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   yonixxxxx: morning all (again ?)
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   yonixxxxx: hu ? I just install a new svn 5.x tw, the tiki-install page seams to have troubles with the his default style http://israelfr.com/5x.html/tiki-install.php
   <br> it was only after i process to the db selection and upgrade that the style went back (hope this help)
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   luciash: polom
   yonixxxxx: polom
   jonnyb: hi all
   yonixxxxx: ahoj
   luciash: <u>yonixxxxx</u>: :) boker tov
   <br> <u>yonixxxxx</u>: or shalom ?
   <br> :-p
   yonixxxxx: :) Shalom is general, hello. Boker Tov is good morning. Now should be Tso'orayim Tovim (good middle of the day) ;)
   luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: i think the fivealive FF bug with right column is showstopper, what do you think ?
   <br> <u>yonixxxxx</u>: eh, too complicated
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: considering it is default theme now :-[08:52] &lt;jonnyb&gt; luciash: for me it's happening in all themes (even thenews!) so definitely a blocker imho
   yonixxxxx: boker tov will be just fine
   luciash: have to ask gary
   yonixxxxx: Lu have you seen my email about a brand new install this morning ?
   jonnyb: i can't see what's broken it though -it was recent, i'm sure it was ok in b2
   luciash: <u>yonixxxxx</u>: sorry, yes, quickly read that... but no clue
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: yep, me too
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: i suspect some JS
   yonixxxxx: strange... exactly 24hours from now i had no such probleme
   luciash: because when you hide it and comes back the content is there suddenly
   jonnyb: hmm? could be
   <br> ah, ok - but why not all pages then?
   luciash: (if you have enabled the hiding of left/right columns)
   yonixxxxx: http://i42.tinypic.com/13yjmza.jpg
   luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: oh ? i thought it is on all pages
   jonnyb: brb
   luciash: <u>yonixxxxx</u>: weird
   yonixxxxx: yes
   <br> as the db was set (an previous 5.x) and updated the style came back
   luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: maybe it can cause some improper xhtml code, because validator says there are some 476 Errors now :(
   jonnyb: b
   luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: for example &lt;div id='toc'&gt;&lt;ul class="toc"&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='#Community_Currencies_Take
   jonnyb: wa!? i did a day of validation a while back - it was all clean!
   luciash: from http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Community+Currencies
   <br> ul after ul is not correct obviously (comes from the maketoc)
   jonnyb: anyway, have some other monday morning stuff to attend to - but i'll have a look later if you can't nail it
   luciash: oki
   jonnyb: (cc is one of them! :) )
   luciash: i will validate my local branch still
   <br> oh my god, why clearing tiki cache takes ages mow ?
   <br> s/mow/now
   chealer: polom
   jonnyb: polom chealer
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: I'm guessing re-building the cache is the problem
   <br> hi jonnyb
   jonnyb: especially the 'public' one with the prefs search indexes in
   luciash: hi chealer
   <br> maybe
   <br> but it is fresh install (not much in there to cache)
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   -: luciash can't find in tikilib where the extra &lt;ul&gt; comes from
   luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: can you give me a link to page where the right column is ok ? i really see the problem on all pages of dev.tw.o for example
   jonnyb: right column? oh, i thought we were talking left column
   <br> and for me it only seems to disappear on admin/features
   <br> in sarafi/chrome
   <br> also safari ;)
   <br> what's up for you?
   luciash: right column is always "hidden" in Firefox
   <br> until i click hide right column icon and show again
   jonnyb: you mean like on http://doc.tikiwiki.org ?
   <br> it's fine for me
   luciash: dev
   jonnyb: dev happy too
   luciash: weird
   <br> are you logged in ?
   jonnyb: ah, no - 1 min...
   luciash: you are right, FF 3.5.9 seems fine
   jonnyb: do you mean the problem where you hide the right col, and then reload the page and it shows a blank col?
