[00:09] what are the practical reasons to require current password while changing email address at user preferences → account information screen ? [00:10] security [00:11] somebody did not trust the tw security [00:11] but when the user is logged in he already must know the password [00:11] or is it for the people which forget to logout on public places ? [00:11] extra security to 'secure ' the user ... no idea... [00:11] :) [00:14] just found out that in tiki 4.1 when sending mail using webmail it is being send with sender mail set to the mail user is registered with, not the one set in webmail settings, so had to change it and got a bit in trouble having to input the password ;) [00:16] hmm, now i wonder where is the "Sent" folder in webmail ? [00:19] *** Guest62201 has quit IRC ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") [00:22] what about to upgrade the BOX plugin to shadow... [00:22] and rounded [00:22] and title color [00:22] hmm, it is different thing, BOX can be obsoleted by DIV [00:23] me - stupid tw user [00:23] *** kiilo has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [00:23] basically BOX does almost the same as div but used table by default instead [00:23] I want to do a rounded shadow, colorful box [00:23] I have no help to do that [00:24] ok, you mean inline, not in pop-up box, right ? [00:24] yes [00:24] +1 then [00:24] * sylvieg trying to convince gifted people like luciash .. [00:25] all the sites I think about are now are private [00:36] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [00:42] showdowy can only be done with additional div .. or there is a jquery... trick.... to do that? [00:43] s/shodowy/shadow-y [00:52] yes [00:52] there is a jquery trick [01:02] http://www.ruzee.com/content/liquid-canvas [01:05] http://bit.ly/77phTL [01:56] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24594 10/trunk/pics/icons/ (bug.png bug_error.png): [FIX] Missing icons (from r24583) [01:58] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24595 10/third_party/slideshow/ (README css/ js/): [KIL] Removal of Mootools based slideshow (disused since 4.x) [02:01] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24596 10/trunk/lib/slideshow_tiki/: [KIL] Removal (part 2) of Mootools based slideshow (custom tiki part) [02:10] @luciash: instead of "additional spaces" to make tracker names unique, I was able to append #0160 to the end (non-breaking spaces) [02:10] works but very ugly [02:10] you mean,  , right [02:11] y, but have to actually type it in: alt+0160 -- can't use entity code [02:11] ah [02:11] Q: if there is already a unqiue ID that is the key, why does the name have to be unique? [02:12] no idea, ask jonny, something about profiles sylvie said ? [02:19] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24597 10/trunk/lib/: [KIL] Removal (part 3) of Mootools based slideshow (SVN external property) [02:29] *** PrezKennedyII has quit IRC (Client Quit) [02:41] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24598 10/third_party/slideshow/ (53 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Rollback r24595 as branches/4.x still has a connection to this, even though it doesn't use it (might cause update problems) [02:48] *** coaboa_ has joined #tikiwiki [03:03] *** skbohra has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [03:04] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [03:06] http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginTracker&bl=n#Url_Params [03:06] doesn't seem to work for me [03:08] trying with tiki-index.php?page=Edit+User+Profile&trackerId=3&view_user=testik [03:09] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [03:09] in the page i have: {TRACKER(trackerId="3" action="Submit" showmandatory="y" view="user" wiki="Edit User Profile Template")} [03:10] shows my user tracker item instead of overriding with user "testik" data [03:10] it's Tiki 3.4 [03:18] *** Sug4r has joined #tikiwiki [03:39] *** ricks99 has quit IRC ("Get more help: TikiWiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org") [03:42] *** Sug4r` has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [04:00] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [04:02] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [04:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [04:03] polom [04:03] Are other people also bothered by the huge lock icon, on locked pages? [04:03] Could displaying this be made a preference? [04:04] If a page is locked, and the user doesn't have edit perm, then there's no point to show it. [04:05] So at least add that as a icon display condition. [04:06] But I think something more discreet would be much better, even for people with the edit perm for the page. [04:07] like how the "unlock" button appears for the page author, maybe a "locked" button state for other editors. [04:09] *** btiffin has joined #tikiwiki [04:21] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24599 10/branches/proposals/3.x/templates/modules/mod-quick_edit.tpl: [04:21] tikiwiki: [bp/r22261][FIX] autocomplete not to automatically select the first item any more. [04:21] tikiwiki: (Originally committed to tiki-jquery.js in trunk