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RyanS: tiki 4.2: what is the navigation drop down button menu (next to the search field) referred to as? I somehow disabled mine, and can't remember where that setting is in admin
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Ma: morning
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xavi1: polom
<br> tw.o down
Tikiwiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, tw.o is better known as http://tikiwiki.org or the official website of the project.
luciash: moloq
xavi1: hi luciash
<br> did you know that tw.o is down?
<br> so that intertiki is down, etc.
<br> Tiki is unable to connect to the database
<br> ^that's error message in tw.o
luciash: nope
<br> i was working with profiles.tw.o only so far today
<br> and it was fine half an hour ago or so
xavi1: yes, same as me, but now I can't login to profiles.tw.o because it needs intertiki
Ma: Any news about tiki5 release?
luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: i keep still logged in thanks to remember me ;)
<br> <u>Ma</u>: sorry, i was afk during the weekend so i don't know
xavi1: lucky you :-) (I'm on another computer, another place of the city,e tc.)
luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: i think i somehow fixed the r_test profile installation
xavi1: <u>Ma</u>: no idea. there seems to be some problems still with charsets when upgrading from some tiki 4.x sites, afaik
<br> did you?
luciash: you can test
xavi1: I saw your change in type: wiki (in pretty tracker demo) for type: wiki_page
<br> but that change is not done yet in are_test profile, afaik
<br> plus the instructions page syntax or reference is wrong it seems
luciash: yep, that change was probably wrong
Ma: <u>xavi1</u>: luciash I see.. When would that be fixed you think?
xavi1: <u>Ma</u>: unpredictable, sorry (at least for me)
Ma: okok
xavi1: <u>luciash</u>: ok testing r_test "as is"
luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: i test it too, still says circular refference, but installs at least
xavi1: <u>luciash</u>: however, r_testx pages have no content
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xavi1: whereas there is some content in profiles.tw.o for those pages...
luciash: aah, it seems the refference is wrong, you name them differently
<br> like r_test3_template01
freud__: hi all
xavi1: I did ping lph yesterday for that "circular reference"... I hope he can have a look at it
luciash: <u>id</u>: r_test3_template01
<br> is in the YAML
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luciash: hmm
<br> so nope, that seems correct
xavi1: hi freud_
freud__: i'm trying to display <stx> in an article, but it disappears...any ideas? Guessing it's within PHP itself it gets confused for an actual command....
luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: still, the perms were not assigned to the wiki page object... it works for me with categories
<br> <u>xavi1</u>: i didn't try with direct object perms
xavi1: ok
luciash: <u>freud__</u>: use ~np~<stx>~/np~
<br> <u>freud__</u>: means "no parsing"
freud__: <u>luciash</u>: i tried that...doesn't help...
luciash: <u>freud__</u>: and uncheck "Use HTML" under the article
xavi1: <u>luciash</u>: could you please change for me this bit in the r_test page?: "instructions: Profile_r_test1_page " for "instructions: r_test1"
luciash: <u>freud__</u>: or you can try &gt;stx&lt;
xavi1: <u>freud_</u>: did you try with the html entity for "<"
<br> ?
luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: sure
freud__: <u>xavi1</u>: ???
luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: that is probably also wrong reference
xavi1: <u>freud_</u>: try latest tip from luciash (he knows much better than me this html world :-) )
<br> <u>luciash</u>: I doubt it... I workled for me a few moths ago with that type of reference
freud__: Yup, just wrong way aroud ;) it looks like >stx<
<br> awesome thanks
xavi1: and for some reason, I made some changes... and it stopped working (it stopped loading the instructions page after installation)
luciash: <u>freud__</u>: sorry, quick thought ;)
xavi1: but you got the idea, freud_
freud__: dang it still dissapears...
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luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: done
<br> <u>freud__</u>: wut ? weird
xavi1: <u>luciash</u>: thanks....
-: xavi1 testing
freud__: <u>luciash</u>: where to change the html thing? I'm guessing i've had it enabled/dissabled or whatever in settings somewhere...
luciash: is it Article feature or Wiki feature ?
<br> <u>freud__</u>: try Admin > Wiki or Admin > Articles
<br> gotta go
<br> dogwalk time, bbl
freud__: wiki...and the &gt;stx&lt; works, but only with noparse around it...
<br> tw.o still says it's down...
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freud__: if you go to tw.o and press community it goes to a fail page, database connection error
xavi1: email sent to TAG and noc@tw.o (about tw.o being down)
freud__: <u>xavi1</u>: i think i spoke to you a couple months ago about doubling of content when inserting images in wiki pages....I finally took the leap to linux, now i can't get sefurls to work...any way to tell if .htaccess is in effect?
