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   patrickallard: Salut, est-ce que quelqu'un saurait comment écrire dans un tpl  {if $page eq "Réalisations"}{/if} pour que ça fonctionne avec l'accent é?
   sylvieg: tpl doit etre ut8 au moins
   patrickallard: ok
   sylvieg: apres .. {if preg_match('/R.alisations/', $page}
   <br> mais si tpl en utf8 cela deevrait marcher
   patrickallard: ok je vais essayer la solution 2 car la 1 marche pas
   <br> j'y arrive pas
   <br> mais pas grave, jej vais continuer à chercher
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   sylvieg: sinon verifie que tu as mbstrinbg dans phpinfo - sinon demande a ton hevbergeur
   patrickallard: ok merci
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   ndowens: is there a good site that can show how to convert html templates to tikiwiki templates
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   ndowens: anyone
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   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r23681 10/branches/4.x/tiki-blog_rss.php: [FIX] Allow access to individual RSS feeds even if main Blog RSS feature is unchecked so long as individual blog RSS is enabled
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   <br> tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r23683 10/branches/4.x/templates/tiki-view_blog.tpl: [FIX] Make sure on clicking on comments link that it scrolls down to the comments area
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   ibrrorg: is there anything that would cause "MySQL server has gone away" to appear about 1 in 15 times?  i took a new site, migrated it to 4.0 and have updated the dbase twice now
   <br> when i reload the page it goes away
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   nkoth: is it taking long before the rror comes?
   <br> maybe it exceeded the mysql timeout for a query
   <br> You can change the time limit by setting the wait_timeout  variable when you start mysqld. You could also find out if you have slow query logging which one it is and let us know - we would like to know. Is this a big site?
   ibrrorg: sorry, reading on stuff...no i have maybe 5 pages  how do i do what u described?
   nkoth: <u>ibrrorg</u>: hmm, if you do find anything, you can file a bug at dev.tikiwiki.org
   <br> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/gone-away.html
   ibrrorg: thank you
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   logging: I am trying to configure tikiwiki for initial setup, but I am in a continuous loop of requiring to login.  Does anybody know what is up with this?
   <br> It is tiki3 installed with fantistico.
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   logging: I am configuring tikiwiki right now after a fantastico install, but I am stuck in a contuous loop.  I am continuously being required to log in while navigating.  Does anyone know what this problem is?
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   logging: I am configuring tikiwiki right now after a fantastico install, but I am stuck in a contuous loop.  I am continuously being required to log in while navigating.  Does anyone know what this problem is?
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   logging: !help
   Tikiwiki|bot: You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
   logging: I am configuring tikiwiki right now after a fantastico install, but I am stuck in a contuous loop.  I am continuously being required to log in while navigating.  Does anyone know what this problem is?
   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r23686 10/trunk/pics/icons/ (eye.png no_eye.png): - Changed the watch icons (submitting it on trunk to see if it will pass muster there ;-))
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   chibaguy: polom
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   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23687 10/trunk/lib/ (8 files in 7 dirs): [MOD] no changes - zend recommandations
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   mat-in: Hello community... I was going to upgrade my tiki, so i re-activated a long gone account. After login I get:  Since your last visit...    [toggle]  Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 41943040 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2959361 bytes) in /var/www/tikiwiki.org/templates_c/en-us^%%F8^F87^F8728316%%module.tpl.php on line 109
   <br> I guess, i have a theme selected that is no longer valid or something like that?
   <br> ups... just read the whole headline... where do i paste errormessages then?
   coaboa: mat-in: hello, maybe you need to increase memory limit in your php.ini (or ask your admin todo so)
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   mat-in: uh... no, you did not understand the problem... i re-activated an account on tikiwiki.org and got this error message!
   <br> I am here to tell you people to do something about it...
   <br> my site is running fine (but on tiki1.99)
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   aki: :-)
   <br> I'd really appreciate help with two problems:
   <br> 1. some templates in myold wiki (2.4) have been modified. I'm upgrading to 3.3. How can I automatically detect and migrate (merge) those changes?
   mat-in: sorry, trying to upgrade an old wiki myself right now... (2.3 to... 3.? or 4.?)
   <br> want to start a forum thread and ask those questions together?
   aki: 2. The directory containing tikiwiki 3.3 is clean (just unzipped), I've run install-script, only the database is old (upgraded). Take a look at:
   <br> http://www.mini.pw.edu.pl/tikiwiki-3.3/tiki-index.php
   <br> There seems to be some problem with toggling my menu -- what should I search for?
