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CIA-64tikiwiki: 03chealer * r27818 10/branches/proposals/4.x/ (9 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] version is now 4.3 (at least) [04:28]
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wincelhello world ...
anyone here who can help with a bad and weird tikiwiki problem?
I run a tikiwiki page (4.1 unfortunatelly, it is a kind of club thing and they deny me direct ftp access for updating and all the time change the passworts so updating wasn't possible so far)
until some days ago everything was fine
suddenly one forum which was so far only accessible by some users gives an "access denied" even to admins
global permissions for admins to admin and read and such each forum - does not work
individual permissions for that forum to give admins access has no effect
any idea? 		[04:32]
Neil_Melbourne_The error message is from Tikiwiki, not the webserver(e.g. Apache, IIS) right? [04:39]
wincelyes
its the same one would get if the permissions were saying you are not allowed to see that page
but there are no permissions anywhere set
all the other forums work fine 		[04:43]
Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: Access denied suddenly for a single forum even for admins - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37625 [04:48]
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luciashpolom [07:06]
chealergood morning luciash [07:14]
luciashsalut chealer [07:15]
chealerso you finally learned French! :-)
I'm looking at http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37611 		[07:15]
luciashhaha [07:16]
chealerthis reminds me a bug we had around 4.1. a cache issue involving user details
I think the bug was fixed in branch 4.x, but seems to be back in 5.0 		[07:16]
luciashweren't all the *_new modules deprecated ? [07:18]
chealeraha
[février 16, 2010] [02:49:45 PM] <chealer> somebody recently brought a problem on the mailing list where user preferences cache is not being invalidated properly in 4.1. I'm still wondering if somebody fixed that. 		[07:19]
luciashno idea, excuse moi [07:20]
chealerluciash: well, most new modules were eliminated. I think since_last_visit_new is the last one remaining
I did the since_last_visit modules quickly, they're the biggest. they could use more work
since_last_visit is now called Since last visit (simple) and since_last_visit_new is called Since last visit 		[07:20]
luciashah, i c [07:23]
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luciashchealer: what is the difference between them ? [09:12]
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fahmadhello
anyone around ? 		[09:37]
Andurinohello [09:39]
fahmadhey
i have very strange issue
when i try to access a page which does not exits then it will redirected to different page
however i should get option to create page if it does not exists
any idea ... 		[09:42]
AndurinoI do not speak good English
Creo entender que un enlace no te funciona ¿puedes poner la url?
I understand that a link does not work can you put the url? 		[09:52]
luciashfahmad: maybe you have enabled the redirect to simmilar or home page feature [10:01]
AndurinoFor that reason we indicated that if possible we put the url
To see if a redirection is scheduled or coding error 		[10:02]
fahmadluciash: i did not sir :(
how can i check either redirect is enabled or not ?
http://lib.server4sale.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Training+Material
when you click on advance commands
then it will redirect to http://lib.server4sale.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Basic%20Commands
any idea ? 		[10:12]
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ricks99hi all :-) [12:50]
chibaguyhi ricks99 [12:52]
ricks99is info.tw.o down? [12:53]
changiricks99: the server is not completely down :) [12:57]
ricks99... just partially? ;-) [12:58]
changicurrent load 60 :)
damned tracker
someone try to kill us 		[12:59]
chibaguyI was thinking about putting theme information in trackers at themes.tw.o, but am not sure if I should due to site performance issues. [13:09]
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Helene_Is Workspaces really possible with 4.2? [14:01]
chibaguyHelene_: I don't think so. I asked once for some simple documentation, and never got a reply.
or example, etc. 		[14:03]
marclaportePossible via profiles
but better in 5 with gui 		[14:04]
Helene_Ummm.. that's pretty bad news... we tought that 4.2 would allow us to do it for wiki project...
with profiles? 		[14:05]
marclaportedid you read? http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Workspace [14:06]
chibaguyHave I missed the documentation? Or is there none written yet? [14:06]
Helene_but can we install 2 "profiles" in the same wiki? or... [14:07]
marclaporteyes, you can apply as many profiles as you want: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/ [14:07]
chibaguyah, I didn't see that docs page since some additions were made. [14:08]
Helene_I read those... but I'll read it again ... I maybe missed something... thanks !!! [14:10]
chibaguyHelene_: please post back if you were successful or not; I'm curious.
but don't really have time to check out workspaces now, myself. 		[14:11]
Helene_chigabuy: Sure!! If I do it successfully, I will be suprised myself but sure I'm going to publish something on it. I don't understand very well the present documentation and maybe others too.
