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Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3477 - - Tiki 5.0 install with import of 4.2 database - invalid database generated - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3477	[03:25]
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ak	hi guys I am not sure if this is a right place to ask but, here we go. Is there any way to restrict new account creation only to users from certain domains ? like, can I set tiki so that only users having emails from gmail.com can register ? can't find how to get by this from documentation	[03:51]
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jcyrisse	i need to convert a large Image gallery to the file gallery. I have the galleries saved under a directory on my hosted server...not in database. is there a way to convert these files to the file gallery format?	[04:02]
ak	I have asked a question five minutes ago - nothing yet, so I guess you will have to wait as well	[04:03]
jcyrisse	or how exactly do i accomplish this? i have probably 800 images sure....i will check the logs to see if anyone is able to give some direction. i dont have all of the original files which were uploaded, as many were uploaded contributions.	[04:03]
ak	perhaps, you will have to wait forever, as all these people on the right are latent for 5+ minutes :) as for the images, I've no idea	[04:06]
jcyrisse	lol....well, like i said...i will check the log later. good luck on your issue...night all	[04:07]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: restrict user registration to specific domains - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37741	[04:08]
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chibaguy	ak: I don't know of any way to restrict new accounts like that. If you've looked at the admin page for user registrations, you know what the options are. Unless you activate "needs admin approval" or however it's worded, then you can ok manually.	[04:33]
ak	thanks chibaguy :) you can do so if you look into lib/registration/registrationlib.php you can add some stuff there so it does that	[04:35]
chibaguy	ok. I haven't looked into it that deeply. btw, this isn't a very active time in this channel. In 6 or 8 hours there are more active people.	[04:36]
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mhat	can anyone help me with an installation error?	[07:35]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r27891 10/trunk/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Adding rss feed for shoutbox and fixing some copy/paste errors in tiki-admin-include-rss.tpl (not every feed is a file gallery)	[07:38]
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j0n3	good morning! When tiki sends me an email notificacion "An object was added in category" it doen't send info about which page was added: not a link, neither a page name... nothing! is there any way you know to show, at least, the pagename or a link?	[08:16]
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TorstenFabricius	hello there does anybody has some experience in setting up 'intertiki'? still not getting there have two well running 3.5 Tikis one should be the master and one the slave cannot login over the slave (client)	[10:49]
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TorstenFabricius	got some help yesterday, but still not working wouldn´t I have to give the master (server) and the slave (client) a specific name? I can tell the master, what slave-name it should control by name and I can tell the slave, what master-name it should trigger but nowhere I see how to give the name to the Tiki master and slave themselves anybody an idea?	[10:52]
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jonnyb	polom	[11:41]
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RobertP	Hey jonnyb I saw that you fixed the multi spreadsheet in tiki, Nice!	[11:58]
jonnyb	hi RobertP - yes, thanks	[11:59]
RobertP	smooth if I might say.	[11:59]
jonnyb	i think you :)	[11:59]
RobertP	This week I wanted to do more with tiki, but family is visiting and I am going out of town tonight.	[11:59]
jonnyb	the plugin should now to multi-instance-multi-sheets now too (but on in-place editing, which might come next month) *but not in-place editing	[12:01]
RobertP	Got it. very impressive	[12:02]
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TorstenFabricius	Hi sylvieg bit time for a question? a good ghost told me, that perhabs you might have some ideas how to solve an intertiki setup problem?	[12:19]
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jonnyb	jonnyb is listening, as he's failed to get intertiki working at least three times	[12:35]
sylvieg	what is the problem	[12:36]
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TorstenFabricius	sylvieg: I try to connect server/master and slave/client master is set up and still working on its own but slave is not connecting getting an error message and can only login as admin - neither with included users (as it is switched to WebServerLogin) nor with users from the master next is, that I can tell the master what the slaves names is and I can tell the slave what the masters name is, but noway to tell 'em their own names I am just confused	[12:37]
