[00:36] *** Cain` has joined #tikiwiki [00:38] *** Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [00:38] *** Cain` is now known as Cain [00:46] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [01:11] *** franck has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:13] *** franck has joined #tikiwiki [01:30] *** goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki [01:33] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:33] *** goj|ghost is now known as goj [04:21] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [04:34] *** timotiCK has joined #tikiwiki [04:34] *** timotiCK has left [06:23] *** changi|home has joined #tikiwiki [06:26] *** changi|home has left [06:58] *** pikytcus has joined #tikiwiki [07:02] Hey, has anyone on here gotten tiki to work with sqlite? I've heard of people doing it, but can't find any docs and the tiki installer only has mysql and mysqli as database types [07:06] *** uSlacker has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:19] *** uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki [07:39] *** uSlacker has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [07:51] *** uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki [09:09] *** yoni has joined #tikiwiki [09:36] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3182 - - Missing Parent-Selection Box at "Edit File-Gallery" - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3182 [10:16] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3183 - - Tree View of File Gallery only shows the 1st Level of Galleries - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3183 [11:29] *** Bernard- has joined #tikiwiki [11:29] *** yoni has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:08] *** lorinc has joined #tikiwiki [12:21] *** lorinc has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:22] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [13:38] *** franck has quit IRC (Quit: franck) [14:00] *** daniam has joined #tikiwiki [14:01] *** FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki [14:02] tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r27199 10/branches/proposals/3.x/comments.php: [FIX] Only skip the author, not everybody after the author. Plus pass anonymous name to preview [14:03] *** Bernard- has quit IRC (Quit: Bernard-) [14:15] are we still on auto-merge ? I have a bugfix for trunk and 5.x. Do I commit to 5.x only or both ? [14:24] tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r27200 10/branches/proposals/3.x/comments.php: [FIX] Ooops, 'anonymous_name' may not be set (partial rollback of 27199) [14:25] tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r27201 10/branches/5.x/comments.php: [FIX] Only skip the author, not everybody after the author. [15:03] *** changi|home has joined #tikiwiki [15:04] *** changi|home has quit IRC (Client Quit) [15:04] *** changi|home has joined #tikiwiki [15:52] *** changi|home has left [16:29] *** omstefanov has joined #tikiwiki [16:31] I've made a number of fixes to the 'Survey' feature of tiki, such that you can now have completely bilingual surveys. In the process I made a few other improvements and fixes. [16:31] I've done all of this on the basis of a version 4.2 which is what we (JIAMCATT community) use. [16:32] I'd like to share the fixes and improvements back into the community version of tiki. for this I have a few questions: [16:33] Q.1 Is there a way to tell, or does someone know whether there are CURRENTLY any changes in SURVEY between v. 4.2 and v.5RC1? If not, whatever I've done could also be added to v.5. [16:34] Q.2 Is there a version (a 4.2/trunk for example) into which I can upload my changes? [16:36] Q.3 Is there anyone out there who could give me some "hands on" help uploading my changes? I contributed a bit of code in the Summer of '09 (during TikiFestGSOC in London) but have forgotten a lot since. [16:43] omstefanov: are you still online? [16:45] yes [16:46] I've read all the stuff about the Quality Team and branches/proposals/4.x but now need more hard facts [16:47] sorry, should have replied Daniam: yes [17:08] New Forum Posts: 5 Alive - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=14&comments_parentId=37200 [17:19] Wait a min [17:20] Your name is Ken, right? [17:22] pikytcus: sqlite worked only partially and with version 1.9.x i think, maybe 2.x too, but was dropped from later versions [17:23] pikytcus: i made a gallery of installation with sqlite on tw.o once upon a time if you're interested [17:23] daniam: If you're referring to me, omstefanov, no my name is NOT Ken; I'm olaf-michael. [17:24] daniam: and what's your name? don't think we've met at a tikifest or even online ... [17:24] omstefaolaf-michael: My name is Daniel. OK, here is what you have to do. This channel is not very active on weekends. If you log in back tomorrow during the day, you would see more activity. Any how, here is what I suggest to you as I am not able to help you other than re-directing your request.... [17:25] omstefanov: ... What I suggest to you is send your questions to: tikiwiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net. It is suggested that you subscribe