If I can improve something on tiki it'll be my pleasure;) 		[14:15]
chibaguyok, thank you. [14:16]
ricks99ricks99 is *very* impressed with wysiwyg editgor in 5.x i may never go back to wiki editing! [14:25]
chibaguyricks99, that's good to here. and isn't it still fckeditor in 5, to be updated to ckeditor in tiki 6?
go to hear (I thought that looked strange)
chibaguy at the end of very long day... 		[14:36]
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ricks99ckeditor in 5.x
is 98% perfect
ricks99 just starting the day 		[14:44]
Helene_Does anyone knows of a site using multiple workspaces? I'm not sure Workspaces are really want we need... [14:44]
ricks99I think xavi uses workspaces on a few sites [14:48]
Helene_Great!! I'll ask him (or her... ??) when is going to be online. Thanks ricks99 ! [14:50]
ricks99xavi = him
i believe he is in europe/spain
so possibly a timezone issue 		[14:50]
Helene_ok! good to know.. I could have said "her"... :) [14:51]
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CIA-64tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r27819 10/trunk/lib/ (shipping/shippinglib.php test/shipping/ShippingTest.php): [FIX] Tolerate lowercase letters in zip codes [15:12]
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wikimanAny issues with dynamic content in 4.3? The iframe tag is getting cutoff and the block doesn't show up in admin modules.
Or is it just me? 		[16:06]
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j0n3hi there, maybe you can help me, please: I wan to change background color on the pluginTab, but after changing some values, same color on tab background. Can anybody please help...
i mean css 		[16:53]
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chealerhey jonnyb [17:56]
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Robert__Hey Guys! [19:43]
jonnybhi Robert__ [19:44]
Robert__I used to have dual monitors at my old job, not I have a single winde-screen. I need to shell out some for a dually. [19:44]
jonnybmore pixels is best! [19:45]
Robert__It's difficult, code, documentation, code, browser, repeat [19:45]
jonnybjonnyb introduces Robert__ (who is the jquery.sheet guy) to tiki [19:46]
Robert__hi
I've really only talked to Jonny, Xavi, Marc, and Lu. Nice to meet you guys.
Jonny,
One thing that I was thinking that would be nice to fix is the height with sheets.
Can I include it as one of the parameters used in the plugin on a page? 		[19:47]
jonnybdo you mean store it in the sheet definition? [19:49]
Robert__Not nessisarly. [19:50]
jonnybyes, we could add it as a parameter [19:50]
Robert__I think that we should only need it when embedding. [19:50]
jonnybit should default to the height of the sheet (doesn't it?) [19:50]
Robert__Would it be difficult? I don't mind doing that if it is somewhat simple. [19:50]
jonnybadding width and height would be good [19:50]
Robert__But just for plugin usage.
Outside of that, it may be nice, but not a needed. 		[19:51]
jonnybcan you add it to the dev page? [19:52]
Robert__whats the url? [19:52]
jonnybhttp://dev.tikiwiki.org/Spreadsheet#Jonny
also multi-sheet and multi-instance as discussed on skype 		[19:53]
Robert__Added
In the spreadsheets I have at visop-dev.ourwiki.net I'm using some real world templates.
