#tikiwiki 2010-05-17,Mon

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yonixxxxx	morning all (again ?)	[07:16]
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yonixxxxx	hu ? I just install a new svn 5.x tw, the tiki-install page seams to have troubles with the his default style http://israelfr.com/5x.html/tiki-install.php	[08:05]
	it was only after i process to the db selection and upgrade that the style went back (hope this help)	[08:18]
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luciash	polom	[08:46]
yonixxxxx	polom	[08:47]
jonnyb	hi all	[08:47]
yonixxxxx	ahoj	[08:47]
luciash	yonixxxxx: :) boker tov yonixxxxx: or shalom ? :-p	[08:49]
yonixxxxx	:) Shalom is general, hello. Boker Tov is good morning. Now should be Tso'orayim Tovim (good middle of the day) ;)	[08:50]
luciash	jonnyb: i think the fivealive FF bug with right column is showstopper, what do you think ? yonixxxxx: eh, too complicated jonnyb: considering it is default theme now :-[08:52] <jonnyb> luciash: for me it's happening in all themes (even thenews!) so definitely a blocker imho	[08:50]
yonixxxxx	boker tov will be just fine	[08:52]
luciash	have to ask gary	[08:52]
yonixxxxx	Lu have you seen my email about a brand new install this morning ?	[08:52]
jonnyb	i can't see what's broken it though -it was recent, i'm sure it was ok in b2	[08:52]
luciash	yonixxxxx: sorry, yes, quickly read that... but no clue jonnyb: yep, me too jonnyb: i suspect some JS	[08:53]
yonixxxxx	strange... exactly 24hours from now i had no such probleme	[08:53]
luciash	because when you hide it and comes back the content is there suddenly	[08:53]
jonnyb	hmm? could be ah, ok - but why not all pages then?	[08:53]
luciash	(if you have enabled the hiding of left/right columns)	[08:54]
yonixxxxx	http://i42.tinypic.com/13yjmza.jpg	[08:54]
luciash	jonnyb: oh ? i thought it is on all pages	[08:54]
jonnyb	brb	[08:55]
luciash	yonixxxxx: weird	[08:55]
yonixxxxx	yes as the db was set (an previous 5.x) and updated the style came back	[08:55]
luciash	jonnyb: maybe it can cause some improper xhtml code, because validator says there are some 476 Errors now :(	[08:59]
jonnyb	b	[09:00]
luciash	jonnyb: for example <div id='toc'><ul class="toc"><ul><li><a href='#Community_Currencies_Take	[09:00]
jonnyb	wa!? i did a day of validation a while back - it was all clean!	[09:00]
luciash	from http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Community+Currencies ul after ul is not correct obviously (comes from the maketoc)	[09:00]
jonnyb	anyway, have some other monday morning stuff to attend to - but i'll have a look later if you can't nail it	[09:01]
luciash	oki	[09:01]
jonnyb	(cc is one of them! :) )	[09:01]
luciash	i will validate my local branch still	[09:01]
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	oh my god, why clearing tiki cache takes ages mow ? s/mow/now	[09:24]
chealer	polom	[09:35]
jonnyb	polom chealer	[09:36]
chealer	luciash: I'm guessing re-building the cache is the problem hi jonnyb	[09:36]
jonnyb	especially the 'public' one with the prefs search indexes in	[09:36]
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luciash	hi chealer maybe but it is fresh install (not much in there to cache)	[09:51]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3184 - - WYSIWYG Paragraphs - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3184	[09:55]
luciash	luciash can't find in tikilib where the extra <ul> comes from jonnyb: can you give me a link to page where the right column is ok ? i really see the problem on all pages of dev.tw.o for example	[09:58]
jonnyb	right column? oh, i thought we were talking left column and for me it only seems to disappear on admin/features in sarafi/chrome also safari ;) what's up for you?	[10:01]
luciash	right column is always "hidden" in Firefox until i click hide right column icon and show again	[10:01]
jonnyb	you mean like on http://doc.tikiwiki.org ? it's fine for me	[10:02]
luciash	dev	[10:02]
jonnyb	dev happy too	[10:02]
luciash	weird are you logged in ?	[10:02]
jonnyb	ah, no - 1 min...	[10:04]
luciash	you are right, FF 3.5.9 seems fine	[10:05]
jonnyb	do you mean the problem where you hide the right col, and then reload the page and it shows a blank col? that's been there for ages	[10:05]
luciash	must be my Flock (dunno what FF version it is based on actually)	[10:05]
jonnyb	i couldn't work out how to fix it (spent a couple of hours - gave in)	[10:06]
luciash	sorry for false alert no i mean it happens immediately	[10:06]
