ibrrorg: i will be in about 10 mins
good deal
ibrrorg: whassup ?
im gonna pm u ok?
ok
yeah so marc got my paper on the maps and i am hopeful!
also i will want to have you do the eventual upgrade if you will be available?
debating on tiki 4.2 or wait for 5.2
ibrrorg: if you're on 4.1 don't wait and upgrade to 4.2
im on 4.0 you'd done the upgrade
u have to upgrade anyway
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r26072 10/branches/5.x/ (README changelog.txt copyright.txt): [REL] release related commits
i can do that for you tomorrow if you don't feel like doing that yourself
i'll email ya as that might work thanx and now back to the grind for you young man!  mush mush on the fixes!  :)  millions of us non coders depend on ya'll!
hi
hello?
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26073 10/branches/5.x/tiki-admin_actionlog.php: [FIX] Strict Standards: Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated - PHP 5 changed the behavior and the object is defaultly passed by references
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26074 10/branches/5.x/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Strict Standards: Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated - PHP 5 changed the behavior and the object is defaultly passed by references
coe.int: anyone here?
tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r26075 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin_surveys.tpl: [ENH]access stats for specific surveys directly from the admin listing of all surveys
woo-hoo. my first 5.x commit :-)
tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r26076 10/branches/proposals/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH]access stats for specific surveys directly from the admin listing of all surveys. backport of 26075 from 5.x
franck: yes ?
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26077 10/tags/5.0Alpha/: [REL] Tagging release
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26078 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl: [MOD]module: show the default if any
working fine for info.tw.o (4.2)...
working fine for dev.tw.o (4.2)...
working fine for doc.tw.o (4.2)...
*not* working on themes (5.0a)...
*not* working on profiles (4.1)...
*not* working on community (4.1)
any ideas?
hi ricks99 - sorry, never did the analytics thing - odd versions pattern there though... can you check for JS errors (in Firebug for instance)
no errors. the code is actually not appearing at all.
it is in the l&f end of body, but does not appear when tiki generates the pages
and y, have cleared caches :-)
does strasa have a custom tpl for that bit? (i know it has a couple - curse them!)
shouldnt matter. for example, info using strasa is fine. but profiles is not
hi
i have uploaded tiki on server and i have set permissions to 644 for files and 755 for directories, but i still get blank page
@Weisser: the #1 reason for blank pages is not enough PHP memory. see faq: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-list_faqs.php
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26079 10/branches/5.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]calendar module: try to be able to have the same display in calendar module than the old one
ricks99, i haven't installed it yet.. how much memory do i need to see the page "cannot find local.php"?
minimum is 32M. Pls see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Requirements for details
i'
i've noticed that large portion of the files i seemingly uploaded have a size of 0
? the download of Tiki from sourceforge had files of 0K -- that's not right
possibly your download of the tiki.zip is corrupt. can you try again?
i think it's more probably an issue between my pc and hosting
it's a free hosting, and there are some issues with uploading
ahhh. check your ftp log then. confirm that all files were transferred properly berfore attempting the installation
Weisser: it might be possible that TW will not work on a free host, i dont know many that meet all the requirements
this one seems to be a decent one
000webhost.com
i already managed to run dokuwiki on it
dokuwiki does not even have a database or half the requirements that TW does
dokuwiki also doesn't have half of the features of Tiki :-)
lol
well, it may be that i will have to use a different hosting
:(
most likely a paid host will work, and a much greater chance it will
also less issues with space of the files on the server
@Weisser: pls see docs: http://tikiwiki.org/Tiki+Friendly+Hosts
i am not willing to pay for what i need tiki for
if i am unabe to do it free of charge, i won't do it at all
you could try asking around and seeing if anyone would be willing to let you share hosting space
you're right, this is an option
i also have a hosting leftover from my high school
tough that would mean i would be less anonymous
do they have php and mysql?
yes
that's a very decent hosting
nice
they used to have best bandwidth available in the city
hello. does anyone have experience with staging and approval? 
i set up staging, and it works quite well, however, I do not want anyone other than the approving group to be able to see what is in the staging category.
otherwise people can sign up, create spam pages, and they are viewable to the public. my only other option would be to remove the global permission for anonymous users to see wiki pages, andthen have to enable it for each page that i create or approve.