sylvieg	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Intertiki is not enough?	[12:43]
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sylvieg	you give the name of the client in the tiki unique key	[12:45]
HideMe	For whatever reason my admin account isn't accepting the password, can it be changed in the DB with a copy/paste of another hash?	[12:46]
sylvieg	HideMe: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=3#q94 update users_users set hash=md5('adminadmin') where login='admin';	[12:48]
HideMe	Still giving me an invalid login for the account.... any ideas as to why?	[12:52]
sylvieg	did you execute the query in the db? no error? and the password adminadmin is not workig?	[12:53]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3478 - - 5.0: since upgrade from 3. ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3478	[12:55]
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HideMe	sylvieg, yes.. no error and yes, not working.	[12:55]
sylvieg	and it gives you 'Incorrect password'?	[12:56]
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sylvieg	perhaps you have 2 admin users: one admin and one Admin ... if you come from an old version	[12:57]
HideMe	sylvieg, "Invalid password" sylvieg, Nope, was a fresh install... only one UID with admin.	[12:57]
sylvieg	and did you change the first time teh password of admin?	[12:58]
HideMe	you mean admin/admin?	[12:59]
sylvieg	yes	[12:59]
HideMe	Yes	[12:59]
RobertP	jonnyb, when I go to run setup.sh I get some wierd Yoda talk, is that normal? It also created a few directories	[13:01]
jonnyb	like what, RobertP?	[13:01]
RobertP	lol	[13:01]
jonnyb	it's supposed to create dirs - probably more than you need (but they're free, right?)	[13:02]
RobertP	Quoted - "Ask dont If know now of questions script some this user will you your" Every time I run it, I get a good laugh.	[13:02]
sylvieg	HideMe: perhaps try the other method from the faq - but I never got problem with the update query...... are you sure you do the query in the right database?	[13:02]
jonnyb	blimey - Yoda indeed! (i don't remember that...)	[13:02]
HideMe	sylvieg, Yes, I've watched the password hash change.	[13:03]
RobertP	yea, I'm at a loss.	[13:03]
HideMe	though one thing I've noticed in the other md5 passwords all have $1$ in front.... unlike this recently changes pass for admin.	[13:03]
sylvieg	md5 is the old encoding method - because it is not secure but to fake a password it is the only one that is simple	[13:05]
RobertP	Just fyi jonnyb, I'm getting an elusive empty last row on the spreadsheet editor.	[13:10]
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sylvieg	HideMe: otherwise try the little php program that is in the faq	[13:11]
HideMe	sylvieg, bah... my own stupidity... found the issue. thanks for your time.	[13:14]
MacLeod	MacLeod is still trying to figure out how to set up Workspaces in Tiki5...	[13:26]
sylvieg	worksapce perspertive? workspace as the old one?	[13:29]
MacLeod	old one? ah, I see the workspace entry on doc.tw.o has been expanded.	[13:39]
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CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r27892 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [ENH] change default short date and time format (as discussed in devel list)	[13:55]
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toks	Is there a problem using trackers in Tiki 5. I tried to modify the registration form and it just does not work. Any suggestions would be appreciated.	[14:28]
ricks99	what's the issue? registration trakcers working in my tiki5 sites	[14:32]
toks	I followed the process given in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/User+tracker and I do not see any change in the registration form.	[14:38]
ricks99	did u complete a new registration? the custom tracker appears as the second page	[14:39]
toks	That must be it. Thanks!	[14:39]
	ricks99: What do I do if I want to modify the registration form? Can I create a custom template?	[14:44]
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Kimberlee	hello all.	[14:47]
jonnyb	hi Kimberlee	[14:54]
ricks99	@toks: u can modify the tiki-register.tpl template	[14:57]
Kimberlee	hiya jonnyb! Kudos to you for your super work in trunk. Thanks!	[15:00]
jonnyb	thanks Kimberlee - glad it's helping :)	[15:01]
Kimberlee	I owe you a nice dinner or something the next time I see you, it makes my job a lot easier.	[15:02]
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jonnyb	super - it's a deal! you coming to NY in October?	[15:16]
Kimberlee	I would like to, I am trying to get it worked out. you?	[15:17]
jonnyb	yes, i'm up for it - must book the flights while they're cheap(ish)	[15:18]
Kimberlee	I miss Lindon's cat. :-)	[15:18]
jonnyb	:D	[15:18]
MacLeod	Has anyone else gotten a permission error when trying to edit a file in a file gallery using WebDAV?	[15:26]
Kimberlee	MacLeod: Haven't played with WebDav, sorry I was thinking about an idea for our next meeting.	[15:27]