jonnyb	once you click the show/hide again, and it appears it's ok, right?	[10:06]
luciash	in my Flock 2.5.6 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.16) Gecko/2009122206 Firefox/3.0.16 Flock/2.5.6 ah, it is based on FF 3.0.16	[10:07]
jonnyb	basically i couldn't fix it without changing lite.css (and that way lies madness! :) )	[10:07]
luciash	mybe it is FF 3.0.x problem only	[10:07]
jonnyb	what's the prob? (again... sorry)	[10:08]
luciash	the prob is the content of the right column is not displayed until i hide and show the right column again using the show/hide icon	[10:08]
jonnyb	first time you go to a site? or after you hide it?	[10:09]
luciash	also i have horizontal scrollbar down there with pretty huge gap to right first time i go to any page on the site	[10:09]
jonnyb	the cookie is per site - it won't happen unless you hide it first, i believe	[10:10]
luciash	maybe you need a screencast :) (i am using yuuguu.com to share my screen if you want) or we can dogfood BBB ;)	[10:11]
jonnyb	no, it sounds like what i'm talking about - any browser i think - hide right hand col, reload page - right hand margin is there, but no column have to do other stuff, sorry	[10:13]
luciash	sure, yes, it sounds like that.... maybe i have hidden it first time and now it does by default page load too i have just figured out it does for me in Firefox 3.0 only (and Flock is based on it) so it doesn't seem to be a big problem anyway i presume most people use 3.5.x or 3.6 nowadays must be some bug in FF 3.0.x and it does no matter if you're logged in or not FF 3.5 and FF 3.6 or any other browser is fine for me jonnyb: it is slightly different problem than what you describe i think but very close jonnyb: anyway, as i said, not a big deal, don't worry about it i think	[10:15]
jonnyb	sounds like it must be related - not happening with left col, yes?	[10:19]
luciash	nope	[10:19]
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Danguba	can anyone hel mi whit site access page on tiki? can anyone help me with site access page on tiki? I lost login page, geting HTTP error on typing domain name How to retrive login page?	[10:24]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27204 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [FIX] Missing closing </div> (sigh)	[10:28]
yonixxxxx	http://xxxxxx.xxx/tiki-login.php	[10:29]
Danguba	Thanks!!	[10:31]
yonixxxxx	np	[10:33]
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luciash	luciash already found out where the extra ul comes from... it is the "empty" level when Headings in page start from !! or !!! and not with first level !... then it renders an empty ul without li and thus breaking xhtml validity	[10:36]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3185 - - Registration: Spurious Invalid Email Address Message - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3185	[10:36]
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xavi	polom	[10:36]
luciash	hola xavi	[10:36]
xavi	I?ve just upgraded http://intercanvis.net to 5.0rc1, and I see a few issues.... hi luci :-) one of the issues is "theme"-related :-) in articles fature (using a modified thenews theme )	[10:36]
jonnyb	hi xavi	[10:38]
xavi	when posting a new article, the horizontal bar with menu is not shown ( http://intercanvis.net/tiki-edit_submission.php ) hi jonny that problem was also in 4.2, btw same problem with "items list" field type, which seems not to work with 5.0rc1 (it didn't with 4.2 either, but did work in previous versions, afaik) and some of the new issues: external rss feeds stopped displaying (they seemed to work well in 4.2) sylvieg ? is "items list" tracker field type working for you in tiki5 ? luciash: my custom site header at intercanvis.net is: <div style="float:none"><a href="index.php"><img src="show_image.php?id=35" width="300" ><img src="show_image.php?id=37" width="100"></a></div> could this produce some interference with edit submission??? so that the horizontal bar & menu dissapear then ?	[10:39]
luciash	xavi: try valid xhtml	[10:43]
xavi	"valid xhtml" ? also the position of the logo, is different from where it was in 4.2 with the same code	[10:43]
luciash	xavi: <div style="float:none"><a href="index.php"><img src="show_image.php?id=35" width="300" /><img src="show_image.php?id=37" width="100" /></a></div>	[10:44]
xavi	mmm, and why did it work fine in 4.2, then?	[10:45]
luciash	no idea, i just want to make sure it is not that first	[10:45]
