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sylvieg.. otherwise you get my - free time - to debug
the only problem that you can have - is too many optimizations - that seem to be .. useless
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luciashheh, why useless ? [00:10]
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sylvieglph and I did (lph did a lot than me) optimization - but it does not seem to work - it is 'therically' ore that correct but it changes so little in term of perfs
it should..
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luciashah, i see :-/ [00:12]
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24691 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: - CONTINUED: Reactoring: Adding some methods in editlib that will eventually be
tikiwiki: used to make translation related portions of tiki-editpage clearer. More to
tikiwiki: come. PS: Please leave the traces in while I am debugging these methods (this
tikiwiki: code is currently not active anyway).
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rmcc4444Anyone breathing?
Wondering if I could throw someone a few bucks to help w/ a bug I submitted? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2998&trackerId=5&show=view
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ricks99@rmcc4444: something with ur setup maybe? forum sorting seems to work on tw.o [00:58]
rmcc4444ricks99: Id be happy to give you an admin account if you have a moment to look [00:59]
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ricks99sure. ive got a bit of time [00:59]
rmcc4444Excellent. Id be happy to send you $10 for your time. I'm not a rich man. Wish i could send more.
STandby
ricks99: sending you a PM
Thank you! Its really annoying the crap outta me
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rmcc4444Hey, got a sec for another question?
woops, ricks99 .. you stil here?
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luciashwhy the hell trunk uses 5676 db queries on my localhost copy ? (community profile)
at HomePage
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i get lot of PHP (5.2.10-2ubuntu6.4) ERROR (E_WARNING): File: lib/core/lib/TikiDb/Pdo.php Line: 69 Type: PDOStatement::execute() [pdostatement.execute]: SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry 'smiling-cs' for key 'PRIMARY'
it changes to 'grinning-cs' 'crying-cs' 'frightened-cs' etc.
seems something bad with smileys and czech language
???
actually it seems to appear with every translated string like that
and yes, i use db for translation
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24692 10/trunk/tiki-editpage.php:
tikiwiki: - CONTINUED: Reactoring: Adding some methods in editlib that will eventually be
tikiwiki: used to make translation related portions of tiki-editpage clearer. More to
tikiwiki: come. PS: Please leave the traces in while I am debugging these methods (this
tikiwiki: code is currently not active anyway).
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24693 10/trunk/ (lib/wiki/editlib.php tiki-editpage.php): - Forgot to erase traces in some files. [02:12]
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Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: Forums Topics Aren't Sorting - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36174 [02:19]
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luciashcan i somehow assign a tracker item field value to browser title instead of the wiki page name where the item is via trackerlist displayed ?
i have tried to put in wiki page template {assign var='headtitle' value=$f_2} but no joy
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hrsmsI'm at my whit's end trying and about ready to give up on tiki.... Would someone please tell me what settings/permissions are necessary for a user to have a Categories tab when editing a wiki page? I saw it there before a made a series of changes. Now it's gone and I can't figure out how to get it back...
Category feature is enabled...
User inherits perms to add/remove objects to/from category from parent group...
No addition perms set at object level.
What am I missing?
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jj_germanyhey there, yet another question.... is it possible to import tasks in tikiwiki? e.g. from a csv file? [07:35]
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03pascalstjean * r24694 10/trunk/templates/tiki-article_types.tpl: [ENH] Changed interface layout to fit in new Fixed_Width Styles as well as added Tabs to convert to new Tab interface. [11:29]
Tikiwiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3008 - - Javascript bug with Show Help button in tiki-article_types.tpl - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3008 [11:37]
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24695 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: - CONTINUED: Reactoring: Adding some methods in editlib that will eventually be
tikiwiki: used to make translation related portions of tiki-editpage clearer. More to
tikiwiki: come. PS: Please leave the traces in while I am debugging these methods (this
tikiwiki: code is currently not active anyway).
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sylviegfoobar [12:27]
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chibaguyfoobar? [12:52]
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sylviegyes it is my root pasword on my local ... good nobody can go on my local..
i just upgraded to fedora 12
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ricks99good morning all :-) [12:54]
chibaguyah
g'morning ricks99 (from 10pm JST)
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ricks99yeah well... the world revolves around me. it is morning everywhere ;-) [12:56]
chibaguyheh, ok. :-)
chibaguy happily remembers great breakfasts in Montreal.
chibaguy thinking morning thoughts....