at: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tikiwiki-devel [17:25] listening ... watching ... [17:25] omstefanov: if you want it in Tiki 5 it is probably too late but you can still try to put it in your 5.x locally and test if it works, you can commit it but i fear it will have to go to 6.0, so trunk, first [17:26] I'm subscribed to tikiwiki_devel. have been for about a year or so. [17:26] omstefanov: maybe if it's good it can be backported later than from trunk to 5.x branch after release of 5.0, so it will be possible to have it in 5.1 at least [17:27] oH. Here luciash: will be able to help you. I have to go. People are waiting for me. Tks Luciash. Take care omstefanov [17:27] @luciash: No I understand it's too late for 5. What I want to know is where to port to get it into 4.3 [17:27] *** daniam has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [17:27] daniam: thx [17:28] omstefanov: in branches/proposals/4.x [17:28] omstefanov: i think there will be no 4.3 as it is not LTS release... when 5.0 will be released people will be encouraged to upgrade to 5.0 from 4.2 and the support for 4.x branch will be dropped iirc [17:28] @luciash: and my other question: how can I tell if there were any changes to SURVEY modules between 4.2 and 5RC1 ? [17:29] or maybe 4.3 will be released with current backports but then dropped, i am not sure here what is the plan [17:30] luciash: i think 4.3 will be the last one [17:30] omstefanov: you can diff the survey files [17:31] omstefanov: either with svn diff command the revisions numbers or with some tool you like [17:31] In principle, I'm in favour of moving to 5, but as I support a site for a community from international organizations and EU bodies I can't afford "bleading edge". I expect we'll upgrade, but not to 5.0 but to 5.1. [17:33] @luciash: OKAY, I have made changes to 2 php's and 4 tlp's to fix survey. On top of that I have made extensions to the custom.php in language, doing so at this point only in FR (French). [17:33] ok, if there will be 4.3, you can commit to proposals/4.x and if it is accepted by QA team, you will have it in 4.3... then you have to wait until 5.0 is released and try with trunk and then with 5.x too and commit backport to branches/proposals/5. x(does not exist yet) [17:35] omstefanov: in short, best will be if you test it with your local copy of trunk first (i don't think there were any changes between 4.x and 5, except maybe some text string corrections) [17:36] @luciash: I'm working from a Windows-Vista PC using an SVN'd copy of 4.2 which I maintain locally with Notepad++ and upload modules via protected FTP to the server (which is run by Marc Laporte). [17:37] omstefanov: but you can svn checkout trunk as well, can't you ? [17:37] @luciash: How to I transfer the bundle of php's and tpl's to proposals/4.x (adding an upgrade number and somehow my name in the process)? [17:38] omstefanov: if you want proposals, you have to svn checkout the proposals/4.x branch, then copy your files over there and test, then commit [17:38] same with trunk [17:38] I'm sure I can svn checkout trunk (but which trunk is that)? [17:39] trunk is trunk, the only one main development code... then there are branches [17:39] omstefanov: https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk [17:40] so you just do svn co of the link changi just posted ;) [17:40] * changi always pragmatic :) [17:41] @luciash and changi: but as I've been testing everything on a prod v.4.2, it would be a pragmatic thing to know (roughly) which version trunk corresponds to: 4.2+? 5RC1? or? [17:41] omstefanov: but i recommend not to do it in your current 4.2 copy folder of course but go one level dir up :) [17:42] trunk corresponds to 6.0 [17:42] far future now :) [17:42] well, it is close to 5.0 [17:42] upcoming, because we did merges [17:43] from 5.x branch [17:43] but there can be some new things which will be released only for 6.0 at first already [17:43] @luciash: but given the number of problems being reported, incl. some show stoppers for 5RC1, I doubt I can port my applic (or enough parts of it) to trunk at this point. [17:44] omstefanov: please, commit in proposals/4.x first and we'll see what we can do ;) [17:44] omstefanov: you don't have to care about trunk yet [17:44] ... so somehow, would you agree that I should better work with proposals/4.x branch at this time, and have the QA team look at it there ... (just as you now wrote) [17:45] yep :) [17:46] @luciash: thanks. So bear with me a bit longer, on a few practicalities: [17:46] changi: what is the plan to release 4.3 ? in other words... when roughly ? [17:47] changi: i don't remember seeing it in the roadmap [17:48] luciash: in fact you're right, it's not planned [17:48] @luciash: Did I understand correctly that I cannot upload the 4.2 modules to proposals/4.x, but first have to svn down a copy of proposals/4.x, install this parallel to my 4.2, copy my revised modules from my 4.2 to my local copy of proposals/4.x ? [17:50] omstefanov: well, you could do svn switch to that branch but i prefer to work with fresh copy of branch than trying to figure out if i did something wrong or left something which shouldn't be there from the