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   chibaguy: polomagain
   <br> I just noticed that the user information on mouseover doesn't seem to be happening. As far as I can tell, the options are turned on for it. Does anyone know about this?
   <br> Ah, I see the setting in my user prefs got changed at tw.o, during an upgrade i guess, so the mouseover info is working there now.
   <br> Yes, ok, working generally. Another reminder to check prefs first.
   mat-in: how can I find the user name of the MySQL user that tiki utilises to connect to my database? there is two users for my daabase in web-admin panel
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   mat-in: local.php... found it :)
   aki: AFAIK problem occures if a "dynamic extended" paremater is set for menus. Why?
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   chibaguy: aki, I don't think there's a way to "automatically" detect the changes from 2.4 to 3.3. You should read the docs on upgrading, regarding themes, if you haven't already.
   mat-in: any recommendations for upgrading to 3.x or 4.0 besides that 3.x is more stable?
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   chibaguy: did you read http://info.tikiwiki.org/Download ?
   <br> aki, your top menu needs to be either a php layers menu or css (suckerfish) menu.
   <br> I'm not sure what is happening at the site. I thought the admin page restricted the topbar menu to those two types.
   <br> Well, if you have modified template files, then problems are likely. It is possible to compare template files in 2.4 and 3.3, to see what has changed. Then make those changes in your modified files.
   mat-in: <u>chiba</u>: yes, i came across the page, when downloading both versions ;) but it says close to nothing about the features... both versions seem to have a lot more than 2.3
   <br> and the "full changelog" holds a lot of thechnical fixes that are not important to me.
   chibaguy: ah, there are feature pages at doc.tikiwiki.org for each version, I believe.
   mat-in: guess if i take the time to upgrade every uneven year, i could directly go to 4.0
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   mat-in: sql and installation folder backup done
   <br> if i do "install over existing" will it import my games, the users uploaded avatars, etc. too or will they just be around as junk files?
   chibaguy: The games directory will still be there, but the feature has been removed.
   <br> The thinking was that the games are just flash files, so a wiki page could be used instead, linking to the games.
   <br> users' avatars and other uploaded things should be untouched. but you should back up everything, to be safe.
   mat-in: yes, already did a fresh dump of the full sql database with the settings instructed in backup page and i did copy all of my installation folder to my harddrive, too
   <br> guess i just have to make a wikipage + a games category then and everything else should be fine
   <br> 9200 files to go
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   mat-in: 6100 files
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   mat-in: can I save some webspace by deleting/uninstalling language packs that I do not need?
   <br> (installing 4.0 rightnow)
   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23688 10/trunk/pics/icons/ (eye.png no_eye.png): rollback 23686: there is no consensus on this one + the no_eye has no transparent background
   sylvieg: I suppose alain will be very angry with me - I do the rollback because the no_eye has no transparent background . If it had been a very good design I would have wait for other
   chibaguy: mat-in, yes.
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   mat-in: to remove a language, i simply delete the folders under /lang/ ?
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   sylvieg: mat-in yes
   <br> if you want to be clean (if you still use multilingual - you perhaps have to update lang/langmapping.php
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   mat-in: how do I do that? (well, yes, open the file and edit... something?)
   sylvieg: yes but I am not sure it is needed
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   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23691 10/trunk/ (25 files in 10 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/4.x 23661 to 23690
   mat-in: got 6 SQL errors upgrading the database from 2.3 to 4.0... what to do?
   sylvieg: depends on the errors
   mat-in: duplicate key names and duplicate entry errors with "tiki tracker" and "tiki menu options" and "tiki transition"
   <br> guess since the tables / entrys already exist, I'm fine?
   sylvieg: duplicate is not very impoertant - probably previous bug that are tied up now
   mat-in: will save the erroro text and have a look if it's working
   <br> hmpf... now i get the erroro message "  SQLSTATE[HY000] [2005] Unknown MySQL server host '127.0.0.1:3307' (3)" got to go to local.php and change something there?
   <br> 4.0 does not have any local.php in it's core folder :(
   sylvieg: no it is created by the installer
   mat-in: (and yes: i did give the right username and password in the installer and the old file was present)
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   mat-in: can i upload the old file? or un-lock and re-run the installer?