So I keep running into the snag of that the function doesn't exist in jquery.sheet, and I figure, rather than ditch the plugin, it's probably best to add the new function...
what do you think? 		[19:59]
jonnybhow do you mean? spreadsheet functions? [20:03]
Robert__They are used in formulas [20:04]
jonnybright - like sin() etc you mean? [20:04]
Robert__That way, I go to a spreadsheet, press ctrl+~, revealing all the formulas, select all cells, copy, go over to sheet, make sure there are enough columns and rows, paste, and it works.
yes 		[20:04]
jonnybsounds more advanced the my spreadsheet usage (mainly SUM() ) [20:05]
Robert__Yea, but you have to admit, those functions are generally simple, and pure eye candy for getting others to use tikiwiki+jquery.sheet [20:11]
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jonnybyes, should be fairly trivial to add - the more the merrier, surley? [20:12]
Robert__as long as they aren't finding true pi. [20:12]
jonnybno such thing ;) [20:13]
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Robert__I'm glad you agree [20:13]
jonnybcomputers can't do circles [20:14]
Robert__But they can draw a bunch of poly's and line them up at an intervening angle that resemble a circle. [20:15]
jonnybthat usually enough [20:15]
Robert__Hey Jonny, is there a fix for this height thing? I'm going crazee trying to edit these spreadsheets.
Can I wrap a spreadsheet in a div? 		[20:15]
jonnybshould be quite easy to add a parameter and stick it on the div's style attribute [20:16]
Robert__and fix it's height? [20:16]
jonnybit should already be in one, no? [20:16]
Robert__Yea
I was just thinking of a fast fix
Where should I look to find the parameter parser? 		[20:16]
jonnybyes, you could use {DIV(height=200px)}{DIV} plugin (guessing at the syntax, use the popup form) [20:17]
Robert__How would I wrap it around a spreadsheet? - {DIV(height=200px)}{SHEET(ID=2)}{SHEET}{DIV}
The absent "/" closure makes me a little leery.
No dice. 		[20:19]
jonnybknow what you mean about the missing / thing
did you use the form to add it?
it'll get the syntax right
open the edit help thingy 		[20:22]
Robert__even less dice [20:25]
jonnybhmm - odd
looks like there isn't a height param :( 		[20:25]
Robert__{DIV(type="div",width="100%",align="left",float="none",clear="none",height="200px")}{SHEET(id=8)}{SHEET}{DIV}
I just saw that 		[20:26]
jonnybshould have one i tihnk [20:26]
Robert__I don't know about div, because you can't really control content like that, the only reason you should have it is if you could make it scrollable.
Where should I look for the parser? 		[20:27]
jonnyblibs/wikiplugins [20:27]
Robert__smarty?
ok 		[20:27]
jonnyblib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_div.php
would be a good one to add as your first one :) 		[20:28]
Robert__yea [20:29]
jonnybcan you do it in branches/5.x? [20:29]
Robert__I'd rather start in trunk first, is that ok? [20:29]
jonnybi think we're still merging that with trunk [20:29]
Robert__(my website is in trunk) [20:29]
jonnybok, we can backport it when it works [20:30]
Robert__Whatever you think. [20:30]
jonnybseems very strange it doesn't have it, imho [20:30]
Robert__does order matter?
{SHEET(id=>x, simple=>n)} 		[20:31]
jonnybit's the order the params appear in the editor form
oh, not in usage 		[20:31]
Robert__lool
got it 		[20:32]
chealerur, is it new that sourceforge viewvc stops displaying logs at branch point? for example http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/proposals/4.x/tiki-index.php?view=log shows a single revision [20:32]
jonnybhi chealer - no, i think svn's always done that [20:34]
Robert__Jonny, should there be a default spreadsheet height? [20:35]
jonnybi think it should work it out itself, from the number of rows [20:35]
Robert__You sure?
The reason I say that is because the more rows you have, the father it gets from the formula editor at the top.
and the bars that identify the spreadsheet cell location. 		[20:35]
chealerjonnyb: meh, I'll live with it then. thanks [20:36]
Robert__What if we did that if they set the parameter height to true.
and if use a css value override. 		[20:37]
jonnybhow do you mean "true"? i would say if height is empty() use the sheet height
(probably what you meant) 		[20:38]
Robert__yea
better 		[20:39]
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CIA-64tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27820 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 27798 to 27817 (except for tiki-register.php - too many conflicts) [20:48]
Robert__Jonny
I see that you are setting the sheet by class.
If you simply use the id, multi instance should work fine.
on the jquery.sheet side anyway 		[20:50]
jonnybok, will look at it soon (in a day or 3) [20:52]
Robert__lol [20:53]
chealerjonnyb: another example, userslib.php in trunk stops at [SVN] Create trunk from branches/1.10. branches/1.10 is now in feature-freeze. Every contributors should now commit in trunk/.
