[01:49] *** goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki [01:51] *** torsten is now known as fabricius [01:53] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [01:53] *** goj|ghost is now known as goj [02:00] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [03:01] New Forum Posts: Pasting text - keeping formating - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37342 [04:00] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [04:01] *** chealer is now known as chealer|vac [06:08] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [06:24] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [06:28] *** damian has joined #tikiwiki [07:18] *** ClaraM has joined #tikiwiki [07:23] *** Wilkins_ has joined #tikiwiki [07:25] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [07:26] *** goj has joined #tikiwiki [07:26] *** Wilkins_ is now known as Wilkins [09:03] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27471 10/branches/5.x/lib/articles/artlib.php: [FIX] Make jailroot when categId is supplied consistent with the rest of Tiki (e.g. if categId is not in your jail it shows nothing) [09:59] *** benjamin has joined #tikiwiki [10:11] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [10:32] *** FrankP_away has joined #tikiwiki [10:43] *** benjamin has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:06] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [11:12] *** FrankP_away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [11:13] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [11:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [11:13] polom [11:19] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [11:23] hi all :) [11:25] *** genexbs has joined #tikiwiki [11:26] I need to create wiki page from a form that user will submit, form will have page name and other information that will become page headings once page is created, any suggestions on best way to do it? [11:29] hi chibaguy and ricks99 (from university) [11:29] genexbs: I don't know for sure, but did you check if there is a tracker field which can do that for you? [11:29] not tracker [11:30] I mean, did you check the documenation through http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Trackers ? [11:30] i m working on website related to projects, user will have to "register project" using form [11:30] that form will create a wiki page [11:31] "form" in tiki are handled through the tracker feature [11:31] project name will become page name [11:31] but I don't know if it's already coded, that from a tracker you can created new wiki pages [11:31] ok let me check that then [11:31] thanks [11:32] oh well, for sure you will be able to do that through "data channels" (magic words appear again). but that's a very advanced feature [11:33] if you are brave enough (and experienced-enough tiki power user), you can see some description through http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Worspaces [11:33] this is the future of Tiki, but just a few power users are able to (=Have learned already to) use it [11:34] and I'm not one of them. I hope I will, but not yet. And that page was written recently, even if the code is there since almost a year, afaik [11:36] or in theory you can use the profile plugin, with a simple profile for your new project, etc. There is a profile (work in progress, afaik) about profile management... it should be linked from the doc.tw.o/Workspace page, afair [11:37] hth [11:38] and profile management is easier than data channels. I'ts an advanced feature, also, but more people are able to use it (I'm starting to use it with success) [11:39] s/I'ts/It's (rusty English, or rusty fingers.... I wonder what's worse) [11:42] hi xavi [11:42] @07genexb01 i *think* trackers can do this [11:42] not 100% sure, thoguh [11:42] * xavi feels like ricks99 [11:43] i *think* pretty trackers has a way to create a page [11:46] xavi, you were talking about the Artisteer theme program? [11:47] genexbs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Page+selector or datachannels as xavi said [11:47] hi chibaguy , nope, not me [11:48] oh, ok. I can't remember where I was reading that, or who said it. [11:48] Anyway, it's a windows and mac program for making themes for wordpress, joomla, drupal and some others, or HTML templates. [11:49] A commercial program. [11:49] Maybe it was Pascal Saint-Jean. [11:49] chibaguy: yes it was pascal on the devel [11:49] ah, ok. [11:50] * chibaguy not getting enough sleep these days. ;-) [11:50] :-) [11:55] New Forum Posts: Module will only show contents to Registered users despite settings - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37345 [12:00] polom [12:02] xavi: do you remember that "page" type field ? ;) [12:02] hi luciash [12:02] hi ricks99 [12:04] hi luciash :-) yes, that's why I first pointed that user to read the tracker documentation [12:04] genexbs: yes, tracker field type page can do that (i am 100% sure) [12:04] but I was not sure [12:04] ok thanks for the help, I m trying this [12:07] mmm, I'm facing some problems with pretty trackers. How can I escape the names of {$f_1} and similar so that a plugin call doesn't have conflict with it? [12:08] I'm need this with PluginR,... but this syntax in the tracker template: {R()}{$f_6}:{$f_7}{R} [12:08] is sending that {$f_6} to the R program in the server, and R doesn't understand it... [12:09] http://dev.tikiwiki.org/PluginR#wiki-plugin_r.php [12:11] how can avoid this problem in PluginR? [12:11] xavi: hmm, a tough one [12:12] xavi: how come it doesn't send as value of the tracker field instead ? [12:12] good question. I don't know enough php to understand all the internals of pluginR... [12:14] does PluginR parse data content or not ? [12:14] but the wiki page shows the error from the R console [12:14] parse data content: not, and that's another thing that would be very useful [12:16] i don't see the error on http://dev.tikiwiki.org/PluginR#wiki-plugin_r.php [12:16] yes, it's from R... [12:17] hold on, I'll make my test environment a bit more public [12:18] (it's from work at university, and I might get a new contract to produce easier interfaces in html to manage R scripts.... that's why PluginR might make things very useful for such type of work) [12:21] luciash: http://cochise.bib.ub.es/tiki5svn/tiki-index.php?page=template [12:21] the message in red: [12:21] Error: unexpected '$' in "{$" [12:21] comes from R in the server [12:21] xavi: ok, but it is only happening when you look at the template directly, right ? [12:22] nope.... see this: [12:22] it's understandable [12:22] oh [12:22] http://cochise.bib.ub.es/tiki5svn/tiki-index.php?page=company%20directory [12:22] ah, hold on... more perms for