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KaiiaKKai | Im still struggelig with my upgrade. Now I have updated to a version of 5 and it seems to work
but I have locked myself out. I now get this, without any email instructions sent to me: More than 4 unsuccessful login attempts have been made. An email has been sent to you with the instructions to follow. do anyone know what that instruction says | [00:01] |
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KaiiaKKai | help help help :-) how do I log in after::::::::: More than 4 unsuccessful login attempts have been made. An email has been sent to you with the instructions to follow. | [00:15] |
Tikiwiki|bot | Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . | [00:15] |
KaiiaKKai | anybody? | [00:19] |
luciash | KaiiaKKai: sorry, i am busy now, try later please | [00:19] |
KaiiaKKai | thanks @luciash | [00:20] |
luciash | KaiiaKKai: try search for "tiki admin password recovery" or something like that | [00:20] |
KaiiaKKai | anybody else - im hurting
thanks will do | [00:20] |
luciash | the problem is it seems you haven't set e-mail for your admin account so it didn't send the instructions to you it seems | [00:21] |
KaiiaKKai | well I did test the email at install script, and it worked
what is the email meant to be I know the password for admin, but it seemes to have locked it out after 4 attempts | [00:22] |
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Caarrie | luciash: please put channel mode +R till the bots stop | [00:23] |
luciash | Caarrie: command pls | [00:24] |
Caarrie | /mode #tikiwiki +R should do it | [00:24] |
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Caarrie | thank you | [00:24] |
luciash | Caarrie: tks
Caarrie: ping me when you want it back | [00:24] |
Caarrie | ok | [00:25] |
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ricks99 | hi all :-) | [01:30] |
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chealer | changi|afk: cheal@hotpop.com was one of my emails | [02:28] |
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rlpowell | For the first time since I got svn access, I'm tempted to run "svn blame" and rip someone a new one. -_-
I put code in the tra() call to not go to the database for lang==en. Someone moved it around in such a way that for lang==en the database gets checked, and for any other language it gets checked *TWICE*. To much work to figure out whose fault it *actually* is, but holy shit. >:) Erm. >:( ... Oh. I never pushed that change. 0.o *blush* Nevermind. | [07:55] |
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changi | polom | [09:19] |
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luciash | rlpowell: hi, "never pushed" ? | [11:56] |
xavi | luciash: hi :-). quick question from html newbie (playing with the antibot code) | [11:58] |
luciash | xavi: i would consider maybe using the most popular captchas service instead | [11:59] |
xavi | tiki-calendar_edit_item.tpl has a few buttons where ...
popular captchas... I'm using just what it's bundled in tiki slow learning here. Just simple hacks so far and I need to improve my simple hack for calendar items. so my question is: everything seems fine for adding events in calendar | [11:59] |
luciash | yep, i mean not that one, even if it's not opensource bundled, maybe it is easy to implement an external captcha, which is more spammers bot proof | [12:00] |
xavi | but not for editing or deleting them
ok, I understand what you say. My problem nowadays is in html world, I guess | [12:00] |
luciash | for deleting ? hmm | [12:01] |
xavi | the antibot code is not passing the value typed by the user
when deleting them | [12:01] |
luciash | for editing it should be the same as for adding new event, but for deleting, i never saw a captcha | [12:01] |
xavi | yes, you never saw that becuase it's not in svn (yet :-) | [12:02] |
luciash | :)) | [12:02] |
xavi | I mean: Save button has a normal submit action
but the other buttons have a onclick="bla bla.php" | [12:02] |
luciash | i don't understand what it should be good for, when the spammer has nothing to input, why to put captcha there on deleting ? | [12:02] |
xavi | and I guess that this might be why the antibot code is not being sent
:-) in trunk (and proposals) I added the ability to show antibot captcha when anon is enabled to add calendar items | [12:03] |
luciash | xavi: then you have to add it in the onclick after the ";"
but then this all has no sense because bots don't use JS anyway usually | [12:04] |
xavi | ok, that's what I thought, but I don't know how to add that: "; antibotcode=$antibotcode"? | [12:05] |
luciash | just don't do that, having captcha on the new event is enough
no need to have it on edit or delete | [12:05] |
xavi | but what if bots are able to edit or delete???
this looks too risky to me | [12:06] |
luciash | no, they will not, it's matter of perms, not matter of spamming | [12:06] |
xavi | I mean in case where anons are granted the perms to change events
(I'm considering adding that in one site) for production | [12:07] |
luciash | it's like with wiki pages, you don't usually give perms to delete pages to anonymous, do you ?
