[00:03] yohomer: try adding module switch theme to anonymous, and as anonymous, change theme to default [00:03] then remove module for anons [00:03] hth [00:03] g'night all [00:03] *** xavi1 has left [00:04] * yohomer ponders .... thank you. [00:04] that was probably my, um, "trick" at the time [00:04] * yohomer sighs [00:06] tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r25453 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/r/ (StatWiki.r index.php): [ENH]StatWiki.r removed since it's not needed anymore. Simplified (and fixed) without needing it. 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[00:41] *** Caarrie has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:42] *** Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki [00:42] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [00:50] *** Caarrie|sleeping has joined #tikiwiki [00:53] *** Caarrie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [00:59] *** luminoso has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [00:59] *** JP|NPU- has joined #tikiwiki [01:03] *** JP|NPU-T has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:07] *** Caarrie|away has joined #tikiwiki [01:10] *** Caarrie|sleeping has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [01:16] *** luminoso has joined #tikiwiki [01:41] tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r25455 10/trunk/lib/ (tikilib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sql.php): [FIX] Previous fix incomplete. Also updated formatting for table. [01:56] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r25456 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [01:56] tikiwiki: [NEW] Add geolocator functionality with ability to set user pref for default map [01:56] tikiwiki: view, as well as user location (lon., lat.). Implementation does requires [01:56] tikiwiki: feature_ajax, otherwise I would replace the tiki-gmap_locator.php right away. [01:57] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [02:04] i have set up category "Public" with tiki_p_view_trackers_closed for Anonymous [02:04] but still Anonymous can't see the closed items [02:05] i have intentionally unassigned perm tiki_p_view_trackers from them so they can view only closed items [02:05] is it a bug or feature that they have to be assigned to both ? [02:08] I think feature based on other pattern, like the wiki perms, you need both edit and rollback to rollback [02:09] but all this is debatable I think... [02:11] but this is only about view [02:12] *** iogburu has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [02:13] i cannot find a way yet, how to make certain items be viewable via trackerlist when "Public" and how to make the others not viewable even when going to the standard trackers listing [02:14] well, I suppose by using tiki_view_trackers_closed and so on ? [02:16] *g* it doesn't work even when i have both for the wiki page assigned to the category [02:16] i have trackerlist status="c" param [02:16] it worked before when i had status="opc" [02:18] ah, maybe i have to assign the perms to the tracker, not the Public category of the wiki page [02:28] *** Caarrie|away has joined #tikiwiki [02:28] *** iogburu has joined #tikiwiki [02:28] *** Caarrie has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [02:29] *** Caarrie|away has quit IRC (Client Quit) [02:29] *** Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki [02:31] grmbl, this is shooting blind :-( [02:31] none combination works [02:34] *** Caarrie|away has joined #tikiwiki [02:34] *** Caarrie has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [02:34] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [02:34] *** kiilo has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [02:40] it seems to me like a bug... when the item is closed, no matter what i do, it cannot be viewed in trackerlist plugin for other than admin [02:42] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r25457 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Show the current user location of the user if user is specified for geolocating [02:54] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r25458 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-gmap_locator.tpl tiki-gmap_locator.php): [NEW] Add new ajax version using the new wikiplugin [03:03] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [03:13] *** iogburu has left [03:50] *** hobu has joined #tikiwiki [04:23] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Quit: MartinCleaver) [04:46] *** logist has joined #tikiwiki [04:48] !help [04:48] You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [04:59] *** JP|NPU-T has joined #tikiwiki [05:02] *** JP|NPU- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [05:28] *** kerin has joined #tikiwiki [05:29] is there a way to change edit locks from 24 minutes other than by editing the source? [05:51] *** mvalviar has joined #tikiwiki [05:52] Hi! Anyone willing to help? [05:52] if i can, man. [05:52] but i'm not all that great at ILLEGAL STREET FIGHTING. [05:52] Great! I'm trying to install it in gatorhost. [05:53] i don't have root/sudo access [05:53] https://securerivers.com/support/wiki2/tiki-install.php [05:53] don't forsee that being an issue [05:53] I extracted everything as it is. [05:54] your file perms aren't set properly [05:54] initially that page is 500. Per the manual I ran setup.sh [05:54] and thats what I got [05:54] 500 what? chmod 500 or server error 500 or what [05:54] tiki-install.php is 644 [05:55] server error 500 [05:55] what version of tiki is this, 4.1? [05:56] the latest one [05:56] should I fall back to the LTS? [05:56] i doubt the issue is related to the version [05:57] I'm just following the steps outlined in the manual [05:57] you have some variety of shell access, right? [05:57] as in [05:58] it says if I encounter the error 500 page I should run setup.sh script. Which I did. [05:58] ssh [05:58] an actual shell, not some ghetto PHP exec shell [05:58] ah [05:58] I have a remote shell [05:59] ok, so what i suggest you do is [05:59] ls -l tiki-install is -rw-r--r-- [05:59] from the tikiwiki directory [05:59] chown -R www-data * [05:59] actually hell, that may not be helpful without root [05:59] apache is run as nobody [06:00] and yes i'm not root [06:00] run as nobody? what? [06:00] i dont have www-data this is