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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03pascalstjean * r23497 10/branches/4.x/ (templates/tiki-contact.tpl tiki-contact.php): [NEW] Added FROM Field for anonymous users inside the Contact Us Feature. Previously there was no way for the reciever to reply to a message unless that person left contact information inside the Body | [00:26] |
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| IBRRORG | i am having problems w/mediawiki and want to change to your software. i am curious if you have a forms input extension like semantic forms on MW and if i can code in the same way such as field|coordiantes= etc. i guess i am asking if the coding is about the same in tiki as MW thank you | [02:41] |
| i have to finish up some work, so i will check back around 2230EST and keep this open. thank you | [02:48] | |
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| nikhilodeon | hi is it possible to change the name of a wiki page?
i have a page that has the pagename 'name1,' and i want to rename it 'name2' | [02:58] |
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| lindon | yes you can if you have permission - are you the admin? | [03:02] |
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| IBRRORG | i am having problems w/mediawiki and want to change to your software. i am curious if you have a forms input extension like semantic forms on MW and if i can code in the same way such as field|coordiantes= etc. i guess i am asking if the coding is about the same in tiki as MW or is there a different chat i should post this question in. thank you | [03:27] |
| marclaporte | IBRRORG : you want to make forms? | [03:27] |
| IBRRORG | yeah, i tried using the SMW on MW and it is screwing w/the server end so I wanted to know if I can do the same thing (make forms) in tiki | [03:28] |
| marclaporte | http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Forms | [03:28] |
| IBRRORG | thanx i'll go look at that | [03:29] |
| marclaporte | also: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Semantic
Since you seem interested in Semantic Wiki | [03:29] |
| IBRRORG | it's a long story. i'm not a coder or wiki type. i am a hobo and have a wiki (now shut down due to SMW messing up the server w/a lot of calls to the server) that will simply use a form for someone to fill in the blank and populate a wiki page. ideally, the form will have a google map added.
the semantic forms was the only way i could do that | [03:32] |
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| marclaporte | ok
the approach is different in Tiki, but with same result Do you have Tiki4 installed? If so, I suggest you apply the Time_Sheet profile. it's a good example of using forms and putting results in a wiki page You can rename all fields after to correspond to your needs Do you want many results in one wiki page ? Or do you want forms to provide additional fields (structured data) to each wiki page? because there is also this: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Pretty+Tracker I don't know how to do the Google Maps part, but I know some people do it http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Google+Maps+Tracker+Field | [03:42] |
| IBRRORG | sorry, i was installing the tiki. the version is 3.1. is there an easy way to upgrade? i have cpanel, but this is the version that it used and then had me update the dbases | [03:56] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23500 10/branches/4.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] Removed em {vertical-align: middle}, which was causing italic text to be below baseline. Thanks to lindon bringing this up. | [03:59] |
| IBRRORG | the ultimate form allows for id, city, state, country, train name, to/from, resources, and a map so i guess that's a lot of data. about three of those fields need a 'textarea' as they call it in MW
Collaborative_Community_4x is listed in the profiles section so maybe i do have tiki4? | [03:59] |
| nope, says version 3.1 | [04:08] | |
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| marclaporte | if you install via Fantastico, you should upgrade that way | [04:48] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23501 10/branches/4.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] Better styling for when logo, etc. isn't positioned left. | [04:48] |
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| hittingsmoke | I'm trying to get my file gallery working... I've directed the uploads to /tiki_files/. I've tried putting a tiki_files folder in every directory I can think of from my root directory to my wiki root directory with 777 permissions and I get the same thing every time "Cannot write to this file:/tiki_files/d9006cf1014db1cbccebca82615ca1dd"
What am I doing wrong? | [05:25] |
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| chibaguy | the path you specify in the file gallery admin page isn't relative to the tiki root, it's the full path on the server, as shown on phpinfo.
document_root, plus your file directory | [05:32] |
| hittingsmoke | ahh, ok thanks | [05:34] |
| chibaguy | isn't that in the docs someplace? | [05:34] |
| hittingsmoke | Is there any advantage to keeping my file upload directories out of my HTTP directory?
