#tikiwiki 2010-03-05,Fri

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luciash	chibaguy: any example ? chibaguy: of a site which needs CSS2 validation ?	[00:01]
chibaguy	sorry, luciash, example of what?	[00:02]
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chibaguy	Oh, I mean Tiki validates CSS2 now. But these border radius rules aren't CSS2 valid. Jqui theme is different because it has non-CSS2-valid stuff, so it should be easy to comment out or delete them.	[00:02]
luciash	i mean, if there is some practical reason to be CSS2 valid... i thought mostly the extra CSS3 specific enhancements are harmless and fallback nicely in browsers which do not support them	[00:03]
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chibaguy	Yes, I was just thinking for any site where CSS2 validation is required (could happen, I don't know). Anyway, some bytes are saved by not repeating those properties several times in the file.	[00:17]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r25918 10/trunk/styles/jqui.css: [FIX] rbox-title border radius was missed.	[00:31]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r25919 10/trunk/styles/jqui/options/trontastic.css: [FIX] Contrast problem.	[00:37]
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luciash	good job, gary, anyway	[00:42]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r25920 10/trunk/styles/jqui/options/trontastic.css: [FIX] Background image URLs.	[00:58]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r25921 10/trunk/styles/jqui/options/excitebike.css: [FIX] Tab color in wikitext, misc. other details.	[01:20]
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chealer	http://tikiwiki.org/stable.version could use an update for Tiki 3.5	[02:13]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r25922 10/branches/proposals/3.x/tiki-searchresults.php: [bp/r20557] [FIX] check for feature_search_fulltext instead of feature_search	[02:29]
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luciash	chibaguy: http://derivadow.com/2010/02/18/the-problem-with-breadcrumb-trails/ ;)	[03:03]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r25923 10/trunk/styles/jqui/options/excitebike.css: [ENH] Consolidation of border radius rules, for easier comment-out for a site that needs CSS2 validation.	[05:10]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r25924 10/trunk/styles/jqui/options/trontastic.css: [ENH] Consolidation of border radius rules, for easier comment-out for a site that needs CSS2 validation.	[05:16]
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chibaguy	luciash, interesting page about breadcrumbs.	[06:02]
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kishore	Hi	[07:39]
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coaboa	Hi @ all	[09:42]
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coaboa	short question: I have 4 images and want to display them @ same position. they should be swaped when clicking on link. eg. link1-> image1 will be changed to image2 when clicking on link 2. any hint?	[11:55]
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ricks99	use the flip js (already loaded with tiki as part of tiki-js.js). but each image in a unique <div> then use onclick event to flip both of them	[11:57]
coaboa	and without js? any chance?	[11:58]
ricks99	would have to reload the entire page each time afaik	[11:59]
coaboa	ok. thx. Do you knoe if the Ipad supports js, as it do not support java runtime? *know	[12:00]
ricks99	what is a lpad?	[12:01]
coaboa	The apple Ipad	[12:01]
ricks99	d'oh iPad :-)	[12:01]
coaboa	sorry	[12:01]
ricks99	not sure, but i would think so.	[12:01]
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coaboa	I do not know exacly what are the reqirements @ clientside are to execute js.	[12:02]
ricks99	js is supported in a all modern browsers afaik	[12:03]
coaboa	was'nt sure if js is a build in feature. thx	[12:06]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r25925 10/branches/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: Rolling back to 25608. Wrong branch, my bad.	[12:42]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r25926 10/branches/proposals/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [ENH]Added support for RESET button to Tracker forms. Backport of 25911 from Trunk	[12:45]
coaboa	Question: I have an arry of 3 * 5 icons. is it possible to reorder those icons automatically to eg. 5 * 3 correspinding to the window ratio and size like text would do when resizing the browser? Using split, div-align-center and mouseover on those icons. *array	[12:46]
