#tikiwiki 2010-05-14,Fri

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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r27171 10/trunk/lib/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] fix some javascript formatting, quality.tikiwiki.org	[00:05]
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ricks99	upgraded from 4.2 -> 5.0rc1. Tiki has disabled all my plugins (JS, TAG, etc.) that were approved and working in 4.2 o.. maybe not. disregard. my bad	[00:42]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27172 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php: [FIX] Pretty tracker items need to be compiled for each item to reparse field values correctly	[10:58]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27173 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [FIX] No need to fail here if no fields specified as it will use all of them	[11:08]
ricks99	hi all :-)	[11:09]
jonnyb	hi ricks99	[11:09]
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ricks99	hi jonnyb	[11:10]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27174 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_addtocart.php: [ENH] Several fixes and enhancements for Add To Cart plugin, especially for use with pretty trackers tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27175 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-cart.tpl: [ENH] Cosmetic improvememnts to cart module. Also keep other form params when submitting updates	[11:10]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27176 10/trunk/ (. tiki-read_article.php): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27165 to 27169	[11:30]
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Weisser	hi i want to turn off CSRF detection however there seems to be no corresponding option in admin>general ok, i found it	[11:41]
ricks99	pls see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Login+Config	[11:44]
Weisser	Is there any way to see detail of a group without a list of groups above it? Is this configurable?	[11:53]
ricks99	You mean other then from the Admin: Groups page?	[11:55]
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ricks99	There are several group-related plugins that you can use instead	[11:59]
	hm... logo missing on tw.o community site	[12:05]
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RavenC	hello everyone	[12:25]
ricks99	hi RavenC	[12:26]
Weisser	ok i finally found a clue if i create a blog Croatia to which group "Embassy to Croatia" has right to post and read and i let every registered user to have permission to post in general members of EtC has acces to posting page however once i repeat the process for USA, a member of both groups is denied access to page it's odd behaviour, maybe you could tell me what could be the problem? (i was using object permissions this time)	[12:27]
ricks99	Object perms will override Group and Category perms...	[12:29]
Weisser	yes i know, so what? i have two objects to which i have both write access	[12:29]
ricks99	So, if using Object perms, you must explicity grant all necessary perms to each group...	[12:30]
Weisser	ok ok ok i know and so i did	[12:30]
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Weisser	look, when everything is workng now, as long as the user has access to one blog only if, without doing any change to the first blog, i add another, the access is lost i did so with two blogs with perms assigned to two different groups i will now try to create two blogs belonging to the same group adn see what happens	[12:30]
ricks99	Did you remember to clear the Tiki cache?	[12:31]
Weisser	oh, right, i'll try btw, can the cache be disabled for the time i am making administrative changes?	[12:32]
ricks99	ricks99 Is not sure what the problem is. I have multiple blogs; some groups have access to only some blogs, etc. You can disable the wiki cache, but the Smarty caching is automatic (AFAIK)	[12:33]
Weisser	it's either i am doing something illogical, or i found illogical behaviour on tikiwiki side i am now trying to rule out the first :3 ok, i got even better testcase a user that is not admin is unable to access the posting page if he has right to post in multiple blogs	[12:34]
ricks99	Are the blogs marked as private? Do you have the "allow other users to post" option enabled? I have many non-admin users who can post to different blogs	[12:37]
Weisser	enabled - as soon as i disable it in any of the two, the posting page is accesible - the user is able to post in one blog only this seems very strange	[12:37]
