tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r27171 10/trunk/lib/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] fix some javascript formatting, quality.tikiwiki.org
upgraded from 4.2 -> 5.0rc1. Tiki has disabled all my plugins (JS, TAG, etc.) that were approved and working in 4.2
o.. maybe not.
disregard. my bad
good morning 
morning
polomolomolom
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27172 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php: [FIX] Pretty tracker items need to be compiled for each item to reparse field values correctly
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27173 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [FIX] No need to fail here if no fields specified as it will use all of them
hi all :-)
hi ricks99 
hi jonnyb
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27174 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_addtocart.php: [ENH] Several fixes and enhancements for Add To Cart plugin, especially for use with pretty trackers
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27175 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-cart.tpl: [ENH] Cosmetic improvememnts to cart module. Also keep other form params when submitting updates
exit
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27176 10/trunk/ (. tiki-read_article.php): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27165 to 27169
hi i want to turn off CSRF detection however there seems to be no corresponding option in admin>general
ok, i found it
pls see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Login+Config
Is there any way to see detail of a group without a list of groups above it?
Is this configurable?
You mean other then from the Admin: Groups page?
There are several group-related plugins that you can use instead
hm... logo missing on tw.o community site
hello everyone
hi RavenC
ok i finally found a clue
if i create a blog Croatia to which group "Embassy to Croatia" has right to post and read
and i let every registered user to have permission to post in general
members of EtC has acces to posting page
however once i repeat the process for USA, a member of both groups is denied access to page
it's odd behaviour, maybe you could tell me what could be the problem?
(i was using object permissions this time)
Object perms will override Group and Category perms...
yes
i know, so what? i have two objects to which i have both write access
So, if using Object perms, you must explicity grant all necessary perms to each group...
ok ok ok i know
and so i did
look, when everything is workng now, as long as the user has access to one blog only
if, without doing any change to the first blog, i add another, the access is lost
i did so with two blogs with perms assigned to two different groups
i will now try to create two blogs belonging to the same group adn see what happens
Did you remember to clear the Tiki cache?
oh, right, i'll try
btw, can the cache be disabled for the time i am making administrative changes?
You can disable the wiki cache, but the Smarty caching is automatic (AFAIK)
it's either i am doing something illogical, or i found illogical behaviour on tikiwiki side
i am now trying to rule out the first :3
ok, i got even better testcase
a user that is not admin is unable to access the posting page if he has right to post in multiple blogs
Are the blogs marked as private? Do you have the "allow other users to post" option enabled?
I have many non-admin users who can post to different blogs
enabled - as soon as i disable it in any of the two, the posting page is accesible - the user is able to post in one blog only
this seems very strange
If the blog is private then other users cannot post. you need to disable it
"allow other users to post" is enabled
this is what i mean
omfg O.O
but hmmmm no i dont think this is the case with blogs
I've never used the blogs feature, so I wasn't certain.
i know what you write about yeah, i created a custom menu and noticed the tip that explained what you talk about
thres's an option for that in admin:category. something like "user must belong to all grpups"
blogs use permissions system and for breif moment i thought you mean that if i select two groups in permission menu, then it's different than if i dselec t one, set permissions and select another :p
btw
The only thing I can think of is that you're overriding the the perms with a blog-specific perm
if i a person can't read a blog, it'd be nice if that blog did not apear on blog listing
what do you think?
That's what the list perm is for
Liting, Reading,and Writing are all differnt perms
but it's not in the blog section, or is it? :o
Plus there's a Category view/browse/etc perm
i am not using categories this time
in fact, it's the object perms that allow the user to post to a blog
You're *not* using categories?
yes, this time i am not using them
oh....
i am using object permissions since the beginning
ok. But that is going to get *very* mesy *very* quickly
i decided so after yesterday failure - i do't really need categories here
no, actually each blog is assigned to one group and that's all
That means you are basically going to have "custom" perms for every single blog
yes, however there is no big risk that i will need to change the permissions
also, without using categories i rule out a possible problem
once i have the blogs working with object permissions, i may later move to category permissions
What do you mean "assigned each blog to one group"? AFAIK, there's no such feature to assign objects to groups. That's what categories are for
i meant abstract
OK. So....
each blog is readable by a general group "trustworthy"
and writeble by specific group "X embassy"
and this is not likely to change in a while
For your global perms, the Registered group has post and read perm...
only post
Thats the problem
hmmm ok, ill try with read
You need this.....