There isn't a way to say, if group x created a page, apply x permissions, is there?
did u set the category permssions for the staging category properly? to allow only specific groups to see it?
I could have sworn I did.
let me tell you what I have...
okay. i have a category called staging. i go there, click the key, "Can see the category in a listing (tiki_p_view_category)" is only checked off for editors and subadmins
what about can edit categoirzed objects?
01tiki_p_view_category refers only to viewing the category (its name) in a list of all categories -- not the actual objects within the category
hmm. i do not see that
what is your tiki version?
yeah, i cannot find "can edit categorized objects."
4.1
no, i mean the permissios for the *category* -- not the group
you need to turn on/off the tiki_p_edit and tiki_p_view for the *category*
if I go to my staging category, and enter tiki_p_edit nothing is checked
y. because the global/group perms apply -- you need to override them for that category
give tiki_p_edit only to the group that you want to be able to edit staging pages
ah, so if i check nothing, that that particular permisson just uses the global policy
<shamless plug> this may be useful to you: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/How+Permissions+Work </shameless plug>
because it already says "This category's direct permissions override any global permissions affecting objects in it." 
y. any object-specific perms will override global persm
it turned out to be those corrupted empty files
yeah, that didnt make a difference.
did u clear the cache?
yes. still shows up under list pages
tiki_p_edit is only for *editing*. If you want to fully hide the page, you also need tiki_p_view
is 64 mb php memory sufficient?
if i go to my category, press the key, tiki_p_view_category and tiki_p_view are both only checked for editors and subadmins
should be hidden from anonymous then. confirm that the pag in question is actually in the category
Hi all
its not. which leaves the question, why isnt it automatically put there. i have the category selected in the staging dropdown menu
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26080 10/branches/5.x/lang/ (43 files in 43 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 5.0Alpha
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26081 10/branches/5.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 5.0Alpha
check docs http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki+Page+Staging+and+Approval and confirm ur config is correct
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26082 10/branches/5.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 5.0Alpha
especially the Force bounce of editing of approved pages to staging option
i have that checked, but it happens even with new pages.
not sure then, sorry. u might want to post to the support fourm
maybe because when they go to edit, they do not have the option of picking a category, so maybe it never gets routed to my category named "staging"
the page needs to be in the "approved" category first
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26083 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 5.0Alpha
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26084 10/tags/5.0Alpha/: [REL] Deleting tag 'tags/5.0Alpha' in order to create a new one
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26085 10/tags/5.0Alpha/: [REL] Tagging release
hmm. yeah. it will say, "This is the staging copy of the approved version of this page." but it never goes into the category
duh.. i think i might have found the issue.
"_HOMEPAGE_CONTENT_" is that normal?
also i get timeouted when trying to login
nope. that wasnt it. i thought maybe I had to give them tiki_p_add_object or tiki_p_edit on the staging category
i will reset it to the global and see if it goes in there then.
btw guys, the hosting i mentioned before seems to be very bad
no luck. the edits always wind up uncategorized.
I need help for a simple (very simple) thing on the wiki syntax.  I wish to add my suggestion on this page: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/WatchIcon  yet, if I click on the Edit section of the Table of content page, I only get a one word line:  {maketoc}.  Can any one point me to a documentation page where I can learn how to edit a page, what syntax to use, etc?
pls see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wiki+syntax
Hum.  The link does not render.
