morning all (again ?)
hu ? I just install a new svn 5.x tw, the tiki-install page seams to have troubles with the his default style http://israelfr.com/5x.html/tiki-install.php
it was only after i process to the db selection and upgrade that the style went back (hope this help)
polom
polom
hi all
ahoj
yonixxxxx: :) boker tov
yonixxxxx: or shalom ?
:-p
:) Shalom is general, hello. Boker Tov is good morning. Now should be Tso'orayim Tovim (good middle of the day) ;)
jonnyb: i think the fivealive FF bug with right column is showstopper, what do you think ?
yonixxxxx: eh, too complicated
jonnyb: considering it is default theme now :-\
luciash: for me it's happening in all themes (even thenews!) so definitely a blocker imho
boker tov will be just fine
have to ask gary
Lu have you seen my email about a brand new install this morning ?
i can't see what's broken it though -it was recent, i'm sure it was ok in b2
yonixxxxx: sorry, yes, quickly read that... but no clue
jonnyb: yep, me too
jonnyb: i suspect some JS
strange... exactly 24hours from now i had no such probleme
because when you hide it and comes back the content is there suddenly
hmm? could be
ah, ok - but why not all pages then?
(if you have enabled the hiding of left/right columns)
http://i42.tinypic.com/13yjmza.jpg
jonnyb: oh ? i thought it is on all pages
brb
yonixxxxx: weird
yes
as the db was set (an previous 5.x) and updated the style came back
jonnyb: maybe it can cause some improper xhtml code, because validator says there are some 476 Errors now :(
b
jonnyb: for example
- (sigh)
http://xxxxxx.xxx/tiki-login.php
Thanks!!
np
Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3185 - - Registration: Spurious Invalid Email Address Message - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3185
polom
hola xavi
I?ve just upgraded http://intercanvis.net to 5.0rc1, and I see a few issues....
hi luci :-)
one of the issues is "theme"-related :-) in articles fature (using a modified thenews theme )
hi xavi
when posting a new article, the horizontal bar with menu is not shown ( http://intercanvis.net/tiki-edit_submission.php )
hi jonny
that problem was also in 4.2, btw
same problem with "items list" field type, which seems not to work with 5.0rc1 (it didn't with 4.2 either, but did work in previous versions, afaik)
and some of the new issues: external rss feeds stopped displaying (they seemed to work well in 4.2)
sylvieg ? is "items list" tracker field type working for you in tiki5 ?
luciash: my custom site header at intercanvis.net is:
could this produce some interference with edit submission???
so that the horizontal bar & menu dissapear then ?
xavi: try valid xhtml
"valid xhtml" ?
also the position of the logo, is different from where it was in 4.2 with the same code
xavi:
mmm, and why did it work fine in 4.2, then?
no idea, i just want to make sure it is not that first
if something chagned in tiki (for better, I guess), that should be warned in the release notes, and/or doc.tw.o/Tiki5 page, etc.
ah,. ok, I'll try that right now
always try to have valid xhtml to prevent unwanted renderings
xavi: but i think it will be something else related with the tpls of article submission maybe
i need to change my header content depending on the language. i tried
{if $language eq "en"}....{else}...{/if}
xavi: iirc the articles were pretty much re-coded in 5
didn;t work... may be there is no $language ? :)
yonixxxxx: try $lang
mmm, luci, but that behavior is the same as in tiki4.2
well, tiki 4.x
moreover, my left column is set as never shown by the admin, and when in edit submission, the left column is displayed
(it happened in 4.x, and also in 5.0rc1)
luciash... same :(
xavi: you mean the article edit submissions tpls were not touched from 4.x to 5.x ?
I don't know (I didn't look at svn), just realized that same behavior when in tiki interface
hmm, you mean same broken ?
still fine tunning the tiki site after upgrade
yes, same broken/wrong layout
ah, ok
and logo in site header is not aligned to the left any more.... I wonder why
xavi: if you want me to look at it send me the list of issues in mail pls
ok, thanks, luci. Don't worry, I'll try to investigate a little myself (to see if I can fix it myself, and I learn what changed). Otehrwise, I'll send an email requesting help :-)
and external rss feeds: I wonder if are they working fine for other people in 5.0rc1
I prefer first to ask/comment them here in irc, to find out if those are known issues already, etc.
