#tikiwiki 2010-06-03,Thu

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squall	hello, I search a french support, is possible, thanks	[00:29]
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Kimberlee	hello.	[01:23]
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luciash	polom hi Kimberlee	[05:59]
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Kimberlee	hi luciash g'night.	[06:15]
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CIA-61	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r27481 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-user_watches.tpl: [FIX] Fix spelling	[06:32]
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xavi	toctoc	[07:22]
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luciash	xavi: cotcot	[07:35]
xavi	morning xavi likes having new energy around :-)	[07:36]
luciash	hi :)	[07:36]
xavi	I've found many many places with '{tr} .... {/tr}' still, even in trunk xavi is tempted to kill them all! xavi would substitute them for "{tr} .... {/tr}"	[07:37]
luciash	i understand but i think you have to be patient and wait for 5.1	[07:40]
xavi	yes, I know (I was thinking in trunk (not branches/5x)	[07:41]
luciash	anyway, you have to wait at least until 5.0 final is out or sylvie will kill you ;) (merges)	[07:41]
xavi	:-) ok, I'll send a message to devel list, at least, about it	[07:42]
luciash	(maybe she would say "merdes" instead :-p)	[07:42]
xavi	:-)	[07:42]
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luciash	good idea	[07:43]
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xavi	email sent back to other work	[08:02]
	any mysql guru around at this time? we seem to have a problem in the upgrade scripts from tiki 2.1 to 4.x or 5.x.... see this: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37355&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_asc#comments it seems that a column "version_minor" is missing in table tiki_pages when you upgrade from 2.1...	[08:10]
	I wonder if this is the right mysql command to fix old mysl installations without it: ALTER TABLE `tiki_pages` ADD `version_minor` int(8) NOT NULL default '0' AFTER `version`;	[08:19]
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luciash	maybe, i'm no mysql guru :)	[08:36]
xavi	oh well, I got it! full story: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37355&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_asc#comments I'll commit the solution :-)	[08:40]
luciash	:)	[08:41]
xavi	but.... will this fix the problem of defective upgrades ? which run the defective upgrade process beforehand? I mean, the defective upgrde script is this one: installer/schema/20090808_add_wiki_minor_edits_tiki.sql as in proposals/4x for some reason, this command didn't work for that user: alter table tiki_pages add column version_minor int(8) NOT NULL DEFAULT 0; in his server, I mean and looking at other upgrade commands, I guess that this should work for him: ALTER TABLE `tiki_pages` ADD `version_minor` int(8) NOT NULL default '0' AFTER `version`; anyway, both commands worked for me on ubuntu iwth mysql 5.x, etc note that backticks are missing from the former upgrade schema my question is: if I fix that upgrade schema from 2009 August, what wil happen to installations where they already run with that older syntax? when they upgrade again, I guess that they will not run the new (updated) sql file, because the date is old for them anyway, I'll commit that slight change that should work in all cases, looking at the syntax of the other sql schemas	[08:43]
CIA-61	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r27482 10/branches/5.x/installer/schema/20090808_add_wiki_minor_edits_tiki.sql: tikiwiki: [FIX]For some reason, some users upgrading from 2.1 reported that this fix was tikiwiki: missing for them, and it seems to be slightly different from other schemas tikiwiki: (upper case and backtikcs). For more info, see tikiwiki: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37355&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_asc#comments tikiwiki: . I'm not mysql guru but this also works for me, and it looks more standard tikiwiki: mysql syntax in tiki schemas. tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r27483 10/branches/proposals/4.x/installer/schema/20090808_add_wiki_minor_edits_tiki.sql: tikiwiki: [br/r27482][FIX]For some reason, some users upgrading from 2.1 reported that tikiwiki: this fix was missing for them, and it seems to be slightly different from other tikiwiki: schemas (upper case and backtikcs). For more info, see tikiwiki: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37355&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_asc#comments tikiwiki: . I'm not mysql guru but this also works for me, and it looks more standard tikiwiki: mysql syntax in tiki schemas.	[08:54]