ricks99	If the blog is private then other users cannot post. you need to disable it	[12:39]
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Weisser	"allow other users to post" is enabled this is what i mean omfg O.O but hmmmm no i dont think this is the case with blogs	[12:39]
RavenC	I've never used the blogs feature, so I wasn't certain.	[12:41]
Weisser	i know what you write about yeah, i created a custom menu and noticed the tip that explained what you talk about	[12:41]
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ricks99	thres's an option for that in admin:category. something like "user must belong to all grpups"	[12:42]
Weisser	blogs use permissions system and for breif moment i thought you mean that if i select two groups in permission menu, then it's different than if i dselec t one, set permissions and select another :p btw	[12:42]
ricks99	The only thing I can think of is that you're overriding the the perms with a blog-specific perm	[12:42]
Weisser	if i a person can't read a blog, it'd be nice if that blog did not apear on blog listing what do you think?	[12:42]
ricks99	That's what the list perm is for Liting, Reading,and Writing are all differnt perms	[12:43]
Weisser	but it's not in the blog section, or is it? :o	[12:43]
ricks99	Plus there's a Category view/browse/etc perm	[12:43]
Weisser	i am not using categories this time in fact, it's the object perms that allow the user to post to a blog	[12:44]
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ricks99	You're not using categories?	[12:44]
Weisser	yes, this time i am not using them	[12:44]
ricks99	oh....	[12:45]
RavenC	RavenC is totally helpless with blogs... :(	[12:45]
Weisser	i am using object permissions since the beginning	[12:45]
ricks99	ok. But that is going to get very mesy very quickly	[12:45]
Weisser	i decided so after yesterday failure - i do't really need categories here no, actually each blog is assigned to one group and that's all	[12:45]
ricks99	That means you are basically going to have "custom" perms for every single blog	[12:45]
Weisser	yes, however there is no big risk that i will need to change the permissions also, without using categories i rule out a possible problem once i have the blogs working with object permissions, i may later move to category permissions	[12:46]
ricks99	What do you mean "assigned each blog to one group"? AFAIK, there's no such feature to assign objects to groups. That's what categories are for	[12:47]
Weisser	i meant abstract	[12:47]
ricks99	OK. So....	[12:47]
Weisser	each blog is readable by a general group "trustworthy" and writeble by specific group "X embassy" and this is not likely to change in a while	[12:47]
ricks99	For your global perms, the Registered group has post and read perm...	[12:48]
Weisser	only post	[12:48]
ricks99	Thats the problem	[12:48]
Weisser	hmmm ok, ill try with read	[12:48]
ricks99	You need this..... 1. Give Registered Read and Post	[12:48]
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ricks99	2. Group A inherits Registered 3. For Blog A (which only group A should post)...	[12:48]
Weisser	can i use Group "embassy" that is inherited by every speicif " x embassy" ?	[12:49]
ricks99	assign Post 4. Now all users can read blog A, but only Gropu A can post	[12:49]
Weisser	can i use Group "embassy" that is inherited by every speicif " x embassy" instead of Registerd here?	[12:50]
ricks99	Y, but you are thinking of the perms backwards... You grant globally, then restrict specificlly	[12:51]
Weisser	:f	[12:51]
ricks99	Perms inherit upwards not downwards Tiki follows a tree model -- not a root model	[12:51]
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Wssr	Ok, so i have a group "croatian embassy" that inherits from "embassy" "embassy" has R&P global permissions	[12:54]
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Wssr	correct permissions for blog Croatia would be "croatian embassy" can Post ?	[12:55]
ricks99	and read	[12:55]
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ricks99	and u want other groups to be able to red? *read?	[12:56]
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Wssr	yes actually a group "trustworthy" so that ambassador can read his own blog, obviously + all other blogs after he is already working for some time	[12:57]
ricks99	OK, then you are going to have to explicity add that too, to the object perms. This is the advantage of using categories. You don't ahve to explicity set perms for each and every group -- just for the category	[12:58]