   <br> that's been there for ages
   luciash: must be my Flock (dunno what FF version it is based on actually)
   jonnyb: i couldn't work out how to fix it (spent a couple of hours - gave in)
   luciash: sorry for false alert
   <br> no i mean it happens immediately
   jonnyb: once you click the show/hide again, and it appears it's ok, right?
   luciash: in my Flock 2.5.6
   <br> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.16) Gecko/2009122206 Firefox/3.0.16 Flock/2.5.6
   <br> ah, it is based on FF 3.0.16
   jonnyb: basically i couldn't fix it without changing lite.css (and that way lies madness! :) )
   luciash: mybe it is FF 3.0.x problem only
   jonnyb: what's the prob?
   <br> (again... sorry)
   luciash: the prob is the content of the right column is not displayed until i hide and show the right column again using the show/hide icon
   jonnyb: first time you go to a site? or after you hide it?
   luciash: also i have horizontal scrollbar down there with pretty huge gap to right
   <br> first time i go to any page on the site
   jonnyb: the cookie is per site - it won't happen unless you hide it first, i believe
   luciash: maybe you need a screencast :)
   <br> (i am using yuuguu.com to share my screen if you want)
   <br> or we can dogfood BBB ;)
   jonnyb: no, it sounds like what i'm talking about - any browser i think - hide right hand col, reload page - right hand margin is there, but no column
   <br> have to do other stuff, sorry
   luciash: sure, yes, it sounds like that.... maybe i have hidden it first time and now it does by default page load too
   <br> i have just figured out it does for me in Firefox 3.0 only (and Flock is based on it) so it doesn't seem to be a big problem anyway
   <br> i presume most people use 3.5.x or 3.6 nowadays
   <br> must be some bug in FF 3.0.x
   <br> and it does no matter if you're logged in or not
   <br> FF 3.5 and FF 3.6 or any other browser is fine for me
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: it is slightly different problem than what you describe i think but very close
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: anyway, as i said, not a big deal, don't worry about it i think
   jonnyb: sounds like it must be related - not happening with left col, yes?
   luciash: nope
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   Danguba: can anyone hel mi whit site access page on tiki?
   <br> can anyone help me with site access page on tiki?
   <br> I lost login page, geting HTTP error on typing domain name
   <br> How to retrive login page?
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   yonixxxxx: http://xxxxxx.xxx/tiki-login.php
   Danguba: Thanks!!
   yonixxxxx: np
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   xavi: polom
   luciash: hola xavi
   xavi: I?ve just upgraded http://intercanvis.net to 5.0rc1, and I see a few issues....
   <br> hi luci :-)
   <br> one of the issues is "theme"-related :-) in articles fature (using a modified thenews theme )
   jonnyb: hi xavi
   xavi: when posting a new article, the horizontal bar with menu is not shown  ( http://intercanvis.net/tiki-edit_submission.php )
   <br> hi jonny
   <br> that problem was also in 4.2, btw
   <br> same problem with "items list" field type, which seems not to work with 5.0rc1 (it didn't with 4.2 either, but did work in previous versions, afaik)
   <br> and some of the new issues: external rss feeds stopped displaying (they seemed to work well in 4.2)
   <br> sylvieg ? is "items list" tracker field type working for you in tiki5 ?
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: my custom site header at intercanvis.net is:
   <br> &lt;div  style="float:none"&gt;&lt;a href="index.php"&gt;&lt;img src="show_image.php?id=35" width="300" &gt;&lt;img src="show_image.php?id=37" width="100"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
   <br> could this produce some interference with edit submission???
   <br> so that the horizontal bar &amp; menu dissapear then ?
   luciash: <u>xavi</u>: try valid xhtml
   xavi: "valid xhtml" ?
   <br> also the position of the logo, is different from where it was in 4.2 with the same code
   luciash: <u>xavi</u>: &lt;div style="float:none"&gt;&lt;a href="index.php"&gt;&lt;img src="show_image.php?id=35" width="300" /&gt;&lt;img src="show_image.php?id=37" width="100" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
   xavi: mmm, and why did it work fine in 4.2, then?
   luciash: no idea, i just want to make sure it is not that first
   xavi: if something chagned in tiki (for better, I guess), that should be warned in the release notes, and/or doc.tw.o/Tiki5 page, etc.
