#tikiwiki 2010-02-05,Fri

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ibrrorg	didn't know if it posted as i lost connection: is it possible to restrict access to certain forums (say by groups or whatever) in the same kind of manner as a page-by-page restriction? didn't see anything in the documentation on forums	[00:12]
luciash	ibrrorg: try to assign them in a category with perms to restrict view to certain groups	[00:15]
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pascalstjean	Hey everyone, just wondering if it would be possible to email someone a message after they've filled out a tracker which would contain an email field. I know this should be done using the Registration system but the client doesn't want that. So before I go into something custom just wondering if anyone has done this before? Thank you	[00:32]
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ibrrorg	test	[00:33]
Caarrie	failed ^^	[00:33]
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ibrrorg	yeah so i don't know if stuff posted or not. bad storms here. so, luciash u were spot on! the forums don't even appear for non-cleared folks! keep finding these gems that seem to be custom coded for us hobos! @Caarrie :)	[00:34]
Caarrie	;)	[00:34]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r24862 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [ENH] tracker wikiplugin: no need to have submit buttons in another table row and cell and allow easy centering or aligning right for the buttons using the .input_submit_container	[00:37]
luciash	ibrrorg: u know u can read the irc log at http://irc.tikiwiki.org ?	[00:38]
ibrrorg	@luciash is that IN RE: my trackerfilter? yeah, going there in a min	[00:38]
luciash	ibrrorg: nope, that commit wasn't related to the trackerfilter pascalstjean: hi, yes !	[00:39]
ibrrorg	ah, yeah one day i hope to learn programming to help out instead of just asking a bunch of ?'s :)	[00:40]
pascalstjean	oh great. Is there an example?	[00:40]
luciash	email="from\|to\|..." param ibrrorg: no problem, but you are welcome to learn :)	[00:40]
ibrrorg	what 'language' per se should i begin to learn?	[00:41]
luciash	pascalstjean: see PluginTracker on doc.tw.o ibrrorg: depends what you want to focus on	[00:42]
ibrrorg	i would like to learn a base type of coding then probably expand into the modules (Maps and trackers especially) i learned BASIC, DOS, some dBase in HS (required here in the US) but all this is ancient	[00:46]
luciash	ibrrorg: to develop for tiki easiest is to help with (x)html fixes, then css, then javascript and most programming is php + php smarty combines all of them in the templates	[00:46]
ibrrorg	i was doing pretty good in MW and then switched to Twiki as its a FAR superior CMS	[00:46]
luciash	Twiki is some concurrent wiki ;) if you say just Tiki it is ok :) pascalstjean: the last param you can choose a tpl to fill the email with	[00:47]
ibrrorg	alright, so php and javascript are languages i recognize these would be considered the basic languages?	[00:48]
luciash	iirc ibrrorg: we don't have anything more in Tiki except SQL for db stuff ibrrorg: i think learning php is pretty easy, maybe easier than javascript i would say	[00:48]
ibrrorg	thanx! starting point	[00:50]
luciash	php is server side language while javascrit is client (browser) side	[00:50]
pascalstjean	luciash. Thank you so much.	[00:51]
ibrrorg	ill start w/javascript then	[00:52]
luciash	pascalstjean: welcome, it is very handy for "thank you" mails ;)	[00:52]
pascalstjean	you'll be the first to recieve one when I test it out in a few minutes :)	[00:53]
luciash	heheh i mean i already made some "survey" forms with that and used it for send "thank you" mail to people who filled it in	[00:53]
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ricks99	polom all	[01:14]
luciash	bolow e\|\| err :) bo\|ow e\|\| should be :)	[01:14]
ricks99	there u go :)	[01:15]
luciash	wb ricks99	[01:15]
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ricks99	is anyone actively working on enhancements for tiki's print structure feature?	[01:37]
pascalstjean	luciash: FYI just tried the feature and it worked. Thanks again.	[01:44]
luciash	fine :) ricks99: i don't think so	[01:44]
ricks99	:-(	[01:46]
luciash	any idea why is the "Search a Wiki Page" search box on http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php prefilled with "cMOcGiUdNq" ?	[01:49]
ricks99	bNPN!9oOWc	[01:50]
luciash	ah, you got another hash :)	[01:50]
ricks99	:-P	[01:50]
