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sylvieg	me looking for the wikiwords	[00:01]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23521 10/branches/4.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]wiki: do the antiwikiwords only when wikiwords is enabled - allow to have page like ((a)),((b))	[00:08]
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ildefonso_	Hi! is anybody here? !help	[02:53]
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ildefonso_	I have a problem creating a tikiwiki theme. maybe the "clearfix" is bothering me a lot. and I need to change styles on several places........	[02:55]
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ildefonso_	hello? has anybody of you worked with tw themes?	[03:01]
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ildefonso	how to change style for menus? (cssmenu) from a theme, without modifying the css/cssmenus.css .... is enough to just modify the properties in the theme's css?	[03:05]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r23522 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_fancytable.php: [ENH] Add ability to set column widths, set horizontal and vertical alignments separately for header and body rows, have multiple header rows. Eliminated some duplicated code.	[03:10]
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chibaguy	polom	[03:16]
ildefonso	hi!	[03:17]
	chibaguy : has you worked with tw themes?	[03:22]
chibaguy	yes hi ildefonso	[03:22]
ildefonso	hi! I got a problem..... i'm trying to create a custom theme, where I have to modify, well, pretty much all..... this far: I have been able to create the theme (.css file), and applied some changes, but now, I'm trying to modify the menu bar style, and tried this: {menu id=43 css_id=main-menu} but then, the generated html code is ignoring the "css_id" from here, and is just printing: <div class="clearfix" id="topbar_custom_code"> and then the menu options and </div>.... any idea? this is tw 3.3 chibaguy , are you still there?	[03:22]
chibaguy	I haven't ever used an id for the custom menu.... Is that in the docs?	[03:27]
ildefonso	actually.... in the page where you create the menu in the tiki admin.	[03:28]
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ildefonso	tiki-admin_menus.php and there it says: To customize the menu's CSS id (#): {menu id=X css_id=custom_name}	[03:28]
chibaguy	if you look at your page source, does the menu id get used?	[03:29]
ildefonso	no. and that's precisely the problem. anyway, let's assume that this feature isn't working: what other options do I have to change the menu's style?	[03:29]
chibaguy	how about just using the css that the menu's context requires?	[03:29]
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ildefonso	because, right now, it is using: clearfix, which is used, well, almost everywhere.	[03:30]
chibaguy	yeah, that's just a class to get the floated menu items cleared. a utility like where is this menu being used, in the top bar?	[03:30]
ildefonso	yes. top bar.	[03:31]
chibaguy	well, is there any need to give it a unique id? why not just the selectors based on its location?	[03:31]
ildefonso	ok... I got lost.... what are "selectors".	[03:32]
chibaguy	in the themes I do, I generally have a global set of rules for cssmenus, then some for #tiki-top, and some for .box-data. by that I mean classes or ids.	[03:32]
ildefonso	oh, I see. that was my next point.	[03:33]
chibaguy	you could look at one of the existing stylesheets to see. for menus, the basics are defined in ./css/cssmenus.css	[03:33]
ildefonso	I was able to get the style pretty close, by using: {menu id=43 css=y type=horiz} , but then...	[03:33]
chibaguy	then themes can override	[03:33]
ildefonso	it uses the styles from css/cssmenu.css (I think).	[03:34]
chibaguy	right but themes add their own coloring etc	[03:34]
ildefonso	then, I take that stylesheet, and paste it into my theme, and it will correctly override?	[03:34]
chibaguy	it should�@more or less, but other rules in your stylesheet will also have an effect, such as the global rule for a, a:link, etc.	[03:35]
ildefonso	ok.	[03:35]
chibaguy	which may have to be redefined for .cssmenu_horiz a, etc.	[03:35]
ildefonso	ok. now, another question, you know the "top bar", and the "middle" (where the page's text is)	[03:36]
chibaguy	yah	[03:36]
ildefonso	how do I define an style for the middle, and not for the top, I changed the clearfix when texting (and before realizing what it was) and it applied the style, but also applied to the top bar and others..... how to define a style for the middle only? currently, tw is generating this div for middle: <div class="clearfix" id="middle">	[03:37]