   <br> ah,. ok, I'll try that right now
   luciash: always try to have valid xhtml to prevent unwanted renderings
   <br> <u>xavi</u>: but i think it will be something else related with the tpls of article submission maybe
   yonixxxxx: i need to change my header content depending on the language. i tried
   <br> {if $language eq "en"}....{else}...{/if}
   luciash: <u>xavi</u>: iirc the articles were pretty much re-coded in 5
   yonixxxxx: didn;t work... may be there is no $language ? :)
   luciash: <u>yonixxxxx</u>: try $lang
   xavi: mmm, luci, but that behavior is the same as in tiki4.2
   <br> well, tiki 4.x
   <br> moreover, my left column is set as never shown by the admin, and when in edit submission, the left column is displayed
   <br> (it happened in 4.x, and also in 5.0rc1)
   yonixxxxx: luciash... same :(
   luciash: <u>xavi</u>: you mean the article edit submissions tpls were not touched from 4.x to 5.x ?
   xavi: I don't know (I didn't look at svn), just realized that same behavior when in tiki interface
   luciash: hmm, you mean same broken ?
   xavi: still fine tunning the tiki site after upgrade
   <br> yes, same broken/wrong layout
   luciash: ah, ok
   xavi: and logo in site header is not aligned to the left any more.... I wonder why
   luciash: <u>xavi</u>: if you want me to look at it send me the list of issues in mail pls
   xavi: ok, thanks, luci. Don't worry, I'll try to investigate a little myself (to see if I can fix it myself, and I learn what changed). Otehrwise, I'll send an email requesting help :-)
   <br> and external rss feeds: I wonder if are they working fine for other people in 5.0rc1
   <br> I prefer first to ask/comment them here in irc, to find out if those are known issues already, etc.
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   yonixxxxx: ... I tried {if $language eq "en"} then $lang, $best_lang, $bl
   <br> truth is somewhere else... :(
   <br> i enter this code in "look'n'feel -&gt; Custom Site Header"
   luciash: <u>xavi</u>: sure, np
   jonnyb: <u>yonixxxxx</u>: try switching on the debugger console
   luciash: <u>yonixxxxx</u>: do u have featur i18n &gt; multilingual site on ?
   yonixxxxx: jonnyb ok i'll give a try
   <br> lu yes
   jonnyb: then do slist
   yonixxxxx: yes i'm exactly there (first time i use the console :) )
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   yonixxxxx: $PageLang ?
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   yonixxxxx: nothing else about language... i check if it work
   jonnyb: you can do sprint $PageLang to see what it contains (nothing for me)
   yonixxxxx: :( same
   <br> empty
   jonnyb: aha - try sprint $pageLang
   <br> lower case p (important)
   yonixxxxx: he he ! "en" i'll to check the condition and if it switch the header properly for each language. TKS to enlight me about the debugger use !
   jonnyb: my pleasure - people were talking about getting rid of it, so more people need to know about it i think
   yonixxxxx: :) yes but aoutch... checking the pagelang is half helping for me. as i have to be sure every page got 3 versions for each language... could be messy for some part of the tw. Dam a $lang woukd have been so much easier.
   jonnyb: next step is to grep for $lang in *.tpl (might be in there somewhere...)
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   xavi: mmm, rss module seems to have disspeared in tiki5rc1 (as I can't find it in the interface to insert a module)
   <br> arg, nope, there was no rss module. It0's not that. I'll keep digging for the issue (maybe new perms to display external feeds?)
   -: xavi keeps searching
   ricks99: hi all :-)
   xavi: hi ricks99
   <br> btw, jusst after (or during the upgrade), I see that some db errors where recorded in Tiki logs (tiki-syslog.php), such as:
   <br> Unknown column 'tfg.backlinkPerms' in 'field list' -....