It doesn't specify that it's the server root. It made it sound like it was from your home root, so I was going with from what I have access to on my FTP server as root I've been reading through docs and tweaking most of the day, a few of them seem a bit out of date | [05:34] |
| chibaguy | yeah, no doubt about that. | [05:37] |
| hittingsmoke | I must say I'm impressed with Tiki though | [05:37] |
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| chibaguy | sorry, I didn't notice your question. Yes, it would be more secure to keep the upload directory outside of the http directory.
in the web directory, potentially someone could access a file. without going through tiki. | [05:53] |
| hittingsmoke | Thanks :) | [06:00] |
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| hittingsmoke | I have one more question for the night. Is there a way to import a spreadsheet or database into a tracker database? I can't seem to find the table that keeps the tracker list's info in a readable way
Scoured my tiki database and searched the docs and nothing :( | [06:36] |
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| chibaguy | sorry, i don't know about that either. | [06:54] |
| hittingsmoke | Thanks, I'll ask on the forums
Thanks a lot for all your help guys | [06:57] |
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| Beestje | good morning all :) | [07:32] |
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| xavi | toctoc
first question of the day (I have an almost full day for Tiki consultancy work) :-) I recall granting a perm for users so that they can admin the other users in their groups or downwards (but not upgwards in the hierarchy of groups).... but I can't find that permission any more in Tiki 3.3 the only perms related to admin users that I can see is: tiki_p_admin_users but this one is granting full perms on all users (even on admin) I wonder if anybody knows what happened to that feature... | [08:35] |
| chibaguy | hi xavi, sorry, but wasn't aware of that perm. | [08:47] |
| xavi | ok, no problem
s y l v i e g knows about it, but I don't want to wake her up for this nor beeping in her computer btw, chibaguy, could you make any progress on that header-type of design for tiki? | [08:48] |
| chibaguy | I've done some research but don't have a good method yet. | [08:50] |
| xavi | I finally got the consultancy were I wanted to put that into practice (its about a natural park where they have many nice pics about it) and that would be a good use case of that header with pics
ok, how did they manage in joomla then? | [08:50] |
| chealer | xavi: hum, I'd be interested if you find how to get this permission thing to work | [08:51] |
| xavi | are they using some sort of gpl'd method that we can't reuse?
:-) hi chealer. It did work :-) xavi used that for months for a project | [08:51] |
| chealer | xavi: great, tell me if you remember how it's done | [08:53] |
| xavi | :-) it's done through a perm that I cannot find any more in tiki3.x :-/ | [08:53] |
| chibaguy | xavi, i'm looking through my files now. too much going on at once ;-) | [08:58] |
| xavi | ok, no problem, Gary. Thanks for having a look | [08:59] |
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| xavi | chealer: it seems to work well in tiki 3.1 but not in tiki 3.3
I have been able to use it on a site where we are (by mistake) still using tiki 3.1 | [09:05] |
| chibaguy | anyway xavi, as I recall, it has a script that changes the background image property for the header dynamically. | [09:09] |
| xavi | yes, chibaguy, that was it | [09:09] |
| chibaguy | (it's frustrating that I can't find the files I was checking here - brain is overloading.) | [09:09] |
| xavi | and some transparent-ish header on top | [09:10] |
| chibaguy | right. | [09:10] |
| xavi | shall I report the url of the joomla site?
s/report/re-post | [09:10] |
| chibaguy | I have it already. | [09:10] |
| xavi | ok | [09:10] |
| chibaguy | I was looking for a jquery script to do the same thing.
uh oh, www.ub.edu/ecologia has broken parts - Warning: cannot yet handle MBCS in html_entity_decode()! in /www/wub/ecologia/libraries/joomla/application/pathway.php on line 209 :-o | [09:11] |
| xavi | :-)
jommla (and/or extensions) still have bug around, also :-) joomla xavi has cold fingers still. He didn't take a hot tea this morning, just cold milk.... and cold fingers are misstyping more than usual at this time of the day... xavi went to prepare some hot tea :-) | [09:13] |
| chibaguy | i've been thinking about getting a new keyboard. been working on a small laptop all this time. | [09:15] |
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| macnific | Hello everyone. At: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Permissions there is a instruction for a demo wiki that says: DEMO SITE FOR TESTING - Login here: (user: admin / password: demo) to test giving permissions at: http://demo.opensourcecms.com/tiki/tiki-assignpermission.php?group=Registered. When I go there. The instructions do not work. I need to have an idea about permission. Can someone help me? | [09:48] |
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| chibaguy | macnific, specifically,what did you try, and what happened? | [09:53] |
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| xavi | macnific, I presume that the demo is using tiki4 and the big screenshots in the permissions page you linked are for Tiki4
xavi thinks that that http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Permissions page needs an urgent rewrite xavi can't do that today, unluckily macnific, I can make an "offer" for you :-) I can't rewrite the doc page myself now, but I'll answer your questions to help you understand how it works in tiki3 if you help documenting later how permissions work in Tiki3 and others (including myself) will make some edits later on to improve the documentation if needed | [10:04] |
| Beestje | converted from 2.4 to 4.0 yesterday - ldap didn't work anymore and the toc plugin stayed in disabled mode altough it was enabled in the settings
so rolled back today to 2.4 and installed 3.3, now LDAP still works, but I get a blank screen on trying to edit any page. frustrating :) ah, and the toc plugin says it's disabled | [10:09] |
| luciash | heya
i have just realized on tiki-list_comments.php it says "No records found." but we have lot of tracker comments on that site (3.x) - is that intentional ? Beestje: enable the plugin on Admin → Editing and Plugins | [10:12] |
| xavi | hi luciash
Beestje: for toc, try enabling structures feature | [10:15] |
| luciash | hola xavi | [10:16] |
| xavi | Beestje: did you read the http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki3 page?