chibaguy	well, first I'd install the firebug add-on for firefox, if you don't have it already.	[03:38]
ildefonso	I have it.	[03:38]
chibaguy	well, it should show the div that contains all of the middle area.	[03:39]
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ildefonso	as you can see, it uses clearfix for middle, how to make it use other? or, there isn't a way (I'm new to css, so please, forgive me if this is a dumb question).	[03:39]
chibaguy	called div id="middle" iirc divs can have more than one class, and also an id	[03:39]
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ildefonso	that's the div. but it is currently using class="clearfix" as I told you, I'm new to css, so... I'm not sure if I can create something like clearfix:middle .....	[03:40]
chibaguy	well, it'd be good to check out a tutorial or overview on using css. you can ignore the clearfix class	[03:42]
ildefonso	any recommended reading?	[03:42]
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chibaguy	not offhand, but I'm sure there are lots of good introductions. just google	[03:42]
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ibrrorg	i have just installed tiki it put 3.1 and then had me update the dbases) i see there is a 4.0 version. all i have are 3 trackers and my 'profile' settings. is it worth me upgrading yet or should i wait awhile. thanx	[03:43]
ildefonso	ok, so, let me get this clear: I just ignore the clearfix class, and create something like #middle in the css?	[03:44]
chibaguy	ibrrorg, if you don't have much data or complex configuration settings, it'd probably be fine to upgrade. ildefonso: yes.	[03:44]
ibrrorg	thanx!	[03:45]
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ildefonso	ok... css looks simpler that I thought...	[03:45]
chibaguy	yeah, fundamentally it's pretty simple.	[03:45]
ildefonso	you know, I have been running away from css for far too long, I'm not a serious web developer, so.... ok, # are for id and "." are for class???	[03:46]
chibaguy	go to http://www.w3schools.com/css/ and play with their online examples. to see how things work	[03:47]
ildefonso	weeee!!!! thanks!	[03:47]
chibaguy	that's the level of question you should answer yourself by working through a tutorial, etc. :-) when it comes to tikiwiki specific problems, that's where i come in. :-)	[03:47]
ildefonso	yeah, but I was too confused to even draw the line between tiki and css...	[03:48]
chibaguy	ok, so after some exposure to CSS basics, the tiki stuff will be a lot clearer.	[03:49]
ildefonso	now, the: To customize the menu's CSS id (#): {menu id=X css_id=custom_name} <--- on the page: tiki-admin_menus.php should really be reviewed, it looks like it was the solution for the menu thing (fastest solution) .... because that way one can, easily, have different styles for different menus. thanks a lot chibaguy! now: reading.	[03:51]
chibaguy	actually the menus do have different ids, but they are assigned automatically by the script. you can find them in the page source. they are based on the menu id number. <ul id="cssmenu1" class="cssmenu_horiz menu43"> for example note that this menu has both an id and two classes.	[03:53]
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chibaguy	so I don't know about that menu admin page's example of assigning an id. I think that may be out of date.	[03:56]
ildefonso	right, that was exactly what confused me when I was trying to "just take the classes and assign styles" from the page source....	[03:56]
chibaguy	well, i see the page says "css_id=custom_name" for the menu syntax. this would be part of what you enter in a module or template. but the look and feel admin page doesn't have any way to enter an id for the topbar menu.	[03:59]
ildefonso	mmm.....	[04:00]
chibaguy	(and, really, it doesn't need to, since the menu there gets an id anyway)	[04:00]
ildefonso	Custom code?	[04:00]
chibaguy	yeah, you could use custom code. but every menu already has a unique css identifier, built-in, so there's no need to add "id="mynewmenu" or anything,	[04:01]
ildefonso	ok, so the css added to the menu is always the same for that menu, independently of the place where I put the menu? now, a TW question: I just added a "separator" for the menu, but it isn't showing :( ..... how can I separate every menu option using a "\|" ?	[04:02]
chibaguy	Generally speaking, the css will be the same no matter where the location. But if you put the menu in a location where a parent has a property with an !important declaration, that could override a property in the menu. Or there can be other influences, but you need to ge the basics first.	[04:05]