MacLeod	?	[15:40]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r27893 10/trunk/lib/rss/rsslib.php: [MOD] rsslib extends tikidb_bridge and not tikilib	[15:40]
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chealer	polom	[16:23]
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jonnyb	hi chealer	[16:25]
chealer	hi jonnyb rodrigo_sampaio: why is it better to extend tikidb_bridge rather than tikilib?	[16:26]
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Kimberlee	hi chealer. are you going to ny in oct?	[16:38]
chealer	hi Kimberlee. no ticket yet, but I'd like to. you? :-) now that your daughters are older :-)	[16:51]
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chealer	and how is the Florida user group going?	[16:55]
MacLeod_AWAY	FLO-RI-DA in da HOUSE! La Floride dans la maison!	[16:55]
chealer	oh oui! MacLeod_AWAY: are you in Florida?	[16:56]
MacLeod_AWAY	oui, Tampa	[16:58]
chealer	MacLeod_AWAY: aha. I suppose you know Ben Eason?	[16:58]
MacLeod_AWAY	I do now.	[16:58]
chealer	chealer bbl	[16:58]
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Kimberlee	chealer: sorry I was too late, we will talk later	[17:03]
chealer	no problem MacLeod_AWAY: so this user group is working, cool	[17:15]
MacLeod_AWAY	so far, so good. only a couple of members, but we don't know who else is out there yet.	[17:18]
CIA-64	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r27894 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Payment: Small fix to make memberpayment plugin work with cclite, and some typos corrected	[17:19]
TorstenFabricius	Hi Kimberlee, didn´t work out yet another thing ... anybody there who is somekind related to the editoral board or so ... I am just new to the documatation stuff and would ask to an advice to the PluginWantedPages I did make up	[17:21]
Kimberlee	the InterTiki? where are you at with it? Mine works fine... although I had several failed attempts	[17:23]
TorstenFabricius	mom Kimberlee 1st I did use the color red on some places and do not know if thats appropriate and 2nd the page is not keeping the width of the textarea -> you would have to scroll to the right, what I think would not be acceptable Kimberlee I did the same like you send me - even the same names and I tried to find some more documentation or explanations in the forum so I am still there where we have been, plus trying out your settings and beeing confused quite a bit mor, becaus in your inst it works :)	[17:24]
chealer	hehe, doc.tikiwiki.org doesn't seem to be the perfect wiki for WantedPages examples	[17:27]
TorstenFabricius	I am wondering, where I can tell the master what his name would be, as I tell the slave the masters name - and the other way round	[17:28]
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Kimberlee	as long as they match they authenticate so tha name doesn't matter	[17:28]
xavi	pmorenogarcia: hello! you finally came here! :-)	[17:29]
TorstenFabricius	chealer yes, the tables are quite long, but thats not a huge problem thanks to the anchor Plugin {Aname}, but the with - the scrolling to the right is not nice Kimberlee I do not understand	[17:29]
Kimberlee	for instance I named mine master1	[17:30]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: yes. note, "click" is spelled with a starting "c", and when the page says "click here to...", you'd expect that clicking on the word "here" would follow the link	[17:30]
TorstenFabricius	isn´t it, that the master (and the slave) should know at least their own names aswell, no matter what names?	[17:30]
xavi	pmorenogarcia seems to have found a bug in notificationemaillib , and we are wondering the best way to fix	[17:30]
Kimberlee	yes, but you set the names in both places so they match	[17:31]
chealer	I would think the lines above showing with the link color is sufficient	[17:31]
xavi	bug: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug3478	[17:31]
Kimberlee	the name just tells the cliet which setting it should use in case you have several	[17:31]
TorstenFabricius	chealer ok	[17:31]
xavi	watches from forum posts in tiki5.0 are not sent to the author, just to other watchers of that forum	[17:31]
TorstenFabricius	Kimberlee so it is not really the name I gave the server earlier, it is just a client internal label? chealer any more?	[17:33]
Kimberlee	I decided to double check, hold on...	[17:34]
TorstenFabricius	ok	[17:34]
chealer	xavi: I don't know much about watches, but if there's no option for that, I suppose there should be one to receive or not notifications of your own changes...	[17:35]
ricks99	there is an option to recieve/not watches when you are the editor	[17:35]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: I think "Will display this following table:" doesn't need to be in bold red	[17:36]
xavi	ricks99: that option is another thing (afaik), and only for wiki pages	[17:36]
ricks99	ah....	[17:36]
xavi	chealer: you are right, it should be optional in the best case, but we are facing a bug on the simpler case	[17:36]
ricks99	ricks99 sticks his head back under the sand	[17:36]
xavi	:-) xavi takes ricks99 head out of the sand	[17:36]