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harrierpark	hi, I am installing tiki. The documentation says that 3.5 is the current version. I have tried 4.2 and 5.0 on my mac (using MAMP) and I like the newt theme on 5.0 the best. I have not had any stability issues, the download page warns against using it in production. Is it reasonably save to use?	[09:51]
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martijn85	hello	[10:39]
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martijn85	where within tikiwiki 4.2 can I enable the function to search withing a wiki page not a global search. but within the page	[10:40]
luciash	one page ? or all wiki pages ? martijn85: for "all wiki pages search" look for "Search Wiki Page (new)" module on tiki-admin_modules.php	[10:52]
martijn85	just on one page which is in the screen for like when u have a gigantic wiki page and u need to search for 1 particular word	[11:05]
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luciash	martijn85: then use Ctrl + F martijn85: browser built-in "find on page" martijn85: or create custom form going to the same page with param &highlight=foo martijn85: where it will highlight all "foo" found on the page martijn85: there's no need to create such search to be included in Tiki	[11:10]
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martijn85	that's correct but in my thoughts I saw an option in wiki	[11:16]
ricks99	hi all :)	[11:16]
martijn85	where it includes search form on wiki page particular but maybe it was in my dreams :P	[11:16]
Hans__	how do I set up a wiki page what has a completely different layout than the other page. Like different logo, different menu styles, different content. BUT I want to use the same tracker, galleries, users, groups as the rest of tiki	[11:17]
luciash	Hans__: every page should have unique id="" attribute of html tag Hans__: so you can create CSS sing that s/sing/using	[11:18]
Hans__	what do I do with that Id? I have seen it just continue So I put s/sing/using where? Sorry, I'm not an expert	[11:19]
luciash	you put in your custom CSS something like: #theid body {background-color: red} etc. or you can try the Tiki's Theme Control feature sorry, gotta run now, bbl luciash passing the mic to ricks99 ;)	[11:20]
ricks99	errr... um.... @Hans__: Try somehting like this: http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Customizing+Per+Page (still in beta, so use with caution :) ) use that process to load a specific css for a specifi page. you can use this css to override any/all settings to make the page appear as custom is that what you're trying to do... ricks99 still needs more coffee	[11:22]
Hans__	looks great ricks99, so I assume I also can add java script code there. That is exactly what I was looking for. You guys are great!!!!!!!	[11:25]
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ricks99	if you want to include Jaascript on a per-page basis, use the JS plugin (or the HTML plugin) on that particular wiki page ricks99 hands the mic back to luciash	[11:29]
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CIA-61	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27484 10/branches/5.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.preference.php: [FIX]pref: a little less confusing message	[11:56]
luciash	luciash is back thank you ricks99 :)	[12:06]
sylvieg	I need an advice .. there are 3 prefs 'print_pdf_from_url', 'print_pdf_webkit_path', 'print_pdf_webservice_url' that are only use in the plugin archivebuilder They are not in a panel... I added them as dependencies of wikiplugin_archivebuilder but the search does not work on dynamic build preference... so where do I put them? in general a fildset print?	[12:09]
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CIA-61	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27485 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-general.tpl: [FIX]prefs: add the print settings in a panel	[12:20]