anons to view it.... [12:23] yep :) [12:25] that's it, reload the last page [12:25] company directoy, etc. [12:26] btw, that profile for that pretty tracker demo is missing a perm to use the "template" page as wiki tracker template [12:26] I'll add that before I forget.... [12:30] mmm, can a user add local perms on objects through a profile? [12:31] *** Cain` has joined #tikiwiki [12:31] xavi: i see [12:31] xavi: a user ? [12:32] never mind, I found it [12:32] *** genexbs has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [12:32] http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Permission+Management [12:32] I meant I didn't know how to do that, in case it was possible (I was doubting it), but it is possible [12:32] *** Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:32] *** Cain` is now known as Cain [12:33] xavi: i don't understand why it doesn't parse {$f_6} inside the plugin data to the field value before parsing the plugin itself [12:34] can you try with {$user} instead ? [12:34] ok, thanks for the tip. there I go [12:34] or {{user}} [12:41] :-( blank page [12:41] I'll enable error messages [12:41] the template is this: http://cochise.bib.ub.es/tiki5svn/tiki-index.php?page=template [12:43] can you enable view source for anon ? [12:43] yes [12:44] tnx [12:45] granted on the template page [12:46] mmmm, however, it has to be enabled somewhere, isn't it.... for variables like {{user}} to be shown... [12:46] xavi: yes, enable it on Admin > Editing & Plugins [12:47] xavi: btw, http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=menu has now duplicated link (it is already in the top menu) [12:48] xavi: ah, i meant you put the user test inside the R plugin code [12:48] ok, there I go... [12:49] http://cochise.bib.ub.es/tiki5svn/tiki-index.php?page=Company+Directory is visible to anons also [12:50] xavi: you want to figure it out yourself or give me admin account there if you like [12:50] item removed from wiki menu (thanks, I didn't notice that it was there) [12:52] yes, no problem (thanks) [12:52] once enabled that setting (argument variables), I notice that CODE plugin is not capable of showing R syntax inside. It's parsed even inside a CODE plugin call [12:53] xavi: with the menu the same happened to me :-p [12:53] :-) [12:53] I wonder why CODE is not able to show the R syntax [12:54] user luci or luciash ? [12:54] luci [12:55] i meant instead of [12:55] {R()}{$f_6}:{$f_7}{R} [12:55] {R()}{$user}{R} [12:55] yes, yes, I know.... [12:55] * xavi searching for you email right now [12:55] okidokie [12:56] luci AT tw.o [12:56] ok, easy, thanks [12:57] ok, there you are [12:59] sending pass through email [12:59] I can't use pidgin from uni, just webchat for irc, and I can't send pm from here, it seems [13:00] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27472 10/trunk/lib/profilelib/profilelib.php: [ENH]datachannel: to be able to use {{user}} and other in the yaml [13:00] fine , i am in [13:00] you can enable minichat module there ;) [13:00] :-) [13:19] xavi: out of ideas, it seems too complicated to me, it seems to parse differently than the rest of the plugins [13:19] the content [13:27] *** Bilal has joined #tikiwiki [13:31] ok, thanks luciash for the feedback and your time [13:33] since I need this for work, I'll keep trying and I'll ask someone else when I get stuck [13:33] time to go back home & luch [13:33] cheers [13:35] *** xavi has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [13:35] *** damian has quit IRC (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D) [13:39] *** Jyhem has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:48] by allowing HTML in WIKI pages - does it weaken the site security and people can do something bad to the site ? or is it safe to use ? [13:52] potentially, yes. i suggest using the HTML plugin instead. it allows you to approve any HTML coding before it is "live" [14:09] ricks99: okie thanks [14:10] ricks99: means we should not enable WXYIG editor and instead use HTML plugin? [14:11] *** ricks99_ has joined #tikiwiki [14:13] can still use plugins with wysiwyg editor [14:13] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:13] *** ricks99_ is now known as ricks99 [14:14] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:33] Bilal: it doesn't explicitly weaken site security but can allow malicious users insert hidden tags and collect other user's private data via methods such as "iframe injection" etc. [14:35] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [14:39] wb xavi [14:43] hi :-) [15:02] *** Louis-Martin has joined #tikiwiki [15:06] sylvieg, I need your help & expertise . I need to know how to extend PluginR to avoid sending variables from a tracker wiki page template when it's in the template stage. So that R plugin sends values from pretty tracker to R at the server, and not sending the variables to the R in the server.... [15:06] example: see test 4 here: http://cochise.bib.ub.es/tiki5svn/r_test [15:07] when this is in a template: {R()}{{f_6}}:{{f_7}}{R} it's sent to the R program in the server [15:07] sorry , this: {R()}{$f_6}:{$f_7}{R} [15:08] *** Bilal has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100315083431]) [15:08] and R doesn't know what is $_f6, etc. [15:08] do you use a tempalte or a wiki page? [15:08] Instead, I need to send just the output from the pretty tracker varible to the PluginR call [15:09] try to use a template and the syntax to put a plugin in a tpl [15:09] template.... hold on, I'll show you the real example in the template.... [15:09] template as tpl or tempalte a wiki? [15:10] otherwise I do not know how to do [15:10] http://cochise.bib.ub.es/tiki5svn/tiki-index.php?page=Company+Directory [15:11] template is a wiki page: http://cochise.bib.ub.es/tiki5svn/tiki-index.php?page=template [15:11] sorry, let me clean a bit the template... [15:12] cleaned [15:13] and this is the only item in the tracker: http://cochise.bib.ub.es/tiki5svn/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=7&trackerId=1&show=view&reloff=0&cant=1&status=o&trackerId=1 [15:13] try a .tpl and use of the smarty block wikiplugin [15:14] aha.... thanks for the tip... [15:14] (otherswise it will take me hours to go inseide smarty to know when each part is executed...) [15:14] a .tpl, you mean in a file in the server [15:14] ? [15:15] yes [15:15] ok, I'll test [15:20] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:21] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27473 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW]memberpayment: param to limit the membership payment only top the current user [15:25] *** sudo has joined #tikiwiki [15:25] sylvieg: do you mean this syntax: {R()}{literal}{$f_6}:{$f_7}{/literal}{R} [15:25] ? [15:25] hey guys how do I solve this [15:25] because it sais: No field indicated [15:25] s/sais/says [15:25] ADONewConnection: Unable to load database driver [15:26] Invalid db object passed to TikiDB constructor [15:26] sudo: tiki version? step? [15:26] 4.2 [15:26] and step or url? [15:26] connecting to mysql db [15:26] you probably need to use the smarty {wikiplugin} [15:27] ... when do you need the page working? [15:27] sylvieg: ok, I'll test [15:27] I have soem job to finish now [15:27] I can have a look later today [15:27] *** chealer|vac has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:27] at what stage do I use the plugin sylvieg> [15:28] ok, thanks, or tomorrow, if you prefer. I need to know whether it's possible to user pretty trackers with pluginR by friday or so.... [15:28] duo, it was for me [15:28] sudo , it was for me [15:28] ok [15:28] sudo, what were you doing? installing or what? please provide more details [15:28] installing [15:29] sudo - I was speaking to xavi not you [15:29] xavi when setting up the DB connection [15:29] does your server meet the http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Requirements ? [15:30] which requirements are these? [15:30] read the page [15:30] "please" [15:31] xavi I have mysql running [15:34] sorry, sudo, no idea: I've never seen that error before. it compalins about a db driver. Ensure that you have AdoDB and/or PDO properly installed and working in your server. Ask your sys admin if needed. [15:35] I am trying it on my local host [15:36] which OS? [15:39] ubuntu 10 [15:39] sylvieg, I can't make it work with tpl on disk, (using this syntax, in case it matters): {literal}{wikiplugin}{R()}{$f_6}:{$f_7}{R}{/wikiplugin}{/literal} [15:40] @sylvieg: so I skip it for a while. Thanks ofr having a look later today or tomorrow. [15:40] @sylvieg: I'm interested in using this through wiki pages as templates, [15:41] @sudo: then, you are definitively missing some base packages [15:42] there used to be a doc. page for installing on ubuntu.... (I wrote it, years ago) [15:42] did you search through doc.tw.o? [15:42] you can search for "ubuntu", or just look around the http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Installation pages... [15:43] * xavi uses ubuntu since 6.10, and tiki runs with no problem on them [15:43] you might be needing some dependencies for the mysql-server, mysql-client or mysql-php packages, etc. [15:47] *** sudo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [15:55] xavi: does wikiplugin smarty block really exist ? i heard onyl about "wiki" block ... [15:55] and i think the literal block should be inside the R plugin data, not outside [15:56] s/onyl/only [16:00] *** sudo has joined #tikiwiki [16:00] luciash: not much idea myself. Just tried a bit ... [16:01] anyway, i think your goal is to use wiki as template [16:01] yes [16:02] anyway, I have to study http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello+World [16:04] oups, there are weird characters in the hello world page! [16:04] $pref_name can be ‘theme’, ‘allowMsgs’… [16:04] :-p [16:05] must be devs playing with the fire (UTF-8) [16:05] *** kerry has joined #tikiwiki [16:05] hello [16:05] hi kerry [16:05] bottom line: it's very difficult, then, to say hello world in tikish lang ;-) [16:05] im having an issue and i wanted to know if anyone knew how to fix [16:05] we'l try, kerry [16:05] we'll [16:06] hi, btw [16:06] im new to mytiki but was give the responsibility of setting it up for people.. somehow i managed to delete the editor category and now when anyone except admins log in, it says permission denied on the homepage [16:06] everything else works.. but they cant see the homepage! [16:07] url? [16:07] (if public) [16:07] of course, this is a perms problem [16:07] kerry: so the question is ? [16:07] if might be category permissions.... or just missing global or local permissions [16:07] i was looking on how to fix [16:08] oh its not.. its for the library [16:08] ive been trying to add and take away permissions to get it to work [16:08] kerry: you mean "Editor" *category* or "Editors" *group* ? [16:08] the group of editors [16:08] *** chealer|vac has joined #tikiwiki [16:08] and i cant figure out which permission allows people to see the homepage [16:08] just re-create the Editors group [16:08] then you need to assign the people to that group [16:09] include Registered to that group and assign any extra permissions to that group then [16:09] tiki_p_view permission is that - inclusion of Regsitered should do the trick anyway [16:10] argh, this doc. page is horrible for new users: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Permissions [16:10] oh i know ive tried to read it a dozen times [16:10] *** chealer|vac has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:10] its literally been a month that ive been trying [16:11] sorry kerry, that paeg is awful... [16:11] kerry: i just told you what to do (basically) [16:11] keery, in the meantime, besides luci's explanation, and before the official doc. page is improved, you can read this: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/How+Permissions+Work [16:12] ricks99 ? [16:12] thank you. im trying to click on the tiki_p_view and i don't see that one.. there's tiki_p_admin and Can view action log (tiki_p_view_actionlog) [16:12] but no plain view [16:13] (tiki_p_view_templates)? [16:13] how about that one [16:13] nope [16:14] tiki_p_view , as reported in the official doc. page [16:14] hmm ill keep looking [16:14] kerry, tiki version? [16:14] for curiosity [16:14] it should be the same perm in all [16:15] 4.1 [16:15] but just to guide you through the interface, if needed [16:16] did you try to list all perms for all features, and then search for that perm through the browser? [16:16] and, are you using old interface to manage perms, or new one? [16:16] new one is explained in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4 [16:16] "explained": "briefly presented" [16:17] thanks im logging it out and in to see if i got it [16:17] darn it [16:17] i did tiki view and i added the registered [16:17] and i still cant see it [16:20] kerry, suggestion: play with it with two browser programs, one for admin, and one for a registered user [16:21] ooh good idea [16:23] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [16:27] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27474 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [BP/r 27355][FIX]parsing: leave alone and do not add