1. Give Registered Read and Post
2. Group A inherits Registered
3. For Blog A (which only group A should post)...
can i use Group "embassy" that is inherited by every speicif " x embassy" ?
assign Post
4. Now all users can read blog A, but only Gropu A can post
can i use Group "embassy" that is inherited by every speicif " x embassy" instead of Registerd here?
Y, but you are thinking of the perms backwards...
You grant globally, then *restrict* specificlly
:f
Perms inherit *upwards* not downwards
Tiki follows a *tree* model -- not a *root* model
Weisser here
Ok, so i have a group "croatian embassy" that inherits from "embassy"
"embassy" has R&P global permissions
correct permissions for blog Croatia would be "croatian embassy" can Post ?
and read
and u want other groups to be able to red?
*read?
yes
actually a group "trustworthy"
so that ambassador can read his own blog, obviously + all other blogs after he is already working for some time
OK, then you are going to have to explicity add that too, to the object perms.
This is the advantage of using categories. You don't ahve to explicity set perms for each and every group -- just for the category
honestly... this is what i did before you told me to do that :D
so i suppose i did everything correctly
if i do that for one blog A1, it's all fine
once i repeat it for a blog A2, the user that has acces to both of them suddenly is denied access to posting page
Don't know. sorry. You should try posting to the support forum
:F i guess you're right
i will also try reading the code
maybe it will enligthen me :F
have ur reviewd all the perm docs?
The examples are very good and do a good job of explaining
hmm, but honestly ricks
if i has access to A
how can adding an independent B
deny me access to A
it's not a trivial problem with permissions, tough maybe - just maybe - they are involved
don't know. As I said, i have lots of blogs with multiple perms allowed to post and it works as expected
i know, blogs are a stable feature
thats very frustrating - it may mean i will need to reinstall the whole base
Of course, I use categories
i think,. quite obviously, the problem is in how posting page determines if you should be granted access
by perms
i need to find out how it does it, and then i will be able to adjust my ways with permissions
well, of course, but i need to know exactly what it checks
review the docs
if it checks if there exists any blog tat the user can post to, then it can be quite power-hungry process
unless it's cached
but i think a corrupt cache can be rule out, i already made a few tests that contradict this idea
horizontal phplayers menu are broken in 5. Do we fix? Or do we say use css?
anyone here familiar with tiki-blog_post.php file?
well, if easy to fix
we need to ditch but it's still used in a few places (ex.: cat browser or something)
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can't ditch phplayers without at least annoucing it first
seems that it is layermenu-header.ijs that it is not executed - no idea what is a ijs file...
Q: for new TIki5 install, minify JS and CSS is on by default?
I think so Ricks.  I've had to disable every time
on the RC1 install yesterday, minify JS, but not CSS were defaults
k. Is mimify js "ready for prime time"?
have seen some issues disussed in the forums
RavenC: is correct
not certain if it is my implementation on Win/IIS or not, but I had to uncheck minify JS and minify CSS to function correctly.
y. thats what i was thinking. should it be "off" by default to minimize potential issues?
would get my vote...  :)
strange, where can be the function $bloglib->list_blogs_user_can_post() defined
:o
it's not in lib/blog/bloglib.php
@RavenC: me too. I thnk we need to minimize potential issues as much as possible.
@Wssr: tikilib maybe? Try grep
umm right, i'll grep it
Wsr:  on my 5.0 install, I found the string in tiki-blog_post.php
and only there?
this is where it's used
i need to find out how it works
that is the only place agent ransack found it.  Of course, I do not have any blogs set up, so I am not certain if it would be listed elsewhere or not
i'll grep for "list_blogs_user_can_post" alone
ok, it;s defined in tikilib.php
i assume this: "$ret[] = $res;" copies $res to $ret as a new array, right?
nah, i mean row
:f
aha a javascript  expert  visiting :-)
user in tiki_blogs is probably the "creator"?
