#tikiwiki 2009-12-23,Wed

Lucymoz

hey

pilif12p

I knows you!

Lucymoz

:)
I just idle here

pilif12p

heh
I'm trying to write a patch for sumo
let me look up the bug id
Lucymoz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399394
Kimberlee: Do you know much about this error ? http://tanner.is-a-geek.com/webroot/tiki-page_loader.php

Lucymoz

pilif12p: so what are you stuck on?

[06:47]

pilif12p

Lucymoz: Well, it won't load
Maybe i need to install tikiwiki?

[06:47]

Lucymoz

what won't load?

[06:48]

pilif12p

i dunno
i get an error
pilif12p chmod's

[06:48]

Lucymoz

I'm a bit lost, are you trying to install tikiwiki?

[06:48]

pilif12p

I think so(?)
chmod took care of that error
ffff

[06:49]

Kimberlee

pilif12p: I was afk, so you are good?

pilif12p

kinda

Kimberlee

heh

pilif12p

i need to install it
but
tiki-install redirects to index
Kimberlee: ^-

Kimberlee

have you run setup.sh?

[06:55]

pilif12p

mhmk
nno
sorry, i misread
someone on another network is really making me angry...
just ignore me...

[06:55]

Kimberlee

[06:57]

pilif12p

i think Lucymoz probably knows who i'm talking about ;)
i don't get it though...
setup.sh
coding at 1 am :P

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chibaguy

poliom
polom also
Is it possible to include a smarty template in wiki content?

[07:26]

pilif12p

chibaguy: Are you in the helping mood ?

[07:27]

chibaguy

I would like to use tiki-searchbar.tpl in custom header code.
pilif12p: I can try.

[07:27]

pilif12p

ok
chibaguy: so, pretty mich http://tanner.is-a-geek.com/webroot/index.php
*much
I ran install.sh

[07:27]

chibaguy

try going to tiki-install.php

[07:29]

pilif12p

i did
it redirects to index.html

[07:30]

chibaguy

well, when I install tiki, i don't use install.sh

[07:30]

pilif12p

[07:30]

chibaguy

I just put the files up, and run tiki-install.php.

pilif12p

maybe marclaporte will help me tomorrow...
its kinda different

chibaguy

pilif12p

It's a patch for mozilla sumo and stuff

chibaguy

what version of tiki is it?

[07:32]

pilif12p

i dunno
whatever sumo has

[07:32]

chibaguy

ah, ancient

[07:32]

pilif12p

all the sumodevs are on vacation now i think
3 iirc

[07:33]

chibaguy

sumo will be using Tiki 5 early next year, as I understand it.

[07:33]

pilif12p

I can check it out...

[07:34]

chibaguy

they forked at about tiki 1.10 (pre tiki 2)
but it has been modified a lot for specific sumo/firefox use, and imo is kind of a nightmare.

[07:34]

pilif12p

heh

[07:35]

chibaguy

things are done way differently than in tiki core code.

[07:35]

pilif12p

yeah

chibaguy

apparently does the job, but kind of unfamiliar to me.

pilif12p

yeah, it does

chibaguy

I've been helping with the theming of mozillamessaging.com, which will use the sumo code.

pilif12p

oh
are you on mozilla irc ever?

chibaguy

no, I've only communicated with a few guys via email and skype, etc.

pilif12p

ah
mhm... who?

chibaguy

roland tanlao and gozer

pilif12p

chibaguy

tanglao

pilif12p

no tmz?

chibaguy

no, don't believe so.

pilif12p

surprising :P

chibaguy

is he involved in mozillamessaging.com?

pilif12p

kinda
he's involved in lots of mozilla
QA, sumo, sumomo, mozillians, lots more...

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New Forum Posts: Files management - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35727

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New Forum Posts: FAQ feature being phased out -> to be replace by...??? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=35728

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CIA-63

tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24013 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_div.php: [FIX]DIV: changing default to empty and not none and avoid to have to important in css

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chibaguy

thanks, sylvieg :-)

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sylvieg

welcome - I hate so much !important...