   <br> ... the installer was able to log in and update my database... so why is it unable to connect now? *looks confused*
   <br> found the "new" local.php file in /db/ folder... only thing changed was the db_version.
   <br> may be too complicated to discuss here. I set up a topic on the help Board for it. Please have a look :-(  http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&amp;forumId=6&amp;comments_parentId=35478
   Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: DB error after upgrade 2.3 &gt; 4.0 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&amp;comments_parentId=35478
   chibaguy: I'd like to be able to have page-specific CSS. What would people think about adding a CSS id to the body tag? But since wiki page names can have characters that aren't valid for CSS ids, maybe the page id could be used, like id="page23".
   sylvieg: <u>chibaguy</u>: I got the same wish too
   <br> Jyhem addes the subscetion - wondering what i did with that for wiki page
   chibaguy: Otherwise, the page needs to categorized and a style added that way, which seems like more overhead.
   sylvieg: added the subsection
   chibaguy: I just see &lt;body class="tiki_wiki_page" &gt; now.
   <br> I didn't really follow what Jyhem's changes were for.
   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03pingus * r23692 10/mods/trunk/features/aulawiki/lib/workspaces/resourceslib.php: [ENH] will return an addable resource type only if prefs feature for that type is enabled
   sylvieg: I think you can do in tiki-iondex.php $section_class = "page $pageId"
   <br> not sure about the pageId
   <br> and the class will be added
   chibaguy: $page_id, but I don't understand how you mean.
   <br> this works, in the body tag, in tiki.tpl : {if $page}id="page_id_{$page_id}"{/if}
   <br> then i get &lt;body id="page_id_7" class="tiki_wiki_page" onload="tikitabs(1,50);"&gt;
   sylvieg: very dangerous $page can be set but not $page_id
   -: mat-in stops biting fingernails and goes to get some coffee... anyone else want some?
   chibaguy: ah, ok. I should check for $page_id ?
   sylvieg: it is very risky... it is not a samty var
   <br> what about $smarty-&gt;assign('section_class', 'page'.$info['page_id']);
   <br> line 203 in tiki-idnex.php
   <br> tiki-index.php
   chibaguy: ok, that produces &lt;body class="tiki_page7" onload="tikitabs(1,50);"&gt;
   <br> so also does the job :-)
   <br> but what happened to class="tiki_wiki_page" ?
   sylvieg: ah did jyhem replace the clas...
   chibaguy: I don't see this in the body tag now.
   <br> it would be good to either add the class to the other one or or add an id, I imagine.
   sylvieg: ok so my idea is bad
   <br> better to set page_id in the php code
   <br> and to test the section
   chibaguy: how do you mean, in the php code?
   sylvieg: $smarty-&gt;assign('page_id', $info['page_id');
   <br> see my message also on csv about jyhem section_class
   chibaguy: ok
   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r23693 10/branches/4.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD]listpages: new option Display by default only pages in current language - a lot of people do not see that the filter is preselected
   luciash: polom polom
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: maybe it would do the job if you put jquery code in custom code head which adds the id as you need
   <br> and where you need (without the need to modify or touch the tpl or php)
   <br> or you need it working without js ?
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   mat-in: no sugestions about how i get the 4.0 running with my old DB? stupid site is completely down :(
   debelan: i`ve a problem with instalation of my tikiwiki 4.0 ... when i tri to install i wrote localhost and then i wrote my username and password for a db an then i click calidate and continue and i chose a language and when a click next  , he return meinto the front page and again i must enter a usename and password and i cant continua with a instalattion
   <br> yelp
   sylvieg: mat-in put the db name... user in the new local.php
   <br> and in tiki-install - upgrade your database
   <br> <u>debelan</u>: some errors have been reported - can you go to the url yoursite.com/tiki-index.php
   chibaguy: sorry, luciash, was afk
   debelan: SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
   chibaguy: yeah, could be done that way, but I thought if there's a simple, low-overhead way to add a unique body id or class for each wiki page, that'd be nice.
   luciash: mat-in: make sure all files were uploaded correctly
   sylvieg: <u>debelan</u>: check you usrname/password to the database
   debelan: i`ts riht i`ll chek it few times and i chnage it and againt does not work
   <br> i use xampp can be in the xampp problem
   <br> ?