luciash	i am not logged in there btw must be some random hash leaking from somewhere in there ?	[01:51]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r24863 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-view_banner.tpl tiki-view_banner.php): [FIX]Click ratio should be presented as a percentage -- not a decimal value. tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r24864 10/branches/proposals/4.x/ (templates/tiki-view_banner.tpl tiki-view_banner.php): [FIX]Click ratio should be presented as a percentage -- not a decimal value. Backport of 24863 from /trunk/	[01:59]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24865 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-upload_file_progress.tpl tiki-upload_file.php): [FIX] tiki-upload_file : show the result of the upload	[08:17]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24866 10/branches/experimental/tiki-log-merge/ (21 files in 10 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 24846 to 24865	[08:29]
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luciash	polom polom	[08:45]
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Mazzachre	When I try to make a new menu module, when I select a menu and click the "+" to set that menu, nothing happens, I have to write the {menu id=XX} myself... Is that a known problem? (Tiki 4.1)	[09:01]
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Mazzachre	I don't see a tagcloud module... Is there one?	[09:28]
luciash	Mazzachre: hi i don't know about the first problem you describe Mazzachre: yes, there is the module "Freetags Wiki" or "Freetags simmilar content" (freetags_current and freetags_morelikethis)	[09:29]
sylvieg	has someone an example on of css horiz menu filling all the width of the body?	[09:36]
luciash	sylvieg: u mean the menu bar full width or expanding the menu items to spread all over the menu full width ?	[09:37]
sylvieg	I put in the custom site footer : <div id="bottom-menu">{menu id=43 type=horiz css=1}</div> and I would like to have each option spreading nicely on all the width (not on the left)	[09:38]
Mazzachre	If I want to make a menu item that opens Preferences -> Account Information (change password) How to do that?	[09:40]
luciash	then you have to give every item equal percentage width 100%/<num_of_menu_items> the top ones	[09:40]
sylvieg	yes but I do know how many options I will have in the menu...	[09:41]
luciash	Mazzachre: add link to it with &cookietab=2	[09:42]
Mazzachre	so tiki-user_preferences.php&cookietab=2 ?	[09:43]
luciash	sylvieg: there's no other way unless you know number of top menu items (.horbarmenuitem i think) Mazzachre: if it's only first param in the URL, then ?cookietab=2	[09:44]
Mazzachre	Ya... ofcause... Well that just a little unprofessional... Anyways thx	[09:46]
luciash	np, what would be professional by your opinion ?	[09:46]
Mazzachre	Well, some name/id... If the preferences are changes somehow and this is no longer tab 2, then I would have to change the menu entry... Hmmm.. Could I use trackers as todo list? Or is there a todolist feature of some kind?	[09:48]
luciash	ah, i see yep, trackers are nice for that	[09:50]
Mazzachre	Also... Is anyone wok	[09:51]
luciash	there is user tasks feature, but not very much maintained recently	[09:51]
Mazzachre	working on an SVN module?	[09:51]
luciash	or simple todo list can be a simple wiki page ;)	[09:51]
Mazzachre	Mazzachre typing with left hand while eating nutella on white bread with right hand..	[09:52]
luciash	SVN module for listing what ? heheh	[09:52]
Mazzachre	Integration with my SVN repositories so I can see sources, changes and add trackers, wikis and polls to sources/folders...	[09:53]
luciash	on dev.tw.o i think we use custom module with included rss feed of CIA svn stats	[09:53]
Mazzachre	That would be awesome..	[09:53]
luciash	otherwise i don't think anyone is working on some special SVN module	[09:53]
sylvieg	(coe use the plugin snarf to pick up info from svn repositories	[09:54]
luciash	COE website ?	[09:56]
sylvieg	the Strasbourg guys	[09:57]
luciash	sylvieg: yup, but is it public ?	[09:57]
sylvieg	I do not know more - the only this I know is that they use snarf to do documentation	[09:58]
luciash	ok	[09:58]
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Mazzachre	So... I can insert a tracker in wiki page?	[10:08]
coaboa	hello	[10:08]
luciash	hi coaboa, yes, Mazzachre, using the tracker wikiplugin	[10:09]
Mazzachre	luciash, Hmmm... How? :D	[10:09]
luciash	you see the little (?) icon while editing wiki page ? click it and then you can insert wikiplugins syntax Mazzachre: see for more: >doctwo PluginTracker	[10:10]
Sug4r	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginTracker	[10:11]