luciash	sylvieg: where did you added the dependencies ? if it doesn't work i would say the search should be fixed not to workaround it	[12:21]
sylvieg	I put them in general	[12:21]
luciash	you're too fast :)	[12:21]
sylvieg	perhaps they will be used for other that archivebuilder... remember the 3 libs to generate pdf	[12:22]
luciash	yep, probably, that would make sense i still don' know what the metrics are	[12:22]
sylvieg	somebody spent 2 hours yesterday to understand where to set them .. I spent 10 mn to add them ;-)	[12:23]
ricks99	is pdf being re-added in tiki 5?	[12:23]
sylvieg	archivebuilder plugin is working....	[12:23]
luciash	it builds zips or what ? btw	[12:24]
sylvieg	so I suppose that for 6 we can put back everything together yeas a zip of pdf	[12:24]
luciash	s/of/or/ ?	[12:24]
sylvieg	it builds a zip of wiki page and tracker attachments s/pages the problem is so far I understand it needs a task on your server - that is GPL... or you find a webservice to do that.... so we are still a little stuck	[12:25]
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luciash	:-/ i can produce nice pdf using x(ht)ml+xslt, but it requires Apache FOP, which is also third party binary and not LGPL compatible... :-[12:30] <luciash> what was wrong with the previous PDF lib in Tiki btw ?	[12:28]
sylvieg	do not ask me! I did not introduce myself one of the 3 pdf libs ;-)	[12:32]
ricks99	the old PDF lib was not very good. did not produce quality PDFs	[12:32]
sylvieg	but it is true - that with zend we need to use their lib...	[12:33]
luciash	but at least it worked without any additional software needed on the server ;) ZendPDF ? :)	[12:33]
ricks99	it did not work well at all.	[12:34]
sylvieg	sylvieg must say she is confused - need some time to reconsider all the pdf stuff	[12:37]
ricks99	is pdf being added in for 5.0, or 5.x? ricks99 hopes tha t5.0 is released soon	[12:38]
sylvieg	we still have lib/mozilla2ps/mod_urltopdf.php stuff taht is probably working if you instal that	[12:39]
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CIA-61	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r27486 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-admin-include-wiki.tpl: [FIX] Prevent wiki home page setting from getting replaced with group homepage if set at the time the "admin" changes the admin...wiki settings.	[13:23]
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martijn85	good afternoon I am using tikiwiki 4.2 and showing images on my wiki works great but I see some kind of plugin @ each image is there a way I could hide that plugin option (plugin:img)	[13:24]
ricks99	not sure i understand. images are added to wiki pages via the IMG plugin. there's no other way to get images on a wiki page (afaik)	[13:28]
martijn85	I understand but showing pages to anonymous will show a { } with a pencil there is no hide that for people or only show it to administrators? the {} with a pencil	[13:29]
ricks99	need to change your Anonymous group permissions then. Do not allow anonymous to edit plugins	[13:30]
martijn85	is at every picture	[13:30]
	hmm i changed permission tiki_p_plugin_preview , tiki_p_plugin_approve and tiki_p_plugin_viewdetail but no solution..	[13:41]
ricks99	no. u need to disable the ability to edit the page (tiki_p_edit)	[13:42]
martijn85	in the admin panel I also get this Enable edit plugin icons ah oke then I have to accept it because a wiki only works with editors ;p	[13:42]
ricks99	sorry, but i don't understand? do you want users to be able to edit the page or not?	[13:43]
martijn85	to edit the page YES but at every image I get a {} with a pencil with plugin:img and I don't want people to see that just the picture an sich	[13:45]
ricks99	? so how will they edit the picture?	[13:45]
martijn85	but I think (Enable edit plugin icons) will maybe fix this?	[13:46]
ricks99	if all u want to do is turn off the icon, disable the "enable edit plugin icons"	[13:46]
martijn85	that's the only question okey thanks thanks	[13:46]
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CIA-61	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r27487 10/trunk/templates/freetag_list.tpl: [ENH]use icon instead of (x). added title text for ux	[13:58]
