#tikiwiki 2010-02-04,Thu

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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r24830 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-perspective.tpl: [ENH] Admin's Edit-perspective link shouldn't be outside the module box.	[07:54]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r24831 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] cssmenus dependency should be indicated for topbar menu id, since the menu tikiwiki: can use either a CSS menu or PHPL menu. Actually "or" should printed between tikiwiki: these on the Look and Feel page, but how to do the logic for that in tikiwiki: lib/prefs/feature.php?	[08:26]
	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r24832 10/trunk/lib/articles/artlib.php: [MOD]Add heading and body of new articles in notification emails. Thanks Pablo from precarios.org to suggest this hack (I never understood why that content was not in the notification message for articles). tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r24833 10/branches/proposals/4.x/lib/articles/artlib.php: [BP/r24832][MOD]Add heading and body of new articles in notification emails. Thanks Pablo from precarios.org to suggest this hack (I never understood why that content was not in the notification message for articles). tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r24834 10/branches/proposals/3.x/lib/articles/artlib.php: [BP/r24832][MOD]Add heading and body of new articles in notification emails. Thanks Pablo from precarios.org to suggest this hack (I never understood why that content was not in the notification message for articles).	[08:32]
	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r24835 10/trunk/comments.php: [MOD]Username to be included in QUOTE. Fix applied as reported long ago in wish2089. Thanks people at precarios-www tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r24836 10/branches/proposals/4.x/comments.php: [BP/r24835][MOD]Username to be included in QUOTE. Fix applied as reported long ago in wish2089. Thanks people at precarios-www tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r24837 10/branches/proposals/3.x/comments.php: [BP/r24835][MOD]Username to be included in QUOTE. Fix applied as reported long ago in wish2089. Thanks people at precarios-www	[08:50]
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coaboa	hello	[09:47]
chibaguy	coaboa, how is the yaml framework project?	[09:54]
coaboa	currently I am on a different thing. Thought that I'll try it when V5 is out and do it while upgrading from current version. did you had a chance to have a look @ their examples?	[09:56]
	after the discussion about lite css i'am somewhat uncertain. Plus I would liek to talk to Mr. Jesse (Author of YAML) about licensing as luciash said it is incompatible with the LGPL license of Tike *like	[10:04]
chibaguy	Not yet, I'm also busy with other things for nw. now.	[10:04]
coaboa	My "feeling" is that usuing a well maintained stable css framework will free some of you guys time for core tiki things.	[10:06]
chibaguy	I think *lite.css is strong regarding the overall layout (columns, etc.). Where Tiki is weaker is the smaller details. This is improving as basic styles are moved to layout.css, and as template files are made more consistent (like button styles, tabs, etc.). In a way, we're getting closer to having a css framework. Since the css class names come from the .tpl files, I don't know how easily an outside framework can be adapted for tiki.	[10:07]
coaboa	this sounds great. the technically best theme (in my opinion) is tikinewt.	[10:11]
chibaguy	heh, I like that one too, actually. Others are flashier, but tikinewt is really comfortable to just do work with.	[10:11]
coaboa	I think there are two option 1. change tiki.tpl 2. change the div class/id labels in the yaml framework.	[10:12]
chibaguy	a problem with option 1 is that not only tiki.tpl, but many tpl files contain css classes.	[10:13]
coaboa	someone (ricks99?) told me that all div definitiona ar made within tiki.tpl	[10:14]
chibaguy	no, actually that's only the main layout divs.	[10:15]
coaboa	so is there a list (thats how the discussion startet last time) of all div id/class resp. css labels/definitios?	[10:17]
chibaguy	consider a module. it contains at least div class="box", div class="box-title", div class="box-data", div class="box-footer", a shadow div, and the title div also has children. I don't think there's a list. If you extracted the classes and ids from layout.css, design.css, lite.css and the files in /css, you'd get most of them. (there's a lot) old ones get consolidated or removed, but new features bring new ones.	[10:17]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r24839 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [MOD] French translation	[10:25]
coaboa	now I see why for each of the drupal/yoomla/typo3 implementations of yaml a seperate projekt started;-)	[10:26]