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chibaguy	polom	[12:55]
jonnyb	poloms chibaguy and festers!	[12:56]
ricks99	hi chibaguy	[12:56]
jonnyb	what time's the 10 o'clock meeting?	[12:56]
coaboa	hi	[12:57]
chibaguy	hi guys, well I can tell you with confidense that it isn't at 8 am.	[12:57]
jonnyb	it's not usually at 10 either...	[12:57]
chibaguy	my internal clock is still adjusting, it seems. yeah, I don't know. Marc didn't get much sleep the night before last so said he may sleep in some this morning. coaboa, you could float the images to the left, then they'd arrange themselves according to the available space. not necessarily 3 x 5 and 5 x 3 though.	[12:57]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25927 10/trunk/templates/tiki-show_help.tpl: [FIX] Feature test	[13:00]
coaboa	{DIV (float=left)}?	[13:00]
chibaguy	Are the images in divs already? If so, that syntax looks right, but I'm not really sure without checking if works.	[13:04]
coaboa	tried it but doesnt work. the icons doesnt reorder and a bunch of lines (from SPLIT) appeared at bottom of page.	[13:14]
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chibaguy	You're using something like {DIV (float=left)}{img....}{DIV} for each image?	[13:18]
coaboa	yes because they all need an text line beneath (as mouseover doesnt work with images)	[13:21]
chibaguy	This is the syntax the wiki edit help says to use: {DIV(type="div",float="left")}{DIV} type might be redundant, I don't know. Each DIV should not be on a new line, but follow immediately after the preceding DIV. To be sure break tags aren't added after each.	[13:24]
coaboa	oki try it... thx	[13:27]
chibaguy	Similar concept: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Floated%20box%20demo Oh, you probably need to specify the width of the divs so they don't default to auto/100%.	[13:28]
coaboa	cool link. wasn't aware of that. thx	[13:30]
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coaboa_	this will create a loooooooooooooooong line of code ;-)	[13:33]
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chibaguy	Yep. It's probably a good idea to create it in another editor with proper indenting and then remove the white space before pasting into Tiki's. But you could/should test with just 2 or 3 images to make sure it works, first.	[13:34]
coaboa	using n++...	[13:37]
	can i embed a {split} img@@@subtitle{split} and have both floated together?	[13:49]
chibaguy	I don't recall what split does exactly, because i avoid using it.	[13:51]
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ricks99	{SPLIT} just builds a table for layout purposes	[13:51]
chibaguy	I don't like to use tables for layout.	[13:51]
coaboa	is there a better was to have a subtitle tied to the icon? *way	[13:52]
ricks99	@coaboa: if you're using {img}, you can add desc="foo" for a subtitle	[13:52]
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coaboa	but thats only visible on mousover and the plugin mousover doesnt work then...	[13:53]
chibaguy	also, the IMAGE plugin can have a caption.	[13:53]
ricks99	hm.. my {img desc="foo"} dont require mouseover	[13:54]
coaboa	easiest way would be that pluginmousover supports images ;-) ok try the description... thx thought it is like alternate text	[13:54]
ricks99	alt="foo" for alt text, desc="foo" for description/caption	[13:55]
chibaguy	Seems like the Image plugin might work for this, without separate container divs.	[13:55]
coaboa	can I use PluginMouseover on that description?	[13:58]
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coaboa	tried this: Div-float-left \| split-align-center \| Div-alig-center \| Img-image&link-Img \| Img \| Div @@@ same but text instead of img \| Split \| Div. works but caption isn't centered... :-( but was when split embedet all icons but beside the caption text, images got floated as desired!	[14:16]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25928 10/trunk/templates/advanced_search_help.tpl: [MOD] Reformat advanced search help to fit in with other help panels (and be more semantic)	[14:20]
coaboa	ok embeding the split in a floated and in a centered div produces the desired effect... thx for helping	[14:30]
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chibaguy	glad you found a way	[14:38]
xavi	hi all quick question before late lunch... how can I justify some text in tiki 2.4? {TAG(tag=align, style=justify)} didn't work for me nor {TAG(tag=p, style=align:justify)}	[14:40]