xavi	if something chagned in tiki (for better, I guess), that should be warned in the release notes, and/or doc.tw.o/Tiki5 page, etc. ah,. ok, I'll try that right now	[10:45]
luciash	always try to have valid xhtml to prevent unwanted renderings xavi: but i think it will be something else related with the tpls of article submission maybe	[10:45]
yonixxxxx	i need to change my header content depending on the language. i tried {if $language eq "en"}....{else}...{/if}	[10:47]
luciash	xavi: iirc the articles were pretty much re-coded in 5	[10:47]
yonixxxxx	didn;t work... may be there is no $language ? :)	[10:47]
luciash	yonixxxxx: try $lang	[10:47]
xavi	mmm, luci, but that behavior is the same as in tiki4.2 well, tiki 4.x moreover, my left column is set as never shown by the admin, and when in edit submission, the left column is displayed (it happened in 4.x, and also in 5.0rc1)	[10:47]
yonixxxxx	luciash... same :(	[10:49]
luciash	xavi: you mean the article edit submissions tpls were not touched from 4.x to 5.x ?	[10:49]
xavi	I don't know (I didn't look at svn), just realized that same behavior when in tiki interface	[10:50]
luciash	hmm, you mean same broken ?	[10:50]
xavi	still fine tunning the tiki site after upgrade yes, same broken/wrong layout	[10:50]
luciash	ah, ok	[10:50]
xavi	and logo in site header is not aligned to the left any more.... I wonder why	[10:51]
luciash	xavi: if you want me to look at it send me the list of issues in mail pls	[10:53]
xavi	ok, thanks, luci. Don't worry, I'll try to investigate a little myself (to see if I can fix it myself, and I learn what changed). Otehrwise, I'll send an email requesting help :-) and external rss feeds: I wonder if are they working fine for other people in 5.0rc1 I prefer first to ask/comment them here in irc, to find out if those are known issues already, etc.	[10:53]
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yonixxxxx	... I tried {if $language eq "en"} then $lang, $best_lang, $bl truth is somewhere else... :( i enter this code in "look'n'feel -> Custom Site Header"	[11:00]
luciash	xavi: sure, np	[11:01]
jonnyb	yonixxxxx: try switching on the debugger console	[11:01]
luciash	yonixxxxx: do u have featur i18n > multilingual site on ?	[11:01]
yonixxxxx	jonnyb ok i'll give a try lu yes	[11:02]
jonnyb	then do slist	[11:04]
yonixxxxx	yes i'm exactly there (first time i use the console :) )	[11:05]
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yonixxxxx	$PageLang ?	[11:05]
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yonixxxxx	nothing else about language... i check if it work	[11:06]
jonnyb	you can do sprint $PageLang to see what it contains (nothing for me)	[11:07]
yonixxxxx	:( same empty	[11:07]
jonnyb	aha - try sprint $pageLang lower case p (important)	[11:08]
yonixxxxx	he he ! "en" i'll to check the condition and if it switch the header properly for each language. TKS to enlight me about the debugger use !	[11:09]
jonnyb	my pleasure - people were talking about getting rid of it, so more people need to know about it i think	[11:10]
yonixxxxx	:) yes but aoutch... checking the pagelang is half helping for me. as i have to be sure every page got 3 versions for each language... could be messy for some part of the tw. Dam a $lang woukd have been so much easier.	[11:12]
jonnyb	next step is to grep for $lang in *.tpl (might be in there somewhere...)	[11:14]
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xavi	mmm, rss module seems to have disspeared in tiki5rc1 (as I can't find it in the interface to insert a module) arg, nope, there was no rss module. It0's not that. I'll keep digging for the issue (maybe new perms to display external feeds?) xavi keeps searching	[11:16]
ricks99	hi all :-)	[11:20]
xavi	hi ricks99 btw, jusst after (or during the upgrade), I see that some db errors where recorded in Tiki logs (tiki-syslog.php), such as: Unknown column 'tfg.backlinkPerms' in 'field list' -.... jonnyb, any idea what this might be? ^	[11:23]
jonnyb	hmm, backlinkPerms was something sylvieg added to filegals (i think)0 - no idea what they do - never switched them on, sorry sounds like maybe an install schema didn't get applied (again)	[11:26]
yonixxxxx	hi rick	[11:29]
luciash	xavi: seems you use adodb, right ?	[11:29]
xavi	ok, jonny, thanks luci: no idea I guess so I didn't manually specify pdo	[11:29]
luciash	tiki-syslo.php works only with adodb driver afaik ah nope, sorry, sql log	[11:29]