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chibaguy

I thought that change would be ok for you. ;-)

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xavi

toctoc
I need some help with custom layout at a site header... in http://gavarrespedia.org
chibaguy ?
or luciash ? (the layout guru's :-) )
I did set some wiki code in site header area (using {wiki}{literal} tags {/literal}{/wiki}...
and sometimes, it displays properly, and sometimes it doesn't
by "properly", I mean: the image at the right hand side should move to the right end of the header, for instance, and it's not always doing it.
Nowadays it was displayed to the right when I saw the page as anons, and not when I did log in...

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xavi

and that's the code I'm using at L & F: http://pastebin.com/mca5ed8
any hint anybody?

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CIA-63

tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24014 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]rss: hidden prefs rss_basic_auth that ask for a http login box when a user has no perm to see the rss

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chibaguy

hi xavi, sorry, was away.

[14:34]

xavi

hi GAry. cooking time here. bbl :-)

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chibaguy

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ricks99

hi all :-)

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chibaguy

hi ricks99

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ricks99

is trunk broken? i just svn'ed up. and now get " System error. An error occured while performing the request."

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chibaguy

i haven't updated for a few days; i'll have a try.

[15:01]

ricks99

[15:04]

chibaguy

hm, seems to be normal here.

[15:07]

sylvieg

it is ok for me

[15:07]

ricks99

hm...
i can run the installer just fine
but when i try to enter tiki, i get "An error occured while performing the request."
probably something on my end....

[15:09]

chibaguy

in my case, it's win xp running wampserver2.

[15:10]

sylvieg

did you upgade your db?
is mysql running?

[15:14]

ricks99

y
brand new install - fresh db
4.1 zip works fine

[15:14]

sylvieg

do you have a table to repair?

[15:15]

ricks99

phpmyadmin says all tables are fine

[15:16]

sylvieg

your db/local.php is ok?

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ricks99

ahh.. adding $api_tiki='adodb'; to local.db worked. by why didnt i get the (expected) adodb error?

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sylvieg

did you allow error for anonymous?

[15:19]

ricks99

i had never logged in to tiki. this was a brand new install

[15:20]

sylvieg

you do not have pdo installed on this server?

[15:20]

chibaguy

I wonder why adding that line is needed (server clueless guy speaking here)

[15:20]

ricks99

its in the release notes ;-)
im running easyphp on winxp.

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sylvieg

we need to put a mesage or a choice in instal...

[15:21]

ricks99

how +1
or.. on the installer page where we test for memory, etc.

[15:21]

sylvieg

it will be too late... I think
ah non .. tikki-instal uses adodb?

[15:22]

ricks99

dont know. but i was able to complete the installer just fine.

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sylvieg

perhaps a class_exists('PDO') will do the job...

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RavenC

hello everyone

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xavi

back
hi RavenC
chibaguy still around ?

[16:00]

chibaguy

hi xavi
yep still here.

[16:00]

xavi

:-)

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chibaguy

So the problem is that the image isn't always at the far right side?

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xavi

have you ever noticed that behavior? after loging in, header behavior changes

L & F code is here: http://pastebin.com/mca5ed8

[16:01]

chibaguy

I have noticed at times in the past, the topbar menu didn't display until I logged in. But that didn't happen too often, so I never tracked down a cause.

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xavi

so using split for distribution of images at the header... for anon. everything works
as logged in, that split syntax doesn't work as expected, and the three images are shown alltogether aligne to the left
aligned

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chibaguy

I'm only seeing the image in the right-side cell, it seems.

[16:05]

xavi

anyway, I wonder what's the best way to have the side images (logo on the left and pic on the right) always on the sides, and having the center expanding as much as needed to fit the width in between

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CIA-63

tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r24015 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-create_webhelp.tpl tiki-create_webhelp.php): [ENH]Improved UI. Added message (output) reporting). Added LABEL elements to form for accessibility.

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xavi

don't you see the image on the left, this one: http://gavarrespedia.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=7

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chibaguy

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ricks99

@xavi: might need to use tables -- thats what i use

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chibaguy

if I put that url in my browser, it doesn't display. I just get the file download dialog.

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xavi

chibaguy, yes, it's fine. so you should see the image in the header
it's beig used with img src=http://gavarrespedia.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=7 ...
ricks99: oh well, I was wiling to use wiki syntax... how can you do that with wiki syntx?