? wfm
wfm meaning the work flow manager?
wfm = works for me
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=wiki-syntax+text
Tks.  Got it.
bbl
No, this:  http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=wiki-syntax+text  does not answer my question.  What I am looking for is how I can go a bit deeper.  Here is an exemple of what I mean:  First, I go to:  http://dev.tikiwiki.org/WatchIcon.  Then, I go to edit the Table of content at: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=WatchIcon&hdr=0 All I have, there, is one word:  {maketoc} .  My question is: Where would I find 
hmm. while it will tell me i am looking at a staged copy, the published version does not tell me that there are staged copies, or show me the differences, etc.
the toc is automatically build when you use ! , !!
@daniam: on http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wiki+syntax click the "USING WIKI PAGES" link
polom
@daniam: you might also consider <shamless plug> the tiki beginner's guide: http://twbasics.keycontent.org </shamless plug>
ah, those options appear once I manually put it into my staging directory
daniam: don't click the section edit icon but the one in icons bar above
damn it :/
i tried my school hosting
the section edit one edits only portions of page and the first one contains only maketoc which generates the  toc from the content of the page (headings)
it seems they have a quota on file number
soft quota of 4000
it seems dumb, am i right? who knows why they limit number of files -.-
i wonder if they are supposed to manually pick the staging category when they edit. 
I did.  Yet, the Table of content does not appear.  Does it mean that the toc is generated or updated one might say automatically?
Weisser: _HOMEPAGE_CONTENT_ usually means your language hasn't the HomePage content translatet yet
daniam: yes
luciash, thanks
@daniam: yes, please see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/pluginmaketoc
luciash, can i do anything to make tikiwiki thinner? i need to reduce the number of files
Weisser: remove all languages you don't need
it has ~10k files, and i can only have up to 4k
did that already
is it even possible to reduce number of files below 4k
?
Weisser: you will not reduce by removing much more unless you know what to remove from the Zend lib
and btw maybe you know why there even is such a quota on ym school server? :<
Tks ricks99
yw
we had tikilite script once but it is not available nomore iirc
:/
It's hard to be a newbie.  If feels eternal ;-)
damn, i just dont understand it, why 150 mb of size quota isn't enough
IT feels eternal
why do they have to add stupid file count quota of 40k
@daniam: np. tiki is *huge*. my primer is pretty good tho (imho)
hi, if i change the domainname 
where i need to edit to change the domain on the DB ?
Weisser: if you don't need all the bells and whistles you can download old 1.9.11 version (unmaintained) it runs on 16M memory limit and you can remove Galaxia lib from it to reduce weight (it has no Zend back than yet)
what do you mean by bells and whistles?
i'd rather find yet another host
Weisser: or what is your project about ? opensource ? then you could try to host it on some service like sf.net or ourproject.org
but damn, it's a dissapitment, my school host is all god, spare the stupid file limit
nah, it's a game related project
lates bells and whistles i mean latest cool new features
yeah, but what kind of features would i lose
is posible to change domain name ?
lot of them
and no support :-/
Weisser: better try look for another hosting
Weisser: are there any gaming servers supporting free hosting ?
@albertux: the name is/should be relative. there's no domain name control within tiki
but doesn't work if i change the domain
all internal links are relative to your install location. it shouldn't matter
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3078 - - 'next page' link in forum threads doesn't ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3078
 New Forum Posts: Staging help - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36648
luciash, thanks for all help, i might try contacting admin of that server and ask him for an exception
i remove cache and works
I just went into groups, and saw a setting "Default category assigned to uncategorized objects edited by a user with this default group:" I used the staging group, and still nothing goes in there.
changi: still here?
ooookay
so. i turned off categories, and staging. I turned categories back on, created the two categories, and turned on staging with the apropriate categories, and now I get the editing option but they still never go into the category
does anyone here use this and have it work properly? i just dont see why it would be behaving this way for me alone.
its a brand new install. i didnt upgrade or anything
damn, i have head enough of hs :D i am buying hosting space from a quality commercial service
toctoc
maybe I will just remove the whole install and start fresh
without this working, the whole wiki idea doesnt really work for me. :/
using file gallery to store images... where do i set the default thumbnail size?
ricks99: it's hard coded i'm afraid - i shudder each time i remember (it wasn't me!)
frack
in lib/images/abstract.php
good thing that image gallery wasn't completly removed...
ricks99: +1 :-)
hi jonnyb
hi xavi
hi hi
"frack" ? :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frak_%28expletive%29
a, ok, fictional version.... (I imagined so :-) )
howto add google analytics ?