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Wssr	honestly... this is what i did before you told me to do that :D so i suppose i did everything correctly if i do that for one blog A1, it's all fine once i repeat it for a blog A2, the user that has acces to both of them suddenly is denied access to posting page	[12:59]
ricks99	Don't know. sorry. You should try posting to the support forum	[13:01]
Wssr	:F i guess you're right i will also try reading the code maybe it will enligthen me :F	[13:01]
ricks99	have ur reviewd all the perm docs?	[13:01]
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ricks99	The examples are very good and do a good job of explaining	[13:02]
Wssr	hmm, but honestly ricks if i has access to A how can adding an independent B deny me access to A it's not a trivial problem with permissions, tough maybe - just maybe - they are involved	[13:02]
ricks99	don't know. As I said, i have lots of blogs with multiple perms allowed to post and it works as expected	[13:04]
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Wssr	i know, blogs are a stable feature thats very frustrating - it may mean i will need to reinstall the whole base	[13:04]
ricks99	Of course, I use categories	[13:04]
Wssr	i think,. quite obviously, the problem is in how posting page determines if you should be granted access	[13:05]
ricks99	by perms	[13:07]
Wssr	i need to find out how it does it, and then i will be able to adjust my ways with permissions well, of course, but i need to know exactly what it checks	[13:07]
ricks99	review the docs	[13:07]
Wssr	if it checks if there exists any blog tat the user can post to, then it can be quite power-hungry process unless it's cached but i think a corrupt cache can be rule out, i already made a few tests that contradict this idea	[13:08]
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sylvieg	horizontal phplayers menu are broken in 5. Do we fix? Or do we say use css?	[13:50]
Wssr	anyone here familiar with tiki-blog_post.php file?	[13:55]
marclaporte	well, if easy to fix we need to ditch but it's still used in a few places (ex.: cat browser or something)	[13:55]
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ricks99	can't ditch phplayers without at least annoucing it first	[14:01]
sylvieg	seems that it is layermenu-header.ijs that it is not executed - no idea what is a ijs file...	[14:01]
ricks99	Q: for new TIki5 install, minify JS and CSS is on by default?	[14:03]
RavenC	I think so Ricks. I've had to disable every time	[14:04]
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RavenC	on the RC1 install yesterday, minify JS, but not CSS were defaults	[14:05]
ricks99	k. Is mimify js "ready for prime time"? have seen some issues disussed in the forums	[14:06]
sylvieg	RavenC: is correct	[14:06]
RavenC	not certain if it is my implementation on Win/IIS or not, but I had to uncheck minify JS and minify CSS to function correctly.	[14:07]
ricks99	y. thats what i was thinking. should it be "off" by default to minimize potential issues?	[14:08]
RavenC	would get my vote... :)	[14:09]
Wssr	strange, where can be the function $bloglib->list_blogs_user_can_post() defined :o it's not in lib/blog/bloglib.php	[14:10]
ricks99	@RavenC: me too. I thnk we need to minimize potential issues as much as possible. @Wssr: tikilib maybe? Try grep	[14:11]
Wssr	umm right, i'll grep it	[14:12]
RavenC	Wsr: on my 5.0 install, I found the string in tiki-blog_post.php	[14:13]
Wssr	and only there? this is where it's used i need to find out how it works	[14:13]
RavenC	that is the only place agent ransack found it. Of course, I do not have any blogs set up, so I am not certain if it would be listed elsewhere or not	[14:13]
Wssr	i'll grep for "list_blogs_user_can_post" alone ok, it;s defined in tikilib.php i assume this: "$ret[] = $res;" copies $res to $ret as a new array, right?	[14:14]
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Wssr	nah, i mean row :f	[14:25]
sylvieg	aha a javascript expert visiting :-)	[14:25]
Wssr	user in tiki_blogs is probably the "creator"? (i am referring to db now)	[14:28]
jonnyb	oooh! javascript expert - goody! (hi sylvieg)	[14:30]
sylvieg	:-) do you have a clue about the phplayers menu? what is a ijs file?	[14:30]
Wssr	Institute of Joseph Stalin	[14:34]
jonnyb	hmm, never heard of ijs and phplayers is obsolete (and very hairy)	[14:37]
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sylvieg	more that hairy...	[14:41]
RavenC	could the .ijs reference be a typo for a .js (thinking out loud)	[14:44]
chealer	file extension IJS - J Interpretor Script File File extension IJS description: The ijs file extension is associated with J, a modern, high-level, general-purpose, high-performance programming language, developed by JSofttware.	[14:45]