... I tried {if $language eq "en"} then $lang, $best_lang, $bl
truth is somewhere else... :(
i enter this code in "look'n'feel -> Custom Site Header"
xavi: sure, np
yonixxxxx: try switching on the debugger console
yonixxxxx: do u have featur i18n > multilingual site on ?
jonnyb ok i'll give a try
lu yes
then do slist
yes i'm exactly there (first time i use the console :) )
$PageLang ?
nothing else about language... i check if it work
you can do sprint $PageLang to see what it contains (nothing for me)
:( same
empty
aha - try sprint $pageLang
lower case p (important)
he he ! "en" i'll to check the condition and if it switch the header properly for each language. TKS to enlight me about the debugger use !
my pleasure - people were talking about getting rid of it, so more people need to know about it i think
:) yes but aoutch... checking the pagelang is half helping for me. as i have to be sure every page got 3 versions for each language... could be messy for some part of the tw. Dam a $lang woukd have been so much easier.
next step is to grep for $lang in *.tpl (might be in there somewhere...)
mmm, rss module seems to have disspeared in tiki5rc1 (as I can't find it in the interface to insert a module)
arg, nope, there was no rss module. It0's not that. I'll keep digging for the issue (maybe new perms to display external feeds?)
hi all :-)
hi ricks99
btw, jusst after (or during the upgrade), I see that some db errors where recorded in Tiki logs (tiki-syslog.php), such as:
Unknown column 'tfg.backlinkPerms' in 'field list' -....
jonnyb, any idea what this might be? ^
hmm, backlinkPerms was something sylvieg added to filegals (i think)0 - no idea what they do - never switched them on, sorry
sounds like maybe an install schema didn't get applied (again)
hi rick
xavi: seems you use adodb, right ?
ok, jonny, thanks
luci: no idea
I guess so
I didn't manually specify pdo
tiki-syslo.php works only with adodb driver afaik
ah nope, sorry, sql log
hi xavi, yonixxxxx & jonnyb
hi ricks99
hi rick
(& luciash)
:_)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27205 10/branches/5.x/lib/toolbars/tiki-admin_toolbars.js: [FIX] toolbars admin: fixes for custom tools list (thanks Jacob)
jonnyb: i found several entry in .tpl for lang including header.tpl like $prefs.available_languages, $LanguageName but using sprint they give me empty result. I should continu to check them all until i find one positive ?
ah - i'm not sure the db console handles arrays (like $prefs.blah_blah) - try it in a tpl and it might just work! :)
luciash: neither did I
you can do sprint $prefs though (it's a long list!!)
shorter than the grep output !!! :D
jonnyb, fyi: loading the tiki-objectpermissions.php?group=Anonymous (for global perms), I got a warning by firefox:
Script: http://intercanvis.net/lib/jquery/jquery.js:4733
got busy, etc. : "continue or abort?"
ay? (what is it about today - everything seems to be broken!)
http://intercanvis.net/ not loading
oh well, in my case, I just tested an upgrade to tiki5.... dogfooding....
and sharing user experience after upgrade
i know - we need to fix these things
, so that, in case there is something still leaking... we can fix it before release
jonnyb : i found this : http://i44.tinypic.com/154j0jl.jpg how can i use it ? sprint say not found
the firefox warning is just that it's so slow at doing javascript it thinks it's an error - user safari ;)
yonixxxxx: how do you mean? how does smarty work? see smarty.net for syntax etc
Huuu.... this is where i'm loosing it. :) I'm no dev. I won't do hacking into the code.
any idea why on localhost tiki keeps insisting on not to remember me and logging me out after a while ?
back
have to go now for an hour or so - bbl
sse you jonnyb
too late
luciash, no idea about remember me issue you said (from irc back log). It's been weird so many times... I'll have an eye open when I work in localhost
xavi: you never use remember me on localhost ?
xavi: it keeps me logged in 20 mins max if i am idle no matter what amount of time i set in prefs
I stopped trying to use that feature long ago (it failed for me too many times). Maybe nowadays it's working better... so that's why I normally don't spend any time with that feature
ah, k
it works fine on regular websites though
and yes, intercanvis.net is down
oups
maybe due to tiki5.0rc1 ? who knows...
I'll reboot the apache in that server, just in case
luciash: no idea. remember me works, but not as long as it's supposed to?
chealer: i don't know if it works or if it is default tiki session timeout
chealer: if i set remember me for 1 week, it doesn't but i have to re-login after 20 mins of not working with the Tiki
on localhost only
it's annoying only for the testing purposes that i have to re-login, not a big deal, but an annoyiance
luciash: there is no default session timeout. the session ends when the browser is closed.
also it seems in fivealive default theme the rememberme preference is not checked
luciash: so if you're still logged in after closing the browser, remember me is partially working.
i don't close the browser... it simply says i am nomore logged in after a while of coming back to that browser window
luciash: hum... which browser do you use?