{GOOGLEANALYTICS(account=xxxxxx)} it's ok ?
albertux, did you read the documentation?
no
jaja
sorry
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Documentation and search for the plugin
anybody knows how to use the webdav feature in tiki5?
or the ical?
only says google maps
:s
willing to document them, but I can't manage on my own
and google doc
albertux: ther is an example in the admin-> look page
ical is export only
how i know if i can use google plugin ?
and if later, albertux, you could crete that page for the documentation http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginGoogleAnalytics , you would be more than welcome
@albertux: see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wiki+plugins
ricks99: if we can save theical in a webdav folder, I guess that it's not save only ;-)
@albertux: if u are adding to google analytics only to a single page, can use HTML plugin. much simplier
@xavi: but Tiki does not automatically update it. it is a 1 time export
I mean, maybe they already implemented a way to keep ical in a webdav file gallery <- ricks99
ricks99: your answer is for tiki5?
ricks99 where i the html plugin?
havent used in 5 (yet)
albertux, read the documentation
first, and ask then
@albertux: pls see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/pluginhtml
ok ok
*search* is your best friend
if u are new to tiki, i strongy suggest <shameless plug> the beginner's guide: http://twbasics.keycontent.org </shamless plug>
so far every question u asked is in there :)
I read the slides from marclaporte for the confoo presentation today, and I saw interesting things, like the S5jquery presentaion
which I don't know how to use yet, and I couldn't read any documentation yet
@xavi: y. any reason why he choose a different tiki logo?
ricks99: not sure, but I think it's part of his proposal for a new image for Tiki marketing. He is the best one to be asked, anyway
sent him email earlier.
using {html()} plugin doesn't write the full script :S thanks any way
wfm
did u enable the plugin?
ah well
hi on tracker export avec 300 items I got the message Fatal error</b>:  Call to a member function fetchRow() on a non-object in ... is it know problem ? 
oups sorry it fails on 3.2 but works on 4.2
franck: yes
changi:  you subscribed me to a newsletter?
franck: no why ?
its posible to write the chars { } on footer.tpl ?
changi: in private
check your windows...
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26086 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: notice
aayala use {literal}
Good morning everyone
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26087 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: notice
Okay... Hi again lol.    I'm new at being a webadmin and my orginization is using tiki and we're moving to a faster server.   Is there an easy to to migrate all the settings from one to the other or am i'm going to have to copy past all the old articals and such from one to the other?
copy the directories and the database - I think there is a page on this on doc
I found that but the one to copy that database is really really vague
I do have access to myphpadmin on both servers, but no ssh.  is there a way to just export the data since the new site has a tiki install that is working currently.
Athan?
btw, I installed 5.x alpha from svn, and basic install with strasa.css fails (due to minify javascript or css)
I mean, theme was only shown when I disabled them
"fails"= it succeeds, but layout of page is borked, and no theme displayed
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26088 10/trunk/ (8 files in 5 dirs): [NEW]group: option to put automatically at registration or by batch user in a group depending a pattern on their email
perhaps it is a perm on the mimified dirs
good guess, sylvieg, I?ll check
it was a blank new install on dir from svn...
so maybe yes
sylvieg, do you know what does "Dump all tracker items" mean in Tiki5? (beyond export tracker items?)
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r26089 10/branches/5.x/lang/ (46 files in 46 dirs): [MOD] lang folder: clean and homogenize the index.php files in lang folder
I suppose it is jonny's feature
hmm?
jonnyb 's feature?