the is_html data - the defautl feature_wiki_paragraph_formatting and feature_wiki_paragraph_formatting_add_br should work now for both wysiwyg and tiki [16:31] thanks sylvieg for improving (fixing) it! :-) [16:31] I am little worry about the side effect people should probably review the setting... [16:32] side effect? they'll loose some br you mean? [16:32] just add a note in ((doc:Upgrade)) and/or ((doc:Tiki4)) [16:32] and/or release notes [16:37] I think I will rollback... :-( not sure [16:38] *** TFabricius has joined #tikiwiki [16:40] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27475 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] rollback - sorry has side effect [16:44] when you're assigning permissions, does it matter what default group you're in? [16:45] yes, default group doesn't matter, afaik [16:45] default group is for showing homepage, etc. afaik [16:46] darnit.. this group has like every permission except admin and they still cant see the home page [16:47] kerry, do you have category permissions for that homepage? [16:47] that was the tiki_view right [16:47] kerry: nope. the question is simple. Let's split in simpler: [16:47] (1) do you use categories? [16:47] yes [16:48] (2) do you have your homepage categorized? [16:48] sorry i swear im not an idiot [16:48] i dont know how to find that [16:48] edit page, and look for the tab where catgories are set/displayed [16:51] actually i just went into admin categories and there weren't any [16:55] ok [16:56] so, you click in pems of tha tpage, and you see.... [16:57] * xavi opening a 4.x site to check the same interface [16:58] ok, kerry, see this: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/4x/tiki-index.php [16:58] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [16:58] login as admin [16:59] pass in private message. Do you see it? [16:59] and then , check this: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/4x/tiki-objectpermissions.php?objectId=HomePage&objectName=HomePage&objectType=wiki+page&permType=wiki [16:59] you should have it similar to the previous page [17:00] hth [17:00] umm no? where's oh wait [17:00] got it [17:00] very creative ;) [17:00] anyway, remember to upgrade your site to 4.2 [17:01] or whatever latest release is for the branch you are using at any time [17:01] ok lemme try [17:07] i cant get to that area in mine though [17:07] you cannot. where can you get? [17:08] *** Cain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:08] do you see a button called "permissions" at the bottom of the page? [17:08] s/page/homepage [17:11] *** sudo has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [17:16] sorry i didnt se that you typed i was trying to google it [17:18] but no.. i dont have a permissions button [17:18] wiki page: Special Close If an object is not in the special section, then only the default perms are on Object Group Permission Reason Company Directory Registered tiki_p_view Special HomePage Anonymous tiki_p_view Special [17:19] oh that didnt come out right [17:19] whats the special part [17:19] HomePage Anonymous tiki_p_view Special [17:20] thats what it says [17:20] Trying to add permission to a wiki page? This may help: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Adding+Permissions+to+Pages [17:20] ricks ive been trying for a month.. i have permissions set up, EXCEPT the homepage [17:20] only admins can see it [17:21] Is it in a category? [17:21] no.. but when i click on object permissions its in a category called special [17:22] remove it from the category [17:22] how? [17:22] 1. Edit the page [17:22] 2. In the edit window, click the CATEGORY tab [17:22] 3. Un-select any/all categories [17:22] 4. Save the page [17:23] there's no edit page button [17:23] oh! [17:23] is it the html thing [17:23] This is a *wiki* page, right? not HTML? [17:24] OK, your home page is an HTML page? [17:24] its a combination of a bunch of stuff [17:24] like recent posts [17:24] and a welcome post [17:25] right, but is it a *wiki* page? [17:25] when you are logged in as the Admin, you should have buttons at top/bottom [17:25] i believe so [17:25] 1 of them should say "EDIT" [17:25] well im not logged in as admin.. but i have admin permissions [17:25] is that different? [17:25] yes [17:25] (maybe) [17:26] depends on which admin permissions you have [17:26] ok so im on my homepage and clicked edit [17:26] but its not... liek a big edit for the whole page.. just for the text part [17:26] ok. on the edit page, do you see a CATEGORY tab? [17:27] nope, just tools and properties [17:27] do u use categories on the site? [17:27] is the category feature enabled? [17:28] when i click on object permissions there are categories and yes its enabled.. but i dont think anyone ever set up our own [17:29] "object permissions"? you mean clicking the PERMISSION button on a wiki page? [17:29] *** TFabricius has left [17:29] no.. when you click on groups.. then manage permissions.. then object permissions.. thats the place where it says that the homepage is in the "special" category [17:31] oups, got distracted for a while. back [17:32] rick has been kindly trying to help my uselessness [17:32] great, ricks99 is helping you kerry [17:32] i went to the object permissions thing you showed me.. and there isnt a one for homepage [17:32] but homepage is in one called special [17:32] kerry, can you write the url of your page, please (remove the domain, if you wish) [17:32] so that we may know what type of homepage is [17:32] http://hslwiki.hsclib.sunysb.edu [17:33] you can have the log in.. i dont care [17:33] theres nothing in it [17:33] http://hslwiki.hsclib.sunysb.edu/tiki-index.php [17:33] Yes, I meant that. so that it's a wiki page [17:33] then, do you have a full admin acount there¿ [17:33] ? [17:34] i think so [17:34] the account "admin" [17:34] i didnt set it up [17:34] yeah [17:34] no [17:34] can you log in with this account, please? [17:34] im just in the group admin [17:34] it may not be the same [17:34] you need to have the tiki_p_admin [17:34] regardless of the name of the group you are at [17:34] where can i see that [17:35] nope. Please, can you log in as "admin"? [17:35] that will be easier [17:35] im calling the guy with the password [17:35] *** Louis-Martin has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [17:36] and this way, if you have any problem again, you can log in as (full) admin to see what happened, and fix it if needed [17:36] until you master tiki permissions. then you can use whatever username provided that it's in a group with the permissions you need, etc. [17:37] ugh. he set it up and was like.. figure this out and gave me my own username [17:38] btw, you need to request to have GD installed in the server [17:38] ask your sys admin about it [17:38] whats gd [17:38] and in the mean time, can you set your homepage as another page? [17:38] ugh he isnt picking up.. sure..how do you do