ricks99	@xavi: {HTML()}<div style="align: justify;">foo</div>{HTML}	[14:42]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25929 10/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Change the help popup dialog to use tabs instead of accordion (hopefully easier to use)	[15:05]
jonnyb	hi all - i've been wondering about the jquery compatibility mode - i think it was generally decided we should move out of compatibility mode, but it would mean (gradually) changing all the "$jq" references to just "$" - anyone have any thoughts on this?	[15:06]
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chealer	jonnyb: hi. I'm not sure I understand your question. are you worried that it would cause lots of noisy changes in svn diffs or what?	[15:20]
jonnyb	yes, it would be a huge commit - most files now have a ref to $jq maybe we leave it to after 5.0 jonnyb curses mootools	[15:21]
mlaporte	I thought we would always leave in compatibility mode? (so people can use external stuff)	[15:23]
jonnyb	i guess - it's your S5 library that won't work without $ :D	[15:23]
chealer	jonnyb: can we use $ currently?	[15:24]
jonnyb	yup, which makes the compatibility thing pointless	[15:26]
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jonnyb	i would say at some point (6.0?) that we should expect anyone using other libs to use the compatibility thing	[15:26]
chealer	jonnyb: are you worried by the risk of breakage of the huge commit?	[15:27]
jonnyb	yes, it would be a lot to check - i did a grep (for $jqb) and found rather a lot!	[15:28]
mlaporte	mlaporte is looking forward to S5-Tiki jonnyb: I am giving a talk at Confoo.ca in a few days (no pressure) :-)	[15:32]
chealer	so I guess we could start using $ in new code and finish the transition after Tiki 5?	[15:32]
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mlaporte	Or ask jQuery s5 people to dev in compabibilty mode?	[15:33]
jonnyb	yes, mlaporte - i copied you on an initial contact mail to the guy	[15:34]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25930 10/third_party/jquery/ (13 files in 4 dirs): [NEW] jQuery JQS5 - standards based slideshow plugin (experimental)	[15:34]
jonnyb	thought i'd leave specifics until we've made contact	[15:34]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25931 10/trunk/templates/tiki-show_page_raw.tpl: [FIX] Obey prefs for page_bar (even in raw)	[15:35]
mlaporte	There is a typo on last link on http://70.38.78.50/tiki/tiki-index_raw.php?page=Slide+show+test#s4 Which sends us to http://70.38.78.50/tiki/tiki-index_raw_raw.php?page=Slide+show+test jonnyb: good move! (about contact & specifics)	[15:37]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25932 10/trunk/tiki-index_raw.php: [MOD] Make tiki-index_raw.php slightly less "raw" by using tiki_full.tpl which includes CSS etc in the header.	[15:38]
jonnyb	yes, there's a weird hack in index_raw that replaces any refs to tiki-index.php with one to tiki-index_raw.php so you'll have to use the SEFRUL address to get out like that! (but not in IIS!)	[15:38]
mlaporte	LOL	[15:38]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25933 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [NEW] JQS5 experimental feature (jQuery driven standards based slideshow). tikiwiki: Early days... tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25934 10/third_party/jquery/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Upgrade Cluetips to 1.0.7 (minor bug fix)	[15:40]
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FrankP_german	Tikiwiki 4.1 : unset tiki_p_view_categories - Obsolete tw>=4 (Can view categories) for group Anonymous then not show Categories bottom of wiki pages group Registered show the Categories Is this a update problem or a bug?	[16:16]
xavi	back ricks99: thanks, I'll try with html plugin hi mlaporte and jonnyb	[16:17]
jonnyb	hi xavi	[16:18]
xavi	S5 coming back to the scene ( mlaporte: you're untirable ! )	[16:18]
jonnyb	some little updates to sheet coming soon	[16:18]
xavi	and jquery-fied! ah, great I tested a few days ago and I could see the help, etc. and move with arrows everywhere... you are doing a great job, jonnyb!	[16:18]
jonnyb	thanks xavi :) the guy's just added a multiple (tabbed) sheet facility but save sheet seems to have broken :(	[16:20]
xavi	sound nice oups I see that, regarding adding rows or columns, user should be allowed to specify where to add them like former tikisheet interface	[16:20]
jonnyb	it should add them after the row you're on	[16:22]