ricks99	hi xavi, yonixxxxx & jonnyb	[11:30]
jonnyb	hi ricks99	[11:30]
luciash	hi rick	[11:30]
ricks99	(& luciash)	[11:30]
luciash	luciash didn't know tiki-syslog records sql errors now	[11:30]
ricks99	:_)	[11:30]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27205 10/branches/5.x/lib/toolbars/tiki-admin_toolbars.js: [FIX] toolbars admin: fixes for custom tools list (thanks Jacob)	[11:33]
yonixxxxx	jonnyb: i found several entry in .tpl for lang including header.tpl like $prefs.available_languages, $LanguageName but using sprint they give me empty result. I should continu to check them all until i find one positive ?	[11:35]
jonnyb	ah - i'm not sure the db console handles arrays (like $prefs.blah_blah) - try it in a tpl and it might just work! :)	[11:37]
xavi	luciash: neither did I	[11:37]
jonnyb	you can do sprint $prefs though (it's a long list!!)	[11:37]
yonixxxxx	shorter than the grep output !!! :D	[11:39]
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xavi	jonnyb, fyi: loading the tiki-objectpermissions.php?group=Anonymous (for global perms), I got a warning by firefox: Script: http://intercanvis.net/lib/jquery/jquery.js:4733 got busy, etc. : "continue or abort?"	[11:41]
jonnyb	ay? (what is it about today - everything seems to be broken!) http://intercanvis.net/ not loading	[11:41]
xavi	oh well, in my case, I just tested an upgrade to tiki5.... dogfooding.... and sharing user experience after upgrade	[11:43]
jonnyb	i know - we need to fix these things	[11:44]
xavi	, so that, in case there is something still leaking... we can fix it before release	[11:44]
yonixxxxx	jonnyb : i found this : http://i44.tinypic.com/154j0jl.jpg how can i use it ? sprint say not found	[11:44]
jonnyb	the firefox warning is just that it's so slow at doing javascript it thinks it's an error - user safari ;)	[11:44]
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jonnyb	yonixxxxx: how do you mean? how does smarty work? see smarty.net for syntax etc	[11:45]
yonixxxxx	Huuu.... this is where i'm loosing it. :) I'm no dev. I won't do hacking into the code.	[11:46]
luciash	any idea why on localhost tiki keeps insisting on not to remember me and logging me out after a while ?	[11:47]
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xavi	back xavi had to reboot system - issues with the keyboard	[11:55]
jonnyb	have to go now for an hour or so - bbl	[11:56]
xavi	xavi also wonders what's wrong with today and things brekaing - even his keyboard	[11:56]
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xavi	sse you jonnyb too late	[11:56]
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xavi	luciash, no idea about remember me issue you said (from irc back log). It's been weird so many times... I'll have an eye open when I work in localhost	[11:58]
luciash	xavi: you never use remember me on localhost ? xavi: it keeps me logged in 20 mins max if i am idle no matter what amount of time i set in prefs	[11:59]
xavi	I stopped trying to use that feature long ago (it failed for me too many times). Maybe nowadays it's working better... so that's why I normally don't spend any time with that feature	[12:01]
luciash	ah, k it works fine on regular websites though	[12:01]
xavi	and yes, intercanvis.net is down	[12:01]
luciash	oups	[12:01]
xavi	maybe due to tiki5.0rc1 ? who knows... I'll reboot the apache in that server, just in case	[12:01]
chealer	luciash: no idea. remember me works, but not as long as it's supposed to?	[12:04]
luciash	chealer: i don't know if it works or if it is default tiki session timeout chealer: if i set remember me for 1 week, it doesn't but i have to re-login after 20 mins of not working with the Tiki on localhost only it's annoying only for the testing purposes that i have to re-login, not a big deal, but an annoyiance	[12:05]
chealer	luciash: there is no default session timeout. the session ends when the browser is closed.	[12:10]
luciash	also it seems in fivealive default theme the rememberme preference is not checked	[12:10]
chealer	luciash: so if you're still logged in after closing the browser, remember me is partially working.	[12:10]
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luciash	i don't close the browser... it simply says i am nomore logged in after a while of coming back to that browser window	[12:11]
chealer	luciash: hum... which browser do you use?	[12:12]
luciash	i have just changed the default settings for remember me now and will test again if it will keep me logged in for 1 week as i have set "localhost" for my domain now any browser	[12:13]