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: well, just modify tiki.tpl and add something like id={$page|regex_replace:'/[^a-z0-9]/i':'_'}
   <br> if wiki page
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: well, you need to add some unique id to it anyway i think, otherwise pages named Go! and Go? would get same id="Go_"
   sylvieg: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/WatchIcon
   <br> I remember you had ideas...
   luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: i don't remember them already ;)
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: would need to dig it out from the ml ;)
   <br> &gt;whatis ml
   Sug4r: <u>Error</u>: No factoid matches that key.
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   luciash: &gt;learn ml as mailing list
   Sug4r: OK, here we go!
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   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: and id must start with letter, not number
   <br> so pages 123 id="123" would not validate
   <br> but you know all that ;)
   <br> anyway, maybe i would re-use title... (it would apply not only on wiki pages)
   mat-in: i got no files in the "transfer incomplete / interrupted" tab (FileZilla) and the DB settings are exactly the same as in the old installation. It was running until the update
   <br> the update did work well (except the 6 errors is posted in the forum) and the new local.php contains all the old version contained (DB name, username, password, etc
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: and this way you could easily see with having some warning color in css what pages are missing the title yet because all would get the same id="page" ;)
   mat-in: the database was upgraded to 2.something from 1.2
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   luciash: mat-in: does filezilla have some "synchronize" function ?
   <br> also i would try re-run the db upgrade (usually second run gives no sql errors for me)
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   chibaguy: luciash, i was thinking of using the page id, with 'page_id_' appended.
   luciash: mat-in: also make sure your URL path contains no spaces like http://some.tld/my tiki/ (Tiki 4.0 has a bug about that)
   chibaguy: to avoid the problem of invalid css id names.
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: but isn't page_id used only when you use structures ?
   mat-in: <u>luciash</u>: i can tell filezilla only to overrite older versions of a file... and try to upload again. let me try the re-upgrade
   luciash: there are ftp clients (like fireftp firefox extension or krusader) which will tell you if your files are in sync on ftp with your local extracted dir of tiki installation
   chibaguy: nope, every page has a page_id, it appears. anyway, i was testing on a page that's not in a structure.
   mat-in: tiki found an existing db connection... use connection... update db... 4292 queries no errors.
   <br> lock it, go to main page.   error: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2005] Unknown MySQL server host '127.0.0.1:3307' (3)
   <br> how can it update the DB without any trouble and then not be able to connect???
   luciash: try localhost:3307 instead
   mat-in: i put that in local.php file?
   luciash: maybe there's bug in tiki with using IP
   <br> yep
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: but it will work only for wiki pages, ok ?
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: but seems the best solution to me
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: is it that what sylvie suggested to you ?
   mat-in: Unknown MySQL server host 'localhost:3307' (1)
   <br> seems i changed the correct thingy but not to somethign working
   luciash: hmm, weird, maybe it doesn't like the port number, but that would be really bad
   mat-in: it worked with that number some hours ago and version 2.3
   <br> let me check what my host suggests?
   chibaguy: luciash, this is what I tried earlier, in the body tag in tiki.tpl: {if $page_id}id="page_id_{$page_id}"{/if}
   <br> which works
   luciash: mat-in: maybe try without the port number still
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   luciash: just localhost
   mat-in: my webhost suggests: 127.0.0.1:3307
   <br> will try without the port
   <br> no i get an "access denied for user blabla"...
   <br> but the password is correct... I did copy + paste it ut of local.php to get into phpMyAdmin because i did not remember it
   luciash: this is a bad bug because it disallows use of different port for mysql than the default one :( if it worked in 2.x it should work in 4.x too
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   luciash: mat-in: can you join tw.o and report the bug in the development area then ?
   debelan: Missing file: C:subdomainstaflibadodb/drivers/adodb-tiki.inc.php ???
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   luciash: <u>debelan</u>: can you use php-pdo mysql driver on your windows server ?
   <br> <u>debelan</u>: seems it looks for adodb driver instead but the path seems wrong to me
   debelan: how can i found it ?
