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chibaguypolom
Something interesting in my local svn branch 5x -- on the Look and Feel admin page, a dropdown list of theme options is displaying even for themes that don't have theme options. The theme options have names like 'X-blue.css' and include every theme option in the installation.
Bona fide theme options show up as usual in the list.
The 'X-themeoption.css' items don't seem to have any effect. Must be a code error that causes them to be listed.
Went back to Opera 9.27 to see if branch 5x javascript would work, hoping the problem was with the kinda buggy Opera 10.51. But doesn't help.
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Opera's having trouble with js in varying degrees at all the tw.o sites, my localhost 5x, and another site that's running branch 5, that I know of to check. [04:50]
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coaboagood morning [04:51]
chibaguyHi coaboa, I was just crying about Tiki 5 not working well with Opera.
Problems with javascript.
Sad, because Opera is so great for working with Tiki - fast page loads, retains textarea content when you need to go back (if editing and then find you're logged out when you submit, etc.)....
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coaboaooops. my brother had a problem from friday to today with t5b1 (zip) with installing correctly but mission most of the functionality (reinstalling from tar.gz arch solved the problem. so either the beta zip is corrupt or he had a corrupted file through downloding.
like opera too. its truly fast.
only thing i can't realy get used to is the email sorting/handling
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chibaguyYes, I tried the email for a short time but didn't like it much.
Well, now I'm having trouble with javascript in Firefox also in svn branch 5x.
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coaboahave a css question: want to have some background image (700* 250px) overlayed with some content from a module (top_pages) but at startpage only. when using box selector it replaces the bg of all mudules. how can i just switch the bg of one modul instance? [05:04]
chibaguyEach module has its own CSS class. You can check the page source for the class name of the module you want to put the background image on.
It'll be hyphenated, like class="box-calendar".
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coaboacool
you are a native engl.speaker, aren't you?
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chibaguyyes [05:08]
coaboathe main project i'am working right now (beside my daughter ;-)) is a platform for authors of writen engl. with an interesting approach. We are searching for people who might like to test and give feedback what we can improve. As I maybe switch to 5.0 (if ready befor 21. apr.) you might find it interesting and could additional give valuable feedback (as most of planed tester never used a wiki befor) [05:13]
chibaguyOk, if I have time I will try. [05:16]
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coaboaonly if. Think could be fun for you and wouldn't take much time (accept you start reading the content ;-)) Main question to somebody like you would be "do you like the concept?" which could be answered in a couple of minutes. So I'll "bother" you with that again when we are inviting our testers. bbl [05:21]
chibaguyOk.
Hmm, I wonder why HTML tags work in wikitext when Allow HTML is not turned on.
feature or bug?
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Whichever, it's the case in branch 4 and 3 also.
(I tried with h3 tags, nothing else yet.)
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CIA-59tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26583 10/branches/5.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: [MOD] Typo
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26584 10/branches/5.x/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] French trad
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Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: Continuation of Blog Text centering immediately in 4.2 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36870 [10:08]
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ricks99hi all :-) [10:24]
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coaboaHi [10:34]
ricks99hi coaboa [10:35]
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Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: Seeing links that need pages - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=36871 [11:00]
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jcoelho!help [11:16]
Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [11:16]
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CIA-59tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26585 10/branches/5.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] BLOB and TEXT columns cannot have default values [11:31]
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tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26586 10/branches/5.x/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] French trads [11:56]
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26587 10/branches/5.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]db: same order of fields between upgrade and new db [12:02]
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tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r26588 10/branches/5.x/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] French typo [12:27]
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26589 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-site_header_options.tpl: [FIX]logo: restore logo for anonymous on fresh install [12:34]
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Kimberleehello all. [12:48]
ricks99hi Kimberlee [12:57]
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Weisserhi, how do i find a list of all orphaned pages in a wiki? [13:16]
ricks99@Weisser: use the list orphan pages function [13:20]
Weisserhow do i?
:o
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ricks99Wiki > List Orphan Pages
Pls see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Using+Wiki+Pages
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Weisserhmm wich feature do i enable in order to see this function? [13:21]
ricks99"List Orphan Pages" [13:21]
Weissergosh ;p am i blind or what [13:23]
ricks99On Admin: Wiki, look at the Page Listing tab.