<br> the doubling thing went away tho :)
xavi1: "doubling": still around in some weird cases (when using some hidden headings like !!- !!!- and wysiwyg on, it seems). I added a bug report recently abot it
<br> <u>freud_</u>: did you run:
<br> cp _htaccess .htaccess
<br> ?
<br> or check if .htaccess is present already?
<br> and you can also check at tiki-phpinfo.php if the apache mod for rewrite is enabled
<br> hth
freud__: I did that, i'm just not sure if I changed the right line in httpd.conf, and to the right string...
xavi1: ah, so it's your own server?
freud__: yup
xavi1: google for "enable rewrite rules" for your distro
<br> or "apache enable rewrite"
freud__: it's pretty well explained in doc.tw.o i'll just fiddle some more...is it natural for a wiki page name containing "/" returning 404 with rewrite enabled?
xavi1: it might be. no idea myself. try with some page name without that
<br> if you use a recent opensuse or suse, mod rewrite is not enabled by default, and I wonder if that is explained in doc.tw.o...
<br> there are so many distro's... and changes between distro versions...
freud__: suse?
<br> googled it, i'm using ubuntu, and xampp(lampp)
luciash: in ubuntu search for a package mod-rewrite or something to install
xavi1: <u>freud_</u>: search for xampp or lampp if you didn't install packages from repos
<br> and if you did from repos, then search for that for ubuntu... I recall that recent ubuntus (9.10 and/or 10.04) disabled mod rewrite by deafult
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chibaguy: polom
xavi1: hi chibaguy
chibaguy: hi xavi1
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luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: yay ! → "Modified permission tiki_p_use_as_template on wiki page/r_test3_template01 for Registered" after applying the r_test profile
xavi1: woohoo, you got it, then :-)
luciash: yup, still there's some issue with circilar reference remaining, dunno which one it could be
<br> ah, might be the last module in the Menu
<br> after approving it says: "Unable to determine which field to show. Tracker identifier may be invalid, or the tracker has no main field and neither Field identifier nor Field name were set.No records to display"
xavi1: or the a page name which is wrog
<br> wrong
chibaguy: Hmm, I'm getting Fatal error: Undefined class constant 'MYSQL_ATTR_INIT_COMMAND' in tiki-installer.php again. I thought that was fixed. (trying to install with current branch 5)
xavi1: <u>chibaguy</u>: are you using php 5.3.0?
luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: chealer said it is PHP 5.3.0
xavi1: I read somewhere that it's due to a known bug in 5.3.0
luciash: *g*
xavi1: thus, use 5.2.9 or 5.3.1, etc.
chibaguy: hm, ok.
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ricks99: @chibaguy: known issue. see release notes
luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: hmm, it seems not to be the culprit (the last items module), rather it seems it is buggy itself
<br> {MODULE(module="last_tracker_items")}{MODULE} looks correct, still it shows the error message
xavi1: mmmm
<br> <u>luciash</u>: at least, I detected one error (from me), and one potential source of trouble
luciash: <u>xavi1</u>: good :)
xavi1: <u>error</u>: where it says "content: wikicontent:Profile_r_test1_page" it should say: "content: wikicontent:Profile_r_test1"
luciash: right
xavi1: and potential source of trouble: two descriptions of wiki pages are equal
luciash: hmm, non-unique description shouldn't be a problem
xavi1: "Interface to send datasets"
<br> shouldn't, imho, also, but who knows....
luciash: i will fix the error
xavi1: thks (tw.o is still down)
luciash: fixed
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luciash: bbl
chibaguy: cool, after downloading and installing the php update, wampserver2 has menu options to switch between php 5.3.0 and 5.3.1.
xavi1: :-)
ricks99: @chibaguy: yes, same with mysql. & apahce. can have multiple version and select which to use
chibaguy: could be handy, I guess.
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chibaguy: looks like the logo is too high in a fresh install, because it depends on the top menu being active to get its top margin. should be fixed somehow.
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xavi1: <u>ricks99</u>: see http://irc.tikiwiki.org - maybe not *everybody* but *somebody* (and reported in this channel some minutes ago)
<br> i.e. not everybody following this irc chat, and email might not be read yet
ricks99: k.
<br> isnt there a "status" irc channel, too?
luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: maybe something like class="{if $prefs.topmenuorhowitiscalled}margintop {/if}sitelogo"
chibaguy: sounds right, luciash.
<br> <u>ricks99</u>: #tikinoc
luciash: or #tikimonitor or something
<br> iirc
ricks99: tikinoc. tx luciash
<br> btw, can some tell me what "noc" is an abbreviation for?
<br> tx chibaguy :-)
chibaguy: no idea. maybe it's french.