(i am referring to db now)
oooh! javascript expert - goody! (hi sylvieg)
:-)
do you have a clue about the phplayers menu?
what is a ijs file?
Institute of Joseph Stalin
hmm, never heard of ijs
and phplayers is obsolete (and very hairy)
more that hairy...
could the .ijs reference be a typo for a .js (thinking out loud)
file extension IJS - J Interpretor Script File
File extension IJS description: The ijs file extension is associated with J, a modern, high-level, general-purpose, high-performance programming language, developed by JSofttware.
coo!
polom chealer 
RavenC: depending on what's in it and how tested (or untested) it is.
note to self: never use the word "modern" in a Tiki marketing bit
hi jonnyb
hi marclaporte. what's the problem?
hi
oh. I don't know what it is, but it's not just JS
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27177 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] turn off Minify javascript by default as some report some issues in certain setups, and slowness at the last step of the installer. Idea: make a high performance profiles, which activates all this
but that's not J
so I don't know
the ijs in tiki4 is expansed at the end of the html - but it is not in tiki5
the ijs interpreted code in not there in the source in tiki5
phplayers has a README.ihtml
several smart extensions
I am wrong the code is there..
are we deprecating phplayers in 5.0 (for removal in 6.0)? if so, i'll add to 5.0 release notes
Hi all. If anyone can clue me in on what, I'm guessing, permission setting i messed up I would appreciate it. Created a tracker, assigned it to a category almost all (no admin or rating) perms for Trackers. When I try to Insert an item I only see the radio buttons for "view inserted item" or "insert a new item" and not the fields I added to the tracker. Any help would be appreciated.
very important info to let folks know
ricks99 : +1
@marclaporte: others? i know there's a list of 'endangered features' but r they really 2 b removed in 6.0?
we can not deprecated in 5 because it is still use in categ and fgal explorer :-(
but will be in 6
the code is painful
so deprecate in 6 and remove in 7?
(usually u deprecate 1 full release prior to removal)
+1 for that
except if somebody takes time to chaeg categs and fgal
so the current issue with the phplayers not working for horiz will b resolved for 5.0?
I am on this since this morning with no success - will spend another hour and will give up
tx sylvieg.
@TonyOlivero: Any specific perms assigned to the tracker? They will override global and category perms
@rricks99 No, only global/category.
What is your tiki version?
4.1 I believe.
look @ admin: General page
Happy to beat my admins into an update if that owuld help :-)
definately.. 4.2 has some important security fixes
Yeah, 4.1
For the tracker fields, do you have any of the "Field is hidden" opentsion enabled?
*options
I believe only one. And that was the field I created to satisfy the "option creator needs a field of user select..."
Which, I must admit I don't fully understand that sentence.
You need to make a tracker field of type: User Select
Anyway...
Are you attempting to enter the tracker data via the Tracker page, or from a wiki page with the TRACKER plugin?
Tracker page.
This is a brand new tarcker, right? no items in it yet?
That is correct.
You said that you're using categories? Does the user belong to a group that has perm to create/view/insert tracker items?
Yes.
Hm....
Are you using the "Items can be created only during a certain time" option? Make sure that you have allowed tracker items to be created
luciash: polom
No, the date options are not checked.
And I see the Insert item link, which brings up the form, but only shows the radio buttons for what I want to do after submitting the item, no data fields for entry. They do ppear if I'm logged in as admin, which is what me think perm, but I don't know where.
OK. it works as admin? Do you have specif perms assigne dto the tracker?
polom
marclaporte: moloq
luciash: hehe    logo on dev is not right even with latest svn.  What needs to happen?
it's because of top menu?
yes
you need to add that custom code
with margin-top: 0
The tracker shows "no individual permissions"
@marclaporte: logo on community is missing entirely
copy from profiles.tw.o
marclaporte: copy it from profiles.tw.o
i also changed "Documentation" to "Docs" in the menu so it fits
hehe
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r27178 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Minor typo/wording
@luciash: how about "Guide" or "Manual" instead?
