#tikiwiki 2009-11-21,Sat

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Who	What	When
jonnyb	ageed nkoth - woos's error sounded like a file one if anything	[00:00]
nkoth	woos: maybe you can manually check if the user/pw pair in db/local.php has access to the db in question (although I can't see why it can't access now since it ran queries earlier)	[00:00]
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nkoth	maybe instead of localhost, you can try 127.0.0.1 just a hunch	[00:01]
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woos	nkoth: well I checked the db/pass combo agaist the db (logged into it with mysaladmin and no problems there.	[00:01]
nkoth	meaning in local.php replace localhost with 127.0.0.2 i mean .1	[00:02]
jonnyb	woos: what are you installing on? windows? linux? etc	[00:02]
woos	linux, I'll get the version info in a sec.	[00:03]
jonnyb	ok (bang goes those suspicions!)	[00:03]
woos	127.0.0.1 - no good, Versions are : mysql5.0.82 and php 5.2.10. also tiki 3.x works fine.	[00:04]
nkoth	try replacing localhost with 127.0.0.1:3306 instead is mysql listening on port 3306?	[00:05]
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woos	SQLSTATE[HY000] [2005] Unknown MySQL server host '127.0.0.1:3306' (3)	[00:06]
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woos	yea, dosen't like anything port. Looks like the system is setup with a remote access port of 3307. I tried that on a wim, and even enabled Remote sql access. No luck I didn't have to modify tiki 3, in case you were wondering. Also my webhost has a blub about using localhost:/tmp/mysql5.sock thou I never had to Im gonna guess and say if 3306 is the default mysql port, then yes	[00:09]
nkoth	trying to see if http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/access-denied.html has any tips	[00:13]
woos	looking	[00:14]
nkoth	If everything else fails, start the mysqld server with a debugging option (for example, --debug=d,general,query). This prints host and user information about attempted connections, as well as information about each command issued. (from the page) or maybe you can try grant all to the different "variants" of that user@host combination if you do figure this out, please let us know how it got fixed (and what distro of linux you are using)	[00:14]
jonnyb	woos: you could always skip the "lock and enter" bit and see if the tiki is there (then disable the installer manually) but yes, if you find the fix let us know pls :)	[00:19]
woos	I will :), Its been frustrating..	[00:20]
jonnyb	nite nite all	[00:21]
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woos	hey, is there a way to have tiki use socks? or am I asking that wrong	[00:25]
Sug4r	You're kidding, right?	[00:25]
nkoth	gtg	[00:31]
woos	ok I did some more digging. mysql5 is on port 3307. the mysql6 server is on 3306	[00:31]
nkoth	default is 3306 afaik	[00:32]
woos	you know how to change it in tiki?	[00:33]
nkoth	well, tiki4 I think uses PDO by default while tiki3 used to use ADOdb ...	[00:35]
woos	it looks like the PDO drivers here are mysql, sqlite, sqlite2	[00:37]
nkoth	well	[00:37]
woos	also I found this...'--with-pdo-mysql=/usr/local/mysql5	[00:38]
nkoth	well, in db/tiki-db-pdo.php I see some comments about setting sockets instead of host but I've never tried that and don't know if it will work	[00:38]
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woos	dang, you the man nkoth!!!	[00:41]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2883 - - feature_mindmap - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2883	[00:42]
woos	I added $socket_tiki = '/tmp/mysql5.sock'; to the local.php file and all is fine	[00:42]
nkoth	this is useful info somewhere on a wiki - are you a "contributor" to doc.tikiwiki.org?	[00:43]
woos	no im not. Ive only started using tiki a few months ago. I'm realy Green at it :)	[00:44]
nkoth	well, if you have time just create a page link to Installation or something maybe to a comment. Otherwise I have to remember to di this - i gtg right now	[00:45]
woos	alrighty. thanks for your help!	[00:46]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	Info: TikiFest NY - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article80	[05:16]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23418 10/branches/4.x/styles/layout/ (layout-reference.css layout.css): [FIX] Keep language selector and actions icons on one line, to help avoid overlap with article text.	[06:12]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23419 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic: some work in admin wiki template	[06:58]
olinuxx	hi here, is there somebody up ? on the homepage of LinuxMAO : http://www.linuxmao.org/tikiwiki/ on the left, there are some "Box" : Débuter Les logiciels O.S. ...	[07:00]
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olinuxx	I've the right (the rules ?) for change menus (tiki-admin_menus.php) Ad I changed O.S. by "Le système GNU/Linux : notre O.S." (4 or 5 days ago) but it doesn't appear ... So what's wrong ?	[07:03]