xavi	it didn't do it like this for me using firefox at least like [off-topic] inserting markup from the toolbar in wiki edit mode: markup is added at the end of the edit interface, and not where the cursor is (annoying regression) in 4.1, at least, and with firefox, at least ricks99: tiki 2.4 doesn't have plugin html :-/ ah, ok, but in tiki 2.4 you are allowed to add html in the wiki page (provided the feature is enabled, like we have in our site) :-) so html tags worked within the text. Issue Solved for that 2.4 site thanks ricks99	[16:24]
chibaguy	xavi: {TAG(tag=div,style=text-align:justify)} content {TAG}	[16:34]
xavi	ah, good catch! I'l try that also :-)	[16:34]
chibaguy	ok	[16:34]
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chibaguy	It works in trunk, I don't know about 2.4	[16:35]
xavi	ok chibaguy, yes, it seems to work also on tiki 2.4! :-) thanks for tip! I'll add a custom quicktag for that in our site	[16:35]
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chibaguy	ok, good.	[16:39]
xavi	arghhh... I can't add that through the quicktag administration "text" from "text-align" is parsed as the text to surround with the plugin so the long text is going inside the param style (funny)	[16:41]
jonnyb	try caps?	[16:42]
xavi	{TAG(tag=div,style=Text-align:justify)} ? or {TAG(tag=div,style=TEXT-ALIGN:justify)} ? xavi trying great workaround, jonny, it worked! TEXT-ALIGN solved thanks, ricks99, chibaguy and jonnyb for feedback	[16:44]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r25935 10/trunk/lib/prefs/ (count.php feature.php global.php pass.php site.php user.php): [ENH]Added/updated help text for several options	[16:56]
ricks99	@xavi/jonnyb: for proper xhtml validation, all tags must be lower case	[16:57]
xavi	oh well, that tiki site won't validate, then	[16:58]
jonnyb	i know (but it saves me having to fix it ;) )	[16:58]
xavi	:-) and don't worry, I will not commit that (with upper case) to trunk	[16:58]
ricks99	k :-) ricks99 likes the new 'tabs' in the help window that replaced the 'flip'	[16:58]
jonnyb	jonnyb is happy	[17:00]
xavi	xavi going to test right now	[17:01]
jonnyb	also, we can switch to use jquery-ui tabs for tikitabs fairly painlessly (i think)	[17:02]
xavi	when is branch 5 going to be created? was it supposed to occur after feature-freeze? (= yesterday?)	[17:02]
jonnyb	should be one along soon - but we need to branch first, surely?	[17:03]
xavi	wohoo, chibaguy seem to have been very busy (jqui theme style ;-) ) branching: sorry, I'm not the best one to answer by the way, is there anybody here which masters the new webdav or ical features? I couldn't find any documentation, or just simple tips on how to use them.... and potential documenters, like me, will need some tips on how to make them work (I couildn't figutre it out by myself in two trials I made) jonnyb, congratulations! that's much much better xavi is glad that he dared to throw that wish on irc a few days ago	[17:03]
jonnyb	yes, wrong thing (again) for an accordion jonnyb missed that but did it anyway	[17:09]
xavi	btw, I confirm that markup is added at the end of firefox edit area, and not at cursor position nkoth around?	[17:10]
nkoth	yes why?	[17:10]
xavi	I recall reading nkoth before 4.0 release that he fixed that... hi nelson didn't you fix that problem with firefox in 4.0 (in theory)	[17:10]
nkoth	which pbm?	[17:11]
xavi	markup is added at the end of firefox edit area, and not at cursor position from clicking at toolbar icon, etc in trunk using firefox 3.6.2pre here	[17:11]
nkoth	I remember fixing it before release of 4 yes in Montreal - jonny was there	[17:15]
jonnyb	yes, i remember	[17:16]
nkoth	and he said someting abt refactoring the fix coz it was in too many places	[17:16]
xavi	well, should I fill in a bug report about this (trunk)? or is it something easy to fix again in trunk before tiki5 ins branched? jonnyb and nkoth: I confirm that this is broken to me also on tiki 4.1 and not just trunk	[17:16]
jonnyb	firefox seem to keep messing with how textareas track their selections - it's very dull cao i'm sure it was fixed in 4.x for firefox 3.5 cao/cos	[17:20]
xavi	ah, jonnyb, I found the issue with columns in jquery.sheet: when adding many cols or rows at once, they are added at the end. when adding just one, it's added next to the cell with focus in current trunk	[17:22]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r25936 10/trunk/lib/setup/set_paths.php: remove lib/setup/set_paths.php, unused since r9631	[17:38]
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sylvieg	jonnyb: did you notice autocomplete does not with accent...	[17:54]
jonnyb	hi sylvieg - no (don't type many accents)	[17:54]