coaboa	In general it is a good idea to look at the list of available wikiplugins. There are dozens of them. doc.tikiwiki.otg/Wiki+Plugins mostly you get a pretty good idea of what they do from the "Plugin-Name"	[10:13]
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chibaguy	polom	[10:16]
coaboa	hi	[10:16]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24867 10/trunk/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] installer : don't use {jq} in the installer for now	[10:22]
Mazzachre	Heh... it is working :)	[10:26]
chibaguy	Is module-shading (open\|close each module) in trunk broken for anyone else?	[10:31]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24868 10/trunk/templates/tiki-change_password.tpl: tikiwiki: [FIX] fic change-passwd {jq} function should not be declared in the onready tikiwiki: part... So add notonready=true in {jq}	[10:32]
chibaguy	hmm, probably my problem. In my svn trunk it works ok, but in an exported set of files it doesn't. maybe file problem here.	[10:32]
Mazzachre	Hmmm... How to make the tracker input field reapear when adding something in a wiki? As it is now, it is changed for the text in the tag...	[10:33]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24869 10/trunk/ (11 files in 9 dirs): tikiwiki: [MERGE] merging of experimental/tiki-log-merge to trunk tikiwiki: The aim of this is to unify tikilogs adn tikiactionlog, so now all logs are recorded via tikiactions logs...	[10:42]
luciash	hi chibaguy chibaguy: worksforme Mazzachre: url param	[10:51]
chibaguy	hi luciash, I have different results on a couple of installations here, so need to check what is different.	[10:54]
luciash	chibaguy: i guess we need tikidiff script ;)	[10:54]
chibaguy	it's weird though, that in trunk on my wamp server, the bundled themes are ok, but extra themes aren't getting the imported stylesheets.	[10:55]
Mazzachre	Weeee! It workses :D	[10:55]
chibaguy	:-)	[10:56]
	Screencasts was removed in trunk, wasn't it? So I wonder how I can get rid of 'Notice: Undefined index: feature_wiki_screencasts in ...libsetupperms.php on line 23'	[11:02]
luciash	forgotten	[11:07]
chibaguy	Anyone else having white page on trunk installer? Fatal error: Smarty error: [in tiki-install.tpl line 281]: syntax error: unrecognized tag: document.getElementById('install-link').... Seems to be be related to {jq} tag heh, my local trunk installations have a lot of problems right now. :-/	[11:09]
Mazzachre	Uhm wait a moment... there is something wrong with the calendar!! Today is friday the 5.th only the calendar says 5th. is a Saturday... An there should be a Monday the 7th... Which is on Sunday... This is bad...	[11:20]
chibaguy	welcome to tiki time ;-)	[11:21]
Mazzachre	That ius the calendar module... How do I set the week to start on Monday not on sunday... Only strange Americans and their derivatives start weeks on Sunday...	[11:22]
luciash	Mazzachre: iirc on Admin home → General → Date and time	[11:23]
Mazzachre	The combination however that the Calendar module starts on Monday, but don't change the date table so it shows wrong is even worse..	[11:23]
chibaguy	btw, i found that the reasons the extras themes weren't importing the layout files was due to a change in import statement.	[11:24]
Mazzachre	No... no option to change when the week starts...	[11:24]
chibaguy	now is @import url("lite/lite.css"); before, it was @import "lite/lite.css"; which worked before but doesn't now.	[11:25]
luciash	Mazzachre: or was it Admin home → Calendar ? chibaguy: but it is not correct @import "lite/lite.css"; the url one is right imho	[11:25]
Mazzachre	ok... that helped.. Default = American + Browser detect failed horribly...	[11:26]
luciash	Mazzachre: that sounds really as an horror, good that you're out of it :)	[11:27]
Mazzachre	:D I am getting the hang of this... Hopefully this will be useable to my new development department...' I have never started something like this from scratch before... Always just been a hired programmer... Never started a new company from scratch..	[11:28]
chibaguy	luciash, i guess for now I have to change the import urls, to work, tho. Mazzachre, what does your business do?	[11:34]
Mazzachre	GSM messaging, billing and mobile credit transactions...	[11:35]
luciash	chibaguy: yep, it must be the minify fault either fix the minify or the @import	[11:35]
chibaguy	even with minify off, the original imports don't work now.	[11:37]
Mazzachre	Creating a personal calendar, can anyone else see it by default?	[11:41]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24870 10/trunk/lib/cache/pagecache.php: [FIX] $key not defined - hopefully $k is the right one?	[11:43]