Kimberlee	TorstenFabricius: the Tiki Unique key on the slave should be the Key on the server	[17:37]
ricks99	:-)	[17:37]
TorstenFabricius	ah ok	[17:37]
Kimberlee	I named mine Test so the name doesn't matter	[17:37]
xavi	sand is not nice inside lungs.... :-) so, the issue is... letme copy code somewhere, and ask about possible fixes refering to specific lines of code	[17:37]
TorstenFabricius	Kimberlee at Server: name=Slave1 / key=test / path=127.0.0.1 / contact=TFabricius	[17:39]
xavi	chealer: see this http://pastebin.com/BvzECT1n	[17:41]
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xavi	it's from line 93 to 103 from lib/notifications/notificationemaillib.php in branch 5.x	[17:42]
TorstenFabricius	Kimberlee at the client, I cannot take the same name, as it must be the name of the server isn´t it?	[17:42]
xavi	hi rodrigo_sampaio	[17:42]
TorstenFabricius	I took the name "bund", because bund is part of the subdomain (means something like federal)	[17:42]
rodrigo_sampaio	hi xavi	[17:44]
xavi	chealer , sylvieg or jonnyb: would this change http://pastebin.com/diff.php?i=u6ankPKy fix the problem in http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug3478 ? (author not getting its own email messages in forum posts) if we remove the condition to check if the user is the author or not, all users subscribed to that forum post should get the message in their own language...	[17:44]
pmorenogarcia	hi xavi and everybody	[17:45]
jonnyb	hi xavi - deep in payments stuff now (still) - can it wait? (or can anyone else look?)	[17:45]
xavi	hi pmorenogarcia !	[17:45]
TorstenFabricius	Kim this way I have: key=test / bund as master / check import user prefs / uncheck groups / check Intertiki shared cookie / Intertiki Server bund / name=bund/ host=http://WWW.XXXXX / port=80 / path=/bund/remote.php	[17:46]
xavi	yes, jonnyb, sorry to disturb, forget that I wrote your nick	[17:46]
jonnyb	it's ok - i just managed to get my first user to user transaction working! :)	[17:47]
xavi	go jonnyb, go! (payment stuff... think in the nice and frozen beers that are waiting for you here in Barcelona in a few days...)	[17:47]
jonnyb	but now have WSoD :(	[17:47]
xavi	oups, WSoD are always scary	[17:47]
jonnyb	occupational hazard!	[17:47]
xavi	:-)	[17:48]
jonnyb	i'm looking at your code thing now anyway - looks ok	[17:48]
TorstenFabricius	chealer done	[17:48]
xavi	I'0m afraid that lph (svn blame pointed him) forgot to add the case when the user is the author of the post	[17:48]
jonnyb	but wouldn't it be a good idea to use the existing pref too? (like for wiki pages)	[17:48]
pmorenogarcia	maybe if we swap the lines 8 & 9 in http://pastebin.com/BvzECT1n solve the problem	[17:48]
xavi	so just removing the condition, should work for everybody, isn't it?	[17:49]
TorstenFabricius	Kimberlee any idea, where I am wrong?	[17:49]
jonnyb	xavi: can't you check the pref?	[17:50]
xavi	jonnyb: afaik, that pref is for self-wathing the page when you are the editor I mean, an editor becomes a watcher of the page that s/he edited	[17:50]
jonnyb	so it needs a new pref? (dull)	[17:51]
xavi	this case now with forums is different: the user posting a message in the forum doesn't get email of his post, even if he/she is watching the forum	[17:51]
jonnyb	some people would probably like it like that, no?	[17:51]
xavi	"needs a new pref": oh well, needs the bug fixed. and if anybody wants to code a new perf, setting, etc., that another thing	[17:51]
jonnyb	sorry - i'll go back to my payment stuff :)	[17:52]
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Kimberlee	TorstenFabricius: What is the values for the server? err... master	[17:57]
ricks99	@xavi: for ur watch bug, did u select the "Send me an e-mail when someone replies to my topic " option?	[17:59]
xavi	ricks99: it's not the reply what we are missing, is are own post we are supposed to receive it because we are watching the whole forum beforehand	[18:00]
chealer	welcome pmorenogarcia	[18:00]
ricks99	ah.... ok ... back to the sand...	[18:00]
xavi	:-) s/are/our	[18:00]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: there is a big problem with that page, the plugin is broken. the table syntax is not parsed TorstenFabricius: to avoid the long page and scrolling, the page could use collapsed sections. I'm not saying it would be better, but it is worth consideration	[18:00]
TorstenFabricius	ok, but what means "the plugin is broken. the table syntax is not parsed" ?	[18:03]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: do you see the vertical bars everywhere in the page? like the double one at the top of the table: \|\|	[18:04]
TorstenFabricius	Kimberlee I researched another possible fault (called the providers support): I should need a php.ini in at least the masters root I haven´t	[18:04]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: the plugin output is supposed to be a table with 2 columns	[18:04]
TorstenFabricius	so this would be the next step before arguing any further kk?	[18:04]
xavi	so pmorenogarcia, you are welcome to commit your patch to the code	[18:05]