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harrierpark	Hi I am setting up a new site and am uncertain which version to use. 3.5 is LTS, 4.2 is promoted on the download screen and 5.0 has payment features I'd like to use, but is it stable? All advice is appreciated.	[15:30]
xavi	harrierpark: hi. Payment features are experimental (welcome to experiment :-) ) if you are not in a hurry to have it in production, go for 5.0 if you are starting from zero	[15:37]
ricks99_	Q: is it possible to use antibot protection on a per-feature basis? For example, require it for anonymous freetag, but not for anonymous tracker?	[15:39]
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xavi	ricks99: nope, it's not coded yet :-)	[15:39]
ricks99	hm.... but you're working on it? :_)	[15:40]
harrierpark	to xavi, thanks for the response. Is stability is not really an issue among the versions?	[15:40]
xavi	at ricks99: nope² if you are starting from zero, tiki5 is stable. it's not release as the new stable version because some issues when upgrading from some tiki4 installation (depends on certain type of previous installation, etc.) harrierpark: ^ ricks99: but it should be too difficult to code, if you have time to get more skills :-) ricks99: I managed to learn how to add antibot captcha for anons on some features and you can learn from the "contribution" feature explained in the "hello world" tutorial, which has a similar configuration screen to what you are looking for with antibot hth	[15:40]
ricks99	y, i know how to add it. but i was looking for an existing (easy) way to make it optional. otherwise, i need to add entirely new set of preferences for each feature :(	[15:43]
xavi	"existing": false that's all I can say, with my limited knowledge and limited time and good luck if you do, of course (I can also say that :-) )	[15:43]
ricks99	tx anyway... kinda confirmed what i thought :-)	[15:44]
xavi	:-) ricks99: btw, congratulations for the nice work you have in smarties site. I couldn't resist to improve the permissions page at doc.tw.o with content from smarties luckily, the copyright licenses are compatible, afaik :-)	[15:45]
ricks99	yup. CCSA with attribution. copy & paste as uyou desire :)	[15:47]
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ricks99	woo hoo! 100% xhtml validation (finally)	[16:08]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3208 - - since upgrade to 5. ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3208	[16:31]
luciash	ricks99: depends on page ;) don't try other features rather	[16:33]
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ricks99	hm... using freetags, i see no difference when type=list or type=cloud (using 5.x ) no wonder. the TPL {if} has an error	[17:01]
	oh.. nvr mind. i understand now	[17:08]
xavi	xavi remembers a Spanish saying: "A few words are needed for a good learner" and in the limit, no words from others are needed for a good learner such as ricks99 ;-)	[17:09]
ricks99	i guess it depends on which words, eh?	[17:10]
xavi	:-)	[17:10]
ricks99	ricks99 still thinks ther's something odd with freetags when type=list. i'm not seeing what i would expect	[17:10]
xavi	oh well, that's the saying...	[17:10]
ricks99	hm... doesn't translate real well... :(	[17:11]
xavi	s/a few words/just a few words in Spanish: "Al buen entendedor, pocas palabras bastan" but I don't know how to properly translate... that former one was a quick approach in simple words	[17:11]
ricks99	ah.. sort of like... a good leaner knows when to listen instead of talking?	[17:14]
xavi	nope, it's not that meaning, but this is a good candidate for a new saying :-) when you are in front of a good learner, you don't need to provide more than a few wors for that person to understand what you were going to say s/wors/words	[17:15]
ricks99	:) here's your chance to teach me..... i want to list the top 10 tags used in a site. A simple numerical list, in order of most used. how? type=list shows me a list, but tags are in ABC order	[17:16]
xavi	3 words: "beyond my skills" which could have been (according to the saying): "beyond..." (1 word) so, sorry I can't help more	[17:17]
ricks99	ricks99 off to dig through the php :( sourt_mode doesnt work. maybe this isn't possible.... *sort_mode	[17:19]
fabricius	bye lads and laddies	[17:22]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: How to show Top XX freetags? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37367	[17:29]