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coaboa	Could you see the menu blcok @ all or is just one entry missing (good morning btw)	[07:44]
olinuxx	coaboa: good morning too :) I'm not sure to understand. the bloc exist, i can see it but he's got the bad name in menu administration, it's name is "Le système GNU/Linux : notre O.S." in the page (on the web), it's name is "O.S." (old one) you can see it on http://www.linuxMAO.org	[07:54]
coaboa	do you see the menu as admin? did you assigned the perms to the module block? I made a module with this title (nearly ;-)) at aevermann.com which version do you use?	[08:03]
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Kimberliee	morning.	[08:13]
coaboa	good morning olinux: yought only changed the modules name and fogot to change the Title?	[08:15]
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olinuxx	coaboa: non, i don't see the module as admin, because, i'm not admin :P strange because i can change the name, but it's not take at the final ...	[08:22]
coaboa	mybe you have to clear cache (if got perms to) but usuly the change takes effect imidiately	[08:23]
olinuxx	ok thanks	[08:24]
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Kimberliee	is there a way to embed a survey in a wiki page?	[12:07]
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xavi	Kimberliee: using {HTML()} plugin you can embeed any external survey (survey monkey, etc.), or you can embed internal surveys (using survey feature or trackers throgh tracker plugins)	[12:11]
Kimberliee	thanks xavi!! :)	[12:17]
xavi	welcome :-)	[12:17]
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FF\|Skyrider	Anyone alive here? Why do I keep getting "Account disabled" When I try to login?	[12:34]
xavi	good question, FF\|Skyrider, no idea , and I saw something similar with my students on a tiki 3.1 (by then) when they first registered maybe 4 out of 20... and dunno what happened...	[12:35]
FF\|Skyrider	" Account validated successfully. " ... This is the third time I activated my account. On the same account	[12:35]
xavi	they just chose another username, registered 5 min later, and it worked in case it helps but this looks like an odd bug to me...	[12:36]
FF\|Skyrider	I rather pick a single username :p The login/activation system is bugged it seems This was one of the reasons why I chose for another wiki :-[12:36] <xavi> if you could fill in a bug report with details for your problem... that would be great can't really hassle with issues like this personally.	[12:36]
xavi	"another wiki" = Tiki?	[12:37]
FF\|Skyrider	mediawiki But I also dislike that one	[12:37]
xavi	where do you get that prolem? tw.o? problem	[12:37]
FF\|Skyrider	tw.o? oh yea and on our site as well when we had tikiwiki installed few users complained about it That was months ago	[12:37]
xavi	and which is your username there? what type of usernames where yoiu using? special characters?	[12:38]
FF\|Skyrider	Nope, the problem having the issue had the name harsens I have FFSkyrider No symbols what so ever.	[12:38]
xavi	ok, is that fine If I just delete that account at tw.o and you do it again? you register again, I mean (hopefully it will work this time)	[12:39]
FF\|Skyrider	What will happen to my posts? :p; oh, xavi I replied to your posts btw *post http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35313&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_asc	[12:40]
xavi	ah, ok, so you did register and logged in successfully in the past, that's what you mean, isn't it? I thought you could never log in successfully	[12:41]
FF\|Skyrider	I can login if I use the activation link in my email	[12:41]
xavi	mmm, maybe your ip is similar to some of the banned ip? can you tell me your ip?	[12:41]
FF\|Skyrider	There.. I logged out Tried to login Getting "Account disabled " --> When I try to use the activation link again: --> Account validated successfully. And I'm logged in again when I try to logout again, I get the same issue.	[12:42]
xavi	ok, no problem with your ip (as far as the banning feature is involved)	[12:46]
coaboa	for me it the same. I had a chance t login yesterday with the reg email. Posted a userpage (coaboa) logged out and now have Invalifd usernam or passwd message. sometime the account disabled messige shows up too	[12:46]
FF\|Skyrider	I think this has to do with account activation. It's not working properly if you ask me :0	[12:47]
xavi	ok, this looks like a proper bug. Sorry out of my skills how to fix it. if you could fill in a bug report... that's different to what happened to my students using tiki 3.x	[12:48]
coaboa	without login in its quite impossible to file a bug, isn't it? ;-)	[12:49]
sylvieg	I noticed the bug yesterday on tw.org - will try to fix it today	[12:50]
coaboa	that why I gave up on feature request yesterday.	[12:50]
FF\|Skyrider	coaboa I can login Only if I use the activation link, that forces me to login automatic But once the cookie (login) expires, I have to use the link again	[12:51]
coaboa	ok missed that workaround.	[12:52]