centOS and its nobody [06:01] anyways I can't do that since I'm not root [06:02] When I did run sh setup.sh there are alot of errors [06:02] ...that's probably related [06:04] what should I do then? [06:05] The thing is I was able to install it on my local machine without sudo/rott [06:05] given that i have no idea what the errors were, your guess is probably better than mine [06:05] root* [06:05] but i will say this [06:05] you have hostgator? they have fantastico > you can set it up through there if you're desperate and don't mind being a couple versions behind [06:06] Ok let my try that [06:06] for the record though i had hostgator for a while and left because my SQL databases kept mysteriously getting corrupted [06:07] literally each one would get screwed 1-3 times a year, on a low-traffic site [06:07] The thing is, I was able to install this locally w/o root/sudo [06:07] i heard you last time [06:08] but i still don't know anything meaningful about your setup, i don't know what the errors were, and when i asked you what version you used you said "the latest" which is also exceptionally vague since i don't know what version you think is latest or when you downloaded it :p [06:08] I didn't encouter the error 500 page. I just followed the manual and it's smooth sailing [06:09] it's nothing personal, man, i just don't have anything to work with here. and i kind of needed to be asleep fifteen minutes ago. [06:09] if it's any consolation the channel's usually way busier on weeknights. [06:09] *** kerin has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [06:29] *** mvalviar has left [06:31] *** luminoso has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [06:55] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r25459 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] More refinements of the new Google maps wikiplugin [07:09] *** btiffin has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:19] Good morning tikiverse [08:28] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r25460 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googlemap.php: [ENH] Allow showing of list of markers for objects from objectarray [08:29] *** nkoth has quit IRC (Quit: nkoth) [09:00] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [09:39] *** franck has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [09:47] polom polom [09:54] toctoc [10:14] this is ridiculous [10:14] i have been on this several hours [10:15] if you have restricted view globally by default and allow view something by perms in category as long as you have the object in one category all is well [10:15] but if you add another category which doesn't have the same perms (to allow view), it gets not displayed :-/ [10:17] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [10:18] grmbl ! so how I can have Public category and News > Europe at the same time ? [10:18] i don't want to give view perms to News > Europe if the item shouldn't be published yet [10:20] News > Europe should be just localization category [10:22] do i need to work it around, allow global view perms to anonymous and create Non-public category instead which i will need to assign to everything i don't want to be accessed ? [10:23] that would be tough [10:23] or can i work only with open/pending/close status here with tracker items ? [10:24] phew, at least i figured out what was the problem :-| [10:26] :-) [10:26] somewaht similar tricky things: I managed with o/p/c status, fyi [10:27] yeah, i think it is my last resort :-( [10:30] imho the categorization should have an AND / OR option [10:32] *** goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki [10:33] well, i can do this o/p/c workaround with tracker items but what about other objects ? like wiki pages, articles, etc. ? :-\ [10:34] (talking about trunk btw) [10:36] (wow, google translator doesn't know translation for word "tracker" :-p) [10:37] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [10:37] *** goj|ghost is now known as goj [10:37] :-) [10:37] tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r25461 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-sheets.tpl tiki-sheets.php): [FIX]Fix bug for users with local perm to admin a sheet but not full admin (re: bug1920 ). Thanks space_egd for reporting the fix. [10:37] +1 for AND/OR on categ [10:43] tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r25462 10/branches/proposals/4.x/ (templates/tiki-sheets.tpl tiki-sheets.php): [FIX][bp/r25461]Fix bug for users with local perm to admin a sheet but not full admin (re: bug1920 ). Thanks space_egd for reporting the fix. [10:43] tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r25463 10/branches/proposals/3.x/ (templates/tiki-sheets.tpl tiki-sheets.php): [FIX][bp/r25461]Fix bug for users with local perm to admin a sheet but not full admin (re: bug1920 ). Thanks space_egd for reporting the fix. [10:43] xavi: is there export/import for OOo calc planned ? [10:44] or csv ? [10:45] ? [10:45] where? [10:45] oh man, world would be much easier if trackers had history like wiki pages ;) [10:45] in tikisheet [10:48] :-) [10:48] *** JP|NPU- has joined #tikiwiki [10:49] "planned"???? it's added since tiki 1.10 (I payed for that years ago and it works perfect) [10:49] csv import [10:49] :-) [10:50] ah :) [10:50] and export i suppose too :-p [10:50] however, there are unfinished stuff in that drop down (for sheet import), and that's why (I guess) people get confused with 0.1-dev type of formats [10:50] yes :-) [10:51] and export to wiki page table ? ;) [10:51] and luciash, since spreadsheets in Tiki5 allow parsing... [10:51] hello: can i set email as login and define an additional nickname to be displayed [10:52] export to wiki table: not direct. Hand made through csv -> and edit by hand on ascii editor [10:52] coaboa: yes, using user data tracker [10:52] >doctwo User+Tracker [10:52] http://doc.tikiwiki.org/User+Tracker [10:52] *** JP|NPU-T has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [10:53] xavi: what did you want finish with "and luciash, since ..." ? [10:53] so, luciash, since spreadsheets in Tiki5 allow parsing... and PluginR (since yesterday ;-) ) allows creating graphs.... we will soon be able to produce *any* graph from data in spreadsheets.... See R gallery: [10:53] * xavi searching for the url for luciash [10:54] heh, but you need the damn R on the server ;) [10:54] yes, whoever need real graphs for any type scientific reports... R is the easy way to go [10:55] so no option for common hostings :-/ [10:55] http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/ [10:55] yes, for common hostings, probably, the graphs from jquery.sheet might do... [10:55] once they are implemented in Tiki, if not yet [10:56] yep [10:56] that i see as an option [10:56] and if & where graphs from builtin graph engine in Tiki are not enough (4 types of graphs already) [10:57] or... (just made a quick search): http://www.filamentgroup.com/lab/jquery_visualize_plugin_accessible_charts_graphs_from_tables_html5_canvas/ [10:58] but that's beyond my skills (jquery world) [11:01] wohooo, this jQuery Visualize Plugin looks impressive for real time graphs! (way much better than the - currentl - buggy graph engine which came with spreadsheet from earlier versions of tiki... [11:01] requires html5 canvas ? [11:02] what's that? [11:02] reading that from url ;) [11:02] i mean, does it work in IE7+ ? [11:03] I guess so. it says: "...this plugin is fairly feature-complete and works well across the major browsers..." [11:03] grrrr, i cannot workaround the categorization perms issue with o/p/c either :( [11:06] jquery.sheet also allows some graphs already: http://www.visop-dev.com/uploads/3/1/3/8/313814/jquery.sheet.html (clicking on "charts" in the spreadhseet title). However, I woner how easy are they to generate for the end user... [11:07] jQuery Visualize Plugin seems very user friendly, at least [11:13] damn, i am lost again with the perms :( [11:17] but when using email as login author information and logged in displays the email? applied user+tracker profiel. what do i miss to add nickname diplayed instead of login-name? [11:19] use "Use real name to display", you can display the nick only at several places [11:20] i misunderstood where you want it to display but i suppose now you want it on all user links [11:21] so if you will use the real name, your users could fill their nick or whatever there [11:22] when loged in as carsten@yx.com editing a page should not disclose my email. instead ther should apear a nick/realname instead - looking@ "use real names for display" [11:23] tiki-admin.php?page=community&cookietab=2 [11:23] "Show user's real name instead of login (when possible)" [11:23] thx. [11:25] don't forget to clear tiki cache [11:27] so i suppose i have to give global perm to view closed items [11:27] * luciash hopes it will work properly [11:32] f**k, it needs tiki_p_view_trackers_closed *and* tiki_p_view_trackers if i want view closed items :( [11:33] *** yohomer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:33] why is not tiki_p_view_trackers_closed enough ??? [11:33] now i have to change all open items to pending :( [11:34] and set default status for new items to pending too [11:34] well, luckily this is possible [11:34] at least [11:34] not that many items there yet [11:41] is there a tracker language selector comparable to the country selector? [11:50] *** Sug4r has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [11:50] *** GillesM has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [11:52] *** GillesM has joined #tikiwiki [11:52] *** Sug4r has joined #tikiwiki [11:56] *** luminoso has joined #tikiwiki [12:02] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie [12:10] *** luminoso has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [12:11] *** Skyrider has joined #tikiwiki [12:11] *** Skyrider is now known as Guest59768 [12:21] *** stix has joined #tikiwiki [12:21] *** luminoso has joined #tikiwiki [12:28] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [12:38] *** GillesM has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:38] sylvieg around? [12:39] I can't figure out how to make contribution.php display in a spreadsheet when jquery.sheet is on [12:40] or luciash, maybe you know? ^ [12:43] how can I add: [12:43] include_once ('contribution.php'); [12:43] from a jquery code section? [13:01] mmm, I can make it display (eve if not in the right place). However, selection of type of contributions are not saved when using jquery.sheet (only thorugh the non jquery UI) [13:05] tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r25464 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-view-sheets.tpl tiki-view_sheets.php): [FIX]Type of contribution field is nowadays shown also when jquery.sheet is on, but user selections at that field are not saved yet when through jquery interface. Help is needed ( jonnyb ?, sylvieg ? ... ) [13:17] tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r25465 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/r/: [FIX]Remove unused (any more) empty folder [13:24] xavi: sorry, i got my own trouble here ;) [13:25] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [13:26] no problem, luciash. I reached a point where jonny AND/OR sylvieg will be the best ones to knows how to enhance [13:27] yup yup [13:30] *** coaboa_ has joined #tikiwiki [13:32] When I click "view calendars" in tiki 4.1, I am presented with a blank page - why is that? [13:35] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [13:36] *** logist has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [13:39] It's described here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=3009 [13:39] anyone with the same problem? [13:48] *** btiffin has joined #tikiwiki [14:00] stix : click referesh page [14:00] FrankP_german2: yes nothing happens [14:08] Tikiwiki 4.1 : right modul column disabled [14:08] in tiki-view_articles.php show this column [14:08] http://simutrans-germany.com/wiki/wiki_/tiki-view_articles.php [14:25] I am not sure I understand that? [14:26] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3049 - - Catorphans plugin does not handle page titles with a comma in them ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3049 [14:33] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [14:34] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [14:46] anybody knows in trunk how to have multilingual on but disable asking me to select language each time i edit new page ? i want to have no language set for some pages (multilanguage pages) [14:47] hi luciash - i was wondering that a while back too... [14:47] i