jonnyb	coo! polom chealer	[14:45]
chealer	RavenC: depending on what's in it and how tested (or untested) it is.	[14:46]
marclaporte	note to self: never use the word "modern" in a Tiki marketing bit	[14:46]
chealer	hi jonnyb hi marclaporte. what's the problem?	[14:46]
sylvieg	hi	[14:46]
chealer	oh. I don't know what it is, but it's not just JS	[14:48]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27177 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] turn off Minify javascript by default as some report some issues in certain setups, and slowness at the last step of the installer. Idea: make a high performance profiles, which activates all this	[14:49]
chealer	but that's not J so I don't know	[14:52]
sylvieg	the ijs in tiki4 is expansed at the end of the html - but it is not in tiki5 the ijs interpreted code in not there in the source in tiki5	[14:53]
chealer	phplayers has a README.ihtml several smart extensions	[14:55]
sylvieg	I am wrong the code is there..	[14:57]
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ricks99	are we deprecating phplayers in 5.0 (for removal in 6.0)? if so, i'll add to 5.0 release notes	[15:12]
TonyOlivero	Hi all. If anyone can clue me in on what, I'm guessing, permission setting i messed up I would appreciate it. Created a tracker, assigned it to a category almost all (no admin or rating) perms for Trackers. When I try to Insert an item I only see the radio buttons for "view inserted item" or "insert a new item" and not the fields I added to the tracker. Any help would be appreciated.	[15:12]
ricks99	very important info to let folks know	[15:12]
marclaporte	ricks99 : +1	[15:13]
ricks99	@marclaporte: others? i know there's a list of 'endangered features' but r they really 2 b removed in 6.0?	[15:14]
sylvieg	we can not deprecated in 5 because it is still use in categ and fgal explorer :-( but will be in 6 the code is painful	[15:15]
ricks99	so deprecate in 6 and remove in 7? (usually u deprecate 1 full release prior to removal)	[15:16]
sylvieg	+1 for that except if somebody takes time to chaeg categs and fgal	[15:16]
ricks99	so the current issue with the phplayers not working for horiz will b resolved for 5.0?	[15:17]
sylvieg	I am on this since this morning with no success - will spend another hour and will give up	[15:18]
ricks99	tx sylvieg. ricks99 thinks tiki5 is gonna b sweet @TonyOlivero: Any specific perms assigned to the tracker? They will override global and category perms	[15:18]
TonyOlivero	@rricks99 No, only global/category.	[15:22]
ricks99	What is your tiki version?	[15:22]
TonyOlivero	4.1 I believe.	[15:23]
ricks99	look @ admin: General page	[15:23]
TonyOlivero	Happy to beat my admins into an update if that owuld help :-)	[15:23]
ricks99	definately.. 4.2 has some important security fixes	[15:24]
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TonyOlivero	Yeah, 4.1	[15:25]
ricks99	For the tracker fields, do you have any of the "Field is hidden" opentsion enabled? *options	[15:25]
TonyOlivero	I believe only one. And that was the field I created to satisfy the "option creator needs a field of user select..." Which, I must admit I don't fully understand that sentence.	[15:26]
ricks99	You need to make a tracker field of type: User Select Anyway... Are you attempting to enter the tracker data via the Tracker page, or from a wiki page with the TRACKER plugin?	[15:27]
TonyOlivero	Tracker page.	[15:28]
ricks99	This is a brand new tarcker, right? no items in it yet?	[15:30]
TonyOlivero	That is correct.	[15:30]
ricks99	You said that you're using categories? Does the user belong to a group that has perm to create/view/insert tracker items?	[15:31]
TonyOlivero	Yes.	[15:31]
ricks99	Hm.... Are you using the "Items can be created only during a certain time" option? Make sure that you have allowed tracker items to be created	[15:31]
marclaporte	luciash: polom	[15:32]
TonyOlivero	No, the date options are not checked. And I see the Insert item link, which brings up the form, but only shows the radio buttons for what I want to do after submitting the item, no data fields for entry. They do ppear if I'm logged in as admin, which is what me think perm, but I don't know where.	[15:33]
ricks99	OK. it works as admin? Do you have specif perms assigne dto the tracker?	[15:35]
luciash	polom marclaporte: moloq	[15:35]
marclaporte	luciash: hehe logo on dev is not right even with latest svn. What needs to happen? it's because of top menu?	[15:36]
luciash	yes you need to add that custom code with margin-top: 0	[15:36]