ok, for edit it makes sense | [12:07] |
xavi | mmm, ok, you are right. However, the perm to change events allows them to delete them | [12:08] |
luciash | but not for deleting, that's something of "higher perms" | [12:08] |
xavi | afaik | [12:08] |
luciash | eh, then it is bad design, and if you can submit but not edit events without JS it is bad usability too | [12:08] |
xavi | ok, I guess that you are very right.
anyway, again with my question, if antibot.tpl says: <input type="text" maxlength="8" size="8" name="antibotcode" /> what should I add after the ";": antibotcode=$antibotcode" or just $antibotcode ? | [12:09] |
luciash | xavi: sorry, don't do that, the spamming bots cannot edit anyway if it's JS only now
change it to add another submit button for edit instead and then it will work ;) | [12:10] |
xavi | so what's the advanted of adding the extra buttons with JS?
s/dvanted/advantage | [12:12] |
luciash | you would need &antibotcode=$antibotcode in the link
if it wouldn't be submit button but link instead advantage is it will work with antibot and it will work with JS off (accessibility) not to add them with JS, in tpl as html tags (no JS) | [12:12] |
xavi | no, I mean what the advantage of the way it is now (low accessibility)? | [12:14] |
luciash | i don't see any advantage in the current solution | [12:15] |
xavi | ok, testing... | [12:18] |
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luciash | sylvieg1: hi, the option for trackers item view to use custom tpl / wiki is for 5.x only ? can't find it in 4.x
4.1 | [13:22] |
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xavi | mmm, no report on commits here on irc any more, it seems... (or delayed some hours, at least)
bbl | [13:35] |
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luciash | hi marc :)
any idea where got the setting "Purify XHTML to be valid on each save" or something like that moved in 4.1 ? it causes me headaches ;) | [14:50] |
marclaporte | security
or experimentl | [14:52] |
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luciash | marclaporte: not there
marclaporte: ah, right, found it :-p i'd never say it is security feature but nm, thanks found weird bug when using pretty tracker wiki page as template when you have two category dropdowns one next to the other the first one "eats" the other one and merges its select options to one dropdown :-p | [14:54] |
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oys | I need to add an upload from disk option to fck_image.html so that adding an image to a wiki-page becomes a two-step process instead of a five-step process. I think this would be a usefull feature for other users aswell. I might be able to hack something together for my own use, but would anyone like to guide me through it? maybe if I offer up a paypal-donation? | [15:06] |
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rubidubi | !help | [15:30] |
Tikiwiki|bot | You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . | [15:30] |
rubidubi | After installing tikiwiki 4.1 I only get blank pages :-(
I installed it on a windows PC with XAMPP Can anyone help? | [15:33] |
luciash | >whatis memory_limit | [15:35] |
Sug4r` | 'memory_limit' could be the most frequently asked question about trouble getting blank pages. The PHP memory_limit should be >= 16M (see your php.ini). You can check it with <?php echo ini_get('memory_limit'); ?> and read more at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Requirements+and+Setup&bl#PHP | [15:35] |
rubidubi | Memory limit is set to 128 so that should not be the problem.
in the templates_c folder I only have one file is that okay? | [15:36] |
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chealer | rubidubi: when do you get your first blank page? | [15:40] |
rubidubi | chealer: directly after the installation when this page is called: http://localhost/tikiwiki-4.1/tiki-change_password.php?user=admin
and tiki-index.php also returns a blank page | [15:42] |
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Kimberlee | any TikiFesters here yet this morning? | [15:44] |
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CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r24446 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser-magic: one more pref in admin blog template | [16:30] |
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marclaporte | polom | [16:50] |
changi | hi marc | [16:52] |
chealer | rubidubi: you'd need to enable logging of errors for PHP so we can tell you the problem | [17:00] |
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CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r24447 10/trunk/templates/tiki-browse_freetags.tpl: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding | [17:07] |
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rubidubi | chealer: Okay. In php.ini I put the following: error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE
chealer: and: log_errors = On chealer: and: error_log = "C:Develxamppapachelogsphperror.log" | [17:15] |
CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r24448 10/trunk/lib/rankings/ranklib.php: [FIX] Articles Rankings showing articles not published | [17:16] |
rubidubi | chealer: BUT: no phperror.log is generated (apache was restarted and settins are active as shown by phpinfo() ) | [17:17] |
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chealer | rubidubi: I'm afraid Tiki might override the error reporting level to report no errors. there is a setting in tiki_preferences, name error_reporting_level (and error_reporting_adminonly should be n). I use error_reporting_level=2047. | [17:28] |
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CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24449 10/third_party/jquery/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] New (pre-release) version of jquery.cluetip which fixes problems with Google Chrome. TODO: replace with release version before Tiki 5.0 | [17:40] |
rubidubi | chealer: are that additional entries for the tiki_preferences table in the database? I don't have those settings yet. | [17:43] |