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rmcc316i didnt get an ounce of sleep last night
uggg
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ricks99ricks99 wonders why there is no FIND form on the claendar pages. tiki has find forms on the blog list, forum list, wiki list, etc. [13:03]
rmcc316ricks99: i got the forum sorting issue fixed. All I did was delete the ones that were out of order and created them DUPLICATING the same forum each time.. So, not sure why it broke but the workaround fixed it [13:04]
ricks99odd
rmcc: sent u email this am re login info
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chibaguyAre php layers menus still to be deprecated in tiki 5?
chibaguy is anxious to dump them.
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luciashpolom polom [13:26]
chibaguyhey luciash [13:27]
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luciashhi chibaguy [13:27]
RavenChello all [13:28]
ricks99hi luciash & RavenC [13:28]
RavenCHiya Ricks [13:29]
luciashchibaguy: +1 to kill dem, did you do something about http://pfirsichmelba.de/artikel-scripts/dropdown/horizontal.html already ? [13:29]
chibaguyNo, sorry, luciash. I think that's beyond my skills. ;-) [13:30]
luciashwasn't that a showstopper for removing plms ? [13:30]
sylviegthe catg tree is phlm [13:30]
chibaguymm [13:30]
luciashyea, categ tree is plm tree menu [13:31]
chibaguya lot of overhead for one menu instance [13:31]
luciashyup yup [13:31]
sylviegand file explorer? [13:31]
chibaguytwo instances ;-) [13:31]
luciashmaybe
luciash unsure
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chibaguyyep, file gallery explorer too [13:36]
CIA-84tikiwiki: 03luciash * r24696 10/trunk/lang/cs/language.php: [MOD] more translations from db export, re-ran get_strings.php?groupwrite&nosections&lang=cs for cleaning [13:36]
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chibaguyhttp://labs.abeautifulsite.net/projects/js/jquery/fileTree/demo/
MIT License
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luciashi don't like the folders are not clickable and there are no tree lines [14:01]
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ibrrorgmorning all. so, i have started working on my FAQ section and wanted to know if it's alright to cut and paste some of the basic explinations from the Twiki site into my site (which is non-public and would explain items like editing, etc.) [14:04]
ricks99hi ibrrorg. i believe all content on the doc site is published under a createive commons copyright. feel free to cut away [14:05]
ibrrorgalright thanx! [14:06]
CIA-84tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r24697 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ (wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php wikiplugin_trackerlist.php): [MOD] Add pagination to trackerfilter results to avoid displaying 500 results and causing 'slowness' [14:07]
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luciashstrange, suddenly my tiki has no theme in chrome [14:09]
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luciashand is slow like hell :-/ [14:09]
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24698 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]tracker: option showwatch in trackerlist plugin [14:21]
luciashsylvieg: +1 [14:23]
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Tikiwiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3009 - - tiki-calendar.php = Blank page - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3009 [14:24]
sylviegpretty soon - we will be able to remove tiki-view_tracker.php ... [14:24]
luciashheheh
weird what happens here on my localhost :( trunk is completely broken for me :(
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sylviegtry with no javascript.... do not know if the mimify is fixed [14:27]
CIA-84tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r24699 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [ENH] Disabling expensive calls in the parser when rendering snippets for search results. The option is still slow, but went from 99% of execution time to 50%. [14:27]
jj_germanyis there any possiblity to add a avatar to a user ? [14:27]
sylviegjj_germany: yes in user preferences [14:27]
luciashit links to lot of temp/public/minified_5a1ef1658de538b85808d06bd6e0940c.css stylesheets but none loads correctly it seems and the response is too slow
sylvieg: yea, that must be it... the referenced files give 404 :_(
like temp/public/minified_5a1ef1658de538b85808d06bd6e0940c.css
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jj_germany@sylvieg i just see the user administration... where can i find user preferences? [14:31]
luciashnow if i knew how to disable JS in Chrome :-p [14:32]
ricks99@jj_germany: see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/User+Preferences [14:33]
luciashjj_germany: first you have to enable it on Admin home → Community iirc, then go to tiki-user_preferences.php [14:33]
jj_germanythank u very much ;) that helps! [14:35]
luciashsylvieg: maybe sh setup.sh will fix my minified css problem
yep, that did it ! :)
not completely but at least it looks more like strasa again ;)
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ricks99ur welcome [14:37]
luciashluciash going to switch off the minify preferences if possible
oh, is it not possible to switch it off anymore ?
