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[00:41] <ChefTim> hi. Can someone point me to where I can change the redirect information for the domain/stats/ page with seo urls enabled? My host is overriding that url for their stats page
[00:56] <marclaporte> .htaccess file?
[01:04] <ChefTim> Ok. Just beginning to learn how tikiwiki works. Want to make sure I don't break upgradeability in some way.
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[01:15] <hrsms> Upgrading to 5.0, I have some permission issues.  I've already set the top-level folders to 777