Sorry it's me again
i have a little trouble
i don;t change anything
yes, it exports big trackers - 10,000+ items
but tiki-admin.php?page=textarea show blank page
jonnyb, in which format? csv? any documentation anywhere?
i couldn't get the existing export fns to stop leaking memory and blowing up
:-)
csv - same as before (except calculated fields are just raw)
anyway, jonny, which settings are you using for that?
geoff promised to do some docs
ah, you use the same user-selected-settings for export as the form abouve?
no settings - just trackerId
the whole lot
charset? char for spliltting cells?...
utf-8
splitting? you mean %%% etc
ok, I'll try and figure it out myself as far as I can reach
I mean: "1";"2";"3"... or
oh = i uses commas and quotes
"1","2","3"...
(as in the C in CSV) ;)
:-)
anyway, for this to be usable for many users (from different O.S, spreadsheets, etc.), we should offer the user to select the charset and the few other settings that are offered for the user at tracker export (the former one)
the created etc timestamps aren't quoted, as they weren't before (out of export)
sure! :D
as it is now it's a bit confusing for end user
(not sure what's the differnce, and why not settings, etc.)
less work (and better performance)
you'll see what comes out soon enough - but yes, there should be some description & help
it;s normal tiki-admin.php?page=textarea show blank page ?
hmm. I just wiped my site and DB, used the community profile, and set up staging. still didnt assign anything to the staging category. 
aayala: sounds like your memory limit
maybe I need to try without the profile
in php.ini - can you change it?
i don't know let me see
im using hostmonster
no, admin/textarea loads all the plugins - there are a lot!
you will most likely need to get them to increase it to 32MB
if its a shared host
thanks jonnydb kwest :S
hope you can change it
if not you could move the plugins you're not using somewhere else
haha, jonny, great stuff that tracker dump. however, dates are not readable for humans :-), and some fields (like static) were missing in the dump, even if they were in the former tracker export. fyi
my host changed mine for me. 32MB is not too unreasonable these days
(that should be on doc.two somewhere)
^ jonnyb, fyi
xavi: the idea is so you can back up big trackers, and move them around
ok, but some info is missing
static text , at least
and %% code are parsed, so that if you import again: is it written into %% again?
ah, ok - also multiingual ones
multilingual? I didn't user multilingual
categories should be tested too
S/user/use
s/%/%%
brrrrr, irc (or bots) are eating on % when I write 3 of them
s/on/one
anyway... I mean: I can provide one tracker export with a few different fields, in csv or .ods, so that differences for end user can be clearly seen (only 20 items, so no issues of memory leakage on neither of them, etc.)
yes, for less than thousands of records use the old export (ajax version, of course ;) )
:-)
but remember that new dump-export forgot the static fields for me
sylvieg: I tried enabling minify css, after setup.sh again, and the site lost theme style again: http://r-help-es.ourproject.org
how can I know if the problem is some missing folder on the server?
activate the firebug or other tool
to see if the js file exists
ok
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26090 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl: [MOD]group: another email pattern example
sylvieg , the minified css and js are there, but with 600
and the webserver cannot read them :-(
it should be in setup.sh...
it's at op.o (gforged site, with mod security, su_php, etc.
should be in setup.sh? how come, if they are created only when I enabled the checkbox at the performance panel?
isn't it some php writing them on the server?
and for some reason, they are getting 600 there (and web user is not the owner of them)
I wouldn't like to attempt to fix myself...
dangerous "irc codding", it was called later on... :-)
s/codding/coding
changi around?
jonnyb, you'll have the same issue whenever you want to install that tiki on c2c.op.o with minify css
minified css and js files are created with 600 perms on the server, and web server can't read them
changi: this ^ comes from a tiki5 alpha from svn (today) installed on a server with mod security and su_php...
most odd - surely it should be the same as the templates_c etc
jonnyb: nope :-) 644
644 at templates_c
I have to go.
ok - bibi
keep up the good work!