   <br> jonnyb, any idea what this might be? ^
   jonnyb: hmm, backlinkPerms was something sylvieg added to filegals (i think)0 - no idea what they do - never switched them on, sorry
   <br> sounds like maybe an install schema didn't get applied (again)
   yonixxxxx: hi rick
   luciash: <u>xavi</u>: seems you use adodb, right ?
   xavi: ok, jonny, thanks
   <br> <u>luci</u>: no idea
   <br> I guess so
   <br> I didn't manually specify pdo
   luciash: tiki-syslo.php works only with adodb driver afaik
   <br> ah nope, sorry, sql log
   ricks99: hi xavi, yonixxxxx &amp; jonnyb
   jonnyb: hi ricks99
   luciash: hi rick
   ricks99: (&amp; luciash)
   -: luciash didn't know tiki-syslog records sql errors now
   ricks99: :_)
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   yonixxxxx: <u>jonnyb</u>: i found several entry in .tpl for lang including header.tpl like $prefs.available_languages, $LanguageName but using sprint they give me empty result. I should continu to check them all until i find one positive ?
   jonnyb: ah - i'm not sure the db console handles arrays (like $prefs.blah_blah) - try it in a tpl and it might just work! :)
   xavi: <u>luciash</u>: neither did I
   jonnyb: you can do sprint $prefs though (it's a long list!!)
   yonixxxxx: shorter than the grep output !!! :D
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   xavi: jonnyb, fyi: loading the tiki-objectpermissions.php?group=Anonymous (for global perms), I got a warning by firefox:
   <br> <u>Script</u>: http://intercanvis.net/lib/jquery/jquery.js:4733
   <br> got busy, etc. : "continue or abort?"
   jonnyb: ay? (what is it about today - everything seems to be broken!)
   <br> http://intercanvis.net/ not loading
   xavi: oh well, in my case, I just tested an upgrade to tiki5.... dogfooding....
   <br> and sharing user experience after upgrade
   jonnyb: i know - we need to fix these things
   xavi: , so that, in case there is something still leaking... we can fix it before release
   yonixxxxx: jonnyb : i found this : http://i44.tinypic.com/154j0jl.jpg how can i use it ? sprint say not found
   jonnyb: the firefox warning is just that it's so slow at doing javascript it thinks it's an error - user safari ;)
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   jonnyb: <u>yonixxxxx</u>: how do you mean? how does smarty work? see smarty.net for syntax etc
   yonixxxxx: Huuu.... this is where i'm loosing it. :) I'm no dev. I won't do hacking into the code.
   luciash: any idea why on localhost tiki keeps insisting on not to remember me and logging me out after a while ?
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   xavi: back
   -: xavi had to reboot system - issues with the keyboard
   jonnyb: have to go now for an hour or so - bbl
   -: xavi also wonders what's wrong with today and things brekaing - even his keyboard
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   xavi: sse you jonnyb
   <br> too late
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   xavi: luciash, no idea about remember me issue you said (from irc back log). It's been weird so many times... I'll have an eye open when I work in localhost
   luciash: <u>xavi</u>: you never use remember me on localhost ?
   <br> <u>xavi</u>: it keeps me logged in 20 mins max if i am idle no matter what amount of time i set in prefs
   xavi: I stopped trying to use that feature long ago (it failed for me too many times). Maybe nowadays it's working better... so that's why I normally don't spend any time with that feature
   luciash: ah, k
   <br> it works fine on regular websites though
   xavi: and yes, intercanvis.net is down
   luciash: oups
   xavi: maybe due to tiki5.0rc1 ? who knows...
   <br> I'll reboot the apache in that server, just in case
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: no idea. remember me works, but not as long as it's supposed to?
   luciash: <u>chealer</u>: i don't know if it works or if it is default tiki session timeout
   <br> <u>chealer</u>: if i set remember me for 1 week, it doesn't but i have to re-login after 20 mins of not working with the Tiki
   <br> on localhost only
   <br> it's annoying only for the testing purposes that i have to re-login, not a big deal, but an annoyiance
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: there is no default session timeout. the session ends when the browser is closed.
   luciash: also it seems in fivealive default theme the rememberme preference is not checked
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: so if you're still logged in after closing the browser, remember me is partially working.