Pls see docs for full details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki+Config
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coaboawhat does the "tra" in a line like "'name' => tra('Topics expression')" stands for? [14:04]
ricks99translate. tiki will display the text "Topics expression" in the users language, based on the language.php [14:06]
coaboacool thx [14:07]
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CIA-59tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26590 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Make trackerlist plugin work inside a pretty tracker template.
tikiwiki: Added as a new "inside_pretty" parameter to avoid breaking existing data for extra safety.
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jonnybpolom
sylvieg: if you're about (and have some time) could you review the commit i just made to make trackerlist work in pretty trackers please?
would be nice to backport it to 5.x if it's a good fix (because it doesn't work at the moment)
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ricks99ATTN Tiki Admin: did something change on the servers? URLs like http://tikiwiki.org/article85 are no longer resolviing correctly to info.tw.o
getting a feautre disabled error (from community tw.o site)
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CIA-59tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r26591 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Pretty trackerlist - self:: doesn't always seem to resolve so use TrackerLib:: directly [15:09]
Tikiwiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3110 - - Click twice on "Preview" in tiki-view_forum_thread results ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3110 [15:21]
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CIA-59tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26592 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl: [FIX]layout: replace br with clearfix in order not to have space at the top [16:03]
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quodilinWhat permissions do I need to set to get images to be visible to registered users on wiki pages? As admin I can see them, but as registered user I can't (v 4.1)
I am really new to this software
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ricks99to view a page, need VIEW permission
pls see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/permission
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quodilinthank you [16:42]
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CIA-59tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26594 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/cookies.php: [FIX]cookie: typo [17:20]
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CIA-59tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26595 10/branches/5.x/lib/prefs/ (wikiplugin.php wikiplugininline.php): [ENH] Removing redundant words making some words impossible to search
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r26596 10/branches/5.x/doc/devtools/lessermagicreport.php: [NEW] Script to generate a report of dynamic preferences highlighting bad descriptions
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RavenCTiki 5.0Beta1 - Fresh install: Anyone experience a successful install with one little exception... no graphical format ? The page comes up, but looks like it's html only. For instance, the titlebar has the quick admin, text under saying Site Logo, admin|logout... all as standard text links
admin / general .... the graphics come up for the general and settings button, etc.... under general, the basic "boxes" are there for like release check, etc.... however, no columns, etc....
the sidebar menu comes up at the bottom of the page... lol
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ricks99did u clear cache? [18:28]
RavenCjust did... same
came up that way from the "successful install"
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ricks99did u install from fresh directory? or existing files in templates_c from an earlier install? [18:29]
RavenCall fresh
really strange
ricks - if you want to see odd... http://dev.kronosdata.net/tiki/tiki-index.php
:)
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ricks99downloading now... [18:32]
RavenCkk [18:32]
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RavenCHi Kimberlee :) [18:40]
CaarrieRavenC: have you tried turning off minified css? [18:43]
RavenCCaarrie, I'm not certain where that setting is [18:44]
KimberleeHiya Raven! :) [18:44]
RavenCthink my php.ini is blah... sec [18:45]
Caarriei am not sure where it is, but i heard there are some bugs in it [18:46]
RavenCok, I'll look for it. Thanks :) [18:46]
Caarrieif you check your source you find it is looking for a css at http://dev.kronosdata.net/tiki/temp/public/minified_74bc28114006257824a5f3e51207c0c4.css, i dont see that exists [18:47]
RavenCaaah
ok
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CaarrieRavenC: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Minify+css?bl=y [18:50]
RavenCCaarrie: Thanks so much' [18:51]
Caarrieyw [18:51]
RavenCthat did it! thank you thank you thank you.... [18:53]
Caarriegreat [18:53]
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RavenCIs that a default setting on a clean install ? [18:53]
Caarrieno idea [18:53]
RavenCok... I will document it on my installation docs [18:54]
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PolisMemRitualishello can I export categories to a csv? Found import but did not see export. Version 5.0b1 [19:33]
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CIA-59tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r26597 10/branches/5.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: field like itemId, user, group must be fetched even if not seen - will probably rollback 26395 [20:56]
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Gergelysylvie wrote in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginTrackerList&structure=Documentation that the trackerlist plugin will allow a fieldId(x,y) reference in the exactvalue parameter. Is it included in the TW5beta1 just released? I cannot get it working. [21:11]
sylviegwas working 3weeks ago - perhaps it is broken now... [21:12]
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sylviegsylvieg should have not do the last tracker optimization - it breaks too many things... [21:13]
GergelyActually, I am not sure if it is broken, I have not ever seen it working. I will try a little more. [21:17]
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TreblyTo everybody -> from three various computers (on windows), the request on trackers (Bugs and wishes menu in dev.tikiwiki.org) reaches mainly to the "System error screen" with "Query error (if more than one selection in the query). Tested on 5 various computers... message let fives days ago. Nobody seems have any reaction.