think it was added non-optionally [14:47] it's also annoying because when i save with language selected it doesn't seem to be possible to get rid of it later then (tha language sticks and i cannot make it no language later then) [14:47] jonnyb: hi :) [14:47] :) [14:48] seems someone broke our 3Rules then ;) [14:48] yes, there was a huge bunch of multilingual stuff arrived a week or two ago - didn't look great (i rolled some of the worse bits back) [14:51] ah [14:51] thank you then :) [14:51] i suppose it were some of alain's :-/ [14:52] ... [14:52] fair would be at least to have a "Multilingual" option to select from [14:52] hi jonnyb :-) can you read the irc log? [14:52] hi xavi [14:53] bbl (luch time here) - greatings from Gloria [14:53] xavi: enjoy your late lunch [14:53] it's lunch time all day there, isn't it? [14:53] :) [14:53] irc logs on the website somewhere? [14:54] jonnyb: i suppose xavi means irc.tw.o [14:54] irc.tikiwiki.org search for today, and search for jonnyb :-) [14:54] for today? - ah, ok - on it... [14:54] xavi: the bit about contributions? [14:57] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [14:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [14:57] polom [14:57] hi chibaguy [14:57] * chibaguy emerges from several days of intense MS Word self-punishment.... [14:58] hi jonnyb [14:58] did you get anywhere with that jquery.ui based tiki theme you were playing with? [14:58] ah - Word punishment may already answer that! [14:58] I got a start. [14:59] * jonnyb knows the feeling [14:59] I have a kind of basic css file that I started with, no styling really, just placeholders. [14:59] jonnyb: ah, seeems i can override with tiki-editpage.php?page=profile&need_lang=n [14:59] manually ;) [14:59] i was thinking i'd like at make the remark boxes ui'fied [14:59] hey chibaguy ! [15:00] luciash: should be fairly easy to add an option then [15:00] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Quit: MartinCleaver) [15:00] I started with module boxes, tiki-top bar, etc. I'll get the files up for a demo today or tomorrow. [15:00] hi luciash :-) [15:00] nice :) [15:00] you guys following the olympics much? [15:00] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [15:00] chibaguy: nope [15:00] (sorry for off topic) [15:00] and any ideas/plan for adding more theme to tiki 5? we should freeze fairly soon, i guess... [15:01] ideas are, plans fail [15:01] and english woman just won something (first GB gold for 30+ years) [15:01] and/an [15:01] wow [15:02] 30+ then :) [15:02] +30 [15:02] *g* [15:02] I wanted to check a few mods.tw.o themes that are licensed ok, and I think the jquery ui themes can go in, at least a start on them. and maybe another thing or two. [15:03] This week I should have time to get caught up on those. [15:03] the more the better i think! [15:03] :) [15:03] I'd like to get the sumo-look theme in. [15:04] makes sense [15:04] kind of parting gesture [15:04] or something [15:04] nice to have something to show for it, indeed [15:04] visible, to go with the upstreamed backend parts. [15:05] exacto [15:08] *** JP|NPU- has quit IRC (Quit: サーバー坊やは寝てしまいました|(-o-)ノZzz... 誰か起こしてあげてくださいです(>_<;)) [15:08] one thing to do regarding the jquery ui theme is switching the way tiki's tabs get their css classes. sept7 said we should switch the classes in the smarty code. [15:08] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r25466 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl tiki-adminusers.php): [MOD]user: can also inport real name [15:09] i had a look at jquery.ui.tabs - very nice, would be nice to switch over to them entirely (instead of tiki tabs), but that's for 6 i think [15:09] I can get the tab look if I hardcode the css classes, but I don't know how to do it the right way. If you guys could help out on that, it'd be great. I'll put the details together, to show what the missing step is. [15:09] *** kiilo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [15:09] http://jqueryui.com/demos/tabs/ [15:10] *** JP|NPU-T has joined #tikiwiki [15:10] yeah, I could achieve that look by remapping the jquery graphics to tiki's tab css classes, but is a backward way to do the job. [15:11] i agree [15:11] and jquery.ui isn't on by default in 5 [15:12] right. [15:21] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Quit: MartinCleaver) [15:32] *** olinuxx has joined #tikiwiki [15:41] back [15:41] off again and back in 1 min from another computer [15:41] *** xavi has left [15:46] chibaguy: if touched u the milkyway theme bit. Removed jpg artefacts, smooth connection between footer & borderl/r and some more. if yu want I can mail you those and yo can decide if you want zo use them for the theme. [15:46] *up [15:47] *** coaboa_ is now known as coaboa [15:49] hi coaboa, thanks, you could mail them to gary at tikiwiki.org. [15:49] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [15:49] Why does it say "WARNING: Plugin disabled CATEGORY!" when it is ebabled? [15:50] back [15:50] hi chibaguy :-) [15:50] hi xavi [15:50] it says on the plugin page "You need to set Category" which is a link, but a blank page appears when I click it [15:51] jonnyb, before I meant 2 things: (1) contribution with jquery.sheet. I couldn't manage to make it work myself (just to show up) [15:52] (2) that other jquery plugin to visualize data and produce graphs in real time from an html table [15:52] xavi: i saw your commit - re (1) - will get to it eventually [15:53] (2) will get to it even later [15:53] ok, thanks jquerybradley :-) [15:53] have just found my multi-tiki site is all messed up (server config i think) so am diverted to that for a while... [15:54] ah, ok (thanks for taking care also of multitiki) [15:55] i was thinking of upgrading it to trunk, but it's so messed up in 4.x i need to fix that first... :( [15:55] chibaguy, did you write anywhere how to use jquery carousel plugin? [15:55] stix, I haven't used that particular plugin. Usually I find the messages to be accurate. Could there be a cache problem (about enabled/not enabled)? About the blank page, could be a not enough memory problem? Or check for errors. [15:56] ah, yeah, I did, xavi. http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Infinite_carousel [15:57] great! thanks Gary :-) [15:57] I'm not sure what the procedure will be in tiki 5 though. [15:57] should