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   luciash: i don't close the browser... it simply says i am nomore logged in after a while of coming back to that browser window
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: hum... which browser do you use?
   luciash: i have just changed the default settings for remember me now and will test again if it will keep me logged in for 1 week as i have set "localhost" for my domain now
   <br> any browser
   xavi: bbl
   luciash: wiki RSS feed is useless :(
   <br> it just renders plain text with .diffchar{color: red} garbage
   <br> for every wiki page
   <br> (branch5)
   changi: just for memory, the second part of dev.two title is not visible with IE7
   luciash: :(
   <br> i guess we'll need RC2
   changi: <u>luciash</u>: yes
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: about external feed, it doesn't work since the first time i use it
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: since 3.0
   luciash: it's not external feed by rss feed produced by Tiki for its wiki pages
   <br> tiki-wiki_rss.php?ver=2
   <br> Admin → Admin Home → Feeds
   <br> to enable it
   changi: <u>luciash</u>: i just enabled it
   <br> and yes it's red :)
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: any browser is supposed to keep you logged in until the browser is closed. so it's not related to remember me
   luciash: my rss reader doesn't display it red but only the plain text syntax instead
   <br> <u>chealer</u>: not for me, all browsers i try keep me logging off from Tiki on localhost after some 20 mins... common Ubuntu here
   <br> 20 mins of inactivity i mean (to be clear)
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: yes. can I try the site?
   luciash: <u>chealer</u>: how could you try it if it is *localhost* only issue ???
   <br> if i will give you http://localhost or http://127.0.0.1 it will be useless i think ;)
   -: changi LOL
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: so you're behind a NAT?
   luciash: if i would connect to myself via my public IP (which you can't now, because of my firewall is not setup so), it would work fine (the remember me)
   <br> <u>chealer</u>: you could try it only if i would share my screen session though
   <br> <u>chealer</u>: maybe later
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: I see what you meant. that's a bit complicated to debug then, but even more surprising
   luciash: <u>chealer</u>: i wonder more that you haven't noticed it when testing tiki on your localhost
   <br> or someone else
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: when did you start experiencing this?
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   RavenC: hi everyone
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   xavi: back
   <br> external feeds work in info.tw.o
   <br> mmmm, also in the same tiki5rc1 that I recently upgraded: I can't change site default language (under admin &gt; L &amp; F). It always shows as English
   ricks99: man, you're finding all sorts of stuff, eh xavi?
   xavi: yes, I feel weird
   <br> as if it's only me finding weird behavior after upgrade to tiki5
   <br> it would be ok if it's only me... but I fear that this might be something that might (will?) happen to many other people with they upgrade to tiki5
   <br> I feel as the first time I reported that the admin lost admin perms after an upgrade
   <br> it took many months until other people reproduced the issue, and find a solution
   <br> you know what I mean, ricks99?
   ricks99: y. it is certainly better to find these issues now, rather then after the release
   yonixxxxx: I need a hand on a elseif: it seams something is wrong with {if xxxx}tttt{elseif xxxx}ttttt{else}ttttt{/if}
   <br> yeah noob question :)
   xavi: I can't change site language either with module switch language
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   xavi: mmmm, items list is now working in tiki5.0rc1... I wonder what changed in the last few hours....
   yonixxxxx: cu l8tr !
   jonnyb: hi &amp; bye
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   CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27206 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl: [FIX]tracker: link to proper tab
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   xavi: sylvieg : items list works nowadays as expected in tiki5 (filter on status works). Maybe it was a cache issue an hour ago...
   <br> aha.... some rss (external feeds) are shown nowadays , but not all that were shown in tiki 4.x .... (weird)
   <br> mmm, the only difference that I can think of, is that I decided to run manually the script to upgrade the db from the console , since I saw a blank page at the upgrade process from tiki-install.php (in theory, all sql was executed successfully, as reported by tiki-install.php; the blank page was just after that step)
   <br> some rss are starting to work currently
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   xavi: ^ ricks99, jonnyb, luciash and sylvieg
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   xavi: so maybe the problem I had was some (hidden) issue with the installer (tiki-install.php)...