:-/
:(
the missing minified stuff is slowing whole site more than 1000% :(
thus slowing my development :-[14:44] <luciash> i give up, until someone fixes that crap
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sylviegsend a message to lph [14:44]
luciashhe should be here :(
chibaguy: at the music site, you optimized the articles for SEO ? looks good
chibaguy: i wonder what to do with czech accents in wiki pagenames though
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chibaguyluciash, I didn't do any optimizing. Maybe
... was someone else.
afaik, it's proposals/4.x code
New Firebug release 1.5, works better than before.
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The minified js in trunk is interesting. My site (localhost) is running ok with it, but it's surpising to see a minified js file at 407.2KB. [15:10]
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luciashchibaguy: well, i cleared my tiki cache here and the problems started [15:15]
chibaguyStrange, I'm not having any particular problems.
Update is a few hours old.
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luciashhmm, can it be caused by php errors reporting on and xdebug somehow ? [15:20]
CIA-84tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r24700 10/branches/experimental/coe_filegal_manager/lib/: [FIX] freezing external libraries versions to last merge revision [15:21]
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chibaguymaybe
I'm using plain wampserver2 with nothing special on.
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jj_germanywhy are the faq's selected as "Will be phased out" ? will there be a new integration of faqs? [15:26]
chibaguyjj_germany: no, I believe the thinking is that faqs can be done in a wiki page rather than have special files for them. [15:30]
jj_germany@ chibaguy, ok thanks.... the reason for askin' so many questions is that i try to set up a tikiwiki in my company.... thanks a lot! i will be asking new questions soon [15:32]
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chibaguyok [15:35]
That Metrics theme in trunk isn't very attractive. ;-) [15:45]
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chibaguyWhat's the best way to restore an image that's gone missing in svn? styles/feb12/header.jpg is missing in trunk. [15:50]
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Caarrierevert? [15:51]
chibaguySeems logical. :-) [15:51]
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jj_germanycan the "homePage" be edited such as the name at top of the page is changed? [16:07]
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ricks99@jj_germany. u can make any page ur "home page" or u can simply disable the "title" to print at the top of wiki pages
see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wiki+config
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mlpvolt_hiya - question. If tiki has to send emails through a proxy server (email worked directly from that server before) - how do you change that setting? [16:14]
SEWilco2What does tiki_p_articles_read_heading do? I don't see it in doc.tw.o [16:17]
chibaguyIt must control viewing of the article header (text that comes before the "read more" link).
tho I don't know why it'd have to be controlled separately from the rest of the article.
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ricks99@SEWilco2: i belive required if ur article type uses "show topline" and/or "show subtitle"
oops i mean required for "show heading only"
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SEWilco2I see. So one can control that level of detail at a group level. Thanks. [16:22]
luciashah minify found in performance :) [16:24]
SEWilco2mlpvolt_: I'm not finding Admin settings relevant to mail proxy servers. I think that's a system or PHP configuration issue. [16:24]
mlpvolt_SEWilco: thanks - yeah i was wondering if it had to be configured somewhere on the server . . . sendmail or PHP config? [16:28]
CIA-84tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24701 10/trunk/lib/init/tra.php: [FIX] $prefs['record_untranslated'] not always set at this point
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24702 10/trunk/templates/tiki-plugin_trackerlist.tpl: a class to style
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24703 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] Global
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jj_germanythx [16:40]
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03luciash * r24704 10/trunk/styles/strasa.css: [ADD] Strasa: lets have some padding at the bottom of menuSections [16:43]
luciashmetrics is not intended to be a theme, indeed, or it's a joke [16:45]
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chibaguyheh, I know. it belongs in some other directory apparently. [16:54]
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rmcc316I have a user getting this when he tries t post a m essage in the forusm.. Notice: this variable may not be empty: $_POST"thread_sort_mode .... Ive seen this in the tikiwki forums but havent seen an swer. any ideas?