chealer | rubidubi: I don't know, default preferences might not yet be in tiki_preferences. perhaps due to your problem
rubidubi: you need name='error_reporting_level' value='2047' and name='error_reporting_adminonly' value='n' | [17:46] |
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rubidubi | chealer: hm... still no phperror.log :-( | [17:51] |
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chealer | rubidubi: you could also try changing the default in lib/setup/prefs.php | [18:00] |
oys | if I want to make changes to files in the template directory, should I make them directly or in a different place. I'd like to not have to repeat the process (too much) for every new release. | [18:02] |
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rubidubi | chealer: changed it there also but still no logs | [18:06] |
chealer | rubidubi: templates_c/ is a cache directory, you can clean it at any time and the contents should be recreated automatically
rubidubi: which PHP / Apache versions do you use? | [18:07] |
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rubidubi | chealer: XAMPP 1.6.6a, PHP 5.2.5, Apache 2.2.8 (Win32) | [18:12] |
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chealer | SEWilco2: where do you get http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2032&trackerId=5&show=view ? | [18:26] |
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SEWilco2 | chealer: It was happening on a site which is not available. I think I had to go into the lib which creates RSS to change the behavior. | [19:11] |
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chealer | SEWilco2: and on which Tiki page would you see that behavior? | [19:21] |
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SEWilco2 | chealer: It was within RSS feeds. | [19:25] |
chealer | SEWilco2: do you have a URL? | [19:26] |
SEWilco2 | chealer: The site reported on was using 2.2 and is no longer available. I'm looking on TW.O for an RSS feed. | [19:26] |
chealer: TW.O RSS feeds for trackers seem to work OK. Looking for more RSS... | [19:33] | |
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CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24450 10/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] Replace tiki-assignpermission.php references with tiki-objectpermissions.php in group and wiki admin. tikiwiki: Adapt tiki-objectpermissions.php to show specific group and text filter perms. | [19:37] |
SEWilco2 | chealer: All the TW.O RSS feeds seem OK. They have a title like "Tiki RSS feed for ...". Someone probably fixed the problem since 2.2.
chealer: There are options for separate RSS feeds for each blog, etc. I don't know what <title> field those use. | [19:38] |
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CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r24451 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_blogs.tpl: [FIX] blog descriptions display (HTML special chars encoding) | [19:47] |
chealer | SEWilco2: where are these? | [19:52] |
SEWilco2 | chealer: Where are what these? RSS config options? Admin>RSS I think.
chealer: Where are the RSS feeds? Go do doc.tw.o and look for the RSS icon. My browser shows it in the URL bar. chealer: But as I said, TW.O seems to be showing a title for each feed. 2.2 was not defining a title for each feed, and the first entry's title was being used as a title for the entire RSS feed. | [19:53] |
oys | I have a simple two-line patch-file for lib/fckeditor_tiki/plugins/tikilink/fck_tikilink.php here: http://pastebin.com/m21c6c061. Is it OK to ask for feedback here or is it better to send to the dev mailing list?
The patch autofills in "Page name" to the same as Link. The reason I think it should do this is because I've seen new users have difficulties creating links because they don't want to understand the difference between the two. | [20:02] |
coaboa | hello: after upgrading version 4.0 to 4.1 all accounts (including admin) are either disabled or need (not working) validation. i'am locked out of the site.
before upgrading everithing worked fine. *everything | [20:10] |
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chealer | SEWilco2: OK | [20:22] |
SEWilco2 | chealer: I was using `wget` to fetch RSS feeds to check the format. The current ones seem to be OK. Check the modification date of the library which creates RSS feeds and you'll probably find it's newer than a year. | [20:24] |
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chealer | SEWilco2: I can't reproduce the reported bug in trunk. Can I close the report? | [20:26] |
SEWilco2 | chealer: Yeah, close it. | [20:26] |
chealer | SEWilco2: done, thank you | [20:28] |
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CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r24452 10/trunk/ (lib/categories/categlib.php modules/mod-func-breadcrumb.php): [FIX] Breadcrumb (last visited pages) module breaking when Category Jail is activated (with default 0 jail) | [20:48] |
Tikiwiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2988 - - Automatically fill in Page Name field when creating new links fck - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2988
Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2989 - - Automatically fill in Page Name field when creating new links fck - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2989 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2990 - - Automatically fill in field when creating new links - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2990 | [20:50] |
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CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24453 10/third_party/jquery/ (cluetip/jquery.cluetip.js jquery-tiki-readme.txt): [FIX] Rollback r24449 - cluetip upgrade to 1.0.6 (broke all links with tooltips) | [21:07] |
oys | Tikiwiki|bot: oops ;( I thought I got an error for 2988 and 2989. I'd very much appreciate it if someone would remove these two items | [21:07] |
luciash | can't get Pretty Tracker trackerlist content displayed to anonymous... have set tiki_p_use_as_template for anonymous for the wiki page template... anything else ?