xavi	bbl	[12:14]
luciash	wiki RSS feed is useless :( it just renders plain text with .diffchar{color: red} garbage for every wiki page (branch5)	[12:18]
changi	just for memory, the second part of dev.two title is not visible with IE7	[12:20]
luciash	:( i guess we'll need RC2	[12:21]
changi	luciash: yes luciash: about external feed, it doesn't work since the first time i use it luciash: since 3.0	[12:22]
luciash	it's not external feed by rss feed produced by Tiki for its wiki pages tiki-wiki_rss.php?ver=2 Admin → Admin Home → Feeds to enable it	[12:23]
changi	luciash: i just enabled it and yes it's red :)	[12:24]
chealer	luciash: any browser is supposed to keep you logged in until the browser is closed. so it's not related to remember me	[12:26]
luciash	my rss reader doesn't display it red but only the plain text syntax instead chealer: not for me, all browsers i try keep me logging off from Tiki on localhost after some 20 mins... common Ubuntu here 20 mins of inactivity i mean (to be clear)	[12:26]
chealer	luciash: yes. can I try the site?	[12:29]
luciash	chealer: how could you try it if it is localhost only issue ??? if i will give you http://localhost or http://127.0.0.1 it will be useless i think ;)	[12:29]
changi	changi LOL	[12:31]
chealer	luciash: so you're behind a NAT?	[12:31]
luciash	if i would connect to myself via my public IP (which you can't now, because of my firewall is not setup so), it would work fine (the remember me) chealer: you could try it only if i would share my screen session though chealer: maybe later	[12:32]
chealer	luciash: I see what you meant. that's a bit complicated to debug then, but even more surprising	[12:35]
luciash	chealer: i wonder more that you haven't noticed it when testing tiki on your localhost or someone else	[12:35]
chealer	luciash: when did you start experiencing this?	[12:39]
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RavenC	hi everyone	[12:45]
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xavi	back external feeds work in info.tw.o	[13:05]
	mmmm, also in the same tiki5rc1 that I recently upgraded: I can't change site default language (under admin > L & F). It always shows as English	[13:13]
ricks99	man, you're finding all sorts of stuff, eh xavi?	[13:13]
xavi	yes, I feel weird as if it's only me finding weird behavior after upgrade to tiki5 it would be ok if it's only me... but I fear that this might be something that might (will?) happen to many other people with they upgrade to tiki5 I feel as the first time I reported that the admin lost admin perms after an upgrade it took many months until other people reproduced the issue, and find a solution you know what I mean, ricks99?	[13:14]
ricks99	y. it is certainly better to find these issues now, rather then after the release	[13:16]
yonixxxxx	I need a hand on a elseif: it seams something is wrong with {if xxxx}tttt{elseif xxxx}ttttt{else}ttttt{/if} yeah noob question :)	[13:18]
xavi	I can't change site language either with module switch language	[13:20]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: install problem - loop after 'security precaution' screen - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37206	[13:33]
xavi	mmmm, items list is now working in tiki5.0rc1... I wonder what changed in the last few hours....	[13:41]
yonixxxxx	cu l8tr !	[13:42]
jonnyb	hi & bye	[13:42]
yonixxxxx	yonixxxxx wear an helmet !	[13:42]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27206 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl: [FIX]tracker: link to proper tab tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27207 10/branches/5.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]tracker: editing a tracker was creating another field rating	[13:46]
xavi	sylvieg : items list works nowadays as expected in tiki5 (filter on status works). Maybe it was a cache issue an hour ago...	[13:57]
	aha.... some rss (external feeds) are shown nowadays , but not all that were shown in tiki 4.x .... (weird) mmm, the only difference that I can think of, is that I decided to run manually the script to upgrade the db from the console , since I saw a blank page at the upgrade process from tiki-install.php (in theory, all sql was executed successfully, as reported by tiki-install.php; the blank page was just after that step) some rss are starting to work currently	[14:09]