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chibaguy	ah, hmm, now the other stylesheets are getting the imported files. hmm	[11:58]
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jonnyb	polom	[12:14]
chibaguy	hey jonnyb	[12:19]
jonnyb	hi chibaguy Shame i'm not going to finally meet you in Montreal this time - typical!	[12:23]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24871 10/trunk/lib/core/lib/: [MOD] Update Zend framework to latest stable (1.10)	[12:24]
chibaguy	yeah, I'm sorry about that too.	[12:28]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24872 10/trunk/freetag_list.php: [FIX] Notice tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24873 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.html_select_time.php: [FIX] Split is deprecated	[12:32]
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luciash	chibaguy: heh, you're going to montreal "base" again ?	[13:20]
chibaguy	Yes, a lucky guy again. :-)	[13:21]
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luciash	chibaguy: won in lottery ? :-p u must travel to visit eu one day too ;)	[13:27]
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RavenC	hi all	[13:38]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r24874 10/trunk/styles/ (layout/layout-reference.css layout/layout.css strasa.css): [MOD] CSS: move the input_submit_container in the general layout.css + added to reference file tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24875 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [MOD] Move jQuery input setup to after element is attached to parent tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24876 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Fix date format for plugins (datepicker) as parsing formats set in prefs is too brittle (depends on locale, browser etc). tikiwiki: Remove unused parseDateString() and JS/PHP date format info.	[13:50]
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sylvieg	does somebody know where the color for the jquery help popup is?	[15:12]
jonnyb	hi sylvieg - do you mean the tooltips?	[15:12]
sylvieg	yes:-)	[15:13]
jonnyb	or the edit wiki syntax etc? (oh)	[15:13]
sylvieg	the dark blue and light blue when in tiki-admin.php you over the menu icon or the help icon	[15:13]
jonnyb	various places (now) - search for cluetip in *.css	[15:14]
sylvieg	ok thx	[15:14]
jonnyb	try design.css and strasa/mono	[15:15]
luciash	firebug will tell you exactly	[15:15]
jonnyb	they can be a bit tricky to right-click on ;)	[15:15]
sylvieg	not easy to catch with firebug... it is dynamic	[15:15]
jonnyb	there's a commented line in tiki-jquery.js which makes them sticky	[15:16]
sylvieg	thx - got it	[15:16]
luciash	heya jonny ! how's england ? :) ah, it hides on right click ?	[15:16]
jonnyb	oh the usual (for February) - grey, but stopped snowing/freezing (for now) how are you, luciash?	[15:16]
luciash	i am used to chrome inspect anyway lately and it shows pretty much everything i need snow in london ? no way :)	[15:17]
jonnyb	last month - lots!	[15:17]
sylvieg	... ah - there is a chrome inspect ... need to install it	[15:18]
jonnyb	everything stopped!	[15:18]
sylvieg	and Bosotn has almost no snow this year	[15:18]
luciash	cool :) here plenty of it too, we're looking for space where to put it ;) sylvieg: no need to install, it's already included in chrome/chromium ah, and yeah, i am fine, tnx jonny :)	[15:18]
sylvieg	ah cool	[15:19]
luciash	it shows some cluetips stuff at the end of the inspected code jonnyb: btw, much cooler would be some delay for the cluetips and then fade them out... that way it could even ontain some links or cluetip description text could be selected and copied quickly *contain, even	[15:23]
jonnyb	there's probably an option for that	[15:25]
luciash	i think so :)	[15:25]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24877 10/trunk/lib/prefslib.php: tikiwiki: [EHN] allow a 'keywords' field in the definition of prefs to be able to find tikiwiki: prefs more easily...	[15:29]