that? [17:39] it's a package in the server to produce graphics [17:39] ok, kerry, can you go to tiki-admingroups.php yourself wity your username? [17:40] oh hey! [17:40] kerry? [17:40] ok he called [17:40] and im in as admin [17:41] go to your wiki homepage, and click on the "permissions" or "perms" button [17:41] at the bottom of the page [17:41] for later: until you don't have [17:41] GD installed [17:41] ok [17:41] remove teh "Anti-Bot verification code" setting [17:42] otherwise, no user will be able to register [17:42] ok [17:43] so im @ the perms thing [17:44] ok, I think I got an idea of what can be wrong, looking at (what I can see from) your site [17:44] New Forum Posts: File Gallery not displaying sub folders/gallery - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37347 [17:44] hold on.... [17:44] OH EM GEE [17:44] xavi u fixed it [17:45] i would give u the biggest kiss ever right now if i could [17:45] did I? [17:45] YES [17:45] oh thank goodness [17:45] ugh [17:45] telepathy work or what? [17:45] you are a genius [17:46] * xavi confused... there must be another xavi in your university campus [17:46] :D [17:46] lol [17:47] anyway, I was going to say (I hope I don't break it now :-) ): check here: tiki-admin.php?page=wiki [17:47] and ensure that you have set some Wiki page as homepage [17:48] and check here: tiki-admin.php?page=general#content3 that you have Wiki set as homepage [17:48] in the drop down [17:48] where do i do that [17:49] foloow the relative url's I gave you a moment ago, kerry [17:50] and remove the permission to edit pages from anonymous, that seems to be granted as global perm [17:50] even if the page doesn't open for editting (endless loop) [17:50] ooh ok [17:50] I would recommend that you ask your sysadmin to review that server. [17:51] and keery, I would recommend you to have a local copy of your site with your own testing environment, so that you can split server problems in your univ. server, from tiki config problems. [17:52] lol good idea [17:52] ok, enough for me for now. I need to disconnect for a while, and do some other stuff. Good luck, kerry [17:52] thank you thank you! [17:54] New Forum Posts: only admin can see an image on a wiki page - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37348 [17:56] *** kerry has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [17:57] luciash: in case you know how to fix. there is a display problem in tw.o with the search bar on the black top bar below the header. the drop down to select where to search for is unclickable.... [17:57] it shouldn't be shown, or it should be shown somewhere else to allow users to drop down the list [17:59] *** FrankP_away has joined #tikiwiki [18:02] * changi if you have time : http://www.koreus.com/video/iron-baby.html [18:10] tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r27476 10/branches/5.x/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX]Last reference to old log updated to new logo [18:12] changi: already seen that, tnx :) [18:24] *** ClaraM has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [18:38] luciash: do you remember a ciommit you did - sorry october 2006 [18:38] http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/tikilib.php?r1=6903&r2=6904 [18:39] I have problem with it ... I have some
    in the code and after the
    are ingored... [18:40] sylvieg: sorry, i have to look at it [18:40] sylvieg: just a moment [18:40] I suppose 2006... [18:43] the turn around I found is to put the
      .. into {HTML} [18:43] ooh, almost 4 years... i really don't recall [18:44] what was the commit message ? [18:44] [FIX] manual rollback of the TOC back to ul list based [18:44] ah, i see "[FIX] manual rollback of the TOC back to ul list based [18:45] the problem is that the
    I can fix tath [18:45] so it was basically rollback of something i didn't like :-p maybe some
    stuff instead of using more semantic list [18:46] if you can fix that, you are welcome [18:46] but I am wondering how in a toc you can generate a br [18:47] only inside
  • [18:47] is allowed [18:47] in ul/ol [18:47] but i am not sure what you need/want [18:50] I have a FANCYTABLE and there is
    • ... in one column because it is the 'only' except HTML way to do a list in a table [18:50] but after the facytable... the

      are no more added because the inTOC =-1 [18:53] * sylvieg wishing to have the example that needing the fix [18:54] s/needs [18:59] because if I do !xxx%%%yyy - I generate a br [19:02] mmm, usability bug, I presume: tiki_p_edit_categories in 4.2, it's described as "Can edit items in categories", but I presume it should be described as "Can edit categorization of items" [19:02] sylvieg and luciash ? any hint? [19:03] for me it is the same - not an English speaker [19:03] my students noticed that: they have "Can add objects in the category (tiki_p_add_object)" and "Can remove objects from the category (tiki_p_remove_object)" [19:03] so that they can create new pages and categorize them [19:03] but when they make a mistkae, they can't edit the categorization of that page [19:03] I confirmed it right now [19:03] the checkboxes of category selection are greyed out [19:05] ok, don't worry, I'll find out if I'm right or not... trial and error <5 min, and I'll know [19:10] brrr, there is some bug somewhere.... my students can't change the category of a page.... (Tiki 4.2)... I'll dive in the code... (I hope I don't sink in this jquery thing) [19:12] *** FrankP_away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:15] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27477 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]parsing: After a FANCYTABLE with a cell containing

      • the paragraph

        are no more generated because the inTOC is decremented as tehrhe is a let me see....line 67 in categorize.php: (proposals/4.x): [19:16] $categories[$iCat]['canchange'] = ($can && $catperms->remove_object) || isset($cat_object_exists) && ! $cat_object_exists; [19:16] what does it mean in "human" words? [19:17] the user can change the category if $can (?) and if it has the permission to remove objects (my users have that perm), OR [19:17] the object is categorized and the category exists???? [19:25] *** pikytcus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:26] ^ sylvieg ? [19:33] canchange is set to true if you can modify the category of the object and the category can be removed - or object has no categories [19:33] this makes no sense for me [19:33] svn blame [19:36] ce commit was done lph 8/2009 [MOD] Add support for dynamic group names from profiles and multiple fixes [19:36] and I did on sept 2009 notice: please verif [19:38] tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27478 