ildefonso	already doing so. reading the doc.	[04:06]
chibaguy	If you mean separate top-level items in a horizontal menu graphically, that's usually done with a border-right property on the item's link <li> or <a> or with a background image, depending on the design.	[04:06]
ildefonso	ok, the design: HOME \| OUR CLIENTS \| CONTACT US ...... just like that. I understand how to add the border-right property, but ... in TW's menu editor, it should be possible ... I guess. the question is: how?	[04:07]
chibaguy	No, that's a visual issue, not a function of the menu construction. ok, the menu editor could do it by making a menu item whose name is "\|", but that'd be a kludgy approach. ;-)	[04:09]
ildefonso	and the \| would be a link.	[04:10]
chibaguy	yep much better to leave the styling to css.	[04:10]
ildefonso	let's say that one modify the border-right property, wouldn't it show somthing like: HOME \| OUR CLIENTS \| CONTACT US \| ? I mean, it would apply to every menu item. and... what about the last one? what does the "separator" type means for a menu? it doesn't seem to produce anything on the output for my menu....	[04:12]
chibaguy	There's what's called a first-child pseudo class that allows you to style separately the first child among siblings, so you could give a border-left to the items and then give no border or transparent border to the first child. I believe the separator is so if you have a menuSection with options and then you want the next item to be not an option under that section, but instead on the top level again. the separator is like a stopper at the end of the child items. yes, it doesn't produce anything visually. but should change the menu by locating the following option item.	[04:15]
ildefonso	ok. so, for separating drop down menus....	[04:18]
chibaguy	sorry, got a skype call. be back later.	[04:19]
ildefonso	ok. I decided to remove the menu, and create it with html code... not so elegant: but works :( .	[04:20]
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ildefonso	ok, thanks chibaguy! I'm a lot closer to finish my site now!	[04:47]
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Beestje	hmmmm.... i'm getting a lot of php warnings when i turn on the php error messages, can't remember the site to paste multiple lines of code/errors ....	[07:41]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r23523 10/branches/4.x/ (templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl tiki-admingroups.php): - Improved clarity of the group inclusion part of the group admin dialog.	[07:55]
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mike	good morning	[08:11]
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Guest68278	I would like to comment the problem I have about sessions It was not finally a tikiwiki problem It was a problem of the php module which can not write the file session that php writes when starting the session really weird problem if you want to add some notes in the installation about that, i can provide more information other open issue i have when you add a new opotion to the horizontal menu for a special group , this option is seem by the admin the problem is that when you add several groups, and several option for each group the administrator finish having a horizontal menu with lot of options of all the groups is there any way to avoid this?	[08:11]
coaboa	guest 6.. maybe there are better ways but you could use a subadmin for general admin work (could have all perms except annoying large content/menus) and hide those menus to subadmin. its a workaround	[08:28]
chibaguy	I don't know how the menu is structured, but what if there is one top-level item called "groups" or something, and it contains "group a", "group b" etc. below/within it, and each of these in turn is a parent menu item containing the group's actual menu items. Is that clear? the items are still all there, but not displayed except for the top one that contains everything else in second- and third-level dropdowns.	[08:36]
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chibaguy	I'd put the top "Groups" menu item close to the left end of the menu so there's plenty of space for the dropdowns to expand down and to the right. (well, depending on the design. maybe not necessary.)	[08:40]
brankom	Btw, what would be the replacement for the FAQ feature in 4.0? (since it says it'll be phased-out)	[08:44]
chibaguy	brankom, I haven't heard anything specific, but I imagine maybe trackers or a profile that uses trackers and a wiki page.	[08:45]