<br> ;-)
ricks99: just reported it... we'll see
<br> what happens
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chibaguy: I guess there's some reason for that, but it isn't known, it seems.
xavi1: network operations and communication [team], maybe?
chibaguy: yeah, that's probably it. :-)
luciash: noc means night in czech :-p
xavi1: we need solutions the old way, probably: "red line" to cell phone from ohertel .... :-)
ricks99: lol
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chibaguy: luciach, the "server is down" messages are probably like a knock on the door at night for changi. ;-)
luciash: :)
sylvieg: tw.org is no more hosted by ohertel?
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luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: until now it was, afaik
chibaguy: <u>sylvieg</u>: are you getting the "unable to connect to db" message at tw.o?
sylvieg: yes
<br> I suppose mysqld is down..
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xavi1: g'morning, sylvieg
<br> bbl
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fabricius: Hello
<br> I have seen a problem with some of the tikiwiki.org pages
ricks99: @fabriclus: thanks. this has been reported
chibaguy: just some? ;-)
fabricius: I can open info*, doc* and com* with firefox and safari, while dev* and themes* I can only acces with safari, but NOT with firefox
<br> ah ok, already reported
ricks99: hmm... *i* can caccess dev.tw.o on FF no issues
fabricius: yes, told mose some day before (IM) and marc yesterday
chibaguy: I can access themes ok with opera.
ricks99: community site (tikiwiki.org/home) is currently down
fabricius: I do not know exactly where the prob would be -> prob with my personal FF settings, or of the version or the server
chibaguy: Seems like the sites should be either up or down without regard to the browser.
fabricius: So anyway, I would be prepared too cooperate to find out
<br> ok, community seems to be off at all, right
chibaguy: I can get themes.tikiwiki.org ok with firefox.
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fabricius: I get this message:
chibaguy: <u>fabricius</u>: is that error at the home page of themes.tikiwiki.org?
fabricius: yes!
chibaguy: Maybe it's a matter of timing, but I don't get the error.
fabricius: and dev is similar -> line 203
<br> I have those problems since a couple of days
chibaguy: Interesting, both sites load fine for me. Why don't you try clearing your browser's cache?
fabricius: it´s odd, because with my firefox I only get such messages, when I didn´t finishe an installation right or such
<br> and others seem not to have this problem with firefox at all
<br> anybody used to installing 4.2 on a virtual webspace?
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: realised another prob with themes.tikiwiki.org
chibaguy: ok
fabricius: <u>chibaguy</u>: once I am there with safari, I flip the menuitems of the top-bar, the page is reloading straightaway
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: I would hav to be very quick, to get a subitem clicked
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: if I am, them page changes, if I am too slow, page just reloads
chibaguy: I'll check. Is that safari on mac or windows?
fabricius: on windows xp
chibaguy: ok
fabricius: mom I´ll look for the safari version
<br> safari 4.0.5
<br> firefo was 3.5.5
<br> x
chibaguy: the menu works normally for me, with same safari version. Are you waiting for the page to fully load (the menu js is the last thing to load)?
<br> sometimes I'm impatient and try to use the menu before the javascript is there for it.
fabricius: Thought I would have waited for a while - asking a different question here
<br> now the prom seem to be gone
<br> what I realised on tikiwiki pages s long loading times
<br> sometimes awful long
<br> different installation on different servers
<br> but I have seen several items in the documantation, that i will check first
<br> but is this a general problem, or usually solved, once the systemadministrator gets into it?
chibaguy: yeah, a lot depends on the configuration.
fabricius: I got into some kind of huge problems, as I am quite a noob in IT generally ... just started a short while ago. But now got responsible for an ambitious project of a NGO that has literally no money
<br> so my questions to the community turn out somehow to be a bit complex and to concern fundamental concepts, like to do this and that better with workspaces or with multitiki
<br> and it turned out, that I have some difficulties to put all that what I want into some few word
<br> So I started to try it with some grafical expression - svg and will oin that on my webpage to refer to it, when I come back with my questions to the chat or a mailing list
chibaguy: ok
fabricius: good idea?