pre-branch/4.x) [04:24] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Client Quit) [04:29] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3002 - - Built-in secondary menu managed from site identity in Tiki 5 - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3002 [04:48] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24600 10/branches/proposals/3.x/ (templates/tiki-theme_control.tpl tiki-theme_control.php): [bp/r22926 partial][FIX] Remember selected category when changing themes (was part of a more extensive theme control revamp for 4.x) [05:00] New Forum Posts: Permissions issue - listing objects when browsing categories - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36084 [05:24] *** btiffin has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [05:33] *** olinuxx has quit IRC ("Ex-Chat") [06:17] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [07:20] *** franck has quit IRC () [08:07] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [08:40] *** skbohra has joined #tikiwiki [09:39] *** luminoso_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [09:47] *** luminoso has joined #tikiwiki [11:16] *** chibaguytoo has joined #tikiwiki [11:22] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [11:27] *** chibaguytoo is now known as chibaguy [11:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [11:37] *** Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki [11:50] *** andtor has joined #tikiwiki [11:55] *** Caarrie|sleeping has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [12:17] *** grom has joined #tikiwiki [12:22] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [12:45] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [12:49] *** grom has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [13:10] *** Warkster|Laptop has joined #tikiwiki [13:11] *** Narkster|Laptop has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [13:19] *** RavenC has joined #tikiwiki [13:37] hello everyone [14:01] polom [14:03] *** nkoth has joined #tikiwiki [14:27] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Client Quit) [14:31] nobody else has problem with minified - my local was very and I just turned off the minified - and my local is back... No idea ... if it is really mimified... [14:32] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24601 10/trunk/tiki-adminusers.php: [FIX]login: the only time the password must be kept in clear in the database is when an admin adds a user and ask for change password [14:41] *** kiilo has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [14:41] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24602 10/branches/proposals/4.x/tiki-adminusers.php: [bp/r 24601] [FIX]login: the only time the password must be kept in clear in the database is when an admin adds a user and ask for change password [14:54] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [14:56] *** nkoth has quit IRC () [14:56] sylvieg, "use minified scripts" works ok for me, but "minify javascript" doesn't. [14:56] ah ok thanks chibaguy [15:02] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [15:04] I wonder if anyone has tried a jquery script, using the Look and Feel custom text area to add the script link, etc. [15:05] In 4.1, I'm not having success. [15:05] The script seems to load but is not having effect. [15:07] A simple JS alert works ok, but not a jquery script. [15:10] Though Infinite carousel is working at themes.tw.o.... [15:21] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24603 10/branches/proposals/4.x/tiki-calendar_edit_item.php: [FIX]typo introduce in 24444 - does not exist on trunk [15:42] *** rmcc316 has left [15:51] *** olinuxx has joined #tikiwiki [15:54] *** andtor has quit IRC ("Ex-Chat") [16:06] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [16:08] *** nkoth has joined #tikiwiki [16:11] *** hrsms has joined #tikiwiki [16:12] When logged in as admin I can browse categories and see a list of wiki pages associated with the current category ID. When anonymous, I can still browse the categories, but no objects are listed as associated ("No records found") for any category. I cannot figure out which permission I need to set. Thanks in advance for your help. [16:22] tiki_p_view_categorized for anonymous fot tw < 4 [16:26] Sorry. This is second time I've forgotten to mention version. I am on 4.1. [16:28] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [16:33] New Forum Posts: Multiple access points for tiki users (in my site ) - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36093 [16:34] hrsms: I take it anonymous doesn't have permission to see the objects in those categories? [16:39] And if so, maybe a question is why anonymous can see the category names. This seems to be a regression (breaks the what you can see is what you can access rule). [16:41] *** gozer_ has joined #tikiwiki [16:42] I have tiki_p_view_category set. The description says that it allows the category to be seen in a listing. I am now understanding that this does not imply being able to see the objects assigned to that category. I need to find out what restriction is on the page. [16:45] A problem is that this was changed for Tiki 4, but the