10/branches/5.x/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] spelling mistake [19:38] oh well, sylvieg, I presume that there is sometrhing wrong with it.... since users with the perm to add, edit and remove, can NOT modify categorization of pages [19:39] before commit 20616 - it makes more sense - you can change a categ if you can modify the categs of an object and you can remove remove objects from this categories [19:40] can you ping lph (as Quality Team) to check it, or so? [19:40] or what is the suggested procedure? [19:40] no real procedure [19:40] I can provide a testing ground for him if needed, where he can reproduce it [19:41] cvs list + copy lph and me [19:41] mmm, are all dev supposed to me subscribed to the cvs list? [19:41] * xavi is not [19:41] s/to me/to be [19:44] *** Sug4r has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:44] all the dev are supposed - but lph is a known exception [19:45] *** Sug4r has joined #tikiwiki [19:48] but how many emails do you get per day on that list? [19:48] I fear that extra email load on my email box... [19:50] = number of commits + 1% additional [19:52] *** pikytcus has joined #tikiwiki [19:52] xavi: not a lot [19:52] xavi: depends if we are in a release process :) [19:53] xavi: or a QT validation period (like now) [19:53] ok, ok....I?ll subscribe [20:00] *** ClaraM has joined #tikiwiki [20:07] subscription request sent [20:07] and email sent from that email [20:08] I hope it's queued until someone approves my subscription request [20:08] anyway, sylvieg and lph in cc [20:12] xavi: welcome on board :) [20:12] well, not yet (I hope my request is lost somewhere in the internet and thus, I avoid getting more email load :-) ) [20:23] argh... I can't change from wysiwyg editor to text editor any more... (in the same Tiki 4.2 with my students...) [20:24] * xavi regrets of ever enabling the wysiwyg editor.... it's a mess when they paste from wikipedia or word documents still... [20:24] you can switch back.... perhaps missing settings [20:25] *** changi is now known as changi|afk [20:25] *** rockroach has joined #tikiwiki [20:27] but many pages already with wysiwyg content... I fear things getting worse (Murphy's law) [20:27] I'll do a quick change [20:27] * xavi fears because there are up to 400 pages from students... [20:28] did you enable htmlpurifier [20:29] yes, it's been enabled since the early days... I wonder what have happened without it... :-/ [20:29] what might have happenned [20:29] Hi, I'm desperate. Can someone please look at http://imagebin.ca/view/UonHuq.html and http://smradius.org/tiki-index.php. I just upgrade and now the site looks bad. Theme is the standard tikineat.css. [20:30] Suggestions on what went wrong are appreciated. [20:30] rockroach: tikineat.css is no more standard [20:30] read the documentation pages for whatever version you are using [20:31] http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki3 - http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki4 or http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki5 [20:31] and of course, http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade [20:32] xavi: I compared the my backup to the the new tiki tarball and it's still there. [20:32] sylvieg: no luck, I fuly disabled wysiwyg editor, but pages (that were created with wysiwyg editor) are edited in palin text, fine, but with all html tags in it :-/ [20:32] rockroach: which version are you using? old and new? [20:32] need to swith the page to allow html [20:33] xavi: Upgraded to 3.5. [20:34] rockroach: did you cleared your browser cache? (just checking) [20:35] and see whatevernotes you can find in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki3 , http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade and http://themes.tikiwiki.org about changes in default themes when upgrading to tiki3 [20:35] hth [20:35] sylvieg: the page is showing all right. It's at edition time, they see all the html tags [20:36] So I can't disale wysiwyg editor, I guess. I wish I could convert it to wiki syntax.... but the button stopped working [20:36] the only thing between yesteerday and today is language.php updated (as the one in proposals/4.x/lang/ca/language.php ), but new strings are fine, afaik, and eveything displays ok, afaik [20:37] I doubt there is a problem in my catalan translation... quick test: I'll test with english interface and clearing caches, etc [20:37] just in case [20:38] xavi: I read the Upgrade doc's before upgrading and followed it diligently. A quick look through Tiki3 themes section hasn't enlightened me. [20:38] btw,m this is one of the (400) pages being edited by students with wysiwyg and lots of html grabage inside): http://sima.pangea.org/tiki-index.php?page=Composici%C3%B3+de+l'aire [20:39] rockroach: "quick look" seem it's not enough. follow my tips, please. Or first, change them to thenews.css, to see if the display is alright (and clear tiki caches, and your browser caches) [20:39] s/change them/change theme [20:39] xavi: I have tried to repeatedly refresh my browser and tried different things over the last 2 hours. Still no improvement. [20:40] "refresh" is not "clear browser cache". Do you understand the difrerence? [20:40] xavi: I forgot about the cache's, will try that now and new theme too. [20:40] xavi: Yes I do. [20:42] rockroach: another tip: ensure that you upgrade on a new folder in your disk, and not just ocpying new files over the old ones [20:42] at least, while you don't master the theme files (you might have interference of old tpl's, at leat, in the new installation) [20:44] xavi: Upgrade doc's said copy over, so I did. When that didn't work I backup and tried new install. That looked even worse. Something is seriously weird here, but I haven't been able to figure out what. [20:45] xavi: Present site is return to that backup. [20:45] "copy over": bad instructions.... I can tell you. Someone refactored documentation, and forgot that case when old tpl files are in place, and new themes don't expect them (old) in place from older installaation of the same theme [20:46] rockroach: did you test with thenews.css? [20:46] xavi: Busy clearing cache. Will try new theme shortly. [20:48] argh, bloddy language change, it's an issue with my last language changes! [20:51] xavi: thenews.css puts everything where it's supposed to be, so that's working. [20:51] what I presumed [20:51] so that, easy fix for you: [20:52] go to your ./templates/ and remove everything [20:52] (keep the ones in your backup) [20:52] and put there just the new ones from the 3.5 installation [20:53] mmmm, and just in case, do the same with your ./styles/ folder (delete everything inside, and copy from the 