and Beestje: did you clean your tiki caches after this upgrade & downgrade? | [10:16] |
| Beestje | aha.... | [10:17] |
| xavi | did you upgrade again your db from 2.4 to 3.3? (ur using your tiki4.0 db)
luciash: issue with comments: no idea myself, sorry | [10:17] |
| luciash | xavi: i wonder why the tracker items comments are not counted in :( | [10:18] |
| xavi | so do I
Beestje: if my tips work for you, could you please update whatever documentation pages you were looking that info in order to include it with your own words if needed so that it's understandable by new users? | [10:18] |
| luciash | chibaguy: hi, yeah, had to buy extra usb keyboard for my mini laptop too ;) | [10:19] |
| Beestje | to clean the cache, is that just the templates_c directory? | [10:20] |
| luciash | Beestje: tiki-system_admin.php?do=all
Beestje: err, tiki-admin_system.php?do=all | [10:21] |
| Beestje | ok
just cleared all caches, and reset safari still a blank page when trying to edit a page | [10:23] |
| luciash | >whatis memory_limit | [10:25] |
| Sug4r` | 'memory_limit' could be the most frequently asked question about trouble getting blank pages. The PHP memory_limit should be >= 16M (see your php.ini). You can check it with <?php echo ini_get('memory_limit'); ?> and read more at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Requirements+and+Setup&bl#PHP | [10:25] |
| Beestje | 128 | [10:25] |
| luciash | Beestje: maybe this ? | [10:25] |
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| luciash | ah
nope, hen then Beestje: go to Admin → General and enable PHP error reporting Beestje: so you will know what is the problem instead of blank page xavi: also i wonder why tracker item comments are not wiki parsed | [10:25] |
| Beestje | ok ;)
it was a custom wikiplugin_blogs.php file that i've created / modified that caused the blank page problem | [10:30] |
| luciash | aye | [10:31] |
| Beestje | could not redeclare wikiplugin_blogs_help()
i guess i'll have to rewrite the plugin. It showed the last blogpost on the homepage | [10:31] |
| xavi | luciash: no idea either
Beestje: could you add the tip from luciash to the http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Documentation pages, whereever you would have liked or expected to find it, please? | [10:33] |
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| xavi | memory limit, at least (it seems that you didn't know about it and could very well be the source of your problem)
I know it was not in your case (you have custom code), but it could very well have been | [10:36] |
| Beestje | i already knew about the memory limit, as that's the first problem i ever encountered with tikiwiki (like 6 years ago)
:-) or 7... i'll update it as soon as i relocate my logon details... thanks already for solving this problem ;-) | [10:37] |
| xavi | ok, thanks
Beestje: when did you start using Tiki then? we had some discussions with Marc about when Tiki started publicly... | [10:41] |
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| Beestje | hmmm, don't really remember when i set it up at my previous job, but it could be 6 years ago | [10:51] |
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| Beestje | perhaps i still have a backup at home, so i can check the version numbers i used back then | [10:52] |
| xavi | oh well, just curiosity... | [10:52] |
| Beestje | back to problem number 2 : the toc plugin :-) | [10:54] |
| xavi | glad to see that there are other people around since the early days :-) | [10:54] |
| Beestje | it's enabled in editing and plugins, but i can't find the structures feature... but shouldn't that automatically be enabled as I used them in 2.4?