sylvieg	ah no mal fault perhaps ah ah .. the list_user list the real name not the login	[17:54]
jonnyb	really? that doesn't sound right - which one?	[17:56]
sylvieg	autocomplete is perfect :-) tiki-adminusers.php should probably list the login and not the realname	[17:56]
jonnyb	indeed	[17:57]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25938 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Fixes for 1.0 jQuery.sheet. 0 based cells, changes to location of some functions etc	[17:58]
jonnyb	hmm - does logins for me - that's a pref isn't it? odd - i have user_show_realnames=y but get logins on admin users	[17:58]
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xavi	jonnyb, I see some broken layout issues + "sheetid is required" with jquery.sheet are you aware? do you want me to report at dev.tw.o/spreadsheet, or when you finish you next round of fixes?	[18:19]
jonnyb	oh? (thought i'd got all of those)	[18:20]
xavi	mmm let me clen all caches just in case	[18:20]
jonnyb	been doing it all afternoon :(	[18:20]
xavi	titles of columns a nd B are shown vertically title of col "B" is shown underneath of col A using firefox underneath of title "A", I mean	[18:21]
jonnyb	really - looks ok for me	[18:21]
xavi	ff?	[18:21]
jonnyb	can you send me a snapshot?	[18:21]
xavi	yes,	[18:22]
jonnyb	y, in fx 3.5.8	[18:22]
xavi	and just in case, I'll do that again with a new sheet ff 3.6.2pre here, in case it matters and I saw "A SheetId is required" when attempting to save the sheet (with a few more rows and cols, in case it matters also) mmm, again, layout fixed if I create a new one is layout somehow saved in tiki for each tiki sheet?	[18:22]
jonnyb	spooky... layout?	[18:26]
xavi	the position of the title in column b the greyed cell with the title, I mean	[18:27]
jonnyb	greyed cells? the bar at the top of the sheet do you mean? A, B, C etc	[18:28]
xavi	yes, with col names anyway, it works now to me I can't find the help for the spreadsheet where did it go?	[18:28]
jonnyb	he made _huge_ changes in the back-end - so maybe it was just caches etc being odd working on it (another big change)	[18:29]
xavi	ok (caches) ok :-) great!	[18:30]
jonnyb	and the menu	[18:30]
xavi	ah, ok, now I see that saving shows nothing to me but when I click on edit, I see the sheet still with my former chagnes step by step did you know, saving shows as if edition was lost and no sheet shown?	[18:30]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r25939 10/trunk/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: [FIX]user: show login and realname in tiki-adminusers.php is real name on	[18:35]
xavi	sylvieg, could you coordinate with jonnyb to have "contribution type" feature working again in sheet even when jquery.sheet is on? I managed days ago to have the "contribution type" displayed also with jquery.sheet	[18:38]
sylvieg	sorry today will be hard	[18:39]
xavi	but I didn't know how to make it save to action log also the contrubtion type selected no, no urgency	[18:39]
jonnyb	oh yes, sorry xavi - maybe mail me with these?	[18:39]
xavi	I mean, if possible, before tiki5 is released	[18:39]
sylvieg	if you can send me a mail not to forget ...	[18:39]
xavi	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Spreadsheet#Quick_list_with_r25938	[18:39]
sylvieg	my list before tiki5 is so huge	[18:39]
xavi	^does it work on a wiki page? ok, sylvieg, I'll send you an email also with that specific part	[18:39]
sylvieg	I still have to look at your problem with upload...	[18:41]
xavi	upload?	[18:41]
sylvieg	but I solved all my problem with ldap - I am so happy	[18:41]
xavi	xavi touched so many problems in the last weeks... :-/	[18:41]
sylvieg	download not for admin	[18:41]
xavi	great yuo solved your ldap headache!	[18:41]
sylvieg	for my point of view - yes and I wrote some doc about all I learnt	[18:42]
xavi	download for anons when they don't have the perm to download attid? do you mean this one?	[18:42]
sylvieg	yes	[18:43]
xavi	ah, ok, thanks for looking at that at some point luckily the file was not containing sensitive data (this time)	[18:43]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25940 10/third_party/jquery/jquery.sheet/jquery.sheet.js: [FIX] openSheet from a URL tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r25941 10/trunk/ (lib/jquery_tiki/jquery.sheet/menu.html tiki-setup.php): [FIX] Restore sheet menu and help tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r25942 10/trunk/lib/prefs/auth.php: [FIX]ldap: to have the description of openldap following the code: userattr is not used for the bind	[18:45]