TonyOlivero	The tracker shows "no individual permissions"	[15:36]
ricks99	@marclaporte: logo on community is missing entirely	[15:36]
luciash	copy from profiles.tw.o marclaporte: copy it from profiles.tw.o i also changed "Documentation" to "Docs" in the menu so it fits	[15:36]
marclaporte	hehe	[15:38]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r27178 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Minor typo/wording	[15:40]
ricks99	@luciash: how about "Guide" or "Manual" instead? ricks99 hates abbrevisations	[15:41]
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ricks99	@TonyOlivero: I'm not sure. If Admin can add items, then it is a perm issue somewhere	[15:42]
TonyOlivero	@rricks99 Thanks. I'll go back to perm huning. :-) hunting	[15:44]
ricks99	you are 100% that the fields are not marked as hidden?	[15:44]
TonyOlivero	Just the one. The rest show "not hidden"	[15:44]
ricks99	out of ideas. sorry. :(	[15:45]
TonyOlivero	no worries. I appreciate the help	[15:46]
ricks99	bummer. I am 0-2 today. :-(	[15:47]
luciash	ricks99: it's not exactly that, Docs is most common link amongst software on the web sites or Documentation	[15:48]
ricks99	on the dev site? the last stats I looked at GET CODE was #1, and HELLO WORLD was #2 very few clicks at all on the very top menu (site selector)	[15:51]
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ricks99	i think CHAT shoul be moved under MORE (since it doesnt' really give you a chat interaface, just the logs) but again, very few visitors even use that very top menu	[15:54]
RavenC	RavenC probably all of the top menu hits are me (I use it all the time)	[16:00]
jonnyb	you there sylvieg? in {trackerfilter}, if you have displayList="y" and noflipflop="y" shouldn't the filters appear? (otherwise it's just a {trackerlist})	[16:00]
marclaporte	http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php why is browser title with duplicate info? Community : Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - community site : Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - community site	[16:00]
sylvieg	jonnyb yes I understand now why the php menu do not work - but no idea how to fixit	[16:01]
xavi	toctoc hi all	[16:01]
jonnyb	jolly good - i'll fix it (was just wondering if it was a "feature" :) ) polom xavi	[16:01]
xavi	got your email we'll skype (or bbb :-) in short this afternoon (in 30 mins?)	[16:01]
marclaporte	bbb is working fine!	[16:02]
jonnyb	ok, smashing	[16:02]
xavi	maybe luciash wants to join the talk? about the c2c.op.o site and dev.tw.o/cc project	[16:02]
jonnyb	bbb audio now working?	[16:03]
marclaporte	yes, server was rebooted, should work now I tested earlier and I could connect with my VOIP phone	[16:03]
jonnyb	that usually does it! and headset?	[16:03]
xavi	marclaporte, and is chat (from bbb chat) logged already?	[16:04]
marclaporte	ricks99 : thanks for looking at stats! One day, we'll have a feature where menu items change spots automagically based on clicjs no, you need to copy paste before you leave	[16:04]
xavi	ok	[16:05]
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sylvieg	I give up the plm menus	[16:07]
jonnyb	i did a few tikis ago :)	[16:07]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27179 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [FIX] trackerfliter: show filters if displayList and noflipflop at the same time	[16:07]
marclaporte	nuke plm! code from 2004!	[16:08]
ricks99	@sylvieg: if phplayers are not working in 5.0 (but we expect to fix for 5.1) can u add as a known issue in release notes?	[16:08]
sylvieg	I do not know how to fix it without touching the plm lib	[16:08]
jonnyb	we should have a discussion about tiki6 - what should go - plm definitely, image gals... any others? i'm thinking we should KIL them soon, then people will fix up the missing bits and work out migration docs etc	[16:09]
ricks99	babelsfish options	[16:09]
jonnyb	oh yes, that's ancient	[16:10]
ricks99	in i18n admin page	[16:10]
jonnyb	does it work?	[16:10]
ricks99	kinda. but not very well need a list of features to deprecate in 5 & kill in 6	[16:10]
jonnyb	there's the google one now too - is it the same sort of thing?	[16:10]
ricks99	+/- need to kill the non-mysql search too ricks99 never fully understood why there are 2 different search types	[16:11]
jonnyb	indeed but replacing with lucene seems like a good plan (but for 6? i don't know)	[16:12]
ricks99	clean out old modules, too. calendar vs. calendar new, search vs. search box vs. search box new etc maybe make a list and deprecate in 5.1 (if we have 5.1 relatively soon)	[16:12]