brankom	I see, thanks ;)	[08:45]
Beestje	could anyone point me to the site that's supposed to be used to paste bits of code in so you can have a look at it? :)	[08:46]
brankom	Beestje: Maybe pastebin.com ?	[08:47]
Beestje	aha :) thanks	[08:47]
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mike	thank you for your hints about the menus	[08:50]
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brankom	Btw, the "Only directly included" part of setup for groups means that, say, if I set permissions for Anonymous, and Registered includes Anonymous, and some other group, say Test, includes Registered, then Test doesn't include permissions of anonymous as well?	[08:53]
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chibaguy	seems like it, to me. but when I add a group, contrary to that description, the group inherits _all_ of the perms of the immediate parent + grandparent i made an editors group, which inherits registered perms. Then I made a supereditor group, and it inherits editor perms. but it also gets registered and anon perms. This is in branch 4.x, following the latest commit by Alain. so either the description or the functionality is not right.	[08:55]
luciash	polom	[09:02]
brankom	chibaguy: That kind of tree-thing might be more natural :)	[09:02]
chibaguy	which tree thing? hi luciash	[09:03]
brankom	chibaguy: The permissions stuff.	[09:05]
chibaguy	sorry, I'm not sure what you mean.	[09:06]
brankom	Well, the inheritance from grand-parents. Recursive permissions./ Although, every user must be in the 'registered' group, so it might not be it :)	[09:08]
chibaguy	Using tiki-objectpermissions.php, the permissions are cumulative. they trickle down from anon to registered to editors to supereditors to mastereditors (my test). no way to take away a perm if it's in the perms of an 'inherited from' group. which actually makes sense to me. I don't know why a supereditor would have fewer perms than a normal editor.	[09:17]
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chibaguy	Getting back to your question, brankom, I think the way it's written now on tiki-admingroups.php is more clear. "Inherit permissions directly from following groups." [list of all groups] Then when editing an existing group it says "Also inheriting permissions from the following groups (indirect inheritance through the groups selected above)." [list of groups that perms are inherited from indirectly] (in current branch 4.x) svn	[09:23]
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chibaguy	bbl	[09:38]
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Beestje	tracker Q : is it possible to assign permissions to individual trackers? e.g. : group users can view tracker items but not modify them, but admins can? ah ... never mind. was looking for the permissions button at the bottom, but it seems to be the green key icon at the top :)	[10:00]
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chibaguy	re	[10:03]
luciash	wb :)	[10:04]
brankom	Hm... Which permissions are required for regular (registered) users to place pages in categories? I _think_ I turned on all the necessary ones, but... When regular user's editing the page, he can't see the "Category" tab.	[10:08]
luciash	tiki_p_view_categories, tiki_p_view_categorized, tiki_p_edit_categorized	[10:10]
brankom	Weird, I can't see the ones with 'categorized'	[10:14]
luciash	sorry, i talk about 3.x	[10:14]
brankom	Ah	[10:15]
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chibaguy	I'm kind of lost about categories and perms, especially in 4.x.	[10:16]
xavi	toctoc anybody knows how to disable intertiki directly through the db? I?m testing the upgrade of edu.tw.o in my localhost, but it complains that invalid xmlrpc key (of course)	[10:17]
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xavi	and I search the db for "intertiki" and set as "n" all the ones relaetd to intertiki feature	[10:18]
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xavi	also did set to "n" the xmlrpc feature, but no way, it still complains that invalid xmlrpc key... so I must be missing something... I cannot login as user with admin rights	[10:18]
brankom_	tiki_p_modify_object_categories Maybe that one. Yep, it is.	[10:19]
xavi	brankom_: if you could help us updating http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Permissions , that would be very welcome	[10:26]
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brankom_	xavi: When I manage to find some time, sure thing :)	[10:33]
xavi	thanks brankom_ :-)	[10:34]