Updated : To everybody -> from five various computers (3 on windows, 2 on linux), the request on trackers (Bugs and wishes menu in dev.tikiwiki.org) reaches mainly to the "System error screen" with "Query error (if more than one selection in the query). Tested on 5 various computers... message let fives days ago. Nobody seems have any reaction.
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sylviegwhich request? [22:18]
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sylviegdid you set up a bug tracker on 5 servers?
for me for instance search on 5.x and trackers is workign on dev.tw
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TreblySimply the one generated by the request panel by tikiwiki when you submit : "Bugs and wishes" or "List yours"
to silivieg (crossed) simply connecting on the dev site to http://dev.tikiwiki.org even not logged in
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TreblyBecause nobody had answered and I began when I discover that that can't reach my "bugs and wishes" by "list yours" neither search anything, I used the chat. Even there were not any relation with the computer and the system, nevertheless I made the test on 5 computers. [22:27]
sylvieg5 computers?
do you mean 5 brownsers?
ort do you have a dump of the dev database?
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TreblyYes, I have three here, and I sent message to friend asking to make the test. They get the same as me. [22:29]
sylviegtthere is a bug in the 'My stuff...' I am waiting for a svn up to fix it
I do not have a phpmyadmion on this siste so I can not repair the database
but iof you submit a bug before these last 3 weeks it should be ok
- what is your problem with search bugsd
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TreblyIt is the main database of the dev.tikiwiki site. This is not my job to manage it. In my opinion the problem comes from the query generation. The error panel (I have developped one special for my test on my computers... not the subject here) seems that the problem comes from the asc (ascendind, descending) SQL command [22:33]
sylviego it is a problem on the server - and as nothing to do with your n tests [22:35]
TreblyBecause of this problem which appears with the new "look". I can't access any of my "bugs and wishes" only take the full list... I have not the reference number and there no search (but I now how to redact an http query to access a particular referred "bugs". But as when you create it you have not yet the reference... [22:38]
sylviegok - a bug was introduced ... I will delete the option 'My bugs' until I have access to the database to fix it
ok done - no more list MY stuff - unitl I have access to the database
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TreblyYes it comes from the dev.tikiwiki server. I completely agree. So all users should have exactly the same problem since five days. Why I made the test form various computers, I don't took the time to go to the source page. Often the query is partially generated by ajax, so if there is a problem on a computer, a various on the same system, it is frequently necessary to make a restart and test...
...to be sure.
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sylviegbut Trebly - do you have ttrouble with 'Search Bugs' ?
btw there is no ajax at teh trackerfilter plugin level
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TreblyI had in a few occasions, problems with js (shaked to mush) which was creating a "post" data structure error and generating a wrong query (This had been the opportunity to had checks on post data's)... [22:46]
sylviegthere is no ajax /js stuff in the bug tracker in dev
the only alax used is with dynamic item list field and there is no such field in the dev.tw.org bug tracker
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TreblyYes I have seen since that there was no ajax in. So I can affirm that "Bugs and wishes":"search" crashes with the well known panel "SYSTEM ERROR" with the nature and relative text : query error.... [22:50]
sylviegwith which seach - I have no problem now
so either you queries when the server was 'bad' or you have a query/search filter that crashed the server
what did you friends enter?