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ricks99

{HTML()}<table>..... {HTML}

chibaguy

I see the site logo, I guess. Is that what the image is?

xavi

I know how to force the % width of each splitted part with SPLIT plugin, which is easier for me (wiki wiki)
chibaguy: yes, that's it
but once logged in, the display changes....

chibaguy

oh yeah. OK.

xavi

I'll create a test user for you to reproduce

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chibaguy

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xavi

there might be something different at the generated html

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chibaguy

this shouldn't matter, but I noticed the table cell widths don't match their contents' widths very closely.

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xavi

mmmm, as a new reg. user, everything is fine... :-/
still checking why with two users it doesn't work as expected....

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xavi

aha... the problem shows up when the user is an admin...

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chibaguy

this may not make a difference either, but I wonder why the div id="customcodewith_ad" is being used rather than just "customcode". Is a banner ad specified for the site header?

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xavi

mmm, I don't think so...
good question...
I was planning to set the image in a banner, so that the image changed each time from banners

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chibaguy

ah, that could be a key. when not logged in, div#header-top contains div#customcode. when logged in as admin, it contains #customcodewith_ad, which has 400px width.

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xavi

:-)

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chibaguy

I don't know why the two log-in states cause different div ids.
oh, maybe the ad is specified but not published or something like that.

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xavi

maybe admin can be shown some info up there....
to me this is a css issue (bug)
anyway, the solution: just removing the fixed width from that css #customcodewith_ad ?
I'll try that...
btw, logging off from this computer and soon again from another...

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chibaguy

yeah, that's good to try.

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CIA-63

tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24016 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: [MOD]RSS: give the opportunity to give the username and password in the feed param to be able to see a password protected feed on feed reader that do not accept autthentication (ex: outlook, google reader)

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chibaguy

actually, i just tried a local edit of the site css in firefox/firebug, and that fixed it (changed customcodewith_ad to customcode).
so it seems the 400px width is the problem.

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xavi

thanks chibaguy! that makes lots of sense to me
btw, off-topic, luciash, whenever you are back, you have to test the kde 4.3. File tagging in the file system! (using dolphin as file manager): video tagging finally possible!!! :-)
I have some personal homework for the next weeks : tagging the collection of 100 Gb of videos that I use for my classes... it won't be a nightmare to find a video anymore... :-)

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xavi

customsitewidth: auto in my customized theme did the trick, to overrride the settings in layout.css
I wonder if that setting is needed in layout.css to be with fixed width
using 3.3
anyway, time for fixing color issues to apparently merge images with bg

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chibaguy

xavi, is the customized theme you mentioned based on andreas08?

[16:57]

xavi

yes
customsitewidth_ad: auto did the trick, I meant

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chibaguy

customcodewith_ad ?

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xavi

#customcodewith_ad { width: auto}
yes, you are right (I'm fixing my other computer, and many keyboards and screens in front of me right now...

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chibaguy

the site identity options were kind of set up by guessing. I didn't really know what would be put in as custom code.

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xavi

oh well, very good guess by then, if that was the only issue :-)
Gary, the good guesser :-)

pilif12p

darn, still no marclaporte?

chibaguy

the 'customcode with ad' option was done thinking there would be a banner ad taking up a lot of the space, so only 400px width was allocated for custom code.
If something wide like your table of images is put in there, then the results would be unpredictable.

xavi

oh well, to me, since I discovered how to use wiki syntax there, it's being "the" way to handle easy headers from now onwards, with images...
table of images?
right now, just one image

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chibaguy

ah, ok.

xavi

and I was planning to play with banner instead of hardcoded image

chibaguy

pilif12p: maybe you should email him.

xavi

image in banner, and several banners like that in the same zome

chibaguy

or ask on the tikiwiki developers mailing list.

pilif12p

he came by mozilla irc but then he ping'd out

chibaguy

he seems to be pretty busy these days.

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xavi

chibaguy: the custom heder code (using split plugin): http://pastebin.com/mca5ed8
header

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pilif12p

Do you think you can help me?

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chibaguy

xavi, yes, I saw that
pilif12p: it's about installing the sumo code?

[17:05]

pilif12p

Yep
chibaguy: ^

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chibaguy

I had trouble trying to install on localhost and never did get it running. it seemed to want things some way I didn't know how to configure.
there's a lot of code modification to suit the mozilla site.