TorstenFabricius	if thats the fault, I´ll mention it in the doc	[18:05]
xavi	which fixes http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug3478 as you reported on precarios.org	[18:05]
TorstenFabricius	TorstenFabricius heading off for some minutes to get some smokeable stuff	[18:05]
Kimberlee	thats great to update the docs with whatever you find.	[18:06]
xavi	pmorenogarcia: are you ready for the ceremony to get commit privileges on sourceforge? xavi looks for the ceremony hat somewhere ...	[18:06]
pmorenogarcia	ok! i'm ready	[18:06]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: I guess, but that may need admin rights to fix (if the table syntax is not right, I don't know) or coding if it's a parsing bug.	[18:07]
TorstenFabricius	As I need massive help by experienced users and developers, my contribution to the community will be documentation, translation and some community work	[18:07]
xavi	it's been so long since I dont wear that hat that I almost forgot the steps... pmorenogarcia: have you read and understand the 3 basic rules in Tiki community? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/3Rules	[18:07]
TorstenFabricius	so everything I get solved with or without help, I put straight into the documentation, if it´s missing there	[18:08]
chealer	xavi: did you identify which commit changed the behavior?	[18:09]
TorstenFabricius	chealer whom to tell? if you do not know, I´ll look in the community pages	[18:09]
xavi	chealer, yes, svn blame reported it	[18:09]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: well, do you have a TIki 5 install?	[18:09]
xavi	I can search for that again (it wa lph in dec 2009)	[18:09]
chealer	xavi: what was the commit number? OK	[18:09]
xavi	xavi requesting again that svn blame...	[18:10]
TorstenFabricius	chealer well, I work with some 3.5s and one 4.2	[18:10]
xavi	r22796	[18:10]
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Torsten\|afk	Torsten\|afk will brb	[18:10]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: OK. it would be nice if someone could test whether plugin wantedpages works on Tiki 5 by default and if not, verify if this is a regression.	[18:11]
pmorenogarcia	i'm reading the 3 rules	[18:11]
xavi	ok, fine	[18:12]
chealer	xavi: what part of that commit is problematic? which file? rodrigo_sampaio: why is it better to extend tikidb_bridge rather than tikilib?	[18:12]
xavi	chealer: see this: http://pastebin.com/diff.php?i=u6ankPKy	[18:12]
chealer	xavi: but where is that code?	[18:13]
xavi	from irc log: (19:42:08) xavi: it's from line 93 to 103 from lib/notifications/notificationemaillib.php in branch 5.x	[18:14]
chealer	xavi: but r22796 doesn't touch notificationemaillib	[18:15]
xavi	pmorenogarcia: ask any question if you have any doubt	[18:15]
pmorenogarcia	ok, I read and understand the 3 basic rules	[18:15]
xavi	chealer, then, it means that I don't understand the output form svn blame, I guess..... pmorenogarcia: ok, great. you know they are the 3 simple rules that we all follow in tiki community regarding code changes	[18:16]
chealer	xavi: my bad, I was looking at r22786 (also by lphuberdeau!)	[18:17]
xavi	and next question, and more important is: pmorenogarcia: what's your sourceforge.net username? pmorenogarcia: if you don't have an account in sf.net, no problem, you can make one at any time :-) the fact is that since we host tiki code in sourceforge svn repositories, you need a sf.net username to commit changes there :-)	[18:17]
chealer	pmorenogarcia: the change would fix the problem, though it's not very clean (it would be cleaner to just revert r22786)	[18:19]
pmorenogarcia	I have not an account in sf.net, but I will have one in some minutes	[18:20]
ricks99	ricks99 keenly watches the ceremony.... taking notes to update http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Getting+Committed as needed	[18:20]
xavi	ok, great, pmorenogarcia chealer: I disagree. that commit frmo lph added the option to receive notification messages in your own language, and not in the editor's languae xavi tidies up the hat for the picture taken by ricks99....	[18:20]
chealer	xavi: r22796 added the option to receive notification messages in your own language, and not in the editor's language?	[18:22]
xavi	or thatÂ¡'s what I understand from lph's code but you know, my php skills are very limited	[18:23]
chealer	xavi: I don't see that in this commit. xavi: and the commit message doesn't claim such a change	[18:23]
pmorenogarcia	xavi: my sf.net username is pmorenogarcia	[18:24]
xavi	pmorenogarcia: ok, great... chealer: see line 98 onwards (that if clause) chealer: what does this if clause do for you? xavi finally gets the ceremony hat again, shining for ricks picture for his twessentials site	[18:24]
chealer	98 onwards? in which revision?	[18:25]
ricks99	* click *	[18:25]
chealer	xavi: I don't read #3478 as a bug. both sending to the author and not doing it have advantages. it's surely a regression that a previous version offered a behavior and doesn't offer it anymore, but it's not necessarily a bug. reverting r22796 could also be bad for Tiki 5.0 users that don't wish to receive notifications.	[18:26]