be easier of course [15:57] i added the lib to trunk, so there's a checkbox for it [15:57] yes, I saw the checkbox, jonnyb, and the link to the doc page [15:57] i have my efforts for using it in filegals saved half finished [15:57] but that section is missing in the doc [15:58] no proper implementation yet, i'm afraid... [15:58] I?ll write it once I learn how to use it :-) [15:58] can add it half finished if anyone else would be able to help? [15:58] jonnyb, help on? (I can help on testing and documentating, not coding sorry) [15:59] chibaguy: but what is the point of this "You need to set Category" - why can't the plugin just be enabled when it is checked? [15:59] s/documentating/documenting (spanglish) [15:59] coding i'm afraid [15:59] oups, sorry, then, not me [15:59] :) [15:59] might be one for Lindon, actually... [15:59] I am still scared of what I saw in tiki-sheets* with jquery.sheet and not finding my way to get the contribution to work [16:00] sure, tiki can be a scary place! [16:00] :-) [16:00] stix, I haven't looked at the plugin so don't really know the reasons. But things in Tiki are finely grained to give lots of freedom of choice - a good thing and a bother at times too. [16:03] chibaguy: but this needs to be done on all the plugins, you must have seen it before [16:03] It links to tiki-admin.php?lm_criteria=Category [16:03] which is blank [16:04] I guess I'm not sure what message you mean, then. [16:05] admin -> editing and plugins -> plugins tab: there are text "You need to set Articles" "You need to set Categories" etc. [16:05] what does it mean? [16:06] it is like a variable, that needs to be set, I can't just enable the plugins [16:07] Very preliminary 'Jqui' theme and options at http://zukakakina.com/trunk/tiki-index.php. 'Trontastic' is the farthest along, of the options. [16:07] Please give suggestions. ;-) [16:08] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3050 - - RSS feeds do not take user name and password into account - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3050 [16:20] anybody else knows what this is: admin -> editing and plugins -> plugins tab: there are text "You need to set Articles" "You need to set Categories" etc. ? [16:20] chibaguy: looks most promising! [16:22] the module boxes and a few other things can be based on the jquery ui graphics pretty easily, getting ideas from the themeroller page. then how to extend the design to page background and so on is the question, which is fun too. [16:22] ..or maybe knows how to "manually" enable the category plugin? [16:23] stix, do those messages mean you have to turn on the feature? (wondering what 'set' means here) [16:24] I don't know, because I can check the "enabled" box, but my wiki's say: WARNING: Plugin disabled CATEGORY! [16:24] like it hasn't been enabled [16:27] well, to test, I see that the plugin "Attachments" is showing that message, so I clicked the link and got to a page where I need to activate attachments for wiki pages. So it seems to make sense in this test. [16:28] (if this is the case, maybe "set" should be "activate" in the translation string. [16:29] hmm, will try it [16:30] some of the messages aren't literally accurate. the one for "copyright" plugin says you need to set Wiki, but actually you need to turn on the copyright option on the wiki admin page, I imagine. [16:31] so be a little forgiving. ;-) [16:38] *** hobu has left [16:38] chibaguy, do you know if geshi is installed in themes.tw.o? [16:39] I wanted to provide css highligting on the infinite carousel, but can't make it work (so probably it isn't installed yet there) [16:41] changi & mose : can we install geshi in doc.tw.o? [16:42] it was installed when doc.tw.o was in marc's server [16:42] but it seems missing in current server [16:42] at least, according at the output from: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginCode [16:44] and changi & mose : could we have the memory_limit for doc.tw.o temporarily risen to something higher than nowadays, so that we can print the full structure from http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Documentation ? [16:45] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [16:46] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25467 10/trunk/tiki-webmail_ajax.php: [FIX] Missing global (used in webmail-inbox module) [16:46] xavi, sorry, was away. not installed as far as I know. [16:46] chibaguy: about your request of feedback for Jqui:... [16:46] ok, chibaguy. who can install? [16:47] a pity that things are not done, and those who would volunteer to do, don't have access to the server [16:47] :-/ [16:47] server/s [16:48] I'm not sure what the present status is of themes.tw.o. It was going to be moved soon, I thought. [16:48] chibaguy: Jqui: sorry, I can't seem to get the difference from the end user point of view. [16:48] New Forum Posts: TIki 4 TAB functions not working - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36410 [16:48] ah, yeah, xavi, I see 2 of the 3 options are almost the same so far. ;-) [16:48] moved: that wouldn't solve my concerns (but even get them worse, I'm afraid) [16:49] chibaguy: well, yes, trontastic looks different, you are right :-) [16:50] I'll make more styling differences, then of course after they are committed anyone can have a go at improving, etc. [16:51] Well, I would suggest (again) that at least one of the new themes in tiki5 includes an easy way (for end users) to add an horizontal image under the header. such as in: http://startbigthinksmall.