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brankom_	xavi: Should I join in as "TikiWiki community members"?	[10:37]
xavi	yes, please :-)	[10:37]
rodrigo_sampaio	hello xavi!	[10:37]
xavi	hi rodrigo_sampaio! :-)	[10:37]
rodrigo_sampaio	xavi: I saw your email about wiki creole in moodle and I'm about to reply it	[10:38]
xavi	great! :-)	[10:38]
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hr	hi Hop it's not another idling chan	[10:39]
brankom_	Btw, you should try getting some valid certificate for the https if possible :)	[10:40]
hr	so my question is is it possible with clean urls to get some kind of path to a page using some kind of namespace thing as in other wikis	[10:40]
brankom_	Hm... I can't login?	[10:42]
hr	like http://mysite/category1/category2/mypage	[10:43]
xavi	hr: read http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Clean+Urls	[10:44]
luciash	hr: i think you would need to modify .htaccess	[10:44]
hr	yeah I know that	[10:45]
brankom_	xavi: I've managed to login into the main tikiwiki.org site, but as for doc one...	[10:45]
hr	is it _possible_ or not? e/ws 19	[10:45]
xavi	hr: you'll have to tweak the rewrite rules probably (so I don't know whether it's possible or not, I?m not rewrite rule-guru)	[10:46]
hr	but I don't see the page using the categories for example in the url so the rewrite won't help	[10:46]
chibaguy	hr, see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Clean+Urls	[10:47]
hr	ok, I'm not stupid and can read and I read it already if it's the only answer I'm not really further than when arriving	[10:47]
chibaguy	true but you're asking questions that could be answered by reading the page.	[10:48]
hr	not really	[10:48]
luciash	hr: probably not then, bye	[10:48]
xavi	to answer my own intertiki question ealier: I found a workaround: I added my on localhost as a testsite for intertiki (added a new intertiki client at tw.o). So I have finally been able to log in my local testing edu.tw.o site	[10:48]
hr	haha of course	[10:48]
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chibaguy	what a f#cked attitude	[10:48]
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jonhattan	hi	[11:34]
luciash	hi	[11:35]
xavi	bbl	[11:38]
jonhattan	I've done a migration 1.9 > 4.0. It seems admin user has lost privileges "You do not have permission to use this feature" everywhere :s any tip?	[11:40]
Guest56025	you may upgrade first to 3.x and then to 4.0 migrating directly to 4.0 is really tough	[11:44]
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jonhattan	I did php installer/shell.php I can try to upgrade to 3 and then 4. no problem :)	[11:46]
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jonhattan	thnks	[11:47]
luciash	jonhattan: you need to manually create group Admins i think or add tiki_p_admin to the admin user it is a known issue	[11:49]
jonhattan	ok. as I'm a newbie I'll excersive myself with another migration :)	[11:50]
luciash	ok, give it a try	[11:54]
jonhattan	mm well I did a quick look to the db I already have a Admin group	[11:55]
luciash	Admins	[11:55]
jonhattan	and just added (Admin, tiki_p_admin) to users_grouppermissions	[11:56]
luciash	not Admin	[11:56]
jonhattan	admins is the group description	[11:56]
luciash	but if you assign this group to admin, it should work too	[11:56]
jonhattan	user admin, group Admin, permission tiki_p_admin	[11:57]
luciash	yep	[11:57]
jonhattan	now I can access tiki-admin.php :)	[11:57]
amette	guys - whoever did that - I love the face of tw.o - awesome first impression! :)	[12:02]
luciash	amette: heh, hi bro, seems you hasn't been there for long time ;)	[12:02]
amette	yeah, I haven't - I saw the discussion about a box replacing the download button, but didn't look at the site conciously in a long time...	[12:03]
luciash	you mean the community tw.o ? → http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php	[12:04]
amette	... put it on your big monitor in full screen mode and zoom in so that it fits in width to the monitor... ... you could do a quick improvised talk with that and it would look good! nod Nope... info.tw.o... which _should_ be tw.o imho!	[12:04]
luciash	ah, okay	[12:05]
amette	oh man... once the internet gets lowered to GPRS-speed... it really gets tedious to load thost site.... yawn	[12:06]
luciash	i just put the Download "box" and the white quote on top left ;)	[12:06]
amette	can't see it - still loading.... :P	[12:07]
luciash	hmm, you already saw it, nope ? ;) but it's true it zooms pretty nicely in Chromium	[12:07]
brankom_	I may have found some JS cross-site thingie on one of the bugs, btw.	[12:10]