ricks99	thank you sept_7 !!!!!!!!!!!! :-)	[15:30]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24878 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Various notice and warning fixes for the installer tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24879 10/trunk/tiki-calendar.php: [EHN] use $access->check_feature instead of open coding it..	[15:32]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r24880 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: [ENH] Small layout enhancement for Prefernces search	[15:52]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24881 10/trunk/templates/prefs/ (flag.tpl list.tpl): [MOD] Don't bind event to show/hide the _childcontainer div if it doesn't exist. tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r24882 10/trunk/lib/core/lib/Multilingual/Aligner/BilingualAligner.php: [MOD][i18n] Added an outline of the automatic bilingual sentence alignment algorithm in BilingualAligner. Doesn't do anything really. Just to provide guidance to Akshi Gupta, a student who is working on finishing this. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24883 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_look.php: [FIX] jQ for theme & option menus now uses name attribute to find them (id's changed after lesser magic). tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24884 10/trunk/temp/public/: [SVN] Add *.js to ignores	[15:58]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24885 10/trunk/templates/error.tpl: [FIX]error: say at least page not found - when redirect on search. Put the error in remarksbox	[17:01]
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Kimberlee	hello all.	[17:14]
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jonnyb	hi Kimberlee	[17:24]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24888 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Add $container_class to output of articles and bloglist plugins (.wikiplugin_articles or .wikiplugin_bloglist respectively) for custom CSS targeting.	[17:25]
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Kimberlee	hiya jonnyb! still in Ca?	[17:41]
jonnyb	no, back in gloomy London now (although it did rain a surprising amount there too!)	[17:42]
Kimberlee	I hope it was warmer than NY :)	[17:43]
jonnyb	oh yes (but it didn't stop the locals complaining! :) )	[17:44]
Kimberlee	typical.	[17:46]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24890 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Optionally show article id in list	[17:46]
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OFF	good afternoon everyone! i have a couple of (simple) questions regarding twiki. is this the right place to ask?	[18:11]
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OFF	"Just ask, don't ask to ask ;)" haha 1. I have an Admin user. Where can I get the twiki version number?	[18:13]
luciash	changelog.txt	[18:14]
jonnyb	i think twiki is a different thing - we do tikiwiki here	[18:14]
ricks99	@OFF: this is the channel for tikiwiki -- not twiki. 2 different applications	[18:14]
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OFF	can I access changelog.txt from web interface? I don't have access to server folders sorry, didnt know about "twiki". I use TikiWiki =)	[18:15]
ricks99	tiki versio number shown on admin: general page	[18:16]
OFF	thanks ricks99. Can't believe I didn't see it there... :S I'm using version 2.2. Is it still mantained? Is v4 stable?	[18:17]
ricks99	yes.see http://info.tikiwiki.org/Download	[18:18]
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chealer	OFF: 2 is hardly maintained, no	[18:19]
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OFF	thanks both next question: I was having a hard time trying to understand how permissions are managed in tikiwiki. Then I found about permissions per Category...	[18:20]
chealer	jonnyb: I was thinking of doing r24870, I thought something else would be broken if I did it :-) chealer is happy to see several fixes	[18:21]
OFF	But the only permissions I can apply using categories are Edit and View, but they seem permission applicable to the categories themselves not the content. Am I missing something?	[18:22]
ricks99	perms have been vastly re-worked in 4.x	[18:23]
jonnyb	chealer: yes it was a guess (but nothing's blown up and no one's rolled it back, so it must be fine!) :)	[18:23]
ricks99	ricks99 trying to remember back to 2.x.... if i recall, u need to apply the perm to the group and/orbject in addition to* the category*	[18:24]
OFF	but I only see two permission for categories: tiki_p_view_categories and tiki_p_admin_categories Can I do something like giving tiki_p_wiki_attach_files permission to group Registered for content in a given category?	[18:26]
ricks99	y. so if u want user from group FOO to edit a wiki page in category BAR... FOO needs tiki_p_edit and BAR needs edit_category	[18:27]
Kimberlee	u have to set the individual pers on the objects in the category perm=pers the category perms are on the category itself, not the objects in the category.	[18:27]