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xavi	ricks99: can you have IE7 and IE8 in the same computer at the same time? I'm finally installing a win instance on virtualbox to test sites with IEx and i'd like to use the same installation to test both ie7 and ie8	[19:03]
ricks99	@xavi: I use IE8 + Developer Tools. It has a "render in IE7 mode"	[19:08]
xavi	ah, ok and where do I get this developer tools? these are they free? (as in free beer, at least)	[19:08]
ricks99	y. its a browser add on (similar to firebug). 1 sec i'll give u url d'oh i think it is included in stadnard ie8 install. press F12	[19:09]
xavi	ah, ok. no ie8 yet just installed winxp right now i'll try when I have ie8 installed	[19:13]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: separate content on /tiki-index.php and the main home page -- possible?> - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36555	[19:16]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r25943 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX]categories: confirm message - thx chealer	[19:17]
xavi	btw, jonnyb, how is the setup process for cclite at c2c? sorry to raise all those questions this evening but it was difficult for me to find some time on irc this week	[19:24]
jonnyb	that's ok	[19:24]
xavi	and in 20' I must go "That's ok" = installed and working? and do you know how to use it already?	[19:25]
jonnyb	we need to be able to edit the config files - mainly the cclite.cnf	[19:25]
xavi	I mean, in case you need me to ping vicente... ah, ok, he offered to let us do that	[19:25]
jonnyb	no, it's ok to ask all the questions :P	[19:25]
xavi	can you write him with that information?	[19:26]
jonnyb	i did one in our local cgi-bin dir which might work ok	[19:26]
FrankP_german	question Tikiwiki 4.1 : Is it intended to begin the in the categories of all the words in large letters? http://simutrans-germany.com/files/upload/Zwischenablage02.png	[19:26]
xavi	so, may I suggest, if you get stuck at any point, write to him (with me on cc), so that we keep the ball rolling	[19:26]
jonnyb	it doesn't look like it supports multiple domains afaics	[19:26]
xavi	jonnyb: no idea myself	[19:27]
jonnyb	there was also what looked like some include path issues (perl flavour errors)	[19:27]
xavi	ok, if you could report to vjrj to find out the best way to solve with workarounds or fixes...	[19:28]
jonnyb	will do	[19:29]
xavi	thks	[19:29]
chibaguy	starting the tikifest streaming at ustream.tv....	[19:29]
xavi	:-) chibaguy, are you at the tikifest? (otherwise, it might be very late for you)	[19:29]
chibaguy	yep, I'm I am.	[19:30]
xavi	:-)	[19:30]
chibaguy	Not too coherent, but here.	[19:30]
xavi	:-) I'm sorry I'll miss that xavi have dancing lessons with my wife :-) has his xavi found he can't pretend he is not himself when writing on irc	[19:31]
chibaguy	what kind of dancing?	[19:32]
xavi	this time, saloon dancing (a mixture)	[19:33]
chibaguy	sounds fun.	[19:33]
xavi	so a little of salsa, merenge, rock, ... even a bit of tango! yes, it's fun (when barely follow the teacher....) and the other couples are 50 year old onwards (and probably some are 60+) so this is a mixture of ages and skills... (not many people are able to follow th eteachers all the time) nice caos from time to time :-) fun for sure	[19:33]
chealer	sylvieg: which script do you use to merge from stable to trunk? sylvieg: we're wondering if it would be easy to merge only language files from stable files	[19:46]
sylvieg	the script taht is in the dev.tw site svn tips??? you can not merge language file because order change but you can concatenate them in them rerun a get_strings	[19:47]
chealer	sylvieg: thanks sylvieg: what do you mean because order change?	[19:49]
sylvieg	somebody can have run the get_strings with different params...	[19:50]
chealer	sylvieg: what problems could that cause?	[19:50]
sylvieg	or the merge because there is no lines... my old experience about merge in lang -was bad..	[19:51]
xavi	bbl	[19:55]
chealer	sylvieg: can we call you?	[19:55]
mlaporte	sylvieg: dring	[19:56]
jonnyb	taking a break (food) - bbl	[20:06]
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sylvieg	ok back sylvieg accepting call	[20:13]
chealer	sylvieg: cool. Marc is dicussing with Patrick, we'll tell you when we're available.	[20:16]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r25945 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX]category: directories in admin categ	[20:22]