i have just changed the default settings for remember me now and will test again if it will keep me logged in for 1 week as i have set "localhost" for my domain now
any browser
bbl
wiki RSS feed is useless :(
it just renders plain text with .diffchar{color: red} garbage
for every wiki page
(branch5)
just for memory, the second part of dev.two title is not visible with IE7
:(
i guess we'll need RC2
luciash: yes
luciash: about external feed, it doesn't work since the first time i use it
luciash: since 3.0
it's not external feed by rss feed produced by Tiki for its wiki pages
tiki-wiki_rss.php?ver=2
Admin → Admin Home → Feeds
to enable it
luciash: i just enabled it
and yes it's red :)
luciash: any browser is supposed to keep you logged in until the browser is closed. so it's not related to remember me
my rss reader doesn't display it red but only the plain text syntax instead
chealer: not for me, all browsers i try keep me logging off from Tiki on localhost after some 20 mins... common Ubuntu here
20 mins of inactivity i mean (to be clear)
luciash: yes. can I try the site?
chealer: how could you try it if it is *localhost* only issue ???
if i will give you http://localhost or http://127.0.0.1 it will be useless i think ;)
luciash: so you're behind a NAT?
if i would connect to myself via my public IP (which you can't now, because of my firewall is not setup so), it would work fine (the remember me)
chealer: you could try it only if i would share my screen session though
chealer: maybe later
luciash: I see what you meant. that's a bit complicated to debug then, but even more surprising
chealer: i wonder more that you haven't noticed it when testing tiki on your localhost
or someone else
luciash: when did you start experiencing this?
hi everyone
back
external feeds work in info.tw.o
mmmm, also in the same tiki5rc1 that I recently upgraded: I can't change site default language (under admin > L & F). It always shows as English
man, you're finding all sorts of stuff, eh xavi?
yes, I feel weird
as if it's only me finding weird behavior after upgrade to tiki5
it would be ok if it's only me... but I fear that this might be something that might (will?) happen to many other people with they upgrade to tiki5
I feel as the first time I reported that the admin lost admin perms after an upgrade
it took many months until other people reproduced the issue, and find a solution
you know what I mean, ricks99?
y. it is certainly better to find these issues now, rather then after the release
I need a hand on a elseif: it seams something is wrong with {if xxxx}tttt{elseif xxxx}ttttt{else}ttttt{/if}
yeah noob question :)
I can't change site language either with module switch language
New Forum Posts: install problem - loop after 'security precaution' screen - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37206
mmmm, items list is now working in tiki5.0rc1... I wonder what changed in the last few hours....
cu l8tr !
hi & bye
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27206 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl: [FIX]tracker: link to proper tab
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27207 10/branches/5.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]tracker: editing a tracker was creating another field rating
sylvieg : items list works nowadays as expected in tiki5 (filter on status works). Maybe it was a cache issue an hour ago...
aha.... some rss (external feeds) are shown nowadays , but not all that were shown in tiki 4.x .... (weird)
mmm, the only difference that I can think of, is that I decided to run manually the script to upgrade the db from the console , since I saw a blank page at the upgrade process from tiki-install.php (in theory, all sql was executed successfully, as reported by tiki-install.php; the blank page was just after that step)
some rss are starting to work currently
^ ricks99, jonnyb, luciash and sylvieg
so maybe the problem I had was some (hidden) issue with the installer (tiki-install.php)...
and fixed with the manual upgrade of db
in my case, through sh doc/devtools/sqlupgrade.sh since it is a multitiki
anyway, fyi... ^
changi, external feeds work for me (even in 5.0rc1). The problem seemed to be with tiki not showing the feeds after the upgrade, and the "refresh" button for external feeds doing nothing. Once they naturally refresh (according to their configuration), they seem to show as expected also
phew....
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27208 10/branches/5.x/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] Theme Control: Restore 'None' option on them options
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27209 10/branches/5.x/ (lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php setup_fckeditor.php): [FIX] FCKEditor - use theme control if set
bbl
New Forum Posts: Tiki 5.0 RC 1 - Forum Navigation / GUI - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37212
re
back
wb xavi
well, most weird things that I described a few hours ago are under control. And the ones which are not, have been added to the dev.tw.o/Tiki5 page :-)
last rare one is calendar: tiki-calendar.php seems to work in dev.tw.o, but it doesn't show anything for me in my newly upgraded site, and I remember someone complaining about the same in tikiwiki-devel list, I think
who knows....
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27210 10/branches/5.x/lang/cs/language.php: czech language: xhtml rendering validation fix
xavi: yep, noticed that too on your site
hi does anyone know how to pull up the teme emos on the tikiwiki web site? When I use the THEMES button at the top of the main TikiWiki web page (http://info.tikiwiki.org/) there is a list of themes, but when I select them or the "DEMO" link appearing there, I just get the same document
oops apologies for typos above -- wonly keyboard;; teme == theme, emos == demos
wonKy keyboard that is :(
u can see many available themes from the tikit themes website
xavi and yonixxxxx (I know you're offline): Site language is actually stored in $prefs['language'].
omstefanov: ?
so that?
ricks99: no idea about your issue
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27211 10/branches/5.x/lib/diff/renderer_character.php: [ENH] slightly enhanced rendering of chars in diffs (especially RSS feeds for Wiki pages)
xavi: sorry if I'm confusing you. Was scanning msgs from earlier today and saw yonixxxxx was having trouble finding his language. Probably my quick (bad) reading saw you as part of that discussion.