ah, under wiki weird that it didn't save this setting during the update, and that's also the same problem under 4.0 never mind, my unskilled diagonal reading brain didn't notice step 6 : check that the features you used to use are still turned on .... | [10:55] |
| xavi | Beestje: could you add that to http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki3 please? (it seems to be then when this change in the behavior of toc was introduced, needing structures to be enabled (disabled by default after upgrade, afaik)
you know, I?m always asking help from other people to improve the docs otherwise, it's not sustainable, according to my experience chibaguy, I've just found in the new edu.tw.o (thanks to ohertel) that we can't see the tikipedia theme from mods.tw.o admin interface in Tiki4,, but we can see tikipedia_tiki_3 would it work for tiki4? and how can we have your upgraded-themes available from the Tiki Mods interface? is it a task from nyloth only? | [11:02] |
| Beestje | xavi : it's nice to put it in the docs, but isn't that kind of like a bug in the installation process that it doesn't retain the old features? | [11:05] |
| xavi | Beestje: it was designed to be like this, as far as I remember from discussions/information in the devel list
since structures in Tiki3 became optional (aside of the wiki feature)... ... they had a separate checkbox to enable them.... ... and they seemed not to know (or to code) how to autodetect if structures were being used or not... | [11:06] |
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| xavi | ...so that it seems that they coded that by default structures would be disabled
. My 2 cents on this issue afaik | [11:08] |
| chibaguy | xavi, tikipedia (tiki 3 files) does work with tiki 4, but with problems. site header template files got reorganized, so the new files are needed. and some style details need updating. | [11:09] |
| xavi | if you know how to improve the migration path from 2.x to 3.x, please do so at the code level, since tiki 3. is the Long Term Support (LTS) branch, and more versions are expected after 3.3
chibaguy: ok, thanks, that's what I thought and since I don't have access to the new server where edu.tw.o is hosted, I'll have to moun ohertel... :-/ | [11:09] |
| chibaguy | I'm hoping to get to it soon. | [11:10] |
| xavi | "get it": tiki4 themes available from mods interface? or the pics for the header? | [11:11] |
| chibaguy | as long as you don't have to moon him ;-)
both ;-) | [11:11] |
| xavi | xavi checking if the verb moun exists...
xavi also checking the verb moon ;-) s/moun/mourn xavi didn't use that verb for a loooong time | [11:11] |
| chibaguy | http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Stylesheet+changes+from+Tiki+3+to+4
those things plus the site header template file changes, basically. | [11:15] |
| Beestje | xavi : just checked and indeed it's not easy to keep the setting for the structures. but a simple check on the contents of the tiki_structures table would be a good indication that structures are being used.
so it's a bug with a nice excuse :D but that's only a minor nuissance | [11:17] |
| xavi | chibaguy: thanks for the info and link | [11:19] |
| chibaguy | sure | [11:19] |
| xavi | Beestje: if you can improve it (code, documentation and/or bug report list), that would be wonderful... | [11:20] |
| Beestje | xavi : will do, but I'm on a bit of a deadline right now. have to create a linked tracker to keep track of security incidents in the company and have to have it finished before the end of the week | [11:21] |
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| xavi | ok, thanks for taking care after your deadline :-) | [11:21] |
| Beestje | that's why i upgraded to 3.3 : linked trackers in 2.4 didn't work properly | [11:21] |
| xavi | Beestje: and afaik, we are still missing the chance to restrict the list of linked items depending on the opc state | [11:23] |
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| tf_xx0 | hello | [12:13] |
| luciash | hi | [12:14] |
| tf_xx0 | can you tell me where am i allowed to insert php-code. is it possible to do this in a module? where can i find information on writing my own modules? | [12:16] |
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| luciash | tf_xx0: directly in tiki you cannot insert php code, only php smarty syntax