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/beautyofcode-jquery-plugin-for-syntax-highlighter-2-0-by-alex-gorbatchev/ [16:52] that simple enhancement (from the technological point of view, I guess) would open the door to nicer look of most themes in tiki... [16:52] ... when some good pic is added under the header or top zone, like most good-looking blogs do [16:52] imho [16:53] Anyone else getting "Forbidden, You don't have permission to access /tiki-view_forum_thread.php on this server." at tw.o? [16:53] and btw, chibaguy, jonnyb, and others, we could avoid using geshi (which has incompatible license with lgpl) if we had something like this "beautyOfCode" jquery plugin added for syntax highlighting in tiki5... [16:54] xavi, my basic opinion is that should be possible in many/most/all themes using the custom code textarea. I don't really think it should be theme-specific. [16:55] (about the images in the site header) [16:55] yes, even better if generic improvment, of course (+1) [16:55] but it would be good to figure out 'best practice' for it. [16:55] I don't know how to do that myself [16:55] I would have done that already months ago, If I knew how [16:56] i have had a couple of ideas tumbling around in my head but no time to experiment yet. [16:56] about syntax highlighters: http://www.webresourcesdepot.com/11-syntax-highlighters-to-beautify-code-presentation/ : a few of them are jquery plugins [16:58] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r25468 10/trunk/lib/prefs/site.php: [FIX] Add dynamic pref description [16:58] what about a div with a default "header (banner) module" (as in tikipedia theme) loaded with an invisible preconfigured module for background customization... [17:00] chibaguy: I get to http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=36400&topics_offset=1&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=1 fine [17:01] stix: presumably anyone without the calendar extension has the same issue. [17:01] I should have been more specific. I was trying to post, and got the error. [17:03] chibaguy: on which URL? http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php works for me [17:04] chibaguy: your error sounds like something everyone should be getting [17:04] works -> give me a Tiki page, not an HTTP error [17:05] coaboa, if you know how to do that... [17:06] I try to post and get this url: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php#comments, and the forbidden error. It's happened to me twice (different threads) in the last few hours. [17:06] chibaguy, it's funny, I had the same issue yesterday on one of my servers, when attempting to save a spreadsheet simple edition [17:07] chibaguy: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php#comments "works" for me (I get a no thread indicated, as expected) [17:07] and tiki-sheets*.php has read perms on the server... [17:07] chealer, a lot of people have been posting (or shoutboxing) about problems trying to post at tw.o forums, but I haven't had any trouble til now. [17:07] chibaguy: is that different for you, if you just go to that URL [17:07] chibaguy and chealer, ohertel should check mod security new rule set [17:08] chibaguy: right. there have been issue with an unset POST variable I believe [17:08] chealer, if i paste the url into a new tab, I get the site and "no thread indicated". [17:08] that might be the reason (the sysadmin in that server where I had a similar issue): they are also using mod security (besides suhosin), and that might be the link [17:08] just a guess [17:08] but trying to post, i get the error, plus that url. [17:09] xavi: I'm not sure what you mean. ohertel said he was going to test mod-security stuff on tw.o? [17:09] chibaguy: OK. does that seem to happen everytime? [17:10] nope, chealer, he said he had changed the rule set for the mod sercurity on tw.o server [17:10] a few days ago [17:10] xavi: OK. I don't know mod-security, but thanks, it does sound possibly related [17:11] I haven't tried posting at tw.o for a few days, but it happened 2 out of 2 times today. [17:11] No problem before. [17:11] yes, it seems tricky (that was he source of the problems to use profiles.tw.o, for instance, from that server of mine), fyi [17:12] *** olinuxx has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) [17:12] I'll send a message to tag (and cc to noc@tw.o , just discovered that this noc thingy existed), so that ohertel (and other "official" sys admins) can have a look [17:13] chibaguy: posting a new thread or a reply? [17:14] reply [17:14] chibaguy: worked for me [17:14] 1 test [17:15] chibaguy: I replied to http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=36400&topics_offset=1&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=1 [17:15] (and deleted the reply) [17:16] Ok, I tried replying here: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36410 and got the error. [17:17] I could also post at the url you tried. [17:18] a problem with the urls? [17:18] chibaguy: worked for me [17:18] dang [17:18] chibaguy: note that after posting, I get to http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36410&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_asc#comments [17:18] not just http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php#comments [17:18] chibaguy: are you in the Admins group on tw.o? [17:19] yeah [17:19] chibaguy: which browser? [17:19] opera [17:19] chibaguy: I'm on iceweasel 3.5 (Firefox-based) [17:22] Ok, works for me in firefox 3.5. :-/ [17:23] but not opera 10.10 [17:26] chibaguy: so it looks like Opera doesn't go to the same URL as Firefox. lacks some URL parameters [17:26] apparently so. [17:26] thanks for checking. I'm going to sleep now. [17:26] chibaguy: my pleasure. good night. [17:27] good night. [17:27] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Quit: Find new themes for Tiki at http://themes.tikiwiki.org.) [17:28] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r25469 10/trunk/lib/prefs/ (directory.php freetags.php mail.php smarty.php): [FIX] Dynamic prefs. Remove a few empty ones and add one name [17:41] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25470 10/third_party/jquery/jquery.sheet/jquery.sheet.js: [FIX] Only warn about lost changes if there have been some (TODO in 3rd party project) [17:43] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25471 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FXI] jquery.sheet help sheets now load [17:52] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r25472 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] Dynamic pref description [17:54] tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r25473 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_dbreport.php: [FIX] Only partial fix: unset needed to be added after deprecated "=& new" was changed to "= new" in r19072. Permission check was also failing. Still doesn't work with PDO, but at least no fatal error. [18:01] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25474 10/trunk/installer/tiki-installer.php: [18:01] tikiwiki: [FIX] Add mordernisations from smarty_setup.php to installer smarty