FF\|Skyrider	I assume this issue is also in TikiWiki 4?	[12:52]
xavi	sylvieg (hi), is there a way to manually (as admin) validate accounts of users? I reacall seing this feature somewhere.... but I can't find it nowadays at current tw.o	[12:52]
sylvieg	It was but I deleted for the release becasue it was bug after the security hole with the clear passwords	[12:54]
coaboa	cool. with the activation mail login works.	[12:54]
FF\|Skyrider	:p Now I still have the SMTP issue.	[12:55]
sylvieg	sylvieg still does not understand why it is working on her local but on tw.org	[12:55]
FF\|Skyrider	For some reason, it doesn't work :s	[12:55]
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xavi	Forums in tw.o are bugged!: "Notice: this variable may not be empty: $_POST["thread_sort_mode"]" :-/ "bumpy road"...	[12:59]
FF\|Skyrider	Yea xavi Had that message twice yesterday when posting replies very annoying :p So... About this loggin issue :s *Login When it is going to be fixed, when will the next release be? I rather not install tikiwiki atm because of the issue	[13:03]
marclaporte	FF\|Skyrider : do you have a clear write up of how to reproduce the issue? (including on which version)	[13:12]
FF\|Skyrider	errr what version is tw.o using? It was many months ago since I last installed tikiwiki. So I believe it was the newly version 3.0	[13:13]
marclaporte	it's written at the bottomon the the page	[13:13]
FF\|Skyrider	4.0 :p well, if tw.o has it, then... I most likely will as well for the other users.	[13:14]
marclaporte	yes, but need to know if this bug affects 3.3 between 3.x and 4.x, there are important changes in login system	[13:14]
FF\|Skyrider	Well, I had the exact same account disabled issue on 3.x	[13:16]
marclaporte	so please indicate all this in http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Report+a+Bug put priority 9	[13:17]
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xavi	sylvieg, fyi, editing tiki sheets at tw.o don't keep the changes made (no error nor warning message shown; everything apparently ok). But no sign of the changes made, not in the sheet, nor in the history of tiki sheet. sylvieg ^Do you want me to fill in a bug report for this?	[13:22]
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coaboa	my problem is that i can login to tikiwiki.org (with the link submited in confirmation mail) but when switching over to dev.tikiwik.org I'm logged out again.	[13:39]
marclaporte	coaboa : you need to login to each site	[13:44]
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luciash	polom polom	[14:07]
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xavi	sylvieg , fyi, the one related to the spreadsheet not saving changes nor shown in history: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2884	[14:19]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2884 - - 4.0: editing tiki sheets at tw.o don't keep the changes made - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2884	[14:22]
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FF\|Skyrider	marclaporte Can I use the same user/pass on dev.tikiwiki.org for the bug report as on tikiwiki.org?	[14:37]
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marclaporte	yes	[15:13]
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FF\|Skyrider	Ehm... marclaporte? This I find, very odd. I try to login at: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-login_scr.php Getting: Account disabled Which is already known, right? But when I try to login at: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-login.php Getting: XMLRPC Error: 101 - Invalid username or password	[16:10]
marclaporte	if you can't report bug on dev.tw.o, please email to dev list Account disabled: Which is already known, right? -> I don't know. Do you see a bug report for this?	[16:13]
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FF\|Skyrider	And which email would that be?	[16:32]
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coaboa_	marclaporte: yes i know i have to login to dev.tw.o seperatrly. but this won't work (account disabled or xmlrpc error wrong passwd) but with auth.email.link i logged in. but not to dev.tw.o where i would like to submit this login bug and my feature requests (which now are only on my userhomepage.	[16:53]
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lindon_	to do so, go to http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php and click on Developers under Mailing Lists in the left hand menu	[17:03]
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luciash	lindon_: hi, "to do so" ? a mischan ? are you typing in the right window ?	[17:19]
xavi	I'm wondering how to set up a tracker in order to make that each user can only see his own record I managed to do that with tiki 2.4 but after I upgradeed to tiki 3.3, that behavior was lost	[17:21]
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xavi	and now users (my students) can see the names of the other students in the tracker, at the items list, even if they cannot see the content of the other items... (from the other students), just their name it's a wysiwyca issue	[17:22]