sylvieg	do we have a plugin COMMENT because ~tc~ is interpreted after the plugins are interpreted	[17:39]
ricks99	do u mean like a html comment, or just something like the RemarksBox plugin?	[17:46]
luciash	something like ~tc~ ;) sylvieg: afaik we don't have one but it would be easy to have one which would return '';	[17:50]
sylvieg	I will parse 2 time ~tc~ - I think it is the best	[17:51]
CIA-61	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27488 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]parsing: parse 2 times ~tc~ because plugins can be in ~tc~ and do not need to be parsed and plugins can produce ~tc~	[17:52]
sylvieg	I was on a site hyper hyper slow the user has tons on TRACKERLIST in ~tc~	[17:54]
ricks99	sylvieg: do u know anything about freetags. see my Q ^^^	[17:55]
sylvieg	which module freetags_most_popular?	[17:59]
ricks99	y	[18:00]
sylvieg	strange because the code in sort on count aha ah perhaps you are right	[18:00]
ricks99	i think the tsort_mode parameter is broekn. i can't sort ANY tags (see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-browse_freetags.php )	[18:01]
sylvieg	I see the problem	[18:01]
ricks99	there's no change when sortying by abc or count	[18:01]
sylvieg	can you try this lib/freetag/freetaglib/php	[18:01]
ricks99	:-) easy fix?	[18:01]
sylvieg	replace array_multisort($tag, SORT_ASC, $count, SORT_DESC, $ret); with array_multisort($count, SORT_DESC, $tag, SORT_ASC, $ret); just a guess the documentation of array_multisort is not simple	[18:02]
ricks99	YOU ROCK!!!!!	[18:05]
xavi	+1	[18:06]
ricks99	um...	[18:06]
xavi	sylvieg rock	[18:06]
ricks99	wait...	[18:06]
sylvieg	you can commit in 5 - a bug wait.. perhaps it is not so simple - back to the doc	[18:06]
ricks99	but now my rgular cloud does not sort by ABC i want tiki-browse_freetags to sort by name	[18:07]
sylvieg	ahah	[18:07]
ricks99	the tsort_mode paramter is not being picked up	[18:07]
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sylvieg	sylvieg does not uinderstand how the sort on count can work - mujst be array_multisort($count, SORT_DESC, SORT_NUMERIC, $tag, SORT_ASC, SORT_STRING, $ret); at least	[18:11]
ricks99	ricks99 doesn't even see where the sort paramater is valid in mod-func-freetags_most_popular.php	[18:12]
sylvieg	ther is no sort param .. because it is making no sense to have one... most popular is only one sort	[18:13]
ricks99	on tiki-browse_freetags, there is a sort option: by abc or by count ... but it doesnt seem to work! the link adds a ?tsort_mode=... to the URL , but nothing seems to happen	[18:13]
sylvieg	sylvieg needs to build a site with freetags...	[18:16]
ricks99	take a look at doc.tw.o	[18:16]
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xavi	sylvieg, btw, if you want to test here , you can (a pleasure): http://r-help-es.ourproject.org you have the site built, with freetags and freetaged contetn using tiki5.x (updated 4 hours ago or so) and you have ssh access to that server :-)	[18:18]
sylvieg	but without ssh access I am not very powerful ;-)	[18:19]
xavi	and it's not in production, so that there is som eroom for tests you DO have ssh access	[18:19]
sylvieg	bbl school pickup - time is flying..	[18:20]
xavi	ok	[18:20]
ricks99	tx for looking at this sylvieg	[18:20]
xavi	mine was not a request, just an offer in case it helps (it takes a while to setup a site with freetags and freetagged content)	[18:20]
sylvieg	but most popular should the count with the css ricks99: you do not want taht? a param is missing in the lib	[18:35]
	tiki-browse_freetag seems completly broken to me - what means the sort on the tags or on the results?	[18:43]
ricks99	i want both i want to 1. list by count (biggest first) and list by 2. abc order	[18:45]
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RavenC	polom all! Does the GroupMail profile work in v5 ?	[20:44]
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Kimberlee	hello all.	[21:00]
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sylvieg	since when we had a new sf devel? or there is anymore red carpet.... it is fun at the beginning lot of devels - personal donations - now no devel - no personal donation - suppose it is because we go over the criticalo size	[22:45]
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