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TreblyThis is the problem. I have tested may be fifteen queries, when I submit "bugs error" and "4.x" I have the error. It seems that with just one selection it functions
The query generator is in php on the server
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sylviegsearch on 4.x only is ok with me - Is it buggy now? [22:54]
TreblyA friend had the same result from another place with a linux installation.... [22:54]
Gergelyhi, let me give a scenario for this topic:
search for feutre trackers
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sylviegthe errror comes from the server - as no ajax involved - so... you do not need to ask a friend [22:54]
Gergelythen sort by date [22:54]
sylviegok this is one - seach on date on trackerlfilter [22:55]
Gergelyit does not give an error, while it does not give you any results: all the records disappear [22:55]
sylviegyes it forgot the search params [22:56]
TreblyYes but it was before I look at the page source [22:56]
sylvieg+! for Gergely
ned to download again the dev db
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TreblyTo Gergely and silvieg : there no sort option. The menu item "list yours" has disappeared. The problem remains [22:58]
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Gergelyjust reproduced the sql crash [23:00]
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sylviegTrebly: I tok away the option - because I fixed the bug one hour agao - and if I have no access to the database I can not fix the database - [23:00]
GergelyI think it must be with the any field unchecked [23:00]
holff>help [23:01]
Sug4r`(help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [23:01]
GergelyTry: 3.x 4.x 5..x checked, any unchecked. patches checked, any unchecked [23:02]
sylviegok I have a db error - I will download the db - and fix it pretty soon [23:03]
TreblyTo Gergely, yes allright, this is my experienced problem, but it is sure that for being selective it needs not to check the "any" [23:03]
sylviegthx Gergely [23:03]
Gergelynothing to thank. I will not fix it :) [23:04]
sylviegthx for noticing and have a clear description / scenario descriptioj of the problem [23:04]
holffI have a problem with creating a dynamic items list in a tracker - help appreciated - can't get it to work [23:05]
TreblyOk good job I have reached the point of the known fact. [23:05]
Tikiwiki|botInfo: TikiWiki Announces Tiki 5.0 Beta - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article89-TikiWiki-Announces-Tiki-5-0-Beta [23:06]
Gergely@holff : check out http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=3108. If this is your issue, you can vote for it. [23:11]
sylviegsomebody broke the menu this week end . When on strasa mouseover admin - nothing appears [23:12]
Treblyto silieg : there is another important problem, much more, I made a "bug and wishes" (but the lasts dys I could not...). The problem is very simple : when you readact a "homepage" defined for a group, homepage of which title contains an " '" as in french "Page d'accueil" the prefs contain this title and it is saved into cache and participate to session init. As the " ' " is not escaped the...
...init query from cache crashes. Completely tested. This problem seems to be heavy. This because the lonely stable (for stability of code) solution in my opinion should be to store the titles with escaped " ' ". so to stabilize the whole code is to manage all the cases (too the queries and sort on titles of articles and wiki etc...). At the end only have escaped " ' " in text that can be...
...used for queries...
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holff@Gergely - tx but that seems more complicated - cannot even make the simplest example work - seem to mis something [23:16]
sylviegGergely: I am also on this problem 3108 - it is on my list [23:18]
Gergely@sylvieg: oh. great. please also read the comments. I did some debugging already. [23:19]
sylviegsylvieg tried too do to many optimization on tracker - because people went for more than 4000 fields - and it was not build for this at the beginning .. [23:19]
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Gergelyone can do a work-around with multi-step input, I guess. [23:21]
sylviegGergely: I think you find a problem I did not find out ..
perhaps it will be great to attache the dump of your tracker
to be able to reproduce
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holffanother stupid question: how do I find out which version of tikiwiki I am running from within the Tikiwiki environmnent [23:24]
sylviegdynamic list item was a feature written by one guy - works fine for a --- long--- time
but with the js reformatting - perhaps it is bad now
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holff@sylvieg: it is a potentially important thing because it makes trackers into a relational database [23:25]
GergelyFine. I will add it later. [23:26]
sylviegholff: if you download - changelog.txt
it you svn svn info
bbl
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holff@sylvieg can you explain that a bit? how do I download changelog.txt
also - does anyone know if the field one links to with the dynamic list item needs to be a dropdown field (as in the example) or can it be a text field as well?
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holffneed to go to bed - tx everyone [23:32]
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