chealer	sylvieg: regarding the ticket commit/message, are you sure POST needs confirmaction? confirmaction is used only rarely. and I see code that should made it unneeded tikiticketlib.php:64: $smarty->assign('post',$_POST); which the confirm.tpl template presumably uses	[20:26]
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sylvieg	my 2 cents will go for a confirmation js popup like in fgal .. everywhere I added the last param for delete in admin_users	[20:26]
uSlacker	sylvig - Greg Martin here (who can't spell)	[20:27]
sylvieg	a long time ago - perhaps somebody added in the confirm the POST	[20:27]
MartinCleaver	MartinCleaver goes back to sleep	[20:27]
sylvieg	hi uSlacker	[20:28]
uSlacker	can you give me a commandline to svn up for 4.x or 5?	[20:28]
sylvieg	sylvieg never spells correctly	[20:28]
uSlacker	I'll test that fix but I'm svn illiterate :-)	[20:28]
sylvieg	svn switch https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk	[20:29]
chealer	sylvieg: well, that $smarty->assign('post',$_POST); is there since ticketlib2 exists	[20:29]
uSlacker	is that for v5? I want to make sure I update the correct codebase	[20:29]
chealer	uSlacker: yes	[20:29]
uSlacker	thanks, I'll be back	[20:30]
sylvieg	5 is still in trunk not yet release	[20:30]
chealer	sylvieg: so you see no problem if I'd remove the confirmaction param?	[20:30]
luciash	polom polom	[20:30]
sylvieg	and do not forget sh doc/devtools/sqlupgrade.sh	[20:30]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r25946 10/branches/proposals/4.x/ (lib/imagegals/imagegallib.php tiki-browse_gallery.php): [Technical backport from 4.x to proposal/4.x] [r/24386][FIX] Fix sql errors when using subgalleries. Fixed bugid 2892	[20:30]
chealer	hi luciash	[20:30]
sylvieg	chealer: ok old stuff	[20:30]
luciash	hi chealer	[20:31]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r25947 10/trunk/lib/ (auth/ldap.php setup/prefs.php userslib.php): [FIX] ldap authentication : apply sept_7 patch to fix LDAP authentication (especially with anonymous bind)	[20:31]
luciash	luciash has to scroll and read back	[20:32]
chealer	sylvieg: I didn't see the fgal's js popup - sounds interesting	[20:32]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r25948 10/trunk/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php: [FIX]perm: not to be handle to download if view a page but not download tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r25949 10/branches/proposals/4.x/lib/ (auth/ldap.php setup/prefs.php userslib.php): [bp/r25947][FIX] ldap authentication : apply sept_7 patch to fix LDAP authentication (especially with anonymous bind)	[20:37]
sylvieg	have to go - back 15mn	[20:37]
luciash	uff, that's huge read :-p xavi: hola, you probably realized it didn't work for you because in your first example you forgot it has to be style="text-align: justify" not just the "align: justify" >whatis S5	[20:45]
Sug4r	Error: No factoid matches that key.	[20:47]
luciash	anybody ?	[20:47]
chealer	luciash: Marc told me it is a slideshow standard/library, there is now a jQuery plugin for it	[20:49]
luciash	chealer: ah, tnx, never heard of it no more streaming ?	[20:49]
chealer	luciash: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S5_%28file_format%29	[20:50]
luciash	luciash watching the last one in the background of his transparent terminal ;-)	[20:50]
chealer	Gary said we were on ustream not long ago	[20:50]
luciash	last one recorded i mean	[20:51]
chealer	(Gary, Patrick and Marc are discussing CSS architecture)	[20:51]
luciash	off air currently	[20:51]
chealer	Gary says there's no ustream right now	[20:52]
luciash	interesting yes, will there be one still tonight ? why bbb didn't work this time ? or what was the reason to go with ustream again ? i guess i have to wait for gary to ask those types of questions, sure :)	[20:52]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r25950 10/branches/4.x/lib/ (auth/ldap.php setup/prefs.php userslib.php): tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r25949 \| nyloth \| 2010-03-05 21:37:29 +0100 (Fri, 05 Mar 2010) \| 1 line tikiwiki: [bp/r25947][FIX] ldap authentication : apply sept_7 patch to fix LDAP authentication (especially with anonymous bind) tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r25951 10/branches/4.x/lib/auth/ldap.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r25862 \| sylvieg \| 2010-03-02 23:17:55 +0100 (Tue, 02 Mar 2010) \| 1 line tikiwiki: [bp/r 25861][FIX]ldap: missing global - that was failing openldap auth tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r25952 10/branches/4.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport tikiwiki: r25926 \| ricks99 \| 2010-03-05 13:45:14 +0100 (Fri, 05 Mar 2010) \| 1 line tikiwiki: [ENH]Added support for RESET button to Tracker forms. Backport of 25911 from Trunk	[21:02]