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luciash	brankom_: if it's about security, write to security@tikiwiki.org please	[12:11]
brankom_	Ok, but could someone verify it just for a moment?	[12:11]
luciash	not in public please	[12:11]
brankom_	Hm... Security through obscurity?	[12:11]
luciash	nope security without exploitation	[12:12]
brankom_	Well, I don't know what triggers it, I just found out that some hover-over thing had taken me who knows where.	[12:13]
luciash	if you publish exploit before we have time to fix it it is "bad thing" generally is it about one of the bug reports on dev.tw.o ?	[12:13]
brankom_	Ok, sent away. luciash: Yeah, hovering over one of them took me to some blank page with "joe@joe.com" written on it.	[12:17]
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tikitry	hello folks. can you please tell me when 3.3 LTS were released and if/when 4.0 will become LTS (if so ever). what do you think. we are discussing a use of tikiwiki for business-intranet	[12:21]
brankom_	Btw, when creating a new user as administrator, and checking the "Send e-mail" button, a mail got sent, but looked a little bit messed-up (subject empty, some headers of the mail got in the middle of text etc).	[12:21]
tikitry	sry. not "released". i want to ask when 3.3 became its status of LTS. is there an ongoing discussion on this topic somewhere? forget it. already browsing the devel-list archives....	[12:25]
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chibaguy	Similar to our talks about the tikiwiki brand, project name, product name, KDE brand is being "repositioned" - http://dot.kde.org/2009/11/24/repositioning-kde-brand	[15:50]
xavi	oups: replygin to tw.o forums shows scary "Error" (notice) to me still: Notice: this variable may not be empty: $_POST["thread_sort_mode"] and my answer was not saved :-/ http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&forumId=15&comments_parentId=35393	[15:52]
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xavi	chibaguy, I was thinking about the header design thing for images... I was wondering if the banner feature could be somehow reused	[15:59]
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xavi	in such a way that a "special" banner is defined, which takes rectangular images (with certain dimensions) from a file gallery, and shows them under the semi-transparent header, one at a time (1 for each page view)	[16:01]
chibaguy	maybe. I was thinking that maybe there are two approaches: one is to have a script to dynamically change the background image for the css div. the other is to actually load images, and use z-indexes to put the sitelogo/title on top.	[16:02]
xavi	...instead of looking for jquery-based solutions, if not quick to find	[16:02]
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xavi	ok, whatever you consider it's the easiest approach	[16:03]
chibaguy	btw, have you tested banners recently? i hope they are working ok now. when i checked maybe in early tiki 3, they didn't seem to work.	[16:03]
xavi	mmm, they seem to work in side column (they kept working after upgrade from 2.4 to 3.3) but I have to test a customer who reported that top zone banner was no working after upgrade s/test a/test the site from a	[16:08]
chibaguy	when I was testing themes, I tried to use the banner admin to put a banner in the site header, but failed.	[16:11]
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grobda24	Is there a difference between "Slideshows" and the "Slides" button on wiki pages ? I have checked the docs but I'm still confused as to why I cannot enable a slides button as there is on the docs site. Is it a TW 4 only feature (I have 3) ?	[17:25]
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Tricia	syntax question: is there a tikiwiki equiv to nesting dotted & numbered lists ??	[17:28]
grobda24	Tricia, http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Lists&highlight=lists	[17:29]
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Tricia	thanks grobda24 !	[17:49]
grobda24	np	[17:50]
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xavi	grobda24: you might need to add some title bar in your page for the "slides" button to show up, as far as I remember :-) and it's a feature from tiki 1.x :-)	[18:11]
grobda24	xavi, ok thanks. I checked the page on the doc site and it had no titlebar in it, and shows slides button ? Anyway, I'll try.	[18:12]
xavi	-= Title bar (slide 1) =- text text... [intro] -= Title bar (slide 2) =- text ... grobda24: which page? (url, please)	[18:12]