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chibaguy	probably necessary, I guess.	[10:30]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r24840 10/branches/proposals/3.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [BP/r24827][MOD]Add clearer color (greyish) + italics to the description field tikiwiki: by default in all themes, as well as to character count. It can be overridable tikiwiki: in a theme by theme basis, which imho is better than the default black and not tikiwiki: italics as default (and no css class for description) before this commit. Thanks tikiwiki: Ricks99 for tips and feedback.	[10:43]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r24842 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.title.php: [FIX] XHTML validation: duplicate definition of class attribute	[11:24]
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Mazzachre	Hi there... I am looking at Tikiwiki for intranet and comunity site for development department... I have got it running and I created myself as user and logged in... Howver none of the features I have enabled after selecting a profile (community) shows in the menu... And apparently I don�t have access to the File Gallery as my own user (only as admin) I have enabled Calendar (And some other stuff) in features in the admin page... But only the Admin user have a Calendar link in the menu (on the left) I have gone to permissions on calendar and added permission to Editor (and my user is in editor/SubAdmin) but still no calendars...	[12:00]
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Mazzachre	Morning then :) My user have only Home, Wiki and Forums in the meny menu	[12:03]
sylvieg	Is an admin able to see calendar in the menu?	[12:10]
Mazzachre	Yes	[12:19]
sylvieg	and if the user type the url tiki-calendar.php does he has a permission denied	[12:20]
Mazzachre	Yes (just tested)	[12:21]
	Any idea what I have not done? Or done wrong? (This is my first view of Tiki... So I am a complete newbie) And aside from Calendar, I have enabled articles, blogs, trackers and freetags... Neither of these are shown for my user either (same as calendar) I guess there is some kind of permission configuration I have failed?	[12:28]
chibaguy	The community profile should assign the needed permissions, but maybe you should check if the registered or anonymous groups have the permissions (on tiki-admingroups.php).	[12:30]
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ricks99	@Mazzachre after enabling the specific feature, you need to grant the use group (Registered, Anonymous, etc) permission to acutally use the feature.	[12:53]
Mazzachre	Ya... Uhm thx... Just found the tiki-admingroups.php and looking through it... The new object permissions looks nice This program can do alot of things...	[12:54]
ricks99	yup	[12:55]
Mazzachre	Used to docuwiki... Which can only do... well.. wiki... and only with text and links and such...	[12:56]
	Is there a plugin to use svn in tiki? So I could show svn repositories, with check in comments and add trackers and wiki pages to sources?	[13:02]
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ricks99	not that i know of	[13:04]
Mazzachre	hmmm... Such a one would be nice... Dunno if I have the time to develop one... I can see there is some jabber integration... Does that just give some web chat module? And, how does tagging work? I was expecting some kind of tag space on pages so I could attach tags and perhaps somewhere (module? Don't know how they work) where a tagcloud would be present...	[13:04]
ricks99	there is a web chat module available and tagging (i.e., folksonomy) feature	[13:10]
Mazzachre	Hmm... where does one change his own password? Or is that a permission also?	[13:16]
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coaboa	you can include the tagcloud via the module you must have enabld user_can_change passwd preference	[13:16]
ricks99	admin can ghange pw on admi: general see docs for details	[13:17]
Mazzachre	I have enabled Users can change their password. But as the user I don't see anywhere I can do that?	[13:18]
ricks99	did u enable the user prefs feature?	[13:19]
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Jyhem	plop	[13:20]
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xavi	luciash? or ricks99?	[13:24]
ricks99	hi xavi	[13:24]
xavi	I?ev upgraded a site to tiki4, and I have the images in the header moved a bit down hi ricks99	[13:25]
Mazzachre	ricks99, Where to enable user prefs? I don't have one in features...	[13:25]
xavi	http://gavarrespedia.org using the same customized style as in tiki3 (from andreas08) and while in tiki4, the images are a bit down they are inserted through module random_images in the header, with nobox param	[13:25]
ricks99	@Mazzchre: on the Admin: Community page	[13:26]
xavi	I knew how to check that (more or less) with web developer toolbar for firefox...	[13:27]
ricks99	@xavi: do u mean the vertical placement of the random image?	[13:27]