<br> do not know if this is a usual way to go further in the community
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fabricius: I am missing some sort of documentation to get the concepts sorted first
<br> documentation seems to me like a growing djungle
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fabricius: and I´d say with some help, I could write some of that down ... I would see it like dogfeeding myself from both project
ricks99: @fabricius: <shameless plug> try the begnner's guide: http://twbasics.keycontent.org </shameless plug>
fabricius: <u>ricks99</u>: thxs a lot
<br> ah tiki for smarties ;-) already know that
<br> good guide, but same problem
<br> I brought the Tikiwiki in to get the right software to match everything what we need in the NGO
<br> and getting some people together who are prpared to share the development of the website(s)
<br> some even are IT profs or semiprofs
<br> but nobody knows Tikiwiki
<br> So I have to learn it very quick
chibaguy: well, workspaces is a new addition, so nobody really knows how to use it yet, as far as I know.
luciash: they just have to play with it and they will learn
fabricius: I know, and I got quite far in a short time ... with tikiwiki and all around
chibaguy: (tikiwiki.org is back up; ohertel posted on the dev list)
fabricius: learned some HTML last december, had to adjust a javacript some weeks ago, without ever having seen such stuff before and so on
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: thx
<br> at the moment I am a bit stuck, because I have to do some fundamental decitions and could not yet phrase the right questions
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fabricius: anyway, I go ahead setting up my proj
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fabricius: project page up and running, to be able to show my quesions more understandable.
<br> thxs for all advise so far
<br> so anybody here who has some experience of a manual installation of Tiki 4.x on a virtual server (hosting account)
chibaguy: sorry, not me
ricks99: sorry. im not sure what "virtual server" is :(
luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: you mean VPS or shared hosting ?
fabricius: <u>luciash</u>: shared hosting
<br> already uploaded and unzipped
luciash: FTP ?
fabricius: will copy the local php into db-folder now
<br> er, yes, had to do so, because on this virtual hosting server there is no SSH
<br> on the managed one I have, but this site I´ll install on our virtual project server
<br> there I can grant sysadmin access to a larger group, of only workgroups own datas
<br> no memberfiles or such here
<br> so FTP access I have and everything is prepared (subdomain, database, local.php - just to bring it in place in a minute)
<br> question would be, if local.php and .htaccess would be all to do
ricks99: @faricius: just run tiki-install.php
fabricius: Tiki Installer cannot proceed
<br> some files or folders not writeable
ricks99: did u cmod the necessary directories?
fabricius: <u>ricks99</u>: seems that i need to give 777 somewhere?
<br> no, I did not
<br> I´ll see in the providers doc, where to do without shell
<br> mom
ricks99: pls see http://bit.ly/8YOacK for details
fabricius: ah, no, I just call their support and ask - we pay anyway ... ricks99 and I´ll check your link aswell ;-) thx
luciash: so yes, we have experience, what's the problem you struggle ? did you read http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Install+by+FTP ?
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franck: <u>xavi</u>: I understand you are in Barcelona?
<br> I'm here till Friday
xavi: ???
franck: <u>xavi</u>: marclaporte suggested we meet, if you are in Barcelona
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xavi: yes, I am. Do we know each other?
-: xavi confused
xavi: I'm fine to meet, just curious
<br> franck = franck martin?
franck: not sure we met before, came to a tikifest in Strasbourg a few years ago
xavi: oh well, I was not there
luciash: <u>xavi</u>: franck was more active here in IRC in the past ;) he manages the monitoring of tiki servers if i am not mistaken
franck: <u>luciash</u>: correct
luciash: :)
xavi: <u>franck</u>: and are you the guy behind maps.tw.o ???
-: xavi still confused
luciash: :)
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franck: I did the code for maps
xavi: ah, ok... then I am a fan of you :-)
franck: but I have not touched it in a year or two
<br> cool ;)
xavi: I wanted to learn how to install and use mapserver a while ago, but didn't spend too much time
franck: we can chat
xavi: since I saw that GIS data is not easy to convert to mapserver, from the file formats our government use for Catalonia,e tc.
franck: I'm at a conf this week and leave on Friday morning
xavi: ahhhh, that conference... I tried to join the workshop on mapserver, many months ago, but it was full already
franck: not that one...
xavi: ah, ok
franck: The conf is at the hilton, centre diagonal and I stay near by
-: xavi checks the place
franck: <u>xavi</u>: http://www.maawg.org/events/upcoming_meetings
<br> tonight is a bit free and thursday evening is free for me
xavi: nice place, near the beach
franck: where are you?
xavi: however, even if they may call it "centre diagonal", is not at the centre, and is not the "Hilton" in diagonal street
<br> I live in the other end of the city
<br> like 8 km away
<br> but I'll see...
franck: if there is a subway...
-: xavi cheking maps
franck: the subway here is el forum
xavi: do you want to see the city centre?
<br> or some place near the center? or are you pretty busy with your conference in that place?
<br> I might manage to get there....
<br> I'm still in "student grading" mode, and I can take my students homework to review in the laptop... and go there regardless of the time I take...
<br> I don't know if today... (should change something), or thursday evening
fabricius: <u>ricks99</u>: luciash: solved
<br> went through with provider support and used add handler - cgi mode instead of chmod 777
<br> he said it would be easier and more secure
<br> er, who defines, if a host would be tikifriendly or not?