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OFF	and the only category perms are tiki_p_view_categories and tiki_p_admin_categories? Or am I missing something?	[18:30]
Kimberlee	yes, but what objects are in the category?	[18:31]
ricks99	should have a tiki_p_edit_categoried	[18:31]
Kimberlee	ricks99: thanks, your right.	[18:31]
OFF	Wiki pages are in the category I'm working with I don't have the tiki_p_edit_categoried just admin and view	[18:32]
Kimberlee	for instance, the wiki pages in the category. The permissions you set on wiki pages for that group will be applied. (IF you have permissions on that category too)	[18:33]
OFF	maybe a limitation in version 2.2?	[18:33]
ricks99	@OFF: u assign perms from the top-down (group -> category -> object), then assign the overrides from the bottom up	[18:33]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24891 10/trunk/templates/error.tpl: [FIX]fix 24885 - thx pkdille	[18:33]
ricks99	<shameless plug> See http://twbasics.keycontent.org/How+Permissions+Work for a primer (available for 2.x, too) </shameless plug>	[18:33]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24892 10/trunk/tiki-wikiplugin_edit.php: [FIX] Plugin edit message	[18:35]
OFF	I think I have the permission concepr clearer now. But still having difficulty in assigning Category Permissions Categories will inherite Groups permissions?	[18:37]
ricks99	ricks99 recalls a category perm issue with 2.x. try clearing all tiki caches to get the "edit" category perm	[18:38]
OFF	How do you relate Groups with Categories?	[18:38]
ricks99	if a user in group FOO goes to an object in category BAR.... if the BAR category has no custom pers, the group FOO perms will be used	[18:39]
OFF	and if the content has Object Permissions, none of the above will be used, right?	[18:40]
ricks99	correct the object-specific perm will override.	[18:41]
OFF	will this work only if the are specified the same permission or the mere fact of having any Objet perm will disable all Category perms?	[18:41]
ricks99	not disable -- override. theres a slight difference. but for example, if a wiki page has tiki_p_view for Admin group (object-specifi), then Anonymous group (even if the Anon group has tiki_p_view) cannot see the page ricks99 likes the perm assignments in 4.x... much* easier to use & understand*	[18:43]
OFF	So, specifing any object perm "override" all category (or group) perm?	[18:45]
ricks99	y	[18:46]
OFF	if I give Object perm tiki_p_view to group Anon and Group perm tiki_p_edit to Registered, will a Registered user been able to edit that object? what do you mean by "y"?	[18:50]
ricks99	y. (trying to remember if edit includes view in 2.x) may also need to gexplicity give view to Registered group too y = yes (sorry). si	[18:51]
OFF	hehe, OK. So forget my last question. I got the idea. So, I need to delete Object perms in order to Category perms to apply... But I'm still at a lost at how to apply cat. perms... how smoth is update process in tikiwiki? may I have any problem updating to v4 from 2.2?	[18:52]
ricks99	upgrade should be relatively painless. be sure to read the release notes for 3.x and 4.x so that you are aware of all the changes	[18:55]
OFF	ok. thanks for all the valuable info so far :)	[19:00]
ricks99	good luck :)	[19:00]
OFF	ah, other question :) if user 3 belongs to groups Editors (with only edit perms) and Viewers (with only view perm), will the user be able to edit? or both groups need to have edit perm?	[19:00]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r24893 10/trunk/lib/commentslib.php: [FIX] After a second look, the root of all evil was the great idea to retrieve all posts in a forum to obtain the last one. Please stop.	[19:03]
ricks99	the user will be able to edit.	[19:03]
chealer	hum, I got "An error occured while performing the request." in trunk when logging in	[19:04]
OFF	upon clearing the cache I now have 4 category perms available	[19:05]
chealer	jonnyb: do you see the user modules data textarea in trunk?	[19:05]
ricks99	@OFF: yes, i reall that as a known issue in 2.x	[19:06]
chealer	hum, one more such error	[19:06]
jonnyb	chealer: coo - no, it's gone :( it's the resize thing broken	[19:06]
chealer	jonnyb: I seem to remember seeing some days ago, maybe a week	[19:07]
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chealer	s/seeing/seeing this issue/	[19:08]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r24894 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [NEW]wiki: new perm tiki_p_wiki_view_ref to be able to see a page in modules and rss (without the data) convenient for a site with only one page visible. (more modules to come)	[19:10]