   <br> and fixed with the manual upgrade of db
   <br> in my case, through sh doc/devtools/sqlupgrade.sh since it is a multitiki
   <br> anyway, fyi... ^
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   xavi: changi, external feeds work for me (even in 5.0rc1). The problem seemed to be with tiki not showing the feeds after the upgrade, and the "refresh" button for external feeds doing nothing. Once they naturally refresh (according to their configuration), they seem to show as expected also
   <br> phew....
   CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27208 10/branches/5.x/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] Theme Control: Restore 'None' option on them options
   <br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27209 10/branches/5.x/ (lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php setup_fckeditor.php): [FIX] FCKEditor - use theme control if set
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   xavi: bbl
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   Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Tiki 5.0 RC 1 - Forum Navigation / GUI - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&amp;comments_parentId=37212
   luciash: re
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   xavi: back
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   luciash: wb xavi
   xavi: well, most weird things that I described a few hours ago are under control. And the ones which are not, have been added to the dev.tw.o/Tiki5 page :-)
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   xavi: last rare one is calendar: tiki-calendar.php seems to work in dev.tw.o, but it doesn't show anything for me in my newly upgraded site, and I remember someone complaining about the same in tikiwiki-devel list, I think
   <br> who knows....
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   CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27210 10/branches/5.x/lang/cs/language.php: czech language: xhtml rendering validation fix
   luciash: <u>xavi</u>: yep, noticed that too on your site
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   rick_: hi does anyone know how to pull up the teme emos on the tikiwiki web site?  When I use the THEMES button at the top of the main TikiWiki web page (http://info.tikiwiki.org/) there is a list of themes, but when I select them or the "DEMO" link appearing there, I just get the same document
   <br> oops apologies for typos above -- wonly keyboard;; teme == theme, emos == demos
   <br> wonKy keyboard that is :(
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   ricks99: u can see many available themes from the tikit themes website
   omstefanov: xavi and yonixxxxx (I know you're offline): Site language is actually stored in $prefs['language'].
   xavi: <u>omstefanov</u>: ?
   <br> so that?
   -: xavi confused
   xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: no idea about your issue
   CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27211 10/branches/5.x/lib/diff/renderer_character.php: [ENH] slightly enhanced rendering of chars in diffs (especially RSS feeds for Wiki pages)
   omstefanov: <u>xavi</u>: sorry if I'm confusing you. Was scanning msgs from earlier today and saw yonixxxxx was having trouble finding his language. Probably my quick (bad) reading saw you as part of that discussion.
   CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r27212 10/branches/5.x/tiki-wiki_rss.php: [FIX] fixed rendering of RSS "diff" feeds for Wiki pages
   xavi: hi Olaf :-) ( omstefanov ) My problem was that I can't change site language frmo English to anotehr language just after the upgrade from 4.2 to 5.0rc1
   <br> but thanks for the tip (even if it was not me who needed it)
   <br> it's always nice to see people willing to help others :-)
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: fyi. did you see the profile page from a site with lots of data inside already?
   <br> e.g.: http://intercanvis.net/tiki-user_information.php?userId=2#content4
   luciash: can you please enable rss feeds for wiki pages on Admin &gt; Admin Home &gt; Feeds and test ?
   xavi: I guess that we'll need some pagination, or filtering, of something...
   luciash: hoping my commits are better than what was there before
   xavi: mmm, rss feeds for wiki pages were known to be eager in memory
   <br> I'll do on doc.tw.o ;-) (dogfooding!)
   <br> ah, sorry, you mean using your latest fixes, don't you?