tf_xx0: in modules or custom code textareas tf_xx0: if you need custom php you can write a custom wikiplugin or a module tf_xx0: try http://dev.tikiwiki.org/HelloWorld if there's info how to write them or learn from already existing plugins/modules code tf_xx0: you can find them in lib/wiki-plugins/ and modules/ folders | [12:17] |
| tf_xx0 | just want to insert basic feature (display ip adress to user), template editing with php is not very clever i think. iĺl read the article you mentioned | [12:21] |
| luciash | tf_xx0: there is already existing plugin to display IP iirc
it's called agentinfo | [12:22] |
| tf_xx0 | that would be great, since i did not had to write a single line of code (not counting css) and i don t have any time to do so. thanks for your help | [12:24] |
| luciash | {AGENTINFO(info="IP")}{AGENTINFO} | [12:25] |
| tf_xx0 | works! | [12:31] |
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| Tikiwiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2899 - - implement the nice jquery table sorter in trackerlist plugin (as ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2899 | [12:43] |
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| Tikiwiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2900 - - potential security hole related to managing users - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2900
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23502 10/branches/4.x/styles/ (strasa/options/cool.css strasa/options/mono.css strasa.css): [CSS] Better colours for headings in My Tiki page | [13:35] |
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| luciash | hi RavenC | [13:36] |
| xavi | hi RavenC . jonnyb: are you aware of this notice from firefox when attempting to insert bug report at dev.tw.o:
A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete. Script: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/lib/jquery/jquery.js:844 ? ^ | [13:40] |
| jonnyb | no, not seen that (hi xavi ) | [13:40] |
| xavi | it doesn't happen always, just frmo time to time
hi jonnyb | [13:41] |
| jonnyb | looks like it's set to no use the minified scripts (odd) | [13:41] |
| xavi | I saw it a few days ago. I've reported 4 or 5 bugs already without any issue, and nowadays, I've just seen it again
oh well, I?ve reported the bugs with no problems through the "Report a bug" page (tracker plugin) and not directly through the tracker interface | [13:41] |
| jonnyb | i wonder if it's the use autocomplete
s/use/user | [13:43] |
| xavi | and right now the notice showed up when I attempted to insert one from the "Inser new item" tab at http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tracker5
I wonder how this could be... because the field user is not shown through the "report a bug", and it's not shown with autocomplete (afaik) in any text field for user, but just through a dropdown for users "Assigned to person" is showing a drop down list. Is autocomplete involved in that drop down?? | [13:43] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23503 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091123_upgrade_categperm_2_tiki.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Part 2 of upgrade_categperm script. tikiwiki: This one assigns tiki_p_modify_object_categories wherever a group had general "edit" perms (modify_tracker_items, edit, edit_article, blog_post etc, but a smaller list than in part 1). tikiwiki: It also adds the collection of view perms (as seen in part 1) wherever tiki_p_search_categorized was, and then renames the description ("Obsolete tw>=4 ...") | [13:45] |
| jonnyb | oh, ok (more brain cells now focussed on xavi ! :) )
let me try... | [13:46] |
| sylvieg | thx jonnyb for contributing to the upgrade script | [13:47] |
| jonnyb | on http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Report+a+Bug ? seems fine | [13:47] |
| xavi | yes, it's fine also for me | [13:47] |
| jonnyb | hi sylvieg - i was wondering whether to put it in tests first (but then no-one ever tests ;) ) | [13:47] |
| xavi | try with http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tracker5 | [13:47] |
| RavenC | Could anyone recommend a good, current WAMP package to use with TikiWiki 4 ? | [13:47] |
| sylvieg | absolutly right ;-) | [13:48] |
| jonnyb | sylvieg: let me know if it needs changing | [13:48] |
| xavi | RavenC, for which OS?