xavi	but current 3.6.2 version of firefox (namoroka) doesn't allow web developer toolbar extension to work yes, vertical placement	[13:28]
ricks99	need to edit the margin of the div#random_image	[13:28]
xavi	no green line should be seen on top of the image in the right corner	[13:28]
ricks99	in layout.css	[13:28]
xavi	ok, thanks!	[13:28]
ricks99	by default it is 1em	[13:28]
xavi	it seems that this change was not needed in tiki3	[13:29]
ricks99	np. easy answers are my specialty	[13:29]
xavi	:-)	[13:29]
ricks99	lots of theme diffs between 3 vs. 4	[13:29]
xavi	yes, I rad this twice: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Stylesheet+changes+from+Tiki+3+to+4 s/rad/read	[13:29]
ricks99	i assume u want the picture label removed too?	[13:29]
xavi	yes	[13:30]
ricks99	it is in the "name" class. just make it display:none	[13:30]
xavi	ok, thanks	[13:31]
ricks99	btw, i committed a enh a while back to allow nav bar in structures to display at top & bottom. just fyi	[13:31]
xavi	xavi is slowly learning :-) (I already spotted that "name" class myself a min. ago) "fyi" thanks	[13:31]
ricks99	my testing showed that users are more likely to use the nav bar at the bottom (especially for long pages)	[13:32]
Mazzachre	Ah ok.. that is a little hard to find... MyTiki->MyInfo->Account Information...	[13:32]
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ricks99	can make ur own menu/option to give more visibilty	[13:33]
RavenC	hello all	[13:33]
ricks99	hi RavenC	[13:34]
Mazzachre	Not so much for myself as for the users that come on... Some of them are non-technical...	[13:34]
ricks99	i highly recommed creating a custom menu for ur tiki	[13:35]
Mazzachre	Hmmm... How to do that? Ofcause it would also be nice if it was folding and stuff... So it wan't so long an intimidating :)	[13:35]
xavi	excellent, ricks99!!! :-)	[13:36]
Mazzachre	(that's what she said...)	[13:36]
xavi	Fixed in less than 10 min! (I had already invested 30 min trying to fix it myself alone) thanks heaps!	[13:36]
ricks99	@Mazzachre: see my primer: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Configuring+Menus @xavi: looks good!	[13:37]
xavi	thks! :-)	[13:37]
ricks99	is the calendar using the regular mini calendar? or did u customize?	[13:38]
xavi	:-) regular (and fixes that I committed weeks ago to proposals/4.x ;-) ) and trunk, of course	[13:38]
ricks99	i like it. nice	[13:38]
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xavi	ok, back to finish things before preparing my next classes cheers	[13:40]
ricks99	adios	[13:40]
xavi	:-)	[13:40]
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ricks99	ricks99 wishes tiki could drag & drop when editing/rearragning wiki structures...	[13:49]
Mazzachre	Hmmm... is there some "easy" way to manage users for my DavSVN and TikiWiki at the same place?	[13:57]
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ricks99	Tiki support mutliple CAS authentication methods. See Admin: Login page	[14:00]
Mazzachre	Ya... However I think my DavSVN currently support htpasswd and authz system... Dunno if any of them are useable here...	[14:07]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24846 10/trunk/lib/headerlib.php: [FIX] Oops debug message removal :(	[15:46]
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GillesM	hello after copy of 4.1 TW I got white page only idea?	[16:33]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24847 10/branches/experimental/tiki-log-merge/ (98 files in 24 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 24794 to 24846	[16:39]
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rmcc316	on age 152 of smarties it shows a insert module dialogue box. how do i bring that box up ?	[18:10]
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rmcc316	There appears to be an extra carriage return down the center of my tiki. http://riseupradioshow.fythmf.com/ .. Notice how the home page is one carriage return lower than the main menu and the shoutbox. is this something i can control?	[18:45]
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	Ignore my previous question. I chose not to display the title	[19:01]
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RavenC	laugh for the day: I'm at doc.tw.o looking up the syntax to display a module on a wiki page. Got the info and was like, where did my admin menu go? - I had forgotten to tab back to my intranet site.... same theme	[19:19]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24848 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/prefilter.jq.php: [FIX] Fix regexp to allow {jq} parameters (e.g. notonready=true) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24849 10/trunk/templates/tiki-articles-js.tpl: [FIX] Non-jQuery JavaScript needs to execute before document.ready (sometimes). Also indentation. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24850 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: [MOD] Downgrade auto_save remarksbox to info (less scary)	[19:22]