xavi	chealer: that file notificationemaillib	[18:26]
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TorstenFabricius	TorstenFabricius is back	[18:26]
chealer	xavi: yes, but which revision of the file (the lines vary)?	[18:26]
TorstenFabricius	anybody there who works with mirc?	[18:27]
xavi	chealer: I'm currenly seing r27342 on my local (5x branch) xavi still getting lost in sf.net since they changed their interface months ago pmorenogarcia: and the last and more important step eveer in the ceremony: xavi plays some drums in the back side of the room	[18:27]
ricks99	that's a long drum solo, xavi...	[18:30]
xavi	:-) yes, I know :-)	[18:30]
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xavi	"The user you have attempted to add to this project is not active. Only active users can be added. Please wait until this user is active to add them to your project" pmorenogarcia: you need to validate some email, I guess... xavi leave the drum in the ground, and breaths a bit after the long (and unsuccessful) solo... argh, pmorenogarcia told me off channel that he had to leave and he'll bbl oh well...	[18:30]
ricks99	nice try anyway i think i had the ceremony documented properly on "essentials"	[18:33]
xavi	yes, you do	[18:34]
ricks99	:-)	[18:34]
xavi	ricks99: FYI; I had 5 page reloads (flickering) when viewing for instance: http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Contributors using Firefox 3.6.6 on gnu/linux, in case it matters	[18:38]
ricks99	yeah, i still see some intermitent flickering on some pages, some times. i think i need to svn-up again	[18:39]
TorstenFabricius	er ricks99 - you r the man behind twessentials, isn´t it? at least one of those :)	[18:41]
ricks99	yup. Tik Essentials and Tiki for Smarties. That's me	[18:41]
TorstenFabricius	ah both I have had a look at essentials today	[18:43]
xavi	mmm, I have to leave in 10 min...	[18:43]
TorstenFabricius	great supplement to the general documentation	[18:44]
xavi	if tehre is any other admin by the time when pmorenogarcia comes back... he will get his commit privileges.... and the welcome message :-)	[18:44]
ricks99	glad u find them both useful	[18:44]
xavi	xavi always liked a lot the welcome messages and last steps from mose's ceremonies	[18:45]
TorstenFabricius	relly essential stuff I would say as a noob or half noob - took about not much more than 1/2 hr and i was inspired and enlighted toward a couple of problems I have now or will soon to deal with	[18:45]
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ricks99	excellent. that's my goal	[18:46]
TorstenFabricius	err with smarties I´d say that only partwise ... essential is different than the doc, written from a different perspective and more written to the end, so describing the problem and the hole solution -> what and how smarties seems more to be an alternative documentation, not a supplement a bit easier to understand, even more the problem with too less people to write and way too less germans	[18:47]
chealer	xavi: OK, I see the if you're talking about.	[18:48]
ricks99	Smarites was originally envisioned to be an end-to-end tutorial/walkthru. It does a good job of directing u to create a working tiki (if ido say so myslef). Essentials, you're right, is different. sort of "everything you needed to know about tiki but didn't know who to ask"	[18:49]
TorstenFabricius	smarties is good definitely - it´s just for my perspective, that I need more the detailed stuff from the 1000 page doc and that essentials is kind of a killer application somehow ricks99 exactly	[18:50]
chealer	xavi: by all likelihood, that if avoids sending notifications to change authors	[18:50]
TorstenFabricius	thats my feeling going into essential	[18:51]
xavi	chealer: yes, that's what I understood	[18:51]
ricks99	i'm not really much of a coder, so i contribute how/where i can	[18:51]
xavi	there is an "else" missing, at list, for authors ok, pmorenogarcia seems to be back,...	[18:51]
chealer	xavi: well, there could be one. for me, a watch is something to...watch other people's actions. naturally, you don't really watch yourself.	[18:54]
xavi	and I?m still here... chealer, unless you want to follow forum threads on your email program that's a regression	[18:54]
ricks99	ricks99 longest drum solo in history....	[18:54]
xavi	xavi gets the drums and hat again to finjish the ceremony	[18:55]
chealer	xavi: I agree, but well, the regression was already released.	[18:55]
pmorenogarcia	hi again!	[18:55]
xavi	xavi hears the sound of the drums agian....	[18:55]
pmorenogarcia	I'm ready	[18:55]
xavi	ok, so ... as we were saying... the last and more important last step is.... xavi reads: "User 'pmorenogarcia' was added successfully." Welcome to Tikiwiki commiters, pmorenogarcia!!1	[18:55]
ricks99	clap clap clap	[18:56]
pmorenogarcia	thank you!	[18:56]
xavi	ceremony trumpets sound... welcome!	[18:56]
ricks99	ricks99 hopes that pmorenogarcia will join tiki on the ther networks, too http://tikiwiki.org/Networks	[18:57]
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xavi	ok, it's my time to rush away....	[18:57]