ah, sorry "W" | [13:48] |
| RavenC | Windows '08
:) | [13:49] |
| xavi | RavenC, why not xampp? or easyphp? | [13:49] |
| RavenC | not familiar with either | [13:49] |
| chibaguy | RavenC: , I use wampserver (www.wampserver.com). | [13:49] |
| xavi | sorry RavenC I haven't user those for many years but they used to work well an they seem to be updated from time to time, afaik | [13:49] |
| sylvieg | The other time I tried wampserver - I was imopressed it worked with no problem | [13:50] |
| chibaguy | was using xampp, but had a problem when tiki's database abstraction changed. maybe fixed now, i don't know. | [13:50] |
| xavi | ok, follow advice from Gary and sylvieg | [13:50] |
| RavenC | kk. Thasnks chibaguy. xavi, I will research those. Thanks for the info. | [13:50] |
| jonnyb | xavi: i think the tracker thing is probably just too many checkboxes for Fx 3.5 - have you tried it in 3.0? (no help, i know)
on my system it sort of hung for a few seconds, but then loaded without a warning | [13:50] |
| xavi | :-) nope (I don't have ff 3.0) but I'll try with my other browsers, just for curiosity | [13:51] |
| jonnyb | (it's nice in Safari ;) ) | [13:51] |
| xavi | "your system" might very well be a dueal core (at least) machine? (as recent macbooks? :-) | [13:52] |
| RavenC | Think I will try with the updated wamp from wampserver first. I'm thinking my troubles may be related to the older version of MySQL that I am using (5.0.5) . | [13:52] |
| xavi | Right now I'm using my desktop (AMD Sempron 2600MHz single core) which is fast enough for (almost) everything | [13:53] |
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| xavi | oh well, it seems a ff 3.5.x issue then: Epiphany (based on gecko) didn't show any js notice. It just took like 7-8 seconds to change tab. But chromium took less than 0.5 seconds to change tab!!! | [13:55] |
| jonnyb | the silly feature lists checkboxes are probably part of the problem - also the userlist (odd that didn't get changed to an autocomplete - i thought Nelson did that?) | [13:57] |
| xavi | ok, weirdnesses. Same firefox 3.5 on the same machine now loads the page without notices (5 seconds or so)
for changing the tab | [13:58] |
| jonnyb | nice :) | [13:58] |
| xavi | whatever... | [13:58] |
| jonnyb | maybe some fluff stuck in between the tabs? | [13:59] |
| xavi | xavi wishes jonnyb can reuse his neurons for other more productive work | [13:59] |
| luciash | hahah :) | [13:59] |
| xavi | who knows | [13:59] |
| luciash | some fluff stuck in between tabs :-D, good one jonnyb | [13:59] |
| jonnyb | people think computer are just "digital" but we all know there's much more going on in them than that! | [14:01] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg needs to fix the login problem on tw.org ... it begins to spread around... | [14:01] |
| luciash | spread ? | [14:02] |
| sylvieg | tw is not the only site with problem... wondering why on my local it is ok... | [14:03] |
| Tikiwiki|bot | Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . | [14:03] |
| luciash | sylvieg: what login problem you mean ? intertiki ? | [14:03] |
| sylvieg | some people can not log in tw - account disabled... | [14:04] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23504 10/branches/4.x/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: [ENH] New 'simple' param for {textarea}. Switches off wysiwyg, auto_save, lost edit warning etc (e.g. for contact form)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23505 10/branches/4.x/ (templates/tiki-contact.tpl tiki-contact.php): tikiwiki: [FIX] Use new simple param for {textarea} to stop irrelevant warnings. tikiwiki: Also set $auto_query_args (to none) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23506 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl: [FIX] Move duplicate file gallery button into section where filegal has been set (galleryId > 0) so it appears. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23507 10/branches/4.x/doc/devtools/ (2 files): tikiwiki: [SQL] A couple of SQL scripts that might be handy after upgrading to Tiki 4.x. tikiwiki: Adding them here for safe-keeping - one day it would be nice to offer upgraders tikiwiki: some additional (and heavily warned about) optional processes after the tikiwiki: automatic update has happened. | [14:08] |
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| xavi | bbl | [14:46] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23508 10/branches/4.x/lib/newsletters/nllib.php: [FIX] If user has been subscribed but not validated don't just blow up on an SQL error, but update code and 'subscribed' timestamp for that user, then resend the validation mail.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23509 10/branches/4.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php: [FIX] Correct logic on caching the right icons for theme options | [15:16] |
| jonnyb | bbl 2 | [15:17] |
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| coaboa | Hello. I need to check age of users and to disable some categories for underaged users. Is there a way other than creating a tracker-survey? | [15:31] |
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| marclaporte | this should be a native feature of Tiki
you can create a user tracker, but there is no way (AFAIK) to automatically restrict based on a test (age < 13) | [15:38] |
| chibaguy | tiki_p_view_adultcontent ;-) | [15:39] |
| marclaporte | hahahhahahahaha
feature_dating_service | [15:39] |
| chibaguy | :)
I think all those tests are basically to give the appearance that the web site tries to stop underage users, but in reality how could they work? "What year were you born?" just filters out people really bad in math, not young people. | [15:41] |
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| mlpvolt | hiya - to change the smtp server to send email - is that only in the installer, or is there an admin screen for that? | [16:00] |
| sylvieg | admin->general | [16:00] |
| xavi | coaboa: category transitions might do the trick for you. Check the profile and ask marclaporte if in doubt after that.