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27212 10/branches/5.x/tiki-wiki_rss.php: [FIX] fixed rendering of RSS "diff" feeds for Wiki pages
hi Olaf :-) ( omstefanov ) My problem was that I can't change site language frmo English to anotehr language just after the upgrade from 4.2 to 5.0rc1
but thanks for the tip (even if it was not me who needed it)
it's always nice to see people willing to help others :-)
luciash: fyi. did you see the profile page from a site with lots of data inside already?
e.g.: http://intercanvis.net/tiki-user_information.php?userId=2#content4
can you please enable rss feeds for wiki pages on Admin > Admin Home > Feeds and test ?
I guess that we'll need some pagination, or filtering, of something...
hoping my commits are better than what was there before
mmm, rss feeds for wiki pages were known to be eager in memory
I'll do on doc.tw.o ;-) (dogfooding!)
ah, sorry, you mean using your latest fixes, don't you?
r27212, I guess
so that... I'll see where do I test...
yep
i don't know about the profile page as you ask
on doc.tw.o i don't see the rss link down there in the footer, so you have to enable it first i think
xavi: I found it confusing at first that "Site Language" value is NOT stored in $prefs['site_language'] - where one would expect it, but in $prefs['language']
luciash: rss enabled in http://intercanvis.net for wiki
omstefanov: I see
bbl
Does anyone know where this is processed? {LANG (notlang="fr]}lengthy text one wouldn't want to add to custom.php{LANG}{LANG (lang="fr]}texte long on ne voudrait pas d'ajouter à custom.php{LANG}
sorry, should read {LANG (notlang="fr")} and {LANG (lang="fr")}. this IRC screen is so small ...
@omstefanov: isn't that the LANG plugin?
../lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_lang.php
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27213 10/branches/proposals/3.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php:
tikiwiki: [bp/r20164][FIX]tracker: get the field value for an existing item that is only visible for admin and creator (when the user selector is not in the list of fields)
tikiwiki: (already in 4.x)
back
luciash, did it work as expected?
for me it's taking ages tolead that page
s/tolead/to load
luciash: "profile page as you ask". Ah, ok, I thought that was from your improvements for social networking. It must be from somebody else, then
luciash: tiki-wiki_rss.php?ver=2 produces no content for me in intercanvis.net
after a looong while or server time
I disable it (I don't want to kill that shared hosting - I presume it's as eager in memory as before)
c u all
ricks99: yes, it is the LANG plugin. How silly of me! I was looking for it in smarty wiki and other places. The all caps way it is used led me astray. Thanks. Have now found it.
I'm clearly an idiot, but I can't seem to get permissions right. When I try to set perms on a tracker and hit assign, I go back to look and none of the checkboxes are marked. It's like my settings aren't being saved.
which version TonyOlivero ?
4.2
odd, i'll check here
This tracker has been giving me odd behavior anyway. I'm not really sure what's happening.
trackers can get a life of their own sometimes (it seems)
seems fine for me - which browser?
IE.
do you have another handy?
It was also not showing fields when I tried inserting items aas a user with category perms in the tracker's category
sure. i'll try in FF.
safari or chrome are fastest
FF will work, takes a while to load tho
Neither one works well with my screenreader.
Same result. I enable the ability to view trackers and hit Assign. comes back unchecked.
can you edit global perms ok?
Actually, I beliee it behaved the same when tried it a few minutes ago.
just go to tiki-objectpermissions.php
no luck. same thing
is there a different tiki you can try it on?
We odn't have anoher install.
*don't ahve another*
are you getting any javascript errors? (check in the browser "console")
Nothing's showing in the status bar like they usually do
hmm - are you sure it's up to date? there was a bug like that in 4.0ish (beta i thought)
have a nice evening everyone
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27214 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_profiles.php: [FIX] Reapply profile: restore order of execution to that in 5.x ("forget and reapply" was just forgetting, not reapplying)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27215 10/trunk/tiki-payment.php: [FIX] Payment: a couple of error messages for payment gateway
Hi, I am on 5.0Beta and the tracker's user selector / option 1 (=autoassign) does not work. Has such issue been fixed since then?
When the user selector field is added to the Fields, then it gives a list to choose. If it is not in the Fields list, then it does not care about it.