sylvieg	back	[21:08]
chealer	CSS discussion still ongoing, Marc acting as translator	[21:12]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3064 - - Links to translation(s) in article subpages - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3064	[21:19]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r25953 10/branches/4.x/ (11 files in 3 dirs): [REL] Preparing 4.2 release	[21:21]
chealer	discussion over sylvieg: can we still call you?	[21:26]
sylvieg	yes	[21:26]
chealer	sylvieg: won't be long	[21:26]
CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r25954 10/branches/4.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 4.2	[21:34]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r25955 10/branches/4.x/lang/ (36 files in 36 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 4.2	[21:42]
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CIA-62	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r25956 10/branches/4.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 4.2	[21:44]
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	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r25959 10/tags/4.2/: [REL] Tagging release	[21:57]
chibaguy	Ustream.tv back on. luciash, we have a netbook and webcam that I think are supposed to be for BBB, but it didn't get set up yet, I guess.	[21:58]
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chealer	it's Marc's good old ASUS netbook	[22:09]
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luciash	chealer: ASUS or Acer :-p ? bbl, shower time	[22:52]
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uSlacker	perhaps one of you can help me with an SVN question. I'm trying to checkout trunk when I do some directories fail with an error that SSL negotiations fail	[23:07]
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uSlacker	and then something like Error handling externals definition for lib/smarty	[23:09]
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luciash	re chibaguy: so what did u talk about in the CSS discussion if not secret ? ;) luciash is always interested in CSS	[23:11]
sylvieg	uSlacker: didi you svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk my_tiki_dir	[23:23]
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sylvieg	the switch did not work?	[23:24]
luciash	the ustream is very unstable... no fun :(	[23:33]
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sylvieg	sylvieg trying to do a general approach for tracker filtering on inegality operator	[23:34]
luciash	sylvieg: what is inegality ?	[23:37]
sylvieg	before a date , smaller tha a value...	[23:37]
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luciash	you mean "before a date" ?	[23:45]
sylvieg	yes a smaller that a value	[23:45]
luciash	why not to use lesser than timestamp ? since 1970	[23:46]
sylvieg	do you imagine somebody entering the timestamp?	[23:47]
luciash	i thought that's general to compare date/time and then convert to date string and back there must be function "any date" to timestamp, nope ?	[23:47]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Info: Tiki Announces 3.5 and 4.2 Releases - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article86-Tiki-Announces-3-5-and-4-2-Releases	[23:48]
luciash	any date format	[23:48]
sylvieg	to be clean we need to offer jscalandar or smarty select date for the value	[23:49]
ricks99	Q: on info.tw.o home page, the release number is a variable %stablereleasenumber% -- how do i change it?	[23:52]
sylvieg	... i remember usualyy I have to go to dev to tw.org sorry	[23:53]
ricks99	ah... Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 44040192 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 491520 bytes) in /var/www/tikiwiki.org/templates_c/en-us^%%85^850^850614BB%%user_watch_wiki_page_changed.tpl.php on line 122 ARGH! @sylvieg: where would i find it? it isn't dynamic content?	[23:53]
sylvieg	no it is a file on tw.org but I do not remember the name..	[23:57]
luciash	isn't it a dynamic variable ?	[23:58]
sylvieg	wherre is %stable...	[23:58]
luciash	%foo% usually are (in wiki syntax)	[23:58]
sylvieg	perhaps but I remember each time somebody has to go to tw..	[23:58]
ricks99	a file or a variable i dont see it listed http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-list_contents.php	[23:59]

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