<br> and what would be the criterias?
luciash: if tiki works nicely on it and the support is friendly, it is tiki friendly
franck: <u>xavi</u>: sorry, I was following a workshop
fabricius: <u>luciash</u>: I have tiki 3 running on an unfriendly host and the support was very helpful to get it running
franck: I'm pretty busy with the conf, but thursday I'm free at 4pm
<br> we could have a coffee or something
fabricius: <u>luciash</u>: I will check 4.2 with that provider the next day aswell and if I get in contact with the tiki development crew, I will sort that out aswell
franck: I think I can go to City Centre
fabricius: <u>luciash</u>: I am pretty sure, that they will public the workaround in their HowTos/FAQs, as they have been very thankful that I did write a HowTo in the customers forum
xavi: ok. thursday afternoon I have to be in an exam at 15:30h in another city, but I might be in the Barcelona city centre around 18:30h
<br> franck ^
luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: sounds nice
franck: <u>xavi</u>: sounds ok
fabricius: <u>luciash</u>: So when I did check the different version with them, I would like to have them listed not as tikiunfriendly anymore
<br> <u>luciash</u>: to whom I should get in contact for that in the tiki community?
luciash: ah, is it listed as tiki "unfriendly" now ?
fabricius: <u>luciash</u>: yes it is
luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: to nobody, you can change it yourself, it's a wiki ;)
chibaguy: g'night all
fabricius: but before switching to friendly, I will do some checks of different versions and I hope, they will give me some access to virtual accounts, to check it there aswell
<br> <u>chibaguy</u>: good night ;-)
xavi: g'night chibaguy
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fabricius: <u>xavi</u>: I think about coming to the tikifest in barcelona with my girlfriend - where i could stay over night, anything planned, or kind of more or less affordable hostels around?
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r27519 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-contact.tpl: [FIX] Contact form should show once contact_anon feature is on, even if tiki_p_messages is not assigned to anonymous, since the sending does work...
fabricius: another question: I did setup a Tiki 4 now, but in themes.tikiwiki.org I mostlikely find only themes for Tiki 3 - am I right, or did themes not change from 3 to 4, or am I just kind of blind?
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Kimberlee: hello all.
marclaporte: hi!
Jyhem: Hello
<br> Do we have a way of sending blog titles to twitter automatically ?
pascalstjean: <u>Jyhem</u>: no there is not Twitter integration. Tiki does have ShareThis feature but this is only to allow users to share Blog Posts
Jyhem: Or is the official way "activate RSS and feed the RSS to twitterfeed.com" ?
marclaporte: someone added Shoutbox to Twitter in trunk
pascalstjean: <u>Jyhem</u>: that would be a very simple way of dong it yes.
<br> TwitterFeed would do the trick
Jyhem: Oh. I was just checking. TwitterFeed seems to do the trick, but it's just yet another account to create somewhere else. So I wanted to be sure
<br> I know everything about the ShareThis feature, Pascal. Thanks for mentioning it :-)
pascalstjean: <u>Jyhem</u>: If you are looking at minimizing your Accounts then a Twitter integration is not that difficult to do. Their API is fairly strait forward
franck: <u>marclaporte</u>: note there are other services that use the same API as twitter
Jyhem: <u>pascalstjean</u>: so we could make twitter a blog feature like sharethis... Hmmm... I see where they say the API is easy, but it seems everything is javascript-based. Can the twitter credentials really be read with "view source" ? Strange.
xavi: back
Jyhem: Never mind. I don't have plans for that now. I need to assess clients' actual needs first
<br> Hi Xavi :-)
xavi: hi Jyhem :-)
<br> <u>fabricius</u>: themes for tiki4: if they are not available in theme.tw.o (I don't know), for sure you can get them from mods.tw.o
<br> or from svn mods, at least
fabricius: <u>svn</u>: what´s the correct adress? svn.mods.tw.o?
xavi: <u>fabricius</u>: see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Get+code
<br> search for mods there
fabricius: thx
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27521 10/trunk/ (9 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] API to query shipping costs from providers. Currently, only FedEx is supported. API accessible from PHP and JavaScript (AJAX over JSON)
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CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27522 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-payment.tpl: [ENH] Admin panel for shipping options
marclaporte: FedEx (!)
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luciash: <u>marclaporte</u>: ?
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luciash: FedEx is going to use Tiki ? :)
marclaporte: LOL
luciash: ah, the previous commit :)
<br> would be great reference though ;)
ricks99: Their new motto: "When it positively , absolutely *might* need to get there sometime"
<br> ;-)
<br> <u>Q</u>: is it possible to have a user account that does *not* belong to Registered group?
<br> Using 3.5 LTS?
