... marclaporte, fyi: inserting images into doc.tw.o is broken (at least from firefox under gnu/linux) :-/
as the OS is not my favorite one, have we a doc for manual installation ? 
:-( no more documentation images from me, maybe
xavi: about htaccess customization: http://tikiwiki.org/Infrastructure+Team#Maintain_list_of_hacks_adaptations_to_Tiki_sites_or_use_SVN_or_TRIM.
changi|tuning: I installed on former doc.tw.o and it was just copying to the right place...
afair
xavi: don't understand on former ? 
on former doc.tw.o server
(a couple of years ago, or so). I just copied the file on the server at the place reported by geshi documentation
bbl
ok
oh. f*ck, inserting tracker items is broken to me!!!!
I've reported 4  of them (at least), and al of them get the same id 516!
and they don't appear at the tracker5 list as new tracker items!
:-(
bbl
ll
does geshi work ? 
on doc
?
xavi : check mail
marclaporte: which css was deleted ? 
i made a svn up
are you talking about fixed.css ? 
yes
was renamed to fixed_width.css
thus, svn up should get rid of it
xavi : you found one of the most weird bugs ever.  Congratulations!!
I am guessing you are not amused though
ok my fault,
let's blame the weather
or horoscope :-)
lol
just correct
could someone try and say if geshi work ? 
marclaporte: fix on doc and dev
changi|tuning : where are the images?
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/img/wiki_up/Commit-CheckedOut1.jpg is missing from http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Commit
bac
back
bbl
changi: geshi is working
but it would be better to use the latest stable version
1.0.8.4
the latest dev version seems to be missing a lot of languages and functionality
thanks so much for installing though :)
the stable version on works great
might even add tiki syntax as a language
:-)
lindon_ : you arriving soon?
yes!
wed noght i think - let me look
sorry, i arrive thursday morning at 10:17
depart sunday at 1:25pm
:-)
alone?
yes!
not a bad idea to put travel info on wiki page http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal4
will do
as soon as you arrive, we look at plugin aliases
good idea
does your offer still stand?
to stay at my place?
yes, if i may be so bold toask
lindon_ : I will figure something out
ok, can stay elsewhere if needed
i know this is late notice
back
reading back log
and email
lindon_: better you stay here
excellent!
thanks so much :)
have space, just need a mattress
tiki4 is looking shaping up. is it a bug or by design that I can't switch between wysiwyg and the regular editor?
or bad UI?
as of now, perhaps it's a bug
but for the future, perhaps tagging some pages as wiki, and some others as WYSIWYG  -> this could be a feature
:-( another bug I did just hit
what happens is as soon as I open a page in wysiwyg, wiki-syntax (e.g. ! and (())) gets converted to html (<h1> and <a href>)
Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Mail_Transport_Exception' with message 'Unable to send mail' in /home/tiki/public_html/lib/core/lib/Zend/Mail/Transport/Sendmail.php:105 Stack trace: #0 /home/tiki/public_html/lib/core/lib/Zend/Mail/Transport/Abstract.php(348): Zend_Mail_Transport_Sendmail->_sendMail() #1 /home/tiki/public_html/lib/core/lib/Zend/Mail.php(973): Zend_Mail_Transport_Abstract->send(Object(Zend_Mail)) #2 /home/tiki/public_html/lib/mail/mailli
b.php(108): Zend_Mail->send() #3 /home/tiki/public_html/lib/notifications/notificationemaillib.php(289): tiki_send_admin_mail('', 'Xavi', 'Wiki page Plugi...', 'The page Plugin...') #4 /home/tiki/public_html/lib/tikilib.php(7543): sendWikiEmailNotification('wiki_page_chang...', 'PluginCode', 'xavi', 'testing geshi', '24', '! Plugin Code??...', 'http://doc.tiki...', Array, 0, '') #5 /home/tiki/public_html/tiki-editpage.php(981): TikiLib->update_page('PluginCo
de', '! Plugin Code??...', 'testing geshi', 'xavi', '77.228.161.152', 'Allows code to ...', 0, 'en', false, Array in /home/tiki/public_html/lib/core/lib/Zend/Mail/Transport/Sendmail.php on line 105
sorry for the long output...
i think it's my fault
i just make an upgrade
on doc
catching them bugs!
thanks mlaporte for the copy of the lost bug reports
did someone know where is the admin panel for features link ? 
 /help Basic IRC Commands
woops!
changi:  tiki-admin.php?page=features  ?
mmm, another bug? :-/ is it only me who is touching so many bugs at each single action I attempt to do? :-)
I attempted to upload 3 images to a file gallery in doc.tw.o
and I got three answers saying the same, as if the image was already there... (and I had previously attempted to upload 1 of them through a wiki page image upload (which didn't do anything on that wiki page, as far as I could see)
I just got right now:
Upload was not successful. Duplicate file content: tiki4_resize_text_area_wiki.png
Upload was not successful. Duplicate file content: tiki4_resize_text_area.png
Upload was not successful. Duplicate file content: tiki3_mindmap_commented_00.png
:-/
"bumpy road"...
 it was a week end to have family visiting - too menay problem on the deevl list :-(
sorry it was a bad we for me
sylvieg : I hope it's better now
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r22975 10/branches/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_code.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Eliminate use of TikiLib::htmldecode for highlighted code - it was causing
tikiwiki: html entities to be processed (non-highlighted was ok). Also slight changes to
tikiwiki: GeSHi line numbering formatting and now able to select code from screen without
tikiwiki: the line numbers for copying and pasting when using GeSHi.
- can not anymore change theme option in swithc theme :-(
hi sylvieg. I hope you enjoyed your weekend with the family visiting ! and welcome to the bumpy roads! :-)
btw, confirmed that file upload to doc.tw.o fails to me: file renamed in local to a new name, upload file, and doc.tw.o complains that file duplicated...
enough bug finding for me so far. I did my best testing tiki4 & bug reporting & a few screenshots (not uploaded)... good luck for the next days (I don't expect to have time to contribute much more).
keep up the good work with tiki4!
cheers
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22976 10/branches/4.x/templates/modules/mod-switch_theme.tpl: [FIX]theme option: fix 22935: style option was not checked any more
has somebody more idea about the tracker problem on dev?
I can not reproduce the rewrite...
seems somebody find out why doc was slow..
is it onlt the likst pages...
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22977 10/branches/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_html.php: notice
sylvieg : did you see report about tracker data corruption on dev?
that you rewrite the item again and again?
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22978 10/branches/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_html.php: notice
yes, trackeritem overwrite
just log a bug
I tested
What do I have to do? create 2 items one after the other?
just log a bug
from here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=5
ok got the bug ... ouah ? I do not this on my local...
dunno if related but check dev as anonymous. Some modules are duplicated
when showing, but in admin modules, all is normal
sylvieg: do you see the module bug?
t
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