   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r23694 10/branches/4.x/ (lib/prefs/wiki.php templates/tiki-admin-include-i18n.tpl): [MOD] Add this new setting to i18n admin panel, where people look when configuring multilingual site.
   luciash: on windows you usually just allow some dll file in php.ini
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   luciash: pdo.dll or something
   <br> <u>debelan</u>: sorry, i am no windows man
   debelan: and i but i work on windows
   mat-in: <u>luciash</u>: i am a member for some time now. reported it in "Forum: Architecture/Installation" hours ago to no response
   <br> luciash : http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&amp;forumId=6&amp;comments_parentId=35478 (want to move that topic if this is the wrong location?)
   chibaguy: mat-in, it isn't unusual to wait a day or so for a response in the forums.
   <br> and actually for that kind of question, you're more likely to get an answer here.
   mat-in: yeah, i know that a forum is not the fastest way to get an response, thi is why i tried here, too and I am only jumping up'n'down because it's not some "the site looks weird and nobody can dit their post" error but because it's completely down :(
   chibaguy: what did you upgrade from, again?
   mat-in: 2.3
   <br> actualy a 1.99 that was upgraded to 2.3 several month ago
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   chibaguy: did you check the server requirements for 4.0?
   <br> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Requirements
   mat-in: this is about how far i read: " If you are using standard shared hosting (external link), you can assume that the requirements are met, as Tiki is designed to run on shared hosting"
   <br> let me check the details as good as i can
   <br> ram is ok. webspace is triple the minimum. it is a MySQL5 DB (and was already in 2.3)
   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r23695 10/trunk/ (10 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] no changes - zend recommandations
   mat-in: <u>chibahuy</u>: i got no idea about installed php extensions...
   <br> but it seems to be an error connecting to the db anyway?
   chibaguy: maybe you could contact the hosting company and tell them what the error message was, etc.
   mat-in: did that. they tell me it's not their fault if some software cannot connect to the DB, they use the common standard settings
   <br> :(
   <br> it's just strange because it worked with the earlier version...
   <br> checking if the files were uploaded correctly... looking good so far.
   luciash: mat-in: better report it in the bug tracker in the development area (dev.tikiwiki.org)
   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r23696 10/trunk/pics/icons/palette_bg.png: [ENH] toolbars: better look for the background color palette icon (hopefully)
   mat-in: submitted it (i hope with the right tags)
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   mat-in: checked the uploaded files again... everything fine. db upgrade without errors. installer locked... still no connection to the db possible :(
   chibaguy: luciash, I don't really know the purpose of regex_replace, but I need to add something to the front of the page id number to use as a css id. how does this look? : {if $page_id}id="page_{$page_id|regex_replace:'/[^a-z0-9]/i':'_'}"{/if}
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   chibaguy: it produces: &lt;body id="page_7" class="tiki_wiki_page" onload="tikitabs(1,50);"&gt;
   <br> so it works, but I don't know if there's any risk or problem doing it like this.
   <br> dog walk time. bbl.
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   Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2914 - - unable to connect to DB after upgrade to 4.0 - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=2914
   chibaguy: re
   mat-in: wb
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   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: if page id is only number always the regex_replace is really not necessary
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: just remove everything after and including the "|"
   chibaguy: ok
   <br> thanks
   <br> I wonder if this should be committed to trunk or branch 4.
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   mat-in: if i delete all files, upload my backup, i also need to delete the upgraded db and restore the old one, right?
   luciash: trunk
   <br> mat-in: if you want rollback to previous tiki, yes
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   mat-in: got to, if i don't want the website to be offline for a couple of days i guess :(
   <br> or i could put up a stupid "ot of order for bug hunt, will be back in a day or two" sign
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   CIA-50: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r23697 10/trunk/templates/tiki.tpl: [ENH] CSS id "page_" using $page_id added to wiki page body tag to enable page-specific style.
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: btw, is it valid to have an id attribute on html tag ?
   chibaguy: hmm
   <br> i think so
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: it would be maybe better/useful because we need to set background on html tag in css to allow real full height backgrounds
   <br> because it seems to me that background on body element with floated layout unfortunatelly ends right after
   <br> when content is short
   chibaguy: actually I don't know if i've ever seen an id attribute on html tag. I just assumed it's ok, but don't know.
   luciash: i never seen it either but why not be first ;)
   chibaguy: http://annevankesteren.nl/2003/08/html-id
   <br> old page, though. was just googling.
   luciash: interesting, 2003
   <br> "* here's couple of suggestions using a "surveillance" watch cam icon (made from scratch):
   <br> "XHTML 1.0 Second Edition had been changed in this respect and allows the html element to have an id attribute."