4.1 | [21:15] |
chealer | oys: what behavior do you want when the "Link" changes (re 2990)?
oys: I closed the 2 first | [21:16] |
luciash | sylvieg1: ? | [21:18] |
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oys | chealer: Inexperienced users that want to create their first link think that link and page name are the same thing. I've witnessed users that are confused as to why they have to fill in both fields.
with that patch, the page name field is automatically updated whenever the link field is filled out. without this, you get an error message if you just fill in the link field. at my place of work, we'll probably end up hiding one of the fields so as not to confuse users | [21:28] |
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chealer | oys: you don't necessarily want the link label to be the page name | [21:40] |
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sylvieg1 | luciash: clean the cache templates_c | [21:42] |
luciash | sylvieg1: nope :( that didn't help
there should be tracker item title, short anchor text and mediaplayer plugin above the included page script but it shows only the script which is included via INCLUDE plugin for anonymous there :-/ | [21:43] |
oys | chealer: I think that might be debatable. but either way, no harm is done in setting it to be the same by default. | [21:46] |
luciash | sylvieg1: pm | [21:52] |
chealer | oys: I think there is. If you filled the page name and you then fill the link label, you need to type again the page name, which is a loss of time. | [21:52] |
oys | chealer: how about if I change it so that it only does it if it's already empty? | [21:54] |
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oys | chealer: similarly you also lose time if they are the same and you have to type it twice.
chealer: feedback from users that are new to creating content for the web was that they (nearly) all get an error message the first time they try to create a new link. | [21:55] |
ricks99 | tikifesters need some testing? rick is online... | [21:59] |
chealer | oys: that would be OK
oys: I agree. I understand the current thing is far from ideal | [21:59] |
oys | chealer: I've been asked to do away with all the unnecessary bits and annoyances that take getting used to. Once we launch the wiki to people outside the testing group, our new userbase is likely to only give us one chance when deciding if they are going to contribute or not. | [22:03] |
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CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24454 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] Show location of dynamic preference results. | [22:24] |
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Tikiwiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2991 - - No save after preview of reply by non-admins - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2991 | [22:37] |
oys | chealer: made some changes. now either field is empty, it is set to the value of the other one.
what's the best way to diff it with the original when submitting a patch btw? | [22:42] |
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chealer | oys: $ diff -u ... ... ; | [23:00] |
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CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24455 10/trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_value.tpl: [FIX]tracker: page selector should not do a link to the page if showlinks=y - thx luciash | [23:11] |
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chealer_ | oys: thanks, that's better
oys: on second thought, I think we should avoid people filling the label before the page name rather than filling the page name from the label | [23:27] |
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chealer__ | oys: I figure putting the page name above the label would be better, right? | [23:33] |
oys | chealer_: you mean you want to swap them around. I agree. while we're at it, I think it would be better if internal link and external links were combined (instead of having two buttons)
but that's not at the top of my list right now. | [23:33] |
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chealer__ | oys: probably. I'm also not willing to spend time on that right now. | [23:34] |
oys: could you make it so that the label field gets under the page name field. and probably rename "Link" to "link label" or something which clarifies its use? | [23:39] | |
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mattbmc | I've been experiencing a weird glitch in 4.1 (in-place upgrade from 2.x) after page saves. I get a blank page and it doesn't appear I'm being forwarded to the correct URL. I installed Debug Profile and got the following error: http://mcarroll.pastebin.com/m6145c0cf
Should this cause a blank page? | [23:53] |
chealer | oys: that looks fine
oys: changing the string will "break" translations, but that's fine when the meaning changes | [23:54] |
CIA-77 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24456 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Second attempt at upgrading to new (pre-release) version of jquery.cluetip which fixes problems with Google Chrome. tikiwiki: This time with added "clickThrough=true" in tiki-jquery.js. tikiwiki: TODO: replace with release version before Tiki 5.0. | [23:55] |
chealer | oys: I assume you have no commit access to the source code repository? | [23:55] |
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