class. E.g. use realpath() and TIKI_SMARTY_DIR for better cross-platform behaviour. [18:01] tikiwiki: Needs testing (please) [18:04] *** Cain` has joined #tikiwiki [18:05] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [18:06] *** Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:06] *** Cain` is now known as Cain [18:09] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [18:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [18:17] *** xavi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:23] polom [18:24] * marclaporte is having issues with phplayersmenu in trunk, but cssmenu is fine [18:24] hi marclaporte [18:27] jonnyb : you rock with jquerysheet! [18:28] thanks - they're fun! :) [18:30] I have a big demo in one week, for a corporate Intranet [18:31] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25475 10/trunk/templates/prefs/ (7 files): [FIX] Smarty notices (prefs) [18:32] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25476 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-admin.tpl tiki-admin.php): [FIX] Smarty notices (admin) [18:33] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25477 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Smarty notices (admin/general) [18:34] I hope to show the new spreadsheet at the demo [18:34] splendid [18:35] let me know any LHF that can make it more exciting! [18:38] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Quit: MartinCleaver) [18:41] we are getting some IE7 oddness for table creation. But we'll avoid IE7 during the demo :-) [18:41] *** GillesM has joined #tikiwiki [19:01] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [19:05] *** grobda24 has joined #tikiwiki [19:05] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [19:08] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Quit: MartinCleaver) [19:14] Firefox 3.5.8 on Windows: bold tool is being weird (asking to leave page) [19:20] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25478 10/trunk/templates/prefs/ (7 files): [MOD] Rollback of r25475 - better fix for notices to come next [19:21] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25479 10/trunk/lib/prefslib.php: [FIX] Add defaults for all prefs - fixes multiple notices at source. [19:23] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25480 10/trunk/lib/prefs/ (fgal.php w.php wiki.php): [FIX] All prefs, including radio buttons, need name param (still causes smarty notice if missing) [19:23] *** chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:25] marclaporte: looks like all tools are causing reload - checking... [19:33] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [19:40] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25481 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [19:40] tikiwiki: [FIX] "Custom" getElementById() function needs to return element by name if not by id. [19:40] tikiwiki: Fixes toolbars again for now, but really all textareas using them should use id always (TODO). [19:57] Hi guys. I found an error in the danish translation of "Created by admin. Last Modification..." - where can I edit that? [19:58] lang/fr/language.php is for French [19:58] oki [19:59] can you share back the fix? [20:00] sure, what should I do with the file after it is finished? [20:01] http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Commit [20:01] oki, will do [20:01] tks [20:01] We have an informal contest about translations [20:02] French is most complete translation at the moment [20:03] Looking forward to getting beat :-) [20:04] oh okay :) [20:04] I can see that the danish lacks a lot [20:06] #18 [20:06] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3051 - - Show category objects does not create correct SEFURLs for file ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3051 [20:07] stix : so I guess it was time for you to arrive :-) [20:07] yes I guess so :) [20:10] stix: maybe you missed that... [20:10] [21/02/10 12:01:08] stix: presumably anyone without the calendar extension has the same issue. [20:11] chealer: yes I think I did, thank you. Do I need to install some kind of extension? [20:15] stix: you usually don't, but it depends on your setup. how you installed PHP. [20:15] okay, it is installed via the ports collection on a freebsd system [20:15] some kind of extension I need for php? [20:15] bbl [20:16] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:19] *** syla has joined #tikiwiki [20:20] polom polom [20:20] hi [20:20] hi [20:20] hi syla [20:21] wo bin ich gelandet [20:23] tikiwiki support. Das ist ein cms system [20:23] was heist das so genau [20:24] cms -> Content Management System [20:25] aha danke [20:25] tikiwiki.org -> mehr Information. [20:30] *** syla has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [20:38] The plugins, are they different files somewhere? [20:43] lib/wiki-plugins/ [20:44] in Tiki, plugins have different meaning than in most software (not good I know) [20:47] some reading: http://tikiwiki.org/model [20:49] does somebody know how to use the {MOUSOVER} plugin with an image? [20:51] popup should appear if mouse goes over the icon. [20:51] thank you marclaporte [20:52] marclaporte: I found this: in /templates/tiki-forums.tpl. "Search by name" is translated in the language-file, but it is not translated when I view the site. Do you know why? [20:53] coaboa : I think there is now a way to have mouseover with {IMG} syntax [20:53] ok. will put a line text beneath the icon ;-) thx [20:54] if you just translated, try clearing your cache tiki-admin_system.php [20:54] oki, will do [20:54] *** kiilo has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [20:55] *** daniam has joined #tikiwiki [20:55] which one should i use: fancy table or split? [20:56] marclaporte: it did the trick, thank you :) [20:57] if you have a lot of content, Split (it permits to include tables, etc) [20:57] you can also setup section edit with Pluginsplit [20:57] ok. thx [20:58] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [21:15] Can't I use this: "{if $user eq "admin"}" on a wiki? [21:15] yes [21:16] in templates, not in content [21:16] hmm templates [21:16] http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Template+Tricks [21:16] I only need it on one page [21:16] http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Advanced+Wiki+Syntax+usage+examples [21:19] http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginGroup -> this should be OK for you [21:19] yes I just found that also :) [21:20] stix: wikiplugin SMARTY in trunk (next Tiki 5.x) [21:20] PluginPerm is even better but was never added to core (which is a great idea!) [21:20] hmm okay [21:30] *** Guest59768 has quit IRC (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) [21:37] *** philback has joined #tikiwiki [21:38] I have upgraded a 2.2 site to 3.4 and cannot find the tiki-admin_include_plugins.php file in there, even if it is advertised as a feature of 3.x [21:38] Do I need 4.x to have these? The 3.4 tag in SVN hasn't the file in it either. [21:39] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [21:41] the file is included by tiki-admin.php but doesn't seems to exist, in 3.x or 4.1, even trunk. [21:42] look for tiki-plugins.php [21:44] the admin page loads the afore mentioned file [21:44] I'll check [21:44] With that, I do get a "Plugin Approval" page, not an aliases page [21:45] I am looking inside the SVN repository right now. [21:45] but do not find that. Is it in some mod? [21:48] admin -> plugins & text editing ( [21:48] I am now looking t [21:49] yes, I did that and the tab is empty as well. Even if the code shows something with grep alias *.php [21:49] it's called text area [21:49] any feature to enable? [21:50] tiki-admin.php?page=textarea is where I am [21:50] May it be because I am using Chrome? [21:51] look at 3rd tab [21:52] well, chrome on winXP doesn't shows it. It works in IE. [21:52] Sorry for the trouble. [21:52] *** jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: I am going outside... I may be some time...) [21:52] Damn, I am looking for this since about an hour :-) [21:52] hehe [21:52] no prob [21:52] Safari may have the same issue. [21:53] all WebKit [21:53] this errors by tikiwiki 5 : SVN trunk 25481 [21:53] Warning: preg_match_all() [function.preg-match-all]: Compilation failed: missing ) at offset 14995 in /var/www/vhosts/simutrans-germany.com/httpdocs/wiki/wiki_5/lib/smarty/libs/Smarty_Compiler.class.php on line 1162 [21:53] Fatal error: Smarty error: [in tiki-install.tpl line 5]: syntax error: 'if' statement requires arguments (Smarty_Compiler.class.php, line 1169) in /var/www/vhosts/simutrans-germany.com/httpdocs/wiki/wiki_5/lib/smarty/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1090 [21:53] While I am at it, is there any strasa fixed width for the 3.4 ? [21:54] via profiles, yes [21:55] clunky but works [21:56] I moved to 3.4 as an interim step to 4.x [21:56] Thanks for the help marc. [21:57] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:57] any idea if i can call tiki-index_raw.php using ajax into the colorbox frame ? [21:57] http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/site_width_3x [22:00] *** rpg has joined #tikiwiki [22:00] Is there any way to subscribe all registered users to a specific "announcements" wiki page? [22:01] btw, for what is the raw mode wiki used ? → ./changelog.txt:66956:* [NEW] Raw mode navigation added to the wiki, you can use tiki-index_raw.php [22:01] thx [22:01] rpg: i think enable wiki group watch on that page [22:02] Great, the alias works (with some clicks to enable everything!) [22:03] Is there anything like {rss id=x} that does render like a list of podcasts, including the player? [22:03] Sorry, my mistake [22:03] Just wanted to have something better than a bare list: http://philippeback.eu/tiki-index.php?page=PodcastsPage [22:04] luciash: Sorry to be dense, but how do I get at that? [22:05] I changed img/wiki and img/wiki_up to ../wiki_img/..., this not work [22:06] luciash: Our install may not be fully up-to-date.... [22:06] rpg: enable group watch feature [22:07] luciash: right, but on what admin page? [22:07] >doctwo Group+Watch [22:07] http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Group+Watch [22:08] rpg: Admin > Features [22:15] OK, this seems to be my day for stupid questions: as a user how do you find out what version is running? [22:16] rpg: changelog.txt [22:17] luciash: as a user? [22:17] yes [22:17] yoursitename/changelog.txt [22:17] I.e., I'm looking at my Tiki site, shouldn't there be an "About tikiwiki" link somewhere? [22:18] OK, that explains why there are no group watches; this is an antique. I'll pester the sysadmin. [22:18] ah [22:18] :) [22:19] ah, the fixed width profile and a custom menu aren't too friendly. It all misplaced due to the left: 100% in .horbar class [22:20] Thanks! [22:23] Seriously, wouldn't it be a good idea to have and "about TikiWiki" menu item to provide versioning information, etc.? [22:23] changing to margin: 0 0 0 -100%; put the menu with the proper alignment! [22:32] *** stix has quit IRC (Quit: stix) [22:35] rpg: i think it is up to the admin if he/she wants to disclose that information to users [22:36] luciash: I suppose, but wouldn't an enabled or disabled feature in the tiki be more reliable than having the changelog be visible by default? [22:37] luciash: that seems like it doesn't provide an obvious config hook for the admin, doesn't provide an obvious source of information to the user, etc., so an inferior choice.... [22:38] well, he can always remove that file [22:39] and he can see the version in Admin → General [22:56] luciash: right, but you have to know to remove the file, whereas if the file was supplied as a wiki page, or something, the configuration would be more obvious. [22:56] In general, security things like "remove your version information" seem to fail as much on this kind of human factors issue as anything else. [22:56] There's too much you have to stay on top of, and it's scattered around too fare. [22:56] s/fare/far/ [23:34] *** philback has quit IRC (Quit: A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well) [23:41] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r25482 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [NEW]MAIL: plugin to send direct email(not through tw message to either users, groups, realname user or others [23:41] cool sylvieg [23:41] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [23:54] :-) I think I have the good team collaboration site - trying to do the most generic.. [23:56] wil have probably to do pretty soon, memo the list of to to give the opportunity a user to send to 'his' group