ricks99	adios xavi	[18:57]
xavi	otherwise I'll be in trouble with my wife :-) cheers	[18:57]
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TorstenFabricius	Question: anybody there who has any experience with a php.ini needed for a certain tikiwiki function - seems to be needed for intertiki	[20:09]
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chealer	TorstenFabricius: I don't quite understand your question	[20:11]
TorstenFabricius	chealer ok, more specific ... my providers support told me, that I would need a php.ini, if I would like to start a php-script that is not included in general settings -> intertiki uses the remote.php as I have some pronblems to get intertiki runnig with the same setting that work at kimberlees server, I think the problem could be with the php.ini and I did not find it in the tikimasters root so perhabs I have to make one ... but with what code in the file?	[20:12]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: I get what you mean.	[20:18]
TorstenFabricius	chealer cool I look up again, if I do find an existing php.ini in the root or if it´s definitely missing re - there is none ... support said, different than .htaccess, a php.ini has to be in every folder where it should do something as it is not inheriting	[20:18]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: that's the question, what specific PHP features Intertiki would need. TorstenFabricius: I never used it. I could guess php-xml-rpc, but I see nothing about that in documentation. TorstenFabricius: it would be very strange that you need php.ini files in Tiki folders like .htaccess	[20:21]
TorstenFabricius	chealer intertiki would need the remote.php -> the problem would be (I guess) to tell the server to parse to that remote.php or s.th. l alike	[20:23]
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TorstenFabricius	it seems to be - IF that might be the problem - a similar problem like the halfmanual installation of my tikis on 1und1.de could be just a simple codesnippet but this time not in the inheriting .htaccess, but in a php.ini as far as I could get out from some php-documentation there might be a php-.htaccess function from the last php subversion	[20:24]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: yes...you'd need to configure stuff for Intertiki, but doesn't mean you have to modify PHP configuration.	[20:27]
TorstenFabricius	anyway for the moment a php.ini might be the best way to get it working for the average user (and myself) - thinking towards the documentation aswell	[20:27]
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TorstenFabricius	chealer generally you should be right ... but again: I got the settings that work well at kimberlees account; I have both tikis on the same machine - only two different subdomains of the same domain; checked the localhost at my provider -> same 127.0.0.1; but my provider mentioned, that if I would like to use a specific php script, that I cannot access, the problem could be in the general settings on the server and to be solved with a php.ini, if that would be the problem	[20:30]
Kimberlee	chealer: I gave screen shots of my working settings	[20:33]
TorstenFabricius	It is just so: many things of my project I will try to solve with workspaces, once I understood them and assumed it will be possible to set them up with an acceptable weorkflow withe the function I need	[20:34]
Kimberlee	TorstenFabricius:I am certain chealer remembers helping me with my Intertiki environment too TorstenFabricius: Agreed. I think many ppl are looking forward to understanding workspaces	[20:34]
TorstenFabricius	but anyhow I need Intertiki and contextual menus - while I am sure, that I can solve the menu problems with people of my internet workgroup, I am stuck with intertiki intertiki - meens crosssite-authentication is one of the probably two last issues I have to solve to be able to get the main page productive and to release it for some projects tikiwiki has proved sucessful, but still not for the main page Kimberlee I just didn´t have a chance to go into that deeper caused by two events last weeks, by the main page problem and a family-law case right this week so once that is done, I will go for workspaces	[20:36]
Trebly	Good night from Paris. Marc Laporte has asked me to commit my proposals of changes in code and languages files in ticket 3453. But I am not yet allowed and really integrated into the team to do this. On point 9 of essentials to commit I can read : "Come on the IRC channel, and ask one of the admins (see: WhoWhat for list) about the ceremony for joining the community and getting SVN commit... ...access.". As I have installed full Toirtoise ans SVN, it's time.	[20:40]
chealer	Kimberlee: hum, my memory is pretty vague actually :-) Kimberlee: do you understand why TorstenFabricius is talking about PHP configuration?	[20:41]
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TorstenFabricius	I could paste the error message if you want chealer	[20:44]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: that can't hurt	[20:45]