3.5 installation package) [20:53] thjen you should have your tikine*.css theme working [20:53] hth [20:53] xavi: Will do. [20:53] and if that works, please improve the docs about Upgrade [20:54] is there any suggested way of migrating images from image galleries to file galleries? Didn't find anything on the web or in doc/devtools or so. [20:54] wiki documentation has this risk: someones oversimplifies documentation, forgeting those cases that were described before [20:54] amette: welcome to the vaporware world! :-) [20:54] *Didn't find [20:55] xavi: ah, I feared so - thanks ;) [20:55] if you find anything, please tell me! :-) [20:55] ok, I will :) [20:56] Well, at last, when image galleries get [KIL]-ed, there must be developed some script or such... ;) [20:57] => I hope image galleries don't get killed soon, at least, not before vaporware vanishes and real code bug-free shows up [20:58] do you think file galleries are not yet good enough? [20:59] I would like to move over and am just playing around and testing out. [20:59] sylvieg, again your expertise: my change was related to some single quote (apostrophe in Catalan, as in French), but the translation and php syntax of that file is correct: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/4.x/lang/ca/language.php?r1=25955&r2=27426 [20:59] I think it is basically a very smart move :) [20:59] amette: yes, in theory, yes. But in the last 6 months I had to use image galleries in two sites for production (using 4.x) because of issues with file gals [21:00] sylvieg: line 4132:  // "Switch Editor (wiki or WYSIWYG)" => "Switch Editor (wiki or WYSIWYG)",  "Switch Editor (wiki or WYSIWYG)" => "Canvia d'Editor (wiki o WYSIWYG)", [21:01] so, I presume some single quote somewhere in tiki 4.x code (at least), I'll check around... [21:01] xavi: ah, damn, that's a pity! But thanks for the info, I keep testing around! :) [21:03] I got it, I think! [21:04] line 1464 in toolbarslib.php (proposals/4x): [21:04] $this->setLabel( tra('Switch Editor (wiki or WYSIWYG)') ) [21:04] so I guess I can change it for "": [21:04] $this->setLabel( tra("Switch Editor (wiki or WYSIWYG)") ) [21:12] xavi: Deleting templates/* had unintended side effect. Custom Paypal module went bye-bye. It was in templates/modules/. Thank goodness for backups. :-) [21:12] "custom" code, has to be re-added, of course [21:13] that's why backups are for [21:13] but this way, you only add what you need, and not the old tpl files which are breaking your display [21:13] xavi: You where right about tikineat.css. It isn't in new tarball. No idea how I saw it there earlier. [21:13] tikinewt.css maybe? [21:14] slight difference in name , but different them [21:14] it should be described in the doc pages at themes.tw.o [21:14] but also, it *should* in doc.tw.o/upgrade* pages [21:16] xavi: Will look. Thank you very much for your help, it is most appreciated. I was about ready to pull my hair out. :-P [21:16] :-) [21:16] I know that feeling [21:16] you are welcome [21:17] and please, consider helping the community by improving the docs upon your experience [21:19] xavi: I will. The doc's as they stand will bite some users in the butt. I need to get sleep now and will see what I can do tomorrow. [21:19] thanks heaps, rockroach :-) g'night [21:20] Pleasure, xavi. Goodnight. :-) [21:20] *** rockroach has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.4/20100317113855]) [21:27] mm, I can't fix the problem with switching wysiwyg editor to normal if langue is catalan [21:27] re [21:27] I've changed all single quotes in tra('') calls, for tra("") calls, but no way, ... [21:27] can i help somehow ? [21:27] I presume that there is some problem here: [21:27] return $this->getSelfLink('switchEditor(\'wysiwyg\', $jq(this).parents(\'form\')[0]);', [21:27] htmlentities($this->label, ENT_QUOTES, 'UTF-8'), 'qt-switcheditor'); [21:28] ^line 1475 in toolbarslib.php (in proposals/4x) [21:28] yes, luciash, right in time, if you have a quick tip for me [21:28] * xavi is getting out of time for today [21:29] does it depend on catalan language ? english or other lang works ? [21:29] in the mean while, I'll revert changes to the catalan file in my production site [21:29] yes, english works [21:29] see lines above: I presume it's a single quote in my translation , but the code for toolbars to switch lang, seems not ready for single quotes in labels [21:30] i don't get it, switch lang or switch wysiwyg ? [21:31] i don't see in the line 1475 any tra() [21:33] yes, 1464 has tra() [21:33] where's the file toolbarslib.php ? in lib/... ? [21:33] and 1475 might be using it [21:34] yes, in /lib/toolbars [21:34] i see [21:35] it is stupid to tra() the path imho [21:35] 1465 [21:38] but it's probably not relevant [21:41] ok, I quit it,. walk dog time. I can't fix it [21:43] ok, c u later [21:43] i will try if it works with czech [22:00] is Dreamhost good for Tiki ? [22:01] seems they offer a lot of extra stuff for those $8.95 bucks [22:08] oh qwell, reverting these changes, the switch editor button works again: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/4.x/lang/ca/language.php?r1=25955&r2=27426 [22:09] so I reverted in my production site, but I don't in proposals... some more care is needed to allow single quotes in labels [22:09] xavi: it works for me [22:10] yes, it works unless there are some single quotes in your transaltion for some labels [22:10] xavi: i don't know what were wrong for you but i have switched to Catalan and the wiki/wysiwyg switching works in my localhost branch4proposed [22:11] yes :-) because language changs go (and went) to 4x :-) that's why [22:11] but you told me to try proposed, nope ? [22:12] get ./lang/ca/language.php from 4x and put it in your proposals... [22:12] oh well, I?m testing in proposals.... [22:12] since the fix, if any, will go to proposals... [22:12] that's the tricky part with fixes related to languages.... [22:12] → 23:33 < xavi> ^line 1475 in toolbarslib.php (in proposals/4x) [22:12] :-p [22:13] so it works in proposals 4x because the translation is different there ? [22:13] what is different there ? [22:14] maybe you just need escape it in your translation (the apostrophe) [22:16] *** Cain has joined #tikiwiki [22:16] tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r27479 10/branches/proposals/4.x/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [22:16] tikiwiki: [FIX]Allow single quotes in labels. However, it's still not fully fixed for [22:16] tikiwiki: languages with single quotes (Catalan, FRench, ...), when some single quotes are [22:16] tikiwiki: added to strings that need to be translated to those languages for button labels [22:16] tikiwiki: (see r27426 in lang/ca/language.php