   <br> oops, sorry, the previous paste was from the wikipage ;)
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: so it should be valid
   chibaguy: yeah, should be.
   <br> are you thinking of moving the page_id tag from body to html, or doing something different?
   luciash: exactly this
   <br> can you do a quick test if it makes any difference for your needs ?
   chibaguy: well, i was just about to go to sleep ;-)
   <br> i can test tomorrow tho
   luciash: #page_id_42 body ...
   <br> sure
   <br> :)
   <br> sleep well gary
   chibaguy: ok thanks
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   marclaporte: mat-in : maybe a PDO error
   <br> http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=35382&amp;topics_offset=5&amp;topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&amp;forumId=6
   <br> try this solution too: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&amp;forumId=6&amp;comments_parentId=35277
   <br> mat-in  : Tiki4 uses PDO. By adding $api_tiki='adodb'; in db/local.php, you can revert to "old" way
   <br> brb
   mat-in: got no idea what PDO is, but will have a look at the links, thanks a lot :)
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   mat-in: marclaporte : the DB seems to be working. The Page looks like a complete mess, but it's working.
   <br> argh!
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   mat-in: now that I am logged in I get: Fatal error: Call to undefined method RankLib::forums_ranking_last_topics() in /home/www/urpg/modules/mod-forums_last_topics.php on line 33
   <br> (it did solve the DB trouble, thanks! but the next error occured)
   <br> pages looks like a complete mess and when logged in, i get this new error messag
   marclaporte: hehe
   <br> You are using 4.0?
   mat-in: yes :-/
   <br> when reading "less stable then LTS version" i thought like "an error message now and then" not "a complete mess :-(
   marclaporte: hehe
   <br> well, it depends on the server
   <br> the DB error you are getting, for most people it's fine.
   mat-in: did not look like it was that complicated. the only thing I did not / could not check were the php add-on's installed by my provider
   marclaporte: But on a few server configs, it's not
   mat-in: gargh
   marclaporte: Now, for the modules, I suggest you move to pe 4.1
   mat-in: already had a MySQL5 db and all..
   marclaporte: pre 4.1
   mat-in: hmhmhm.... so i kill the 4.0 again and install the 4.1beta files?
   marclaporte: yes, but different servers are configured in various files.
   <br> yes, just copy 4.1 files over 4.0
   <br> and go to tiki-install.php to run upgrade script
   <br> if you have shell access, you could install via SVN
   <br> If you want to avoid all this, stay with 3.3
   mat-in: where do i get 4.1pre?
   marclaporte: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/download#Pre_release_packages_zip_files_
   chealer: mat-in: the important is to get rid of old files
   mat-in: hmhmhm. how is the upgrade situation? will I have to do an upgrade every week with 4.1pre? or will i install 3.3 and 4.1 perfect version will be out in january?
   <br> chealer : i installed over the old files of 2.3. could kill everything and install 4.1 or 4.0 or 3.3 or whatever or.... argh
   marclaporte: mat-in : I use pre 4.1 on many sites and it works very well
   <br> depends which of the 1000+ features/prefs that you use
   <br> mat-in : if you reliably report a bug in pre 4.1, we can try to fix
   <br> mat-in : 6 main *.tikiwiki.org sites run with pre 4.1
   <br> chealer : any specific old files you have in mind?
   mat-in: hehehe... i had several error messages with those, when reactivating my old account an "out of memory error" and several times when posting an "this and that variable cannot be empty"...
   <br> but it's working, yes
   <br> i got a "games" folder... that i will have to voncert to wiki pages with flash games on them anyway
   <br> but we used the file gallery a lot.
   <br> wiki and forum are stored in the DB in 2.3?
   <br> besides that I only got a babelfish plugin installed
   marclaporte: You use Games?
   <br> wiki &amp; forums: everything is in DB by default. You can set for attachments to be in File System
   mat-in: yes. it's a site to work on some fantasy / scifi game (with a background wiki, development forum, downloads) and for recreation of the helpers i installed games
   chealer: <u>marclaporte</u>: /home/www/urpg/modules/mod-forums_last_topics.php but there are quite a few more
   mat-in: could be that we did something to the last posted module... i don't remember
   <br> will delete the ftp files, upload 4.1 files.
   <br> do i need to kill the DB too, because it's onverted to 4.0 or should i keep it and upgrade it to 4.1?
   marclaporte: keep the DB
   <br> <u>chealer</u>:  so a 4.x installation over a previous version will still have some old modules?