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xavi	^ ricks99, jonnyb, luciash and sylvieg	[14:12]
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xavi	so maybe the problem I had was some (hidden) issue with the installer (tiki-install.php)... and fixed with the manual upgrade of db in my case, through sh doc/devtools/sqlupgrade.sh since it is a multitiki anyway, fyi... ^	[14:13]
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xavi	changi, external feeds work for me (even in 5.0rc1). The problem seemed to be with tiki not showing the feeds after the upgrade, and the "refresh" button for external feeds doing nothing. Once they naturally refresh (according to their configuration), they seem to show as expected also phew....	[14:29]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27208 10/branches/5.x/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] Theme Control: Restore 'None' option on them options tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27209 10/branches/5.x/ (lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php setup_fckeditor.php): [FIX] FCKEditor - use theme control if set	[14:31]
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xavi	well, most weird things that I described a few hours ago are under control. And the ones which are not, have been added to the dev.tw.o/Tiki5 page :-)	[16:47]
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xavi	last rare one is calendar: tiki-calendar.php seems to work in dev.tw.o, but it doesn't show anything for me in my newly upgraded site, and I remember someone complaining about the same in tikiwiki-devel list, I think who knows....	[16:48]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27210 10/branches/5.x/lang/cs/language.php: czech language: xhtml rendering validation fix	[16:56]
luciash	xavi: yep, noticed that too on your site	[16:56]
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rick_	hi does anyone know how to pull up the teme emos on the tikiwiki web site? When I use the THEMES button at the top of the main TikiWiki web page (http://info.tikiwiki.org/) there is a list of themes, but when I select them or the "DEMO" link appearing there, I just get the same document oops apologies for typos above -- wonly keyboard;; teme == theme, emos == demos wonKy keyboard that is :(	[17:38]
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ricks99	u can see many available themes from the tikit themes website	[17:55]
omstefanov	xavi and yonixxxxx (I know you're offline): Site language is actually stored in $prefs['language'].	[17:56]
xavi	omstefanov: ? so that? xavi confused ricks99: no idea about your issue	[17:56]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27211 10/branches/5.x/lib/diff/renderer_character.php: [ENH] slightly enhanced rendering of chars in diffs (especially RSS feeds for Wiki pages)	[17:59]
omstefanov	xavi: sorry if I'm confusing you. Was scanning msgs from earlier today and saw yonixxxxx was having trouble finding his language. Probably my quick (bad) reading saw you as part of that discussion.	[17:59]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27212 10/branches/5.x/tiki-wiki_rss.php: [FIX] fixed rendering of RSS "diff" feeds for Wiki pages	[18:02]
xavi	hi Olaf :-) ( omstefanov ) My problem was that I can't change site language frmo English to anotehr language just after the upgrade from 4.2 to 5.0rc1 but thanks for the tip (even if it was not me who needed it) it's always nice to see people willing to help others :-) luciash: fyi. did you see the profile page from a site with lots of data inside already? e.g.: http://intercanvis.net/tiki-user_information.php?userId=2#content4	[18:03]
luciash	can you please enable rss feeds for wiki pages on Admin > Admin Home > Feeds and test ?	[18:06]
xavi	I guess that we'll need some pagination, or filtering, of something...	[18:06]
luciash	hoping my commits are better than what was there before	[18:06]
xavi	mmm, rss feeds for wiki pages were known to be eager in memory I'll do on doc.tw.o ;-) (dogfooding!) ah, sorry, you mean using your latest fixes, don't you? r27212, I guess so that... I'll see where do I test...	[18:06]
luciash	yep i don't know about the profile page as you ask on doc.tw.o i don't see the rss link down there in the footer, so you have to enable it first i think	[18:08]
omstefanov	xavi: I found it confusing at first that "Site Language" value is NOT stored in $prefs['site_language'] - where one would expect it, but in $prefs['language']	[18:10]