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xavi	but I don't know how to solve it (I recall that this was working well in tiki 2.4)	[17:23]
luciash	xavi: hmm, yep, sounds like a bug xavi: workaround would be disable tiki_p_list_trackers or something and use trackerlist plugin maybe	[17:23]
xavi	yes, thanks for the tip (even if it is more work for me..., and warranty that it will work, I guess) I'll consider that later, if I have some more free time left for today (I'm running out of time for tiki-related things for today)	[17:24]
coaboa_	Lindon: login don't work!	[17:25]
luciash	dogwalk time here, bbl	[17:25]
xavi	we have some friends coming at home tonight	[17:26]
lindon_	coaboa: sorry, I was typing in the wrong conversation coaboa: i think sylvieg is working on your issue but I'm also reporting it just in case	[17:31]
coaboa_	nhp	[17:38]
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xavi	argh, trackerlist plugin seems broken to me on a tiki 3.3 site "An error occured in a database query!"	[17:54]
luciash	oh, works4me	[17:54]
xavi	sylvieg ? yes, works for me in other cases... I guess I did fill some param data (following the helper box) which is not implemented, or made a mistake at the value written ,e tc. Query:SELECT tti.*, ttif.`value`, ttf.`type`, tti.`asc` as `sortvalue` FROM ( `tiki_tracker_items` tti INNER JOIN `tiki_tracker_item_fields` ttif ON tti.`itemId` = ttif.`itemId` INNER JOIN `tiki_tracker_fields` ttf ON ttf.`fieldId` = ttif.`fieldId`) INNER JOIN `tiki_tracker_item_fields` ttif0 ON (ttif0.`itemId` = ttif.`itemId`) WHERE tti.`trackerId` = ? and (`status`=? or `status`=?) AND ttif0.`fieldId`=? AND ttif0.`value`=? GROUP BY tti.`itemId` ORDER BY `so	[17:54]
luciash	aye, i guess i remember that go to tiki-editpage or pagehistory and rollback	[18:00]
xavi	:-) it was version 1	[18:00]
luciash	ah :), so go to edtpage and delete the param	[18:01]
xavi	well, before I forget, I'll first post a bug report about it ok, reported mmm, wrapping code seems not working on dev.tw.o tracker items :-/ http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2885	[18:01]
luciash	xavi: still no validation received here	[18:11]
xavi	aha, it was the sorting params einc? it happened again, after I edited the traker item once, I cannot edit it any more! bumpy road!	[18:12]
luciash	what have you edited in it ? what param	[18:14]
xavi	I edited this once after posting: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2885 , just changing the code wrap params but after that, I cannot edit the tracker item any more	[18:14]
luciash	ah, i thought the trackerlist problem	[18:14]
xavi	(as user registered without admin perms, I mean) no trackerlist problems is solved after I deleted the sort params	[18:15]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2885 - - error in db query with some param in trackerlist plugin (Tiki 3.3) - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2885	[18:16]
xavi	The "Sort mode" field: I left it as blank at the plugin helper interface, it was saved then as sort_mode="asc", I think and after saving, the db error issue	[18:18]
luciash	it must be something like "lastModif_asc"	[18:19]
xavi	but I tried to reproduce, and I guess that you need to add many of the params, as in my first trial, in order to have the sort_mode added by default as "asc"... Adding just trackerId number and fields didn't save the sort_mode default "asc" value to the code	[18:19]
luciash	and you have sort=y i think if yes, then you cannot have the sortby field blankx	[18:20]
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xavi	ah, or maybe, since I didn't remember the right syntax for sort mode (it's not shown there), I just tried asc...	[18:21]
luciash	this is weird, i can talk with you here and listening internet radio stream but cannot connect to websites nor jabber, weird	[18:22]
xavi	anyway, I'll edit that tracker item as user with admin rights.... but it's not normal that a user losts the ability to edit a tracker item...	[18:22]
luciash	check the tracker settings in edit tracker	[18:22]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Calendars, calendar_new, public & private - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35335	[18:24]
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xavi	aha, I lost edit capabilities because the "Submitted by" field is lost after I edited the tracker item as user with admin rights noticed that, and until I manually added my "xavi" (the reporter) username there (from another browser, and from user xavidp), user "xavi" did get the ability to edit it again	[18:27]
luciash	dos the file have 1, ? does field	[18:29]
xavi	it happened again! I edited again as user xavi (added a few words on a text area), and after I saved, I lost the ability to edit it again checking settings at that tracker5	[18:30]
luciash	are you lowercase xavi on both intertiki servers ?	[18:31]