:-)
gracias
a pleasure to provide feedback when I can get some time for that
cheers
yep. did another new install, followed the comments on http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki+Page+Staging+and+Approval, and it still doesnt assign anything to the staging category
can anyone verify this as working, becuase i am thinking it is a bug.
i did use any profiles this time either when i installed
i havent upgraded to 4.2 yet. anyone know where i can find a changelog
Xavi:  Je viens de tester ton site.  L'enregistrement fonctionne super bien.  Beau projet que ourproject.org
hi daniam. Xavi left
Gary, Marc and me are back from Confoo
Oups.  Comment ça été la conférence ce matin?  J'ai vos DVD.  Demain, c'est quand le meilleur temps pour passer?
daniam: the talk went well except for a bug a few bugs on trunk and network issues for the demo :/
daniam: cool. you can come tomorrow morning (noon/eleven is good).
daniam: Marc says it would be cool if you came to the dinner tonight (I don't know if I'll be there).
Unless there is a prob.  I'll stop by.
Dinner tonight?  Let me check and get back to you.
daniam: yes, there's a Confoo dinner around 7 PM
Pls give me the coordinates.  I'm not sure.  I'll check and get back to you.
daniam: around 7 PM at Les 3 brasseurs in Old Montreal, then Les 2 pierrots
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3079 - - Categories not assigned - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3079
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26091 10/branches/5.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php: [FIX]tracker: fix #user changed to the username
i finally uploaded tiki to a commercial hosting
but i has only 24 mb in php
will tiki really refuse to work in such condition?
24 is not enough
Weisser: it won't refuse, except for the check for memory (I don't know if that's just a warning or an error) but I would recommend you don't use Tiki in such an environment
it's a commercial hosting, why is the number set so low?
or, in reverse, why does tiki require so much memory?
Weisser: 24 MB is not a lot of memory. just look at your process manager if you're using a desktop from the third millenium...
chealer i know
but 24 mb seems to be a lot for a php script
doing the wiki stuff
Weisser: I don't know many PHP applications at this level, but 128 MB is now a common default for PHP memory limit
but tw is not only a wiki
Weisser: if you want only a wii - there a re plenty of low consuming opensources 
yes, that would be good, but i need a wiki with a decent permissions system
:<
do you happen to know of any?
or perhaps i can try and remove everything i don;t need from tikiwiki, to reduce the requirements?
with permissions like tw - none - tw perms are very very powerful
:<
tw consumes - because it 'loads' a lot of features
Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ .
even if not activated .. there are still a little bit there
sylvieg would it be hard to remove those that i quite obviously don't use?
you can reduce disk space - buit empting the libs - but memory .. is not so simple
try with 24m you will have - pure guess - 80% of tw working
if your php is well set it wil enough (with cache..) but I never saw not expensive shared hostings well set
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r26092 10/branches/5.x/tiki-admin_shoutbox_words.php: [FIX] Admin Shoutbox words (r24932 regression)
a good memry consumption is to delete all the plugins you do not need in lib/wiki-plugins directory
Weisser did you try to change memory limit in .htaccess?
a lot of hostings let you to do so
hmm...
haven't i'll try now
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26093 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: [MOD]group: email pattern assignment only if user is not in the group + set default to this group
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26094 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: oops trace
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26095 10/trunk/tiki-register.php: oops again - will have a lot of oops until tw5 is released
polom
hi chibaguy - i'm about ready for bed - you must be back home now?
hi jonnyb, no, not yet. I've been attending confoo.ca (web techno conference).
I'm going back Sunday morning.
oh ok - thought you were jet lagged or something (zzz)
is good?
heh, actually kinda busy w/ tiki themes.
yak yak
the sessions I went to were good. but I skipped some that I thought I wouldn't get much out of, and did some css stuff.
also walked around montreal a bit.
i applied to do one about jquery in tiki
not walking the dog - but Montreal :-)
how's the weather?
:-) that's right, sylvieg.
the weather has been great.
sunny days and global warming temperatures.
in Boston it is spring - 13 years I am missing spring - but this year I have the same spring I had in France
yes, it's nice for springtimes; I hope the planet will be ok in general.
it is more al nino paterm than global warming
ok, that's good.
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