Version = 4.1
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sylviegnotice are not important .. you should ignore them in admin->general->errors [17:40]
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rmcc316Oh.. So he is able to post. I thought it was preventing him from posting. Let me check a > g > e
I have PHP Error reporting level set to NO ERROR REPORTING
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sylviegI noticed on some system that if display_errors in on in php.ini . you se the errors at the top ... I thought tw was capturing the errors.. [18:08]
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chealersylvieg: it depends at which point errors are triggered. until Tiki does its reporting setup, default PHP settings apply. [18:11]
chibaguysylvieg, in trunk, feb12 is missing the file styles/feb12/header.jpg. Is there an easy way to get the file back with svn or shall I add it again?
I don't see any record of how it was lost.
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hrsmsMy apologies for repeating the same question 3 days running. Still trying to figure it out on my own - still failing. Why can't I, logged in as member of group "A" (not admin) see a Categories tab when editing a wiki page? (more...)
Categories are enabled. Even anon users can browse for wiki pages by category and see the categories assigned to the page (more...)
No permissions set at object level (more...)
Group "A" inherits from group "B" which has perms to add/remove pages to/from every category assigned to the page in question except, except a private category for Group A. (more...)
Perms to edit pages assigned to Category "A" and perms to add/remove page to/from Category "A" given to Group "A" but denied Group "B" (just one more line...)
Edit behavior is working as expected. Of three members in Group "B", only the one assigned to Group "A" can edit pages in Category "A". The problem is that when editing the page, or creating new page, user in Group "A" does not even see a Categories tab in edit mode. (Done.)
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luciashhrsms: 4.1 ? [18:21]
CIA-84tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24705 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]tracker: sortmode in trackerfilter must apply to the filter not the list [18:22]
hrsmsyes [18:24]
luciashhmm, ok, i can see the categories tab as user in Editors group but i don't see the categories checkboxes there... let me check my perms [18:26]
CIA-84tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24706 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: typo [18:28]
hrsmsThis is a new site (my first tiki), and I had things organized differently a week back. At that time I had the tab. Then I changed something and the tab was there but all check boxes were disabled. Now the tab is gone entirely.
Happy to give details of group structure. Maybe I've done something poorly in that regard.
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luciashhrsms: do you have tiki_p_modify_object_categories assigned ? [18:29]
hrsmsIn tiki section? Maybe not! I was looking mainly in Categories and Wiki sections. Let me check... [18:30]
luciashyes, in tiki type [18:32]
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hrsmsWhat is the ASCII character symbol for "shame". That was it. I did look in that section for category-related perms at one point. Don't know how I missed it. THANK YOU! Now....all boxes are still disabled. At least it's a step forward.
Is it legal to give permission to an group when the group it inherits from does not have that permission set?
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luciashnow you need "Can add objects in the category (tiki_p_add_object)" for the group i guess
yes, it is completely legal
you'll not get arrested for doing that ;)
hrsms: and probably you will also want to give tiki_p_remove_object to the group
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hrsmsThe member in question (me) is GregH. There is a Group "GregH" to which only I belong. Similar for each other member of my club.
The group structure is Anonymous->Registered->Members->Active->Full->GregH
tiki_p_add_object is set for members of "Active" group at global level.
(as is tiki_p_remove_object)
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luciashok [18:44]
hrsmsThis is a ship modeling club, so there are (currently) categories for "boat type", "era", "propulsion" and "modeller" (more...)
Global permissions apply to "boat type", "era", "propulsion" and all their sub categories (more...)
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Tikiwiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3010 - - Discuss button on wiki page causes erroneous notifications on forum watch - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3010 [18:45]
hrsmsGlobal permissions apply to "modeller" category. But in the sub-category "GregH" the tiki_p_add_object and tiki_p_remove_object perms are removed from "Active" and added for "GregH" (more...)