in Tiki4 you could have a field in the user tracker where they select categories. and then, I guess, that you could restrict some pages for those being only in the category ">=18" or whatever | [16:01] |
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| xavi | well, coaboa, in fact, you don't need category transitions, just category perms would do, even in Tiki 3
mlpvolt: that info that sylvieg just gave you is missing (at least) from the http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4 . It would be great it your could add that! and even better with a screenshot of whatever interface it has hi btw mlpvolt and sylvieg | [16:02] |
| mlpvolt | sylvie: yes, i see it there in admin>general 4.0 - but in 2.4?
xavi: sure thing! | [16:08] |
| xavi | 2.4? :_D
:-D | [16:08] |
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| xavi | 2.x = deprecated in Tiki World (and that feature was not coded in that branch afaik) | [16:09] |
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| mlpvolt | xavi: ikno, upgrade in progress, ok? | [16:11] |
| xavi | oh well, everything is fine and security issue (afaik) on tiki 2.x branch
xavi still has also a production sites running on tiki 2.4 too many sites, in too many servers xavi wishes TRIM was easy to use and there was some quick intro video-tutorial out there.... | [16:12] |
| ricks99 | trim for smarties? ;-) | [16:17] |
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| xavi | ricks99: go for it! :-) | [16:19] |
| ricks99 | was thinking.... 'xavi, go for it!' | [16:20] |
| xavi | :-D
the road is too bumpy for me already without TRIM :-) I refuse to be the beta tester also for TRIM (I don't have the time, and not probably the skills nor mood for that). I prefer to walk step by step on each server controlling what I'm doing and what I'm not. and since that site running still 2.4 is not very active and no issues showed up for that version, no hurries... :-) | [16:20] |
| changi|WE | Fatal error: Call to undefined function update_preferences() in /home/tiki/public_html/installer/schema/20091123_upgrade_categperm_2_tiki.php on line 21 | [16:25] |
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| mlpvolt | ok i'm assuming that prior to 3.x whatever the smtp is set via the installer only. | [16:26] |
| changi|work | just in case someone have time | [16:26] |
| mlpvolt | upgrading 2 -> 4 is a bumpy road, category perms, wiki plugins, theme issues . . . . xavi is there no upgrade 3.x to 4.x in docs yet, right? | [16:35] |
| xavi | not specific one, just http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade
and links from there upgrading 2 -> 3 is smooth. 4.0 is a bumpy road (specially if upgrading) | [16:36] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23510 10/trunk/ (38 files in 12 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 23482 to 23509 | [16:38] |
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| mlpvolt | xavi: maybe we need to put ((upgrade)) back in the main menus of docs | [16:50] |
| xavi | yes, maybe
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| nkoth | xavi: was it you that notice admingroups on dev timing out?
for registere | [17:23] |
| xavi | hi nkoth. no, it wasn't me | [17:24] |
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| luciash | re-polom | [17:48] |
| jonnyb | hi luciash | [17:48] |
| luciash | heya jonnyb, how are epnet pretty trackers going ? :) | [17:51] |
| jonnyb | haven't had time to play recently :( | [17:51] |
| luciash | i c | [17:51] |
| jonnyb | still catching up after Montreal (it seems) | [17:52] |
| coaboa_ | xavi: thx. I still did not got the complete understanding whats new with permission in 4, which i use now on an upgraded site. | [17:52] |
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| luciash | luciash realized it is better to wait with upgrades to any new major version
i upgraded to ubuntu karmic koala but had to switch from gnome to xfce because in gnome my external monitor scripts work nomore and mounted disk changed to use device id, so my symlinks got broken, etc. luckily it still works fine in xfce i think it is simmilar with tiki, good for fresh new sites but bumpy road (as xavi says) for upgrades | [17:57] |
| jonnyb | sounds nasty - i just upgraded (Mac) to the 64-bit version, Snow Leopard - quite a lot of rebuilding required
well, laptop was fine, but desktop put up a fight! | [18:00] |
| luciash | better to wait when the road gets fixed in next version (thanks to dogfood and the brave ones who upgaded already)
ahh, you see :) | [18:01] |
| jonnyb | indeed - wise words :) | [18:02] |
| luciash | but i must say lot of things work better in my new ubuntu (same for Tiki)
it's just the little things which people were used to and which worked nicely... it is very probable they will be catched and fixed in 4.1 btw, anyone got PHP db error when assigning some modules that "params must not be empty" or something like that ? | [18:02] |
| xavi | c u all | [18:05] |
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| luciash | it gets workarounded when i add decorations y for example | [18:05] |
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| olinuxx | hi here | [18:55] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23511 10/branches/4.x/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [SQL] New column for tiki_pages (comments_enabled) for per page comment control (wiki_comments_allow_per_page - code to come) | [19:16] |