@TonyOlivero: I'm not sure. If Admin can add items, then it is a perm issue somewhere
@rricks99 Thanks. I'll go back to perm huning. :-)
*hunting*
you are 100% that the fields are not marked as hidden?
Just the one. The rest show "not hidden"
out of ideas. sorry. :(
no worries. I appreciate the help
bummer. I am 0-2 today. :-(
ricks99: it's not exactly that, Docs is most common link amongst software on the web sites
or Documentation
on the dev site? the last stats I looked at GET CODE was #1, and HELLO WORLD was #2
very few clicks at all on the very top menu (site selector)
i think CHAT shoul be moved under MORE (since it doesnt' really give you a chat interaface, just the logs)
but again, very few visitors even use that very top menu
you there sylvieg? in {trackerfilter}, if you have displayList="y" and noflipflop="y" shouldn't the filters appear? (otherwise it's just a {trackerlist})
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php  why is browser title with duplicate info? Community : Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - community site
: Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - community site
jonnyb yes
I understand now why the php menu do not work - but no idea how to fixit
toctoc
hi all
jolly good - i'll fix it (was just wondering if it was a "feature" :) )
polom xavi 
got your email
we'll skype (or bbb :-) in short this afternoon (in 30 mins?)
bbb is working fine!
ok, smashing
maybe luciash wants to join the talk? about the c2c.op.o site and dev.tw.o/cc project
bbb audio now working?
yes, server was rebooted, should work now
I tested earlier and I could connect with my VOIP phone
that usually does it!
and headset?
marclaporte, and is chat (from bbb chat) logged already?
ricks99 : thanks for looking at stats!   One day, we'll have a feature where menu items change spots automagically based on clicjs
no, you need to copy paste before you leave
ok
I give up the plm menus
i did a few tikis ago :)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27179 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [FIX] trackerfliter: show filters if displayList and noflipflop at the same time
nuke plm!
code from 2004!
@sylvieg: if phplayers are not working in 5.0 (but we expect to fix for 5.1) can u add as a known issue in release notes?
I do not know how to fix it without touching the plm lib
we should have a discussion about tiki6 - what should go - plm definitely, image gals... any others?
i'm thinking we should KIL them soon, then people will fix up the missing bits and work out migration docs etc
babelsfish options
oh yes, that's ancient
in i18n admin page
does it work?
kinda. but not very well
need a list of features to deprecate in 5 & kill in 6
there's the google one now too - is it the same sort of thing?
+/-
need to kill the non-mysql search too
indeed
but replacing with lucene seems like a good plan (but for 6? i don't know)
clean out old modules, too. calendar vs. calendar new, search vs. search box vs. search box new etc
maybe make a list and deprecate in 5.1 (if we have 5.1 relatively soon)
@jonnyb: the Admin: Site Ad should also be removed. Should simply use banner function instead.
can you start a new list on dev.two pls ricks99?
there was one called "move to mods" or something from 3.x days
i think its already on the roadmap page...
checking...
will add a "proposed deprecation in 5.0" section http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Endangered+Feature
8) 
can anyone remember the firefox addon where you can capture a form input for analysis?
i used to have it but can't find it now
now, there is even "endangered on mods"!
jonnyb: you're not thinking about Live HTTP Headers, perhaps?
i think it was FormFox, but it's not for 3.6
i'll try a search for headers
heheh, noflipflop is really a param ?
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xavi: sorry, was afk (dinner) and i think i cannot make it today to bbb
luciash, ok
in 10 min, jonnyb, in skype, then? 
yup - rrwr (ring ring when ready)
ok
i'm around and doing your stuff all evening, so no rush
jonnyb and lindon_ : http://www.openvideoconference.org/ in New York around Tiki6 time
coo - grants for travel - i'll put in an application
marclaporte: i was just thinking... new tiki logo, must mean new tiki t-shirts - when's the next 'fest? :)
hehe
as soon as someone organizes one
rumors are Ottawa in August and New York in October
ny in and around the weekend of october 16th
hi lindon_ - openvideoconference.org is 1-2 october
jonnyb: better to do the fest right after?