	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24851 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] Change article type fn chgArtType() used in Edit Article now counts unset properties as "n" (plus some missing var declarations and indentation) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24852 10/trunk/lib/tikidate-php5.php: [MOD] New function parseDateString() - usage to come...	[19:37]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r24857 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_countdown.php: tikiwiki: [ENH]For bug #2780. Added two new parameters to the COUNTDOWN plugin: tikiwiki: * show=dhms Specify what information to show (days, hours, minutes, seconds). Default = dhms tikiwiki: * since=y\|n Specify if the time since an elapse should be shown. Default = y tikiwiki: I did not address the "locate time" issue identified in the bug. tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r24858 10/branches/proposals/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_countdown.php: tikiwiki: [ENH]For bug #2780. Added two new parameters to the COUNTDOWN plugin: tikiwiki: * show=dhms Specify what information to show (days, hours, minutes, seconds). Default = dhms tikiwiki: * since=y\|n Specify if the time since an elapse should be shown. Default = y tikiwiki: I did not address the "locate time" issue identified in the bug. tikiwiki: This is identical to 24857 in trunk	[21:52]
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ibrrorg	{TRACKER(trackerId=action="Enter Yard" showmandatory="y" view="page")}{TRACKER} shows one button and allows me to title the button, but {TRACKERFILTER(trackerId=,filters=, fields= showlinks="y")}This is the result{TRACKERFILTER} posts a button on top and center bottom that says filter. Is there a way to post only one button and title that button like in the TRACKER example? obviously removed the pertinent data that would normally be there; drilldown: why can i label a TRACKER button but not a TRACKERFILTER	[22:15]
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luciash	ibrrorg: have you got action="My Label" there ?	[22:50]
ibrrorg	let me check nope---so just run it w/action= in the same way the TRACKER is?	[22:50]
luciash	should be, imho	[22:52]
ibrrorg	ah, always there in a bind THANX! also, posting in a min on the forum. may wanna take a look see! hope allz well!	[22:53]
sylvieg	missind trackerId=value	[22:53]
luciash	allz well :)	[22:53]
sylvieg	I know thre is a bug withe filter - the top button that is a switch .. I do disply: none is css are <div role.. > style-able?	[22:54]
ibrrorg	worked but the first button that says filter still appears---is this the bug u refer to @sylvieg?	[22:54]
luciash	sylvieg: only if u use div[role...]	[22:55]
sylvieg	the bug is that the switch to display or not the the filter setting is a little buggy	[22:55]
ibrrorg	any way to whack the button easily? if not i can live w/it---yeah, i'll live w/it! :) as that is greek to me! see, i'm easy to live w/just ask me! :)	[22:55]
sylvieg	it is what I said for now I do display:none on the classs of the buttom	[22:56]
luciash	ibrrorg: yup, as sylvieg said :)	[22:56]
sylvieg	(it needs some thinking because depending on the case you need the buttom)	[22:56]
luciash	you can put it in your L & F head code between <style type="text/css">{literal}...{/liteal}</style> tags quickie ;)	[22:57]
ibrrorg	{TRACKERFILTER(trackerId=4,filters=42/t:44/t:45/t:46/t, fields=44:45:46 action="Search Yards" showlinks="y")}This is the result{TRACKERFILTER} is the string---sorry about the code i didn't know how else to explain	[22:57]
sylvieg	I usually do exactly what luciash explained supose it need an additional param..	[22:58]
ibrrorg	yeah it just sorts some info for freight yards for hobos; i'll play w/it	[22:59]
luciash	sylvieg: btw, once i needed to hack trackerlist to not display submit button but included my own in the wiki template to allow positioning i wanted :-p	[22:59]
sylvieg	makes sense	[23:00]
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luciash	sylvieg: i will add a class to the submit button probably to allow some styling on it	[23:06]
sylvieg	the more you have class the better	[23:06]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r24859 10/trunk/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.tpl: [ENH] trackerfilter wikiplugin: added class for submit button to allow better styling tikiwiki: 03luciash * r24860 10/trunk/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerprefill.tpl: [ENH] trackerprefill wikiplugin: added class for submit button to allow better styling	[23:13]
	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r24861 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [ENH] tracker wikiplugin: added class for submit button to allow better styling	[23:25]
luciash	luciash wonders why tracker and trackerlist have no tpl	[23:25]

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