| sylvieg | jonnyb: is it a enough simple for 4? | [19:16] |
| jonnyb | hi sylvieg - very borderline case i think. That's the one i was asking nyloth about a while ago
i mainly did it this way round to try and avoid branchupdate conflicts 2 more commits to come (doing it in 3 parts to make corrections easier - i hope...) i'll do an update once it's all in | [19:17] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23512 10/branches/4.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [NEW] Minor feature (wiki_comments_allow_per_page) to allow control of comments for each wiki page. tikiwiki: Prefs admin only - implementation coming next. | [19:20] |
| sylvieg | ok seems to be minor | [19:20] |
| jonnyb | medium sized (thought it was more minor before i wrote it! ;) ) | [19:23] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23513 10/branches/4.x/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [NEW] Minor feature (wiki_comments_allow_per_page) implementation (commit 3 of 3). tikiwiki: Preserves previous behaviour by default, when enabled allows default to On or Off for new pages and those without 'comments_enabled' set. tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23514 10/branches/4.x/ (6 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX]registration: clean the code: users_users.hash is the encoded real tikiwiki: password, users_users.valid is the send random password, users_uusers.waiting is tikiwiki: the reason (user or admin) why the account is disabled + fix enable in tikiwiki: admin->users 'sedn email' on if not direct registration | [19:26] |
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| changi|work | jonnyb: ping | [19:42] |
| jonnyb | changi|work: pong | [19:42] |
| changi|work | jonnyb: did you see my email about update_preferences ? | [19:42] |
| jonnyb | aha, yes - hadn't connected the nickname though | [19:43] |
| changi|work | i got a fatal error running installer | [19:44] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23515 10/trunk/ (20 files in 7 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 23509 to 23514 | [19:55] |
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| coaboa | Hello. We plan to implement a sitewide 5 star rating into the tiki_header.tpl and a shoutbox mod which also shouts optionaly to twitter. Just checking if those are not already planed for next version?
Is there a roadmap page which shows "planed" features with a timeline? | [20:01] |
| RavenC_ | coaboa: perhaps this will help: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Tiki5
coaboa: there are also tagged wishes for version 4 at http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4 | [20:08] |
| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23516 10/branches/4.x/lib/userslib.php: [FIX] Missing bracket typo (corrected already in trunk) | [20:09] |
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| jonnyb | changi|work: were you running the installer in a shell? | [20:12] |
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| changi|work | jonnyb: yes | [20:15] |
| jonnyb | thought so - on the case... | [20:15] |
| changi|work | maybe it don't include tiki-installer.php which has the function | [20:16] |
| jonnyb | but when you do include it lots of otehr stuff break :( | [20:18] |
| changi|work | in fact yes, i've tested it too :) | [20:19] |
| jonnyb | nice! the shell installer just messed up all my file perms... is that right? (surely not) | [20:23] |
| changi|work | surely not | [20:26] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23517 10/branches/4.x/installer/schema/20091123_upgrade_categperm_2_tiki.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] upgrade_categperm_2 installer script was failing when run from shell. tikiwiki: Removed reliance on installer/tiki-installer.php. | [20:30] |
| jonnyb | that should do it changi|work - off out now, mail me if it's still giving problems for you | [20:32] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r23518 10/trunk/: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 23514 to 23516 | [20:33] |
| changi|work | under testing | [20:34] |
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| changi|work | it works
thx a lot | [20:37] |
| coaboa | RavenC: thx visited those pages. Is there some important thing beside the page Hello+World which i should pass to our software developers (they have solid c++/php/Java skills) to enable them to start implement asap? I just want to save some money and collect the necessary info for them ;-) | [20:38] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23519 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic: some work in admin wiki template | [20:53] |
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| Tikiwiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Blank Screen after configuring LDAP? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=17&comments_parentId=35385 | [21:13] |
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| sylvieg | trunk is pretty broken - jonnyb .. help | [23:06] |
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| CIA-50 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23520 10/branches/4.x/lib/userslib.php: sorry missed up with my 5 tiki4 | [23:48] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg looking for the wiki page syntax ? where is it now?
more exactly /me looking for AccBxx where it is recognized like a page name | [23:55] |
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