   <br> r27212, I guess
   <br> so that... I'll see where do I test...
   luciash: yep
   <br> i don't know about the profile page as you ask
   <br> on doc.tw.o i don't see the rss link down there in the footer, so you have to enable it first i think
   omstefanov: <u>xavi</u>: I found it confusing at first that "Site Language" value is NOT stored in $prefs['site_language'] - where one would expect it, but in $prefs['language']
   xavi: <u>luciash</u>: rss enabled in http://intercanvis.net for wiki
   <br> <u>omstefanov</u>: I see
   <br> bbl
   omstefanov: Does anyone know where this is processed? {LANG (notlang="fr]}lengthy text one wouldn't want to add to custom.php{LANG}{LANG (lang="fr]}texte long on ne voudrait pas d'ajouter à custom.php{LANG}
   <br> sorry, should read {LANG (notlang="fr")} and {LANG (lang="fr")}. this IRC screen is so small ...
   ricks99: @omstefanov: isn't that the LANG plugin?
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   ricks99: ../lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_lang.php
   CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27213 10/branches/proposals/3.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php:
   <br> tikiwiki: [bp/r20164][FIX]tracker: get the field value for an existing item that is only visible for admin and creator (when the user selector is not in the list of fields)
   <br> tikiwiki: (already in 4.x)
   xavi: back
   <br> luciash, did it work as expected?
   <br> for me it's taking ages tolead that page
   <br> s/tolead/to load
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: "profile  page as you ask". Ah, ok, I thought that was from your improvements for social networking. It must be from somebody else, then
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: tiki-wiki_rss.php?ver=2 produces no content for me in intercanvis.net
   <br> after a looong while or server time
   <br> I disable it (I don't want to kill that shared hosting - I presume it's as eager in memory as before)
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   xavi: c u all
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   omstefanov: <u>ricks99</u>: yes, it is the LANG plugin. How silly of me! I was looking for it in smarty wiki and other places. The all caps way it is used led me astray. Thanks. Have now found it.
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   TonyOlivero: I'm clearly an idiot, but I can't seem to get permissions right. When I try to set perms on a tracker and hit assign, I go back to look and none of the checkboxes are marked. It's like my settings aren't being saved.
   jonnyb: which version TonyOlivero ?
   TonyOlivero: 4.2
   jonnyb: odd, i'll check here
   TonyOlivero: This tracker has been giving me odd behavior anyway. I'm not really sure what's happening.
   jonnyb: trackers can get a life of their own sometimes (it seems)
   <br> seems fine for me - which browser?
   TonyOlivero: IE.
   jonnyb: do you have another handy?
   TonyOlivero: It was also not showing fields when I tried inserting items aas a user with category perms in the tracker's category
   <br> sure. i'll try in FF.
   jonnyb: safari or chrome are fastest
   <br> FF will work, takes a while to load tho
   TonyOlivero: Neither one works well with my screenreader.
   <br> Same result. I enable the ability to view trackers and hit Assign. comes back unchecked.
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   jonnyb: can you edit global perms ok?
   TonyOlivero: Actually, I beliee it behaved the same when  tried it a few minutes ago.
   jonnyb: just go to tiki-objectpermissions.php
   TonyOlivero: no luck. same thing
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   jonnyb: is there a different tiki you can try it on?
   TonyOlivero: We odn't have anoher install.
   <br> *don't ahve another*
   jonnyb: are you getting any javascript errors? (check in the browser "console")
   TonyOlivero: Nothing's showing in the status bar like they usually do
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   jonnyb: hmm - are you sure it's up to date? there was a bug like that in 4.0ish (beta i thought)
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   RavenC: have a nice evening everyone
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   CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27214 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_profiles.php: [FIX] Reapply profile: restore order of execution to that in 5.x ("forget and reapply" was just forgetting, not reapplying)
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   CIA-56: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27215 10/trunk/tiki-payment.php: [FIX] Payment: a couple of error messages for payment gateway
   Gergely: Hi, I am on 5.0Beta and the tracker's user selector / option 1 (=autoassign) does not work. Has such issue been fixed since then?
   <br> When the user selector field is added to the Fields, then it gives a list to choose. If it is not in the Fields list, then it does not care about it.