docs probably aren't up to date. [16:45] I mean the way permissions and categories are handled changed. [16:47] I haven't used categories for permission purposes at a Tiki 4 site yet, so am not sure how things behave. [16:47] So I hope somebody else has some input on this. [16:49] I found it. My fault. I know (no doubt) that I viewed this page as anonymous before. But somehow the permission was removed. I don't know what action I took (accidentally) to remove it, but anon had zero permissions. I've added them to object (wiki page) and it now shows up when viewing categories. False alarm. [16:50] Ah, ok. [16:53] Anon has permission to view wiki at group level. Anon has permission to list categories at group level. Somehow permission was removed for this page only. Not sure how that happened. [16:54] Object overrides category which overrides group. So my object permission was the key. I didn't think of it because I never intentionally changed it. [16:55] And since I am just getting started with this, it is the only categorized page. I thought it was a global problem. If I had several categorized pages I would have seen some but not others and the problem (and solution) would have been more obvious. [16:55] Tiki is great for exploring problem-solving methodology. ;-) [16:57] I've only been using it for a week, but I'm already equal parts frustrated and enthused. Fantastic capability out of the box - very easy to break. Much like the software my company writes :-) [16:58] I kid. It did exactly what I told it to do. Garbage in, garbage out. [16:58] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [17:04] *** skbohra_ has joined #tikiwiki [17:18] *** skbohra has quit IRC (Connection timed out) [17:24] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [17:25] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Client Quit) [17:27] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [17:28] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Client Quit) [17:29] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [17:30] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [17:30] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Client Quit) [17:31] *** hrsms has quit IRC ("Page closed") [17:34] *** skbohra_ is now known as skbohra [17:42] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [17:44] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:44] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:45] *** nkoth has quit IRC () [18:08] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [18:08] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [18:09] Californian polom [18:10] polom [18:11] hi chealer - recovered from the penguins, pigs and eggs? [18:14] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24604 10/trunk/tiki-adminusers.php: [18:14] tikiwiki: [FIX]users: fix add user (a param was missing ... was still working because of [18:14] tikiwiki: leftover of code about clear password suppression) + new param to send an email [18:14] tikiwiki: in an users import + not oblige to give a password if send an email in import [18:22] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [18:24] tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24605 10/trunk/ (9 files in 5 dirs): [18:24] tikiwiki: Started cleaning up the inconsistent use of bl= parameter. Note that I left a [18:24] tikiwiki: number of commented traces in a number of places. Please leave them there, as I [18:24] tikiwiki: will need them for the next little while, while I continue this cleanup. I will [18:24] tikiwiki: remove the traces when I am done. [18:26] *** nkoth has joined #tikiwiki [18:47] hi jonnyb. yes, just stuck with a serious leg inflammation since I came back. I can't go anywhere. [18:48] back on the damn cane [18:49] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [18:53] :-( [18:56] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [18:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [18:58] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24606 10/branches/proposals/4.x/lib/: [bp/r24597][KIL] Removal (part 3) of Mootools based slideshow (SVN external property) [18:59] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24607 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_userlist.php: [NEW]userlist: option to filter on a group [19:12] *** jonnyb has quit IRC () [19:13] *** timotiCK has joined #TIKIWIKI [19:14] *** timotiCK has left [19:29] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [19:34] New Forum Posts: Need to change login setting to Tiki instead of LDAP manually - without loggin in - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=17&comments_parentId=36095 [19:36] *** luminoso has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:45] *** luminoso has joined #tikiwiki [19:48] So... have we got a star name for Tiki 5? [19:50] my friend Jay (who knows about these things) suggests Algol (in Perseus) [19:51] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [20:05] php / algol...