This is why I was asking if the child group can have perms the parent does not. It's as if "GregH" is denied because it inherits (indirectly) from "Active", even though perms are added to "GregH". I don't get it ...:-(
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luciashif you set permissions per category, the global ones are ignored... only what is there checked that matters (overrides global group perms) ... afaik
you can only reset back to global ones if you want, then the group perms inheritance will work again
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hrsmsI understand that categories override group. Object overrides category. Figured it out!! It's back to tiki_p_modify_object_categories again. It was removed for category "GregH". I could still see the tab, but all categories are disabled. When I added it, they all come back. As as expected, among the sub-cats for "Modellers", I can only check/uncheck the category "GregH". Excellent!!! [18:54]
luciashnice :) [18:56]
hrsmsThank you so much for your help. I've struggled with this for hours. Was VERY excited about the possibilities with tiki, but was rapidly losing faith. Knew it was my problem all along, but it was so hard to get help it seemed the system would be unusable (forum posts hardly ever answered). But I'll get better and more independent as time goes on. My faith is restored. It really is the most integrated out-of-the-box system, an [18:57]
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luciashhrsms: np, good to hear your faith is restored :) [19:04]
tiki-calendar.php is broken in trunk [19:13]
chealerluciash: how? [19:17]
luciashFatal error: Cannot redeclare correct_start_day() (previously declared in /home/luci/Development/tikitrunk/tiki-calendar_setup.php:373) in /home/luci/Development/tikitrunk/tiki-calendar_setup.php on line 381
chealer: ah, i think to reproduce you have to add module calendar new
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chealerluciash: right
luciash: Stéphane is supposed to fix it eventually: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=20100103144255.GC91144%40gromalin.logidee.com
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luciashah, fine [19:23]
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NetworkElfhi all
can anyone give me a pointer to the doc page that tells how to put a ? inside a link, please?
I don't seem to be able to hit on the correct combo of keywords when searching.
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luciash>doctwo Wiki+Config [20:06]
Sug4rhttp://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki+Config [20:06]
luciashsee the part Wiki_Link_Format [20:06]
NetworkElfok, i'll take a look. thank you both. [20:08]
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NetworkElfok, that was the clue i needed. I wasn't using pagename|comment
thanks again for the help.
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24707 10/trunk/lib/setup/error_reporting.php: global [20:21]
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triciadoc.tw.o: edit plugin displays in french, everything else is in english, anyone else with this problem [20:23]
luciashtricia: page probably cached [20:26]
triciaHi Luci, how do I flush the cache ?? [20:27]
luciashif the page is cached it should be little green icon there
wiki-cached
otherwise it is a bug and it needs to be flushed globally on tiki-admin_system.php?do=all
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triciadon't see a green icon & I've been editing the page a lot so cache should be stale [20:29]
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24708 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): global, deprecated, notice [20:33]
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24709 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_code.php: deprecated [20:40]
SEWilco2The "green icon" might depend upon the theme you're using. On theme fluid-index I instead see a little carat symbol in the menu. [20:40]
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SEWilco2{CODE} will be deprecated? Will the DB update script replace {CODE with something else? [20:41]
triciaSEWilco2L it's on doc.tw.o default theme I suppose I didn't change it, still don't know how to flush it locally ?? [20:46]
sylviegSEWilco2: no it is only the ereg, ereg_repalce, spilt... that are deprecated [20:53]
CIA-84tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24710 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: deprecated [20:53]
chealeryay! [20:53]
SEWilco2oh. yay! [20:53]
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SEWilco2tricia: in the Admin menu, look for "Sys admin" or "Tiki Cache/sys admin" [20:55]
rmcc316Hey, are thre any plans to write an official book?
That would be fabulous
Oh well, Im out for now.. Peez
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triciaSEWilco2: i don't have admin rights on doc.tw.o [21:07]
SEWilco2tricia: Oh, that's what you meant by "local". Well, maybe the cache times out in 30 minutes. Don't know what it set to on doc.tw.o
SEWilco2 starts writing "Z Oficciol Boock of TikiWiki"
bork bork bork
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triciabook: problem is code base & admin will have changed 5 times before you finish writing [21:11]
CIA-84tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24711 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
tikiwiki: - CONTINUED: Reactoring: Adding some methods in editlib that will eventually be
tikiwiki: used to make translation related portions of tiki-editpage clearer. More to
tikiwiki: come. PS: Please leave the traces in while I am debugging these methods (this
tikiwiki: code is currently not active anyway).
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24712 10/trunk/templates/tiki-user_preferences.tpl: notice [21:30]
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RavenC_Is jquery.sheet still planned for 5? [22:01]
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RavenC_will have to ask tomorrow. Have a nice evening everyone [22:03]
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CIA-84tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24713 10/trunk/templates/tiki-edit_translation.tpl:
tikiwiki: - CONTINUED: Reactoring: Adding some methods in editlib that will eventually be
tikiwiki: used to make translation related portions of tiki-editpage clearer. More to
tikiwiki: come. PS: Please leave the traces in while I am debugging these methods (this
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