from oct 3
would be good for me - especially if i can get them to pick up even part of the flight cost
awesome Jonny!
jonnyb: you can stay with us during the conference if you'd like
that would be great lindon_ - thanks
cuts off part of the weekend for the fest, but i guess that's okay
has somebody an idea if there is a function like access->check_permission with the new Perms
in tiki-payment there is a access->redirect but I do like it
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27180 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW]tracker: command to move an item from a tracker to another: copy only the fields that have same name,type,option(will not work if 2 fields have the same name in the first tracker
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27181 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: limit item move to admin - as it is mainly used for correcting people who register in the wrong tracker
have a great weekend everyone!
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27182 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-i18n.tpl: [MOD] copy a setting to i18n admin panel, because it's also relevant there
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27183 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-bot_bar.tpl: [MOD] cosmetic changes
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27184 10/branches/5.x/lib/logs/logslib.php: [FIX]logs: to be able to search on a feature change
pagiantion is a recent fix
the move tiki_logs to actionlogs - after reflexion- was not a good move
can we still change the db model
it wil be great if the action field in tiki_actionlog not to be limited to 255 chars
tiki-sqllog.php how do I activate this?  It says This feature is disabled: adodb
it works only with adodb
because adodb has integrated logs
pdo doesn't have
perhaps we need a prefs - adodb/pdo that changes local.php
ah
syslog pagination is OK (it's just that my limit per page was too high)
and that somehow all logs before April 28th are gone
maybe I deleted or I was in twighlight zone period on this site. Anyway, I have no use for logs there
Stéphane!! :-)
it is why people complain about the actionlog interface - the concept has been deformed...
tiki logs setting should have been done in its own setting - even if it the same databe table
action log is measure volume tiki logs is logs
i was not in charge
btw why the api in actionlog is 'strange'?
marclaporte: ^^^
you mean the UI?
yes sorry
only remember that action log is a measure of action - so you have to decide which one is logged and which one to displayed
perhaps it should have been 2 setting pannel
1st, you arrive to http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5x/tiki-admin_actionlog.php
a) If I mouse over List and Statistics, they change colors so I think they are clickable
b) if says: "Please select some actions to view."  I would expect a drop down menu right there
is demo a intertiki?
no
you have pass in pm
so then, after a while I realize there is othing I can "do" on first tab
i click "settings"
then I see filter type & action + search button
so I click search
it refreshes but nothing changed
I dunno what to do next
so then I scroll down
I see "set" button, so I figure I should click it
it refreshes but nothing changed
I go back to "report" tab and nothing has changed
ok I will add a default - to have at least one thing displayed + 
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27185 10/branches/5.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.query.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] presumed path bug on Windows. untested (code never seems used)
tikiwiki: thanks mitchp (Addresses #2250)
will take away filter
will put was is reported and the first tab
ok tanks I have the idea
but again tiki logs should have its own settings
thank you sylvie!
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27186 10/branches/5.x/lib/smarty_tiki/block.self_link.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] path bug on Windows when installing directly in document root
tikiwiki: thanks mitchp (Addresses #2250)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27187 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.self_link.php: minor code simplification
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27188 10/branches/5.x/tiki-login_openid.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] OpenID on Windows when installing directly in document root
tikiwiki: thanks mitchp (Addresses #2250)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27189 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Pretty tracker replace: preg_replace_callback needs a weird array notation for it's callback function if inside a class. Was failing completely on PHP 5.2.0 (but ok on others)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27190 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-cart.tpl: [MOD] Show cart is empty message
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27191 10/branches/5.x/tiki-filter-base.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] bogus backslash in $tikiroot on Windows when installing directly in document root
tikiwiki: Fixes #2250
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27192 10/trunk/tiki-filter-base.php: 
tikiwiki: improve code readability
tikiwiki: [FIX] also merges r27191 from 5.x
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27193 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_addtocart.php: [ENH] Add to cart: customise button label
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27194 10/branches/5.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [bp/r27189][FIX] Pretty tracker replace: preg_replace_callback needs a weird array notation for it's callback function if inside a class. Was failing completely on PHP 5.2.0 (but ok on others)