	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r24895 10/trunk/lib/ (prefs/global.php prefslib.php): [FIX] Notices	[19:16]
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freeman57	Greetings peoples! Wondering if there'll be a 4.2 before 5.0	[19:26]
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jonnyb	hi freeman57 - i should think so (i have dozens of commits to check! ;) ) no idea when though	[19:29]
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freeman57	I bet. I'm stalling here... oh, don't worry about that, it's in the next rev, real soon ;-) Well, off to build some trackers. Toodle-oo, and thanks for all the cool stuff!	[19:33]
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RavenC	caustin : tiki-admin_links.php Hi Kimberlee! :)	[21:43]
	Caustin: sorry, i didn't read the "enable" part..... It is under General/navigation	[21:54]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24896 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.pagination_links.php: [MOD] Add show_numbers param to pagination controls (default "y")	[21:55]
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_nemesis_	hey guys a question is it possible to use a sql-database for the news ? i wan't only to show the last ... maybe 5 ... news on the starting page and the rest on the news page	[22:02]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r24897 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) tikiwiki: [ENH] Page history (mini-revamp part 2): tikiwiki: Single navigation when diff is of adjacent versions tikiwiki: Comparison radio buttons disabled when not relevant tikiwiki: Simplified diff_style menu (plus "advanced" mode button) tikiwiki: Clear diff when switching to session mode tikiwiki: Removed distracting numbers from navigation	[22:09]
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luciash	re jonnyb: have u noticed while workin' on it that the wiki page source displays nomore and it shows the wiki page history instead ? iirc ?source=0 displayed the source (wiki syntax) of the page	[22:41]
jonnyb	no - ooh, odd	[22:43]
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jonnyb	blimey - so it does! (my fault i think - i didn't realise it was that shared!) thanks for the alert :)	[22:43]
luciash	np, i was just wondering when/where it got broken :) noticed yesterday already i think maybe it wasn't you weren't :-p damn english ;)	[22:44]
jonnyb	wasn't is correct (does look odd though) off now - bibi all	[22:50]
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sylvieg	if I wnat to create a calendar, a category, a blog, a... when I create a group? Do i have to create a data channles? channel I understood one time - I think - but with no practice in this abscond world - I forgot again	[23:32]
	the transition to the 'choose file' instead of browse is hard I do not see anymore the path... and it is not working	[23:41]
luciash	when ? i don't understand	[23:43]
sylvieg	try to upload categs in admin->categ and see my message on devel .. wil have to load manually 100 categs this evening :-( because I do not want to debug something I do not like	[23:45]
luciash	ok	[23:46]
sylvieg	sylvieg will a mysql batch	[23:46]
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luciash	ok, red your message, still don't get it much better :) usually first i create group, then category, then assign perms, then assign that category to objects	[23:48]
sylvieg	Instead of 'Browse..' when you upload a file - you have now 'Choose a file' sh this one sylvieg multitasking - as in a big hurry to finish a project	[23:49]
luciash	sylvieg: but it is browser specific what the label on the "Browse" button is did u know that ?	[23:49]
sylvieg	luciash: you are the best - I though so - but now I think so so chrome has another way	[23:50]
luciash	unfortunatelly we cannot do much with that button (we, as web designers i mean) :( yes	[23:51]
sylvieg	and it is bugged in chrome - but working with FF	[23:52]
luciash	hmm, i didn't stumbled upon it... worked for me last time in chrome	[23:52]
sylvieg	I csv load the same file with chrome - problem - with FF ok	[23:53]
luciash	ah, hm, interesting, well i did with file upload to file galleries	[23:53]
sylvieg	but thx to you I have my 100 categs in in 1 mn	[23:54]
luciash	oh really ? great :)	[23:55]
sylvieg	do we have a csv batch group creation? It is good when I am doing real project .. I feel; the pain	[23:56]
luciash	i don't think so - we don't have csv batch group creation	[23:58]

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