file from 4x in subversion) [22:16] never mind, too late for me for more trials. beyond my skills [22:16] you did that in trunk first ? [22:17] argh.... you are right... my fault... [22:17] i think that's the rule [22:17] :) [22:17] yes, yes... (tired) [22:17] np [22:18] in "trunk".. you mean in 5x, isn't it? [22:18] nope, in trunk [22:18] actually [22:18] so, are they in backporting mode from trunk to 5.x? [22:18] nope, but you have to do it in trunk always, then the proposed branches if any [22:19] 5x proposed branch will come later [22:19] I mean /branches/5.x/ [22:20] well, i am not sure now if we can touch 5.x much before release and if there will be many merges yet to trunk [22:20] so i propose trunk [22:20] ok, I commmit to trunk then (I don't want to break anything as delicate as such in 5x before release) [22:20] or is the problem in 5.x too ? (because of the language) [22:21] never mind, I don't know (didn't have time to test) [22:21] i see :) [22:21] trunk, and bed [22:21] xavi: I do not understand what is the problem [22:22] I will -1 this commit' [22:22] sylvieg: the problem is if the translation of the icon label is "Foo's Bar" it probably breaks the javascript to switch the wysiwyg/wiki mode [22:22] get a tiki with svn 4x. set interface to Catalan. edit a wiki page with wysiwyug, and attempt to switch editor to wiki: you can't [22:23] but the fix is somewhere else [22:23] clicking in the button does nothing. [22:23] thanks luciash for the explanation [22:23] * sylvieg needs to remember teh good fix [22:24] sylvieg: maybe it needs different function than the current htmlentities() used there [22:24] ok, so please, -1 that commit [22:24] If I knew how to revert, I would do [22:24] no no it is something lese [22:24] (too late, probably) [22:24] so I don't commit that to trunk [22:25] I do -1 and nyloth team wil reverse [22:25] ok, thanks, and sorry for extra work [22:25] I thought that this change frmo ' to " was needed anyway [22:25] but it seems not [22:25] I fixed about 50 templates but did not have to finish ... [22:25] xavi: have a good and refreshing night :) [22:26] yes, I need such night :-) [22:26] I think it is this [22:26] * xavi washing teeth already [22:27] LOL [22:27] when using for instance alt='{tr}vvv{/tr}' [22:27] it does not work it must be alt="{tr}xxx{tr}" [22:28] sylvieg: why it doesn't work ? you mean the JS ? bad dode ? [22:28] s/dode/code [22:31] tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r27480 10/trunk/lib/payment/behavior/execute_datachannel.php: [FIX] Fix svn:keywords "Id" [22:34] my son looking for a screen capture - what are you using [22:34] shutter [22:35] +1 for shutter [22:35] maybe the problem is here instead?: line 196 in lib/smarty_tiki/block_textarea.php: [22:35] return '".tra('You are about to leave this page. Changes since your last save will be lost. Are you sure you want to exit this page?')."'; [22:36] * sylvieg trying to convince him to help me with tiki this summer [22:36] that's another line that I changed in that edit of language.php, and the translation includes single quotes [22:37] xavi: that's wrong, isn't it ? [22:37] no idea [22:37] sylvieg: would be cool :) [22:38] the quotes of return do not make sense to me [22:39] why not just: return tra('You are about to leave this page. Changes since your last save will be lost. Are you sure you want to exit this page?'); [22:39] * sylvieg has brain freeze .. needs to remember [22:41] so is Dreamhost good option for Tiki ? [22:41] http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting.html [22:44] I think it is in marc list - you know when he said you need serious hosting in devel list [22:45] yes I did a fake example - as I do not remember [22:45] {xxx param='{tr}yyy{/tr}'} [22:45] can not work [22:46] must be replaced with {xxx param="{tr}yyy{/tr}"} [22:47] ah, u mean in smarty [22:47] yes [22:48] i am not sre it is the same problem xavi talked about, it was in toolbarlib.php [22:48] s/sre/sure [22:48] because tr result can always have ' [22:49] i see [22:49] but in theory in language.php any translated content should have apostrophes escaped with \' [22:50] not sure it works [22:50] and translators are not ready to antislash stuff [22:50] or the result of them generated via the tr smarty block nd tra() function [22:50] s/nd/and [22:51] err s/block/prefilter/ [22:51] or whatever it is :-) [22:51] yep, it should be job of the tr/tra result [22:51] to escape [22:52] I found one comit 26334 : [FIX]smarty: all the params that contains {tr} must be enclosed with double quotes in case the translation contains a single quote [22:52] but as you say, it is not sure what would be the result in every circumstances [22:53] because returning ' in every case might not work probably [22:54] I did that because it was the only way I found out to fix the problem [22:54] and I do not want the translator to be overwhelming [22:55] but I wnat the tpl writer to be overwhelming [22:55] :D [22:55] yep, must be in best practices [23:02] oops missed up with screen capture and how do you say that ... capture of screen to do a video not a jpg.. [23:03] gtk-recordMyDesktop [23:04] or xvidcap [23:04] thx luciash [23:04] and further edition with kdenlive [23:04] :) [23:04] and kdenlive can use recordmydesktop also [23:04] PiTiVi is my favorite now, xavi ;) [23:05] ah, nice [23:05] :-) [23:05] xavi: weren't you on your way to bed ? ;) [23:05] yes, I am :-) [23:06] Catalan guy - never sleeps [23:07] :-) [23:07] when his wife is not at home ;) [23:08] or she is watching tv :-) [23:08] many greetings :) [23:08] I will [23:09] xavi did you see the woody allen movy about this artist and the 2 american gilrs [23:09] nope [23:09] you did? [23:10] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0497465/ not he best link - but [23:10] it is very nice a lot of Barcolona feeling and amrican culture [23:11] ah, nice :-) [23:11] do they ever sleep in the film? [23:11] you should look at this [23:11] we will watch it [23:12] sleep with each other - or sleep in a time frame ;-) [23:12] sleep in a time frame :-) [23:12] since you said that Catalan people never sleep :-P [23:13] ok, finally , subscribed to tw-cvs list [23:13] and eough is enough for today. [23:13] g'night [23:13] good night [23:14] nite xavi [23:14] I'll keep the irc open, in case anybody gets enlightened aobut the single quote issue... or even better, the PluginR & pretty tracklers issue :-) [23:14] so tomorrow I'll read it :-) [23:30] *** ClaraM has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [23:43] New Forum Posts: SERIOUS ISSUE: Upgrade gives "Unknown column 'version_minor' in 'field list'" error - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37355