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TorstenFabricius	chealer: XMLRPC Error: 5 - Didn't receive 200 OK from remote server. (HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found)	[20:45]
chealer	TorstenFabricius: that doesn't sound like a PHP configuration issue	[20:46]
TorstenFabricius	chealer: thats why I think, that perhabs there might be no access to the remote.php hmm	[20:46]
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chealer	TorstenFabricius: you can try manually accessing remote.php for example, if I go to http://localhost/tiki/5.x/remote.php with Iceweasel I get faultCode403faultStringServer is not configured	[20:47]
TorstenFabricius	I just think IF there would not be access to the remote.php, it could be solved with php.ini another possible solution I would try first	[20:47]
chealer	(which must be normal since you're not supposed to access remote.php with a web broswer) I have to go now anyway	[20:48]
TorstenFabricius	errr chealer what you are talking about right know? ok thx anyway chealer	[20:48]
Kimberlee	chealer: sorry, I think he is speaking about it beacuse he has the InterTiki Admin settings configured as I do and it's not working	[20:48]
TorstenFabricius	Kimberlee yes indeed	[20:49]
Kimberlee	although I am not certain is not some other tiki setting? it could be that too, I am sure that provider support offers no help	[20:50]
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TorstenFabricius	perhabs that from the xmlrpc page?: "Note: there is a known bug in PHP version 5.2.2 that prevents the php-xmlrpc server from working. If you are experiencing this problem please upgrade your php install or use library version 2.2.1 or later. " I´ll call my provider and ask for the PHP version :)	[20:57]
chealer	I doubt that's your PHP version and the problem you have	[21:01]
Kimberlee	TorstenFabricius: Did you see the update(s) to the InterTiki page on doc.tw? its much better than when I used it and I saw it was updated today.	[21:03]
TorstenFabricius	Kimberlee 1.) we have php 5.2.13, so not this bug obviously 2.) I will look into the intertiki update now - thx	[21:07]
Kimberlee	I don't know if it will be of any help and I didn't check the history to see how much was done and when it just looked very thorough	[21:10]
TorstenFabricius	thx this field I am NOT finding in the server config area: "Set the name of your target server as defined in the server name field of the master." Kimberlee	[21:11]
	Kimberlee I do not see much difference between old version and update even not in side by side comparing strange	[21:20]
	So I tried same with a master (tiki4) on a different server/proviser - same error message I might habe stille some settings wrong, but do not get what I tend to leave it for now - have to do some preparations for tomorrow	[21:34]
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Trebly	Hello, good night from center of France, thereis a storm here ans I have been disconnect more than an our. Marc has proposed to me to commit my work in 3453 tracker item. But , as I have said one or two hour ago I have not till know the permission to do so the nine'th point of commit say : Come on the IRC channel, and ask one of the admins (see: WhoWhat for list) about the ceremony for... ...joining the community and getting SVN commit access. It's time because I am ready.	[22:59]
sylvieg	Trebly - 2 choices - you like 'panache' wait for an admin with 'panache' - you want to be in - I can put you in - I am very bad with 'fuex d'artifice' some admins can do very motivating introduction	[23:02]
	bbl	[23:13]
Trebly	Sylvieg : I don't know what is the meaning of "panache". I do believe in what we name "compagnonage". This has to connotation of the introducing way into a group with an analogy with "Les compagnons du tour de France" which is till now the best way to become the "best artisan de France". For the motivation I have a lot thought about, and the purposes of the product as been my job and... ...developments in collaborative work, co-engineerings and so on, during twenty years..., and I know what I can do or not and what time I have to spend for the project and provide to the project.	[23:23]
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Gergely	message to ak: use admin home / login / Username pattern	[23:25]
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Trebly	Syvieg : I don't need nor please with "feux d'artifice". I just need to get the whole of that is not wriiteen and sometime never daid which make the efficiency of a team. My main job as consultant was project management and teams motivation and share knowledege about the whole project aims. How to coordinate innovation, how everybody, each one at is place can, make the group to reach is... ...objectives. So now you decide.	[23:37]
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toks	I have created a tracker to collect more information during registration. The form shows up but none of the fields are modifiable. I cannot identify what permission flag I have missed. Please help!	[23:58]

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