   <br> mat-in : before you ugprade
   <br> let's get rid of old modules
   <br> to identify, secDB should help
   mat-in: where would user avatars be stored?
   <br> downloading # Future 4.x (branches/4.x from SVN) (external link) MD5 (external link)
   <br> how do i use secDB?
   marclaporte: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Security+Admin
   <br> so the steps
   <br> 1- While in Tiki 4.0, run SecDB to identify all files to be deleted
   <br> 2- After this, upgrade to Tiki 4.1pre
   mat-in: i get the error as soon as i log in...
   <br> no way to run another site
   marclaporte: (because pre 4.1 doesn't have proper signatures and thus will misidentify files)
   <br> mat-in : what about trying a fresh install of Tiki 4.0 ?
   <br> or even 4.1
   mat-in: just a fresh install and linking to the old DB?
   marclaporte: yes
   <br> of course, you have backups
   mat-in: yes, several DB and files backups, last one made just before upgrading into chaos
   marclaporte: <u>Chealer</u>: Do we have a list of files or a way to make a list of files which should be deleted?   because this is inaccurate then: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade#Install_over_existing
   mat-in: yes, that's the instructions i followed... deleted the styles as told
   marclaporte: I re-organize this page recently. I wasn't aware leftover files could do any harm except use up disk space
   <br> bbl
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   mat-in: branch-4-x zip does not seem to be a full installation?!
   -: mat-in does not get what files to upload for 4.1pre
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   mat-in: uploading 4.x latest now... i hope that is what you guys called 4.1 pre
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   ibrrorg: so i have a simple image that i loaded from my file gallery {img fileId="7" rel="box[g]"} and i want to make the text wrap around it.  the doc page for version 4 (which i have) doesn't have anything that looks like this.  is there something i can simply add to it to make the text wrap?  thank you
   mat-in: sorry, I am just trying to install 4.x myself. can you put it in html tags?
   ibrrorg: i suppose, but that would seem to be going back several steps and one forward so to speak.  i mean if the gallery loads a set of code and you have to recode everything why use any of it?
   <br> luciash helped me on the 4.0 (for pay) and is EXCELLENT in what he does BTW
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   ibrrorg: maybe that's not possible; the doc page dealing w/the issue all looks like pre-4 and doesn't use the fileid type of stuff.  it would seem (and i'm not a programmer) that there's a simple call or whatever one would put in the {...}
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   ibrrorg: {IMG (src=img/wiki_up/...{IMG} is how the doc shows it and when juxtaposed w/4.0 from gallery there is a stark difference.  maybe i'm just missing something?
   <br> ah, 'imalign' is the 'call/code'  i figure everyone is saying 'duh'  sorry to bother  sheepishly holds hat in hand
   marclaporte: :-)
   <br> The hidden feature syndrome :-)
   ibrrorg: yeah, it is really neat, though, that ya'll have this irc deal.  take me for instance:  no programming experience and a hobo, yet i can ask ?'s and learn at the same time!  other wikis aren't so accepting as that .
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   ricks99: hi all :-)
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   mat-in: yessss
   <br> marclaporte : it's ... working. 4.x is kind of running and kind of looking ok :)
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   marclaporte: polom
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   mat-in: marclaporte : 4.x is working... besides some minor things like... the need to re-do all the goups attributes and re-installing babelfish and the chat...
   macnific: Heloooooo Everybody!!!! Polom Polom... Yuppiii .How are you all?
   <br> Let's go to the questions... ;)
   chealer: <u>marclaporte</u>: yes, it apparently it will have some old modules
   <br> <u>marclaporte</u>: I would be surprised if we had a list. it can definitely be done, though I can't throw a one-liner that does it
   mat-in: is there a page where i can read about the "new" features from "new" menu? Kaltura? page list? mindmap?
   chealer: <u>marclaporte</u>: I guess we could fix the modules issue quite easily
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   mat-in: whenever i save settings of "new", "experimental", "global" functions, i get redirected to "developer" admin panel. is that a bug or a feature?
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   mat-in: fav-icon is not displayed on the error page, it uses tikiwiki favicon instead
   <br> argh! all wikipages names are ... lost.. messed up... gargh!
   <br> ah. setting friendly URLs messed it up
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