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pilif12p

Yeah...

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chibaguy

but I'm not very knowledgeable about server config, etc. so maybe you have a better chance. ;-)

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pilif12p

i'll poke around, all the sumo devs are on vacation though :/

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chibaguy

gozer did an install for me on one of their servers so I could test, in the end.

pilif12p

chibaguy

work with tiki core code. it's much easier. ;-)

pilif12p

heh
its a sumo-specific bug though

chibaguy

oh, ok.
anyway, gotta go now. see you all later.

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pilif12p

see ya'

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CIA-63

tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24017 10/trunk/tiki-editpage.php: syntax error

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pilif12p

CIA-63=bot?

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sylvieg

yes

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pilif12p

ah
i see

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mose

polom

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pilif12p

polom ?

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mose

yes, polom

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pilif12p

i've seen that
what does it mean?

mose

this is an old tradition on this channel

pilif12p

i see

mose

a generic greeting

pilif12p

mose

refering to the mumbling that tom bombadilom is emtiing when entering the forest to warn its inhabitant that somone is getting in

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pilif12p

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mose

I actually began to use that 6 years ago here and it became sortof a meme

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pilif12p

i see
there are 2 bots in here ?

mose

at least I see 3

pilif12p

mose

mose kicks CIA-63

CIA-63

mose

that's also one

pilif12p

bot
Tikiwiki|bot is a bot i assume?
!help

mose

it pretends to

Tikiwiki|bot

You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .

mose

Sug4r also probably is

pilif12p

Oh
yep
supybot

RavenC

I'm not, I just act like one at times...
:)

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mose

we all do

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pilif12p

heh
people always think i'm a bot :
:/

[18:10]

mose

you have a bot-like name, dude

[18:10]

pilif12p

on moznet
its Tanner
someone stole my nick here

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ricks99

Q: in trunk... how can i change the properties of a toolbar button -- one of the existing Formatting Tools? do i have t create my own Custom Tool?
i cannot figure out a way to edit an existing toolbar tool/button

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mose

hi ricks99

[18:19]

ricks99

mose!! hiya

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mose

you talk about fck ?

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ricks99

no. toolbas (replaced quicktags in 3.x) for wiki editing

mose

oh
I'm so obsolete

ricks99

been a while, eh?
not at all. we missed u

mose

I'm ending my study period now
thinking about getting back into business

ricks99

gr8

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mose

with 2 more skills in my pockets
I know speak chinese
and I also can do some java

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ricks99

java is good
ricks99 know no Chinese, though

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mose

java is easier than chinese
but surprisingly more people speak chinese than java

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chealer

polom!
(mose is getting in!)

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mose

hey cheal

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chealer

sylvieg: the installer still uses ADOdb, indeed
hi mose :-)
ricks99: what do you mean by "why didnt i get the (expected) adodb error?" ?

[18:38]

ricks99

I expected to see "could not find driver" but instead simply got "An error occured while performing the request"

[18:40]

chealer

ricks99: so we were saying that EasyPHP doesn't provide PDO?

[18:41]

ricks99

simply saying that the error message was useless for me

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pilif12p

What does http://tanner.is-a-geek.com/trunk/webroot/ mean?

[18:42]

ricks99

"could not find driver" is meaningful (and mentioned in the release notes)
"An error occured while performing the request" tells me nothing

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pilif12p

and how do i fix it?

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ricks99

does that make sesne chealer?

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chealer

ricks99: yes, sorry, but you got that error because EasyPHP doesn't ship PDO, right?

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ricks99

using easyphp 2.0.0.0, have no idea about pdo (i'm a windoze-kinda-guy)

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pilif12p

mose: do you know what the error on http://tanner.is-a-geek.com/trunk/webroot/ means?

[18:46]

chealer

pilif12p: is this really Tiki trunk?

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pilif12p

chealer: it's sumo

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mose

pilif12p: sorry, I'm obsolete

[18:51]

pilif12p

mozilla sumo
i see

[18:51]

mose

but if I wanted to know, I would just look at the code

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pilif12p

line 11 is $access->check_script($_SERVER["SCRIPT_NAME"],basename(__FILE__));

[18:52]

mose

and use grep, a very good friend

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pilif12p

grep?

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pilif12p

heh, i dunno how to use that :P