xavi	luciash: rss enabled in http://intercanvis.net for wiki omstefanov: I see bbl	[18:11]
omstefanov	Does anyone know where this is processed? {LANG (notlang="fr]}lengthy text one wouldn't want to add to custom.php{LANG}{LANG (lang="fr]}texte long on ne voudrait pas d'ajouter à custom.php{LANG} sorry, should read {LANG (notlang="fr")} and {LANG (lang="fr")}. this IRC screen is so small ...	[18:16]
ricks99	@omstefanov: isn't that the LANG plugin?	[18:19]
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ricks99	../lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_lang.php	[18:19]
CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27213 10/branches/proposals/3.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: tikiwiki: [bp/r20164][FIX]tracker: get the field value for an existing item that is only visible for admin and creator (when the user selector is not in the list of fields) tikiwiki: (already in 4.x)	[18:29]
xavi	back luciash, did it work as expected? for me it's taking ages tolead that page s/tolead/to load luciash: "profile page as you ask". Ah, ok, I thought that was from your improvements for social networking. It must be from somebody else, then luciash: tiki-wiki_rss.php?ver=2 produces no content for me in intercanvis.net after a looong while or server time I disable it (I don't want to kill that shared hosting - I presume it's as eager in memory as before)	[18:37]
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xavi	c u all	[18:54]
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omstefanov	ricks99: yes, it is the LANG plugin. How silly of me! I was looking for it in smarty wiki and other places. The all caps way it is used led me astray. Thanks. Have now found it.	[20:18]
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TonyOlivero	I'm clearly an idiot, but I can't seem to get permissions right. When I try to set perms on a tracker and hit assign, I go back to look and none of the checkboxes are marked. It's like my settings aren't being saved.	[20:26]
jonnyb	which version TonyOlivero ?	[20:27]
TonyOlivero	4.2	[20:27]
jonnyb	odd, i'll check here	[20:28]
TonyOlivero	This tracker has been giving me odd behavior anyway. I'm not really sure what's happening.	[20:29]
jonnyb	trackers can get a life of their own sometimes (it seems) seems fine for me - which browser?	[20:29]
TonyOlivero	IE.	[20:30]
jonnyb	do you have another handy?	[20:31]
TonyOlivero	It was also not showing fields when I tried inserting items aas a user with category perms in the tracker's category sure. i'll try in FF.	[20:31]
jonnyb	safari or chrome are fastest FF will work, takes a while to load tho	[20:31]
TonyOlivero	Neither one works well with my screenreader. Same result. I enable the ability to view trackers and hit Assign. comes back unchecked.	[20:32]
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jonnyb	can you edit global perms ok?	[20:37]
TonyOlivero	Actually, I beliee it behaved the same when tried it a few minutes ago.	[20:37]
jonnyb	just go to tiki-objectpermissions.php	[20:37]
TonyOlivero	no luck. same thing	[20:40]
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jonnyb	is there a different tiki you can try it on?	[20:48]
TonyOlivero	We odn't have anoher install. don't ahve another	[20:52]
jonnyb	are you getting any javascript errors? (check in the browser "console")	[20:55]
TonyOlivero	Nothing's showing in the status bar like they usually do	[20:59]
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jonnyb	hmm - are you sure it's up to date? there was a bug like that in 4.0ish (beta i thought)	[21:04]
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RavenC	have a nice evening everyone	[21:22]
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CIA-56	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27214 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_profiles.php: [FIX] Reapply profile: restore order of execution to that in 5.x ("forget and reapply" was just forgetting, not reapplying)	[21:49]
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Gergely	Hi, I am on 5.0Beta and the tracker's user selector / option 1 (=autoassign) does not work. Has such issue been fixed since then? When the user selector field is added to the Fields, then it gives a list to choose. If it is not in the Fields list, then it does not care about it.	[23:47]

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