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: nope
<br> registered is always registered
ricks99: with the "payment" stuff in 5.x, is it possible to sell access to specific page?
luciash: hmm, that is interesting qustion
<br> question
ricks99: my use case is:
<br> have a tiki site (3.5)....
<br> they want to make some pages available to anonymous users who pay a fee
<br> would it make any difference if it were a file gallery or wiki pages?
<br> but these "paying" anonymous visitors should *not* have access to all the items for regular (registered) users
<br> does that make sesn?
<br> *sense
luciash: yes
-: ricks99 thought he saw something about a "tiki subscription" tied to the payment stuff
luciash: you will need to create special Group for them though (for the current regular Registered)
ricks99: i guess that is *not* what it does :(
<br> yeah, i thought of that. then move all of the current "registerd" users to the new "registered+" group
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r27523 10/branches/5.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: [DOC] Add a warning and a description
marclaporte: I hope changi is in a good shape
ricks99: but that seems very... "messy"
xavi: <u>marclaporte</u>: are you good at debugging profiles where your get the message "circular reference" ?
<br> s/your/you
<br> I?m stuck with http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/r_test
luciash: <u>xavi</u>: lph just commited something to better debug of it
<br> it should tell you where the problem is now
<br> <u>xavi</u>: try svn up
xavi: ah, great!
<br> did I say that I emailed lph yesterday for this?
<br> glad he could look at it :-)
luciash: <u>xavi</u>: yep
xavi: <u>luci</u>: and isntructions page: it works nowadays: I had an extra space in front of the "instructions definition". :-)
<br> you can do that with the 2Company Directory" for the pretty_tracker_demo :-)
<br> "Company Directory", I mean
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27524 10/trunk/lib/prefs/shipping.php: [ENH] Adding documentation links
luciash: <u>xavi</u>: ah, nice reveal
xavi: well, you or pascalstjean :-)
<br> or me (it's a wiki page :-) )
luciash: or anybody :)
xavi: yes, sure
ricks99: @marclaporte: made a slight change to the calendar module to better (IMHO) highlight tikifests
marclaporte: where is TikiFest New York?
ricks99: manhattan i thought
<br> somehwere in nyc
-: xavi wishes rss from tiki calendars showed the date again, as in tiki 3.x days... :-/
marclaporte: I mean: how come TikiFest New York is not on front page of info.tw.o?
ricks99: d'oh
fabricius: have to go now
ricks99: only shows the next 3 upcoming
fabricius: bye @all
ricks99: othersiwe list is too long (my $0.02)
<br> but the Show all tikifiests link shows all tikifests for the full year
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xavi: <u>luciash</u>: tried with svn up, but now it says a circular reference from some ref which is used only once... "r_test2_page"
<br> mmm, I wonder where is the problem... I'll check all the other pages used in the profile, just in case.
luciash: <u>xavi</u>: yep, have to check that and make sure you don't reference in the profile when the page is not created by the profile yet
<br> better to reference wiki pages by their final created name than reference id
<br> imho
xavi: <u>luciash</u>: I mean, I'm not calling that page at all
<br> that name is shown only when creating the page
luciash: oh
xavi: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/r_test
<br> yes, to me that profiles are making confusion with pages that only differ in a number, but all the other characters are equal
<br> ok, I think I got where the error might be...
<br> with r_test...
<br> "triki" language
<br> s/triki/tricky tiki
<br> for profiles
luciash: :)
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xavi: nice! r_test officially working again :-)
<br> thanks luciash for all your information and feedback!
luciash: cool
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xavi: it's been mainly thanks to the nice and simple profile example: Pretty_Tracker_Demo , thanks to pascalstjean
<br> argh, too late (he's off)
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xavi: btw, renamed the item in the tw.o menu "Support forums" with "Forums & Lists" ("Support forums & lists" seemed to be too long for some reason, and two letters are the end were not shown)
<br> ricks99 luciash marclaporte ... ^
<br> fabricius reported that he didn't know about those lists, because he never saw any link any where.... => so it wasn't easy enough for neww users to find out about tikiwiki-users list, and/or tikiwki-devel list
ricks99: maybe just "Support"?
xavi: I wish we could say: "look for "lists" in tw.o homepage
ricks99: fwiw, links at footer inlude: forums, email lists, etc.
xavi: if it's hidden in some menu, it's not that easy for newbies... too many links ...
marclaporte: and easier link to "my preferences" and "create my wiki page" would be nice
ricks99: personally, i'd look for "support" before "forum" or "list"
xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: ok, you are right, it's there in the footer area.... so I presume we can leave "support" on top, and also say to users: see link for tw lists in the footer
<br> +1
ricks99: @xavi: and if u want, can get rid of the "all" -- just have "Forums" and "Mailing Lists"
-: ricks99 wonders what a "web" forum is?
xavi: ok, renamed to support
<br> I had that menu open already
<br> to me , all doesn't disturb
<br> "all", I mean
<br> ok, back to other real work
<br> time flies...