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ricks99	@jonnyb: the Admin: Site Ad should also be removed. Should simply use banner function instead.	[16:16]
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jonnyb	can you start a new list on dev.two pls ricks99?	[16:18]
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jonnyb	there was one called "move to mods" or something from 3.x days	[16:18]
ricks99	i think its already on the roadmap page... checking... will add a "proposed deprecation in 5.0" section http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Endangered+Feature	[16:18]
jonnyb	8) can anyone remember the firefox addon where you can capture a form input for analysis? i used to have it but can't find it now	[16:24]
marclaporte	now, there is even "endangered on mods"!	[16:26]
chealer	jonnyb: you're not thinking about Live HTTP Headers, perhaps?	[16:26]
jonnyb	i think it was FormFox, but it's not for 3.6 i'll try a search for headers	[16:27]
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luciash	heheh, noflipflop is really a param ?	[16:49]
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luciash	luciash thinks the AAAAARGH code (plms) should be disabled at least in fresh installs of Tiki 5 already xavi: sorry, was afk (dinner) and i think i cannot make it today to bbb	[16:52]
xavi	luciash, ok in 10 min, jonnyb, in skype, then?	[16:53]
jonnyb	yup - rrwr (ring ring when ready)	[16:55]
xavi	xavi still grading students (final grades, finally, for one course) ok	[16:55]
jonnyb	i'm around and doing your stuff all evening, so no rush	[16:55]
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marclaporte	jonnyb and lindon_ : http://www.openvideoconference.org/ in New York around Tiki6 time	[16:57]
jonnyb	coo - grants for travel - i'll put in an application	[16:58]
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jonnyb	marclaporte: i was just thinking... new tiki logo, must mean new tiki t-shirts - when's the next 'fest? :)	[17:03]
marclaporte	hehe as soon as someone organizes one rumors are Ottawa in August and New York in October marclaporte looks forward to the new t-shirts	[17:04]
lindon_	ny in and around the weekend of october 16th	[17:07]
jonnyb	hi lindon_ - openvideoconference.org is 1-2 october	[17:08]
lindon_	jonnyb: better to do the fest right after? from oct 3	[17:09]
jonnyb	would be good for me - especially if i can get them to pick up even part of the flight cost	[17:10]
marclaporte	awesome Jonny!	[17:11]
lindon_	jonnyb: you can stay with us during the conference if you'd like	[17:12]
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jonnyb	that would be great lindon_ - thanks	[17:12]
lindon_	cuts off part of the weekend for the fest, but i guess that's okay	[17:13]
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sylvieg	has somebody an idea if there is a function like access->check_permission with the new Perms in tiki-payment there is a access->redirect but I do like it	[17:52]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27180 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW]tracker: command to move an item from a tracker to another: copy only the fields that have same name,type,option(will not work if 2 fields have the same name in the first tracker	[20:06]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27181 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: limit item move to admin - as it is mainly used for correcting people who register in the wrong tracker	[20:36]
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RavenC	have a great weekend everyone!	[20:59]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27182 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-i18n.tpl: [MOD] copy a setting to i18n admin panel, because it's also relevant there	[21:41]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27183 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-bot_bar.tpl: [MOD] cosmetic changes	[22:12]
marclaporte	marclaporte is in twighlight zone. tiki-syslog.php shows pagaination on one site but not the other, with latest branches/5.x	[22:24]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27184 10/branches/5.x/lib/logs/logslib.php: [FIX]logs: to be able to search on a feature change	[22:24]
sylvieg	pagiantion is a recent fix the move tiki_logs to actionlogs - after reflexion- was not a good move can we still change the db model it wil be great if the action field in tiki_actionlog not to be limited to 255 chars	[22:24]
marclaporte	tiki-sqllog.php how do I activate this? It says This feature is disabled: adodb	[22:33]