(how many people coded in this language?) [20:05] but +1 for me [20:06] sumo could be too - because between us it will be know as sumo [20:12] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24608 10/trunk/tiki-index.php: [FIX] Debugging info breaking layout [20:19] *** ricks99_ has joined #tikiwiki [20:26] hehe [20:29] tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24609 10/trunk/lang/ht/ (. language.php): Added language file for Haitian Creole. [20:31] hi sylvieg - is there a star called sumo? (or something like it, i wonder?) [20:35] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [20:35] no I do not think so... [20:35] no, i can't find one [20:36] i sent a mail to devels so let's see if there's any response there [20:36] by the way, i'm still getting bad things in filegals with images - like thumbnails broken and preview not working (display is ok though) [20:38] btw - also - gary and I have problem with one mimified option...09:56:27 AM) chibaguy: sylvieg, "use minified scripts" works ok for me, but "minify javascript" doesn't. [20:38] ... humm th browse fgal is ok for me.. [20:38] oh? it's probably the order it loads them [20:39] which one? (can you tell?) [20:39] in Firebug check the line with the error and search for some JS near it [20:45] I do not have always errors - it is very slow ... [20:45] sylvieg: yeah, minify javascript is known to be broken [20:45] tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24610 10/trunk/lang/langmapping.php: For Haitian creole support, forgot to change langmapping.php. [20:45] ok ... but fgal are ok for me [20:46] aoh - ok preview is broken [20:49] preview is less broken without minified javascript - but I do not see the image [20:56] hi tikians [20:56] algol sounds like alcohol :-p [21:06] *** luminoso has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [21:13] *** jonnyb has quit IRC () [21:13] *** RavenC has left [21:14] *** RavenC has joined #tikiwiki [21:23] *** luminoso has joined #tikiwiki [21:24] *** juice__d has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [21:24] *** juice_d has joined #tikiwiki [21:26] So many stars, one must be called SUMO! [21:27] *** gozer_ has quit IRC () [21:32] well, maybe there are unnamed stars [21:36] *** franck has quit IRC () [21:42] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [21:52] *** ricks99_ is now known as ricks99 [21:56] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [21:59] have a nice evening everyone [21:59] *** RavenC has quit IRC ("~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~") [22:07] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24611 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [MOD]fgal: popup giving the list of backlinks when the column backlink is on [22:08] *** nkoth has quit IRC () [22:15] I feel like an option 'I do not want javascript/jquery... because my site is looping for ever' [22:15] .. the number of time I put javascript_enabled='n'.. [22:35] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [22:46] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24612 10/trunk/tiki-list_file_gallery.php: [MOD] Commented out suspected dead code pre-KIL [23:07] *** chealer has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [23:10] tikiwiki: 03jsocol * r24613 10/branches/experimental/sumo/: [23:10] tikiwiki: This branch fell out of date, and SUMO has started using new themes since Gary did the great work in upgrading the old ones (thanks, Gary!). [23:10] tikiwiki: Most SUMO patches have been upstreamed to trunk here, and the remaining ones will be maintained in the Mozilla repository. [23:10] tikiwiki: Hence branch => gone. [23:25] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [23:26] *** Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki [23:33] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [23:35] :-) :-) a sumo branch [23:36] I do not understand what exactly it means .. but sounds good [23:36] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24614 10/trunk/tiki-download_file.php: [FIX] Don't replace the existing data with the cached version if empty [23:37] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24615 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_img.php: [FIX] Use image size if available [23:38] seems jonnyb found the problem [23:39] I was guessing it was around this feature - ths jonnyb :-) [23:40] which one sylvieg ? [23:40] 24614 [23:41] I was around the same lines [23:41] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24616 10/trunk/templates/tiki-file_gallery_slideshow.tpl: [KIL] Dead file [23:42] ah yes [23:42] it all seems wrong - why does it check the cache so late? [23:42] surely that's the first thing to do (and i should be doing something else anyway :) ) [23:43] suppose sept_7 will react on that.. [23:44] *** Caarrie|away has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [23:45] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24617 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [MOD] Carousel plugin - not yet implemented [23:45] hope so - i got lost in there! [23:45] used up all my time to get the new carousel slideshow working :( [23:51] by the way all - after some discussions with Alain i'm going to move the editpage template stuff back into tiki-editpage.tpl and do the refactoring a bit differently (less files) [23:56] phew [23:56] :)