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27525 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] date_format: catch exception from malformed timestamps
xavi: bbl
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xavi: sylvieg around ?
sylvieg: yes
xavi: hi
<br> I tried this: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Pretty+Tracker#Pretty_tracker_with_wiki_plugins
<br> I mean, the syntax with smarty...
<br> but it doesn't work for me
<br> you can test yourself, installing profile r_test anc cheking the page r_test3 that you will see in the menu on the right column
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27526 10/branches/5.x/lib/modules/modlib.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Module params: strstr parameters should be $haystack, $needle, not the other way around.
<br> tikiwiki: Also changed it for "the faster and less memory intensive function strpos()" as recommended.
luciash: with the tracker page type is it possible to auto-create wiki page of the same name as the field but add a description too ?
xavi: bbl (short shoping before it's too late)
sylvieg: I do not know xabi - working for me
<br> <u>luciash</u>: I do not think so if nobody else added it
luciash: i'd need to auto create wiki pages with names like foo-bar-went-to-bla-bla-id42 but description like "Foo Bar went to Bla Bla"
<br> for browser title
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: i c, np, ok
-: changi starting final release process
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r27527 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [ENH]tracker: funciton to copy an item over another one
<br> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27528 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing RC2
<br> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27529 10/branches/5.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 5.0
luciash: "Preparing RC2" ?
<br> :)
changi: <u>luciash</u>: Damned Ctrl-R :)
-: changi 5.0 is coming
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27530 10/branches/5.x/lang/ (44 files in 44 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 5.0
Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Topics vs. Categories - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37394
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fabricius: <u>luciash</u>: firefox problem solved
<br> I had to clear my cache and the cookies
<br> sorry that I did not before asking
luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: np
marclaporte: <u>changi</u>: you saw accent problems on dev.two?
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changi: <u>marclaporte</u>: url !?
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27531 10/branches/5.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 5.0
marclaporte: look bottom right footer
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27532 10/branches/5.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 5.0
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marclaporte: <u>changi</u>: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/keywords Accessibility (WAI �ldblquote 508)
Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: failure to start on ARTICLE with 5.0RC2 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=37395
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marclaporte: changi : http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Decision -> Régis Barondeau
<br> doc seems ok, and I am guessing your setup is the same for both. Presumably, the data you received was not identical
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changi: <u>marclaporte</u>: yes maybe
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: on it
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freud1: If i have TW on Ubuntu server on intranet, and intranet has exchange server too, what do I need to send mail from TW to exchange? All these cryptic abreviations are getting to me :) Is it an MTA i need or something else? Any suggestons
<br> Simply don't know what too google for :)
marclaporte: you should be able to use php's mail
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marclaporte: try to send a mail from tiki-install.php
freud1: I've tried "send link to friend" for hours now :) sometimes the page comes back saying it can't be sent, or it just freezes on me...
marclaporte: heh
<br> 1st check if your server can send mail from tiki-install.php or with something like this: http://email.about.com/od/emailprogrammingtips/qt/How_to_Send_Email_from_a_PHP_Script.htm
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turing: hi all
<br> new tikiwiki user here. Can I ask a (hopefully quick) question? :)
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27534 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 5.0
freud1: <u>turing</u>: don't ask to ask, just ask...works for me :)
turing: right, I saw that too late :$ well, the problem is simple. I have created a wiki page whose name contains an accented character
<br> say Velocità
<br> now I want to link to it, but ((Velocità)) is not recognized as a link
<br> and I'm stuck :p
sylvieg: <u>turing</u>: try tiki-admin.php?page=wiki wiki link format -> complete
turing: right away!
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turing: aaand that's perfect!
<br> thank you a lot :)
freud1: <u>marclaporte</u>: the result of the script was totally contradicting itself :) one line saying failed to oopen stream yada, next line saying mesasge sent succesfully....
marclaporte: LOL
freud1: And since my inbox is empty i guess the first line was the most correct one...
<br> still mailq says empty too
Helene: Do I have to understand that using the "wysiwyg & wiki editor" in Tiki4 is REALLY experimental ?? :P:P
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marclaporte: perhaps we should various levels of "experimental" :-)
<br> Helene : try it and let us know
<br> freud1 : did you use tiki-install.php or the other script?
freud1: <u>marclaporte</u>: the other one...in your link, tiki-install is locked
marclaporte: well, unlock it!