xavi	yes, I think so I used to log in as "Xavi" in tw.o months ago, after I saw the issue with monitoring emails since then I try to login with lowercase always	[18:31]
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xavi	yes, "Submitted by" has user selector 1. This looks like a bug ok, reporting this other one	[18:32]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2886 - - Can only log in temporarily with activiation link, otherwise ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2886	[18:38]
luciash	that the wrap param doesn't work is really weird	[18:39]
xavi	Name of the film?: "Weirdnesses in the bumpy road" ;-)	[18:42]
luciash	heh xavi: can you just validate that my account ? no mail seems to come	[18:44]
xavi	sorry, I can't (I dunno how) ok, I'll change the admin pass for you and you use that account in the mean time	[18:45]
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luciash	huh, what is this again ? → http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Report+a+Bug see the toolbars above textarea and it ends with ~/np~ ??? (the trackerlist) err, tracker plugin i mean	[18:46]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2887 - - "Submitted by" at dev.tw. ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2887	[18:48]
xavi	above text area issue: yes chibaguy and me noticed on irc a few days ago bumpy bumpy... (even if this is just a microbump )	[18:52]
	luciash, your trick about removing the perm of my students to view trackers (on that tracker) and show the user data through a trackerlist plugin worked! thanks for the tip! :-)	[19:04]
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luciash	xavi: kewl	[19:08]
xavi	ok, see you all	[19:11]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23420 10/branches/4.x/tiki-mindmap.php: [FIX] wrong feature check was making using mindmap impossible.	[19:34]
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	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23421 10/branches/4.x/tiki-mindmap.php: [FIX] rollback 23420 and 23022. Security script should be updated and all files shoud be converted to use accesslib	[19:51]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2888 - - seding a message from userA through the userB homepage ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2888	[20:14]
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macnific	I am stopped working in my tw. Then I imagine it had a time-out session. I tried to log-in again and now I am inside a loop between tiki-index.php and index.php and I can not log-in. Can someone help me? can I also report a bug here or just by the bur report page?	[20:35]
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macnific	knock.. knock...	[20:49]
luciash	sorry, i don't know the answer	[20:50]
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macnific	Ok. Luciash, thanks anyway... where are everybody?, hehe ;) where is everybody? heheh ;)	[21:06]
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auzi	hello. i'm building an electronics/microcontroller related site i've played quite a bit with mediawiki, but i'm starting to dislike its open nature what i want is a wikipedia like script (categories, inclusions, being close to html, syntax highlighting, excellent spam protection) but with waaay better permissions, and if possible, better comments/page (not just a page where everyone can moderate everyone else) is tikiwiki right?	[22:21]
luciash	yup yup	[22:24]
auzi	what about scripting? i comee from mediawiki so i played quite a bit with it	[22:25]
luciash	scripting of what ?	[22:26]
auzi	it allows ParserFunctions if you know what I mean, basically, it's a scripting language in the article itself which can, hmm, for example, include another template like a box for a category and insert data into it and you just tell it i want that box with this parameters or generic stuff like that	[22:26]
luciash	we have something called WikiPlugins, extending basic wiki syntax if it's what you mean	[22:27]
auzi	well, this 'category box' facility is one thing i'm looking for basically you have preformatted div as a template, you include it, and before showing it, you replace\|remove some stuff from it	[22:27]
luciash	and also we have Modules (boxes) which can be included using MODULE wikiplugin	[22:28]
auzi	is there a demo online somewhere?	[22:28]
luciash	so yes, i guess that's what you mean	[22:28]
ricks99	@auzi: tw has "dynamic content" that may be what ur looking for	[22:29]
luciash	>doctwo PluginTrackerList	[22:30]
Sug4r`	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginTrackerList	[22:30]
luciash	auzi: with those wikiplugins and Trackers you can do a lot of such tricks auzi: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Pretty+Tracker	[22:32]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r23422 10/branches/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_versions.php: [FIX]bug 2872. surely it can't be this simple? but it fixed the issue on my 3.x and 4.x sites. this should be back ported to 3.x, too.	[22:33]

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