previous branch [17:51] (just to prevent some accidental commit or wondering why it doesn't work anymore as it should) [17:52] *** yoni has joined #tikiwiki [17:52] omstefanov: i hope you have plenty of space on your disk to afford another copy of Tiki's svn code ;) [17:53] hi all [17:53] changi: would make more sense though if it was planned because there were some backports actually (which would be waste of work now) and the branch wasn't dropped after 4.2 [17:56] @luciash and changi: thanks for your advice. Yes I have disk space for another copy of Tiki's svn code. In fact I have an earlier copy (of a v3trunk) on disk. [17:57] @luciash and changi: my v3trunk is 233 MB, interestingly my v42 is only 166 MB. I don't see a size on SF for proposals/4.x. Any idea how big that'll be? [17:58] Polom [18:00] @luciash and changi: and now I have the special tricky thing, to try to recall how to do a and later the svn merge to/from a WIndows, rather than a linux environment. [18:00] there is something I don't understand: If there is no 4.3, what is the practical benefit to anyone if omstefanov commits his fixes on proposals/4.x ? [18:00] Hi, Jyhem! [18:01] Jyhem: Perhaps, IF there are fixes worth fixing, then these may make a 4.3 worthwhile ... :-)) [18:01] Hi ! Just interrupting my cherry pie to figure out what is the plan, here :-) [18:02] Jyhem: bon appetite ! [18:03] Who'd use this 4.3 ? Isn't everybody moving to 5 soon ? [18:03] by soon, I mean, some day :-) I know there are still issues [18:04] I imagine there are quite a number of 4.1 or 4.2 sites out there that might appreciate some fixes and improvements ahead of that date in the medium future when they migrate to 5.x. [18:05] Also, I understand that the Quality Team gets the chance to review the feature to decide if it can be ported to 5.1, for example. [18:05] Jyhem: since you're part of that team ... ? [18:06] I feel that the place where these improvements are needed, is 5.x. Unless, of course there are fixes, which are certainly welcme in 4.3 [18:07] No, I'm not part of Quality Team :-) [18:08] Jyhem: sorry, I mixed up Nyloth and Pkdille again ... [18:08] But I imagine (with visual and audio clues), that they are busy enough reviewing stuff in proposals. I doubt they have time to port to trunk or 5.1 [18:09] Anyone online: How big is proposals/4.x, how big is 5RC1, and how big is /trunk? I need this info to decide which I can svn down to my PC. [18:12] 175M /home/libs/tikiwiki/tikiwiki_sf/branches/1.10rn188M /home/libs/tikiwiki/tikiwiki_sf/branches/2.0rn275M /home/libs/tikiwiki/tikiwiki_sf/branches/3.0rn305M /home/libs/tikiwiki/tikiwiki_sf/branches/4.xrn361M /home/libs/tikiwiki/tikiwiki_sf/branches/5.xrn [18:14] i think it makes sense for ppl to upgrade to 4.3 which will be definitely more "stable" than 5.0 (more translated for example) and then wait to upgrade from 4.3 to 5.1 [18:16] *** yoni has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) [18:19] ok. Then I guess there *will* be a 4.3.. Good [18:41] *** daniam has joined #tikiwiki [18:42] *** yoni has joined #tikiwiki [18:52] tw5 can use title, description, freetags and more for metatag. This is very good as i need different metatag for each page but i don't want description or freetag to be displayed on the page is there a workaround (before customizing templates) ? [19:10] *** yoni has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) [19:13] Jyhem: thanks for the sizes. Would proposals/4.x be about the same size as braches/4.x ? (i.e. around 361MB ?) [19:15] Does anyone know where to find the source for the {wiki} {/wiki} smarty function? And is there an equivalent for use in php? PluginParser.php in WikiParser doesn't quite seem to be it ... [19:24] omstefanov: in lib/smarty_tiki/block_wiki.php [19:24] omstefanov: in 5.x [19:34] *** FrankP_german is now known as FrankP_away [19:43] tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r27202 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [ENH]Added options to display the description of directory sites (default = n) and ability to set maximum length (truncate) of the description (default = no truncation). [19:47] changi: thanks :-) [19:50] omstefanov: you're welcome [19:55] tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r27203 10/branches/5.x/templates/modules/mod-directory_top_sites.tpl: Ooops. should have been included with r27202 [20:19] @luciash: Ah. Is there a way to get sqlite support back in a local trunk? Or would that fail? [20:33] changi: if I wanted to use smarty_block_wiki($params, $content, &$smarty) within php with the params value of line=1 how would I code this (assuming content in $textstring)? [20:46] omstefanov: that's a really good question !! [20:47] changi: I could, of course do a cop-out and simply copy the code (without the apersand-dollarsign-smarty parm), but was hoping for a more elegant solution. [20:56] *** yoni has joined #tikiwiki [21:01] extending Q to all listeners/readers: changi and I (omstefanov) ask whether anyone knows how to use a smarty code block (e.g. {wiki} ... {/wiki} within a php module, e.g. to assemble an extended text there. 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