sylvieg	it works only with adodb because adodb has integrated logs pdo doesn't have perhaps we need a prefs - adodb/pdo that changes local.php	[22:34]
marclaporte	ah syslog pagination is OK (it's just that my limit per page was too high) and that somehow all logs before April 28th are gone maybe I deleted or I was in twighlight zone period on this site. Anyway, I have no use for logs there	[22:36]
sylvieg	sylvieg not sure that clean log in tikilogs is working - the merge tiki_log actionlogs ... was too minimal...	[22:39]
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marclaporte	St�phane!! :-)	[22:40]
sylvieg	it is why people complain about the actionlog interface - the concept has been deformed... tiki logs setting should have been done in its own setting - even if it the same databe table action log is measure volume tiki logs is logs i was not in charge btw why the api in actionlog is 'strange'? marclaporte: ^^^	[22:43]
marclaporte	you mean the UI?	[22:49]
sylvieg	yes sorry only remember that action log is a measure of action - so you have to decide which one is logged and which one to displayed perhaps it should have been 2 setting pannel	[22:49]
marclaporte	1st, you arrive to http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5x/tiki-admin_actionlog.php a) If I mouse over List and Statistics, they change colors so I think they are clickable b) if says: "Please select some actions to view." I would expect a drop down menu right there	[22:53]
sylvieg	is demo a intertiki?	[22:54]
marclaporte	no you have pass in pm so then, after a while I realize there is othing I can "do" on first tab i click "settings" then I see filter type & action + search button so I click search it refreshes but nothing changed I dunno what to do next so then I scroll down I see "set" button, so I figure I should click it it refreshes but nothing changed I go back to "report" tab and nothing has changed	[22:54]
sylvieg	ok I will add a default - to have at least one thing displayed +	[22:59]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27185 10/branches/5.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.query.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] presumed path bug on Windows. untested (code never seems used) tikiwiki: thanks mitchp (Addresses #2250)	[23:00]
sylvieg	will take away filter will put was is reported and the first tab ok tanks I have the idea but again tiki logs should have its own settings	[23:00]
marclaporte	thank you sylvie!	[23:04]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27186 10/branches/5.x/lib/smarty_tiki/block.self_link.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] path bug on Windows when installing directly in document root tikiwiki: thanks mitchp (Addresses #2250) tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27187 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.self_link.php: minor code simplification	[23:05]
	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27188 10/branches/5.x/tiki-login_openid.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] OpenID on Windows when installing directly in document root tikiwiki: thanks mitchp (Addresses #2250) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27189 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Pretty tracker replace: preg_replace_callback needs a weird array notation for it's callback function if inside a class. Was failing completely on PHP 5.2.0 (but ok on others) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27190 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-cart.tpl: [MOD] Show cart is empty message tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27191 10/branches/5.x/tiki-filter-base.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] bogus backslash in $tikiroot on Windows when installing directly in document root tikiwiki: Fixes #2250 tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27192 10/trunk/tiki-filter-base.php: tikiwiki: improve code readability tikiwiki: [FIX] also merges r27191 from 5.x	[23:15]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27193 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_addtocart.php: [ENH] Add to cart: customise button label tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27194 10/branches/5.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [bp/r27189][FIX] Pretty tracker replace: preg_replace_callback needs a weird array notation for it's callback function if inside a class. Was failing completely on PHP 5.2.0 (but ok on others)	[23:26]
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