grobda24	I wonder if there is a way to do this for all pages as I'm using it as an accessibility feature - high contrast text for partially sighted.	[18:13]
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grobda24	xavi, http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Slideshow+Admin&structure=Documentation I looked at the source and there is no -=title=-	[18:15]
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xavi	grobda24: hahaha... you've seen another (minor) bug :-) that page has: 'titlebar' ( -=title=- ) with ~np~ tags, but they are not properly excluded from the parser, I guess you can add anew bug report for that at dev.tw.o :-) click on the "slide" button and you'll see what I mean	[18:17]
grobda24	oh, ok wish I had time to put the bug in	[18:18]
xavi	and please, grobda24, if you could update that doc. page with this information (you need to have some title bar for the button to show up), even better! well, if you have time to ask, you haev time to fill in a bug report and update the documentation page with the answer (not today if in a hurry, but It would be very nice of you if you could do that) otherwise this is not sustainable	[18:19]
grobda24	I offer help here to other users. I make sure I give something back, don;t worry	[18:20]
xavi	ok, sure oups, grobda24: in fact, that information is already in the doc page! (did you read the whole page in advanced?): "!!Slideshows require a titlebar !!" (explanation)	[18:22]
grobda24	Yes I wanted to add it by default to all pages, but there might be another feature I can use for that	[18:24]
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Crazydc	hello is any one here	[19:54]
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Crazydc	!help	[19:54]
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Crazydc	msg tikiwiki\|bot !say #tikiwiki CrazyDc Wants Help Could Some One Help Him Please	[19:55]
xavi	Crazydc: just ask bbl	[19:55]
Crazydc	ok well i have split the page i would like to be able to put a lin down the middle the page is www.wiki.active-samp.co.uk also line spacing is massive	[19:56]
xavi	Crazydc: I would say: add a centered ::text:: out of the split	[19:57]
Crazydc	i dont want it out tho	[19:58]
xavi	line spacing: you have to tweak the css I guess	[19:58]
Crazydc	i got it there as i would like a line there inbetween the two bits i just seeing if u could do it with out having to mess with it lots to get it to do it	[19:58]
xavi	read the details of http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginSplit to find out how far can you go with that (using @@@ syntax or whatever). Sorry, I don't know more myself. (I usually do trial and error and end up with the text where I want in most cases) walk the dog time. bbl	[19:59]
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Crazydc	lol ok thanks any way	[20:00]
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luciash	hola xavi, got pm	[21:04]
changi\|packaging	changi\|packaging just to say : if some of you could test the debian package http://dev.tikiwiki.org/DEB+Packaging	[21:05]
luciash	changi\|home: where it installs ? will it overwrite my local tiki sites ?	[21:05]
changi\|packaging	in /usr/share/tiki/ i don't think it will	[21:05]
luciash	ok, how does it link to /var/www ?	[21:06]
changi\|packaging	apache config file :) no need to be in /var/www	[21:06]
luciash	okay, i will give it a shot	[21:06]
changi\|packaging	just give me your feedback by mail changi@two thx a lot i will create the tiki4 this WE now got to sleep	[21:07]
luciash	ah, i thought there is already installable deb linked from that page :-p	[21:07]
changi\|packaging	http://archives.tikiwiki.org/debian/main/t/tiki/tiki_3.3.0-1_all.deb	[21:08]
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luciash	ah, there is, thank you	[21:09]
changi\|away	you're welcome	[21:09]
luciash	changi\|home: W: Failed to fetch http://archives.tikiwiki.org/debian/pool/main/t/tiki/tiki_3.3.0-1_all.deb 404 Not Found is the result attempting to install it via synaptic xavi: toctoc ?	[21:16]
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xavi	toctoc :-) dinner finsihed xavi downloading the deb package xavi is testing it on a knoppix 6.2 iso throgh virtual box :-)	[21:41]
luciash	xavi: pm xavi: the deb package doesn't work for me localhost/tiki says 404 only the direct link downloaded file installed, but doesn't work (the archive specs has wrong link) s/has/have	[21:47]
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xavi	mmm, knoppix is buggy. I don't know whether the deb worked or not. I'll give it another try tomorrow g'night	[22:55]
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