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Helene: @marclaporte kind of ... working on my personal wiki but not on the customer' one... ummm... exploring.
freud1: bbl, try more tomorrow, thanks marc!
CIA-62: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r27536 10/tags/5.0/: [REL] Tagging release
changi: <u>marclaporte</u>: charset problem on dev is exactly why we work on it with nyloth
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: dogfood is dogfood
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: modification has to made by hand because there is too much possibility of encoding style.
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: i made it on the bottom and the decision page
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: feel free for anyone to modify pages with charset issue
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-: changi was not thinking that marc will leave :)
luciash: Tiki sends notification mails of wiki page changes with wrong charset encoding even when i have set utf-8 on Admin > General
<br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
<br> is in the message source
<br> Tiki5
sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: is it a user prefs?
luciash: nope, general
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sylvieg: in tiki-user_preferences.php Does your mail reader need a special charset
luciash: it shows utf-8 there too
<br> predefined from general i guess
sylvieg: and other notification - because wiki notif uses zend not the others
luciash: other notifications are fine (not affected by this regression)
<br> like changes of tracker items are sent with correct encoding (utf-8)
-: sylvieg was always upset with this mail lib change
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helene: wysiwyg&wiki editor isn't that bad finally... my settings were not done properly:P but the wysiwyg "by default" is not working right now... maybe my settings again;)
<br> Does anyone know if it's possible to use wysiwyg & wiki editor in sections ? It works on full pages but not on sections... something in the settings? Not finding anything right now...
sylvieg: <u>helene</u>: it is possible
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helene: great! so I won't stop searching ! :)
fabricius: er... tikiadmins around?
<br> I came to an odd page kind of themes.tw.o, but different domain and givimh out redirect.php instead of tar.gz
<br> giving
<br> as template download
luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: if it's zukakakina, it's all right
fabricius: tiki-directory_redirect
<br> https://goeverysite.appspot.com/themes.tikiwiki.org
<br> you know that?
luciash: ah, nope
fabricius: I formyself delete the php straightaway
<br> hopefully not aggressive malware
<br> wont try
<br> hopefully deleting and emtying the bin would be doing it
<br> the link of the tiki+4+themes => Mollio Download seems to be damaged
<br> linking to yahoo
luciash: what link
<br> i mean where is that link
fabricius: 1.) http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Tiki+4+themes
<br> 2.) then Mollio Theme:
<br> http://themes.tikiwiki.org/tiki-directory_redirect.php?siteId=100 =>
<br> problem shoul be with the siteId
<br> should
<br> after I got there the next themes have been on the goeversite.appspot...
<br> I have no idea whats the prob
<br> so I go back to work
<br> just wanted to tell somebody, who could sort that out or knows who can
luciash: i have no idea what is the problem
changi: http://stats.tikiwiki.org/dl/ for those who have time
<br> just test the tiki-5.0.*
luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: it just sends me to http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/themes/mollio.tar.gz
<br> no malware site, just the file path is wrong it seems
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fabricius: <u>luciash</u>: it sends me to sourceforge, but in a quarter of a second futher to http://de.data.toolbar.yahoo.com/bh/v1/epa/?.nrd=1&........
<br> not the hole link
luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: it must be your browser
<br> toolbar
<br> trying to find it somewhere else
fabricius: again? all the other themes I could download without any kind of a problem
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fabricius: and this early eveneing I deleted all the cache
<br> I´ll do again
luciash: <u>fabricius</u>: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/themes/mollio_tiki_4.tar.gz
fabricius: cookies + cache gone now
luciash: is the correct link
<br> i will fix it in the directory of themes.tw.o
fabricius: ok thx
<br> yes prob still there, but thx for the link
<br> bye luciash
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fabricius: hi, another question I have
<br> section
<br> I want to let a menu-item or a module to show up only in a certain section
<br> there is a field where I can edit menus ar modules called section
sylvieg: check the module doc pageon doc.tw.org - I think there is a section param
fabricius: what exactly I have to write in this field, if I want to have for ex the mod tiki-quick-edit shown only in wiki
<br> ah section parameter
<br> sorry, I am not too bad in english, but sometimes I just di not know what to look for in english thx
<br> thank you
<br> worked out ... had to type in wiki page
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: so now I know what to type in, if I want the module ONLY IN certain sections, but what should I do if I would like to have it ONLY NOT in certain sections ... like ONLY NOT in forum?
<br> I know, it must be a bit stressful to help me out this way, with questions I could find somewhere, but xavi gave me the job to get used to workspaces and datachannels until barcelona
<br> so I need to understand sections, parameters and that kind of stuff first and rather quick
<br> and is there any general difference between a coder and a developer, or is that the same?
<br> :-D
<br> it´s a real question
<br> not a joke
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