I suppose that means viewvc is not showing anything pre-svn (before r13490) 		[20:54]
jonnybmaybe those branches weren't created right [20:55]
chealerthat's trunk [20:55]
jonnybwhen did we switch from cvs to svn? 2ish i think [20:55]
chealerI'm sure I've seen history going back to the beginning on svn
seems to be around that commit, Jul 10 07:49:40 2008 		[20:55]
jonnybcould be - never looked that far back [20:56]
chealerand I'm getting python exceptions if I try following links that point to earlier revisions
surely something broke 		[20:57]
jonnybprobably why some aren't keen on changing again (to git or Hg, etc) [20:58]
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paviHi I recently upgraded from 1.9.x to 5.0
It was al right . but now I cant seem to change the theme
when I click on apply setting . Nothing happpens but a page refresh
does it happen because of logo picture ?
luciash: sylvieg wikiman any ideas ? 		[21:05]
Robert__Jonny, what do you use for code searching in eclipe?
eclipse 		[21:13]
jonnybRobert__: just the usual file search (ctrl+h)
pavi: try flushing caches (again?)
pavi: sounds wrong - no known issues with themes afaik
i have to go an eat now - back later 		[21:14]
chealermigration to svn in March 2008, that's the earliest I can see: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/1.10/lib/userslib.php?view=log [21:26]
hum, I can actually see the cvs era history, on http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/tiki/lib/userslib.php?view=log&pathrev=12160
but that took quite a bit of clicking 		[21:33]
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pavijonnyb: tried, it worked :) thank you . http://pavithran.org/devel/wiki/tiki-index.php [21:50]
GergelyHi, Something to report: dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php does not show much in the comments tab. E.g. no comments can be added. It worked one or two days ago.
oh sorry, I was not logged in 		[21:52]
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CIA-64tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r27821 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sheet.php: Added height parameter to wikiplugin_sheet.php [22:13]
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CIA-64tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r27822 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-view-sheets.tpl tiki-view_sheets.php): Added heights to sheets if edited from a page, for a smoother user interface [22:45]
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riperohi [22:49]
Robert__Ok guys, I just got done adding heights to spreadsheets in tikiwiki for jQuery.sheet, let me know what you think - http://visop-dev.ourwiki.net/Spreadsheet+Playground [22:52]
riperoany idea of when the 5.1 version will be released? [22:52]
sylviegsylvieg advices to be svn sync with the latest released branch - usually there is no risk - releasing takes a lot of energy [22:56]
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riperothanks for the advice :) [23:07]
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devlabmtlHi everybody
I switched an old tiki3 theme made by marclaporte. and now I cannot revert to a Tiki5 theme. Any hint on the _GET request I should do. please... ;) 		[23:15]
marclaportehttp://themes.tikiwiki.org/Template+Tricks#I_am_stuck_in_a_theme [23:17]
devlabmtlmtx_init: did you ever ran ./setup.sh ?
any hints? I switched an old tiki3 theme made by marclaporte. and now I cannot revert to a Tiki5 theme. Any hint on the _GET request I should do. please... ;)
hey marclaporte ;) 		[23:23]
marclaportedevlabmtl: see above link [23:25]
devlabmtljust realized that :)
dah. tiki-switch_theme.php?theme=fivealive.css dont work.
I tried americana2007 stuck since then. 		[23:25]
marclaportedevlabmtl : you could change in the DB [23:31]
devlabmtlyeah. I am trying at the moment.
thing is I find it weird to say theme=fivealive.css instead of theme=fivealive
and I am trying using the database directly in tiki_theme*
mysql> select * from tiki_theme_control_objects;
Empty set (0.00 sec)
mysql> select * from tiki_theme_control_categs;
+---------+--------------------+
| categId | theme |
+---------+--------------------+
| 43 | americana2009.css |
| 44 | americana2011.css/ |
+---------+--------------------+
2 rows in set (0.00 sec)
mysql> select * from tiki_theme_control_sections;
Empty set (0.00 sec)
all empty
none that mention americana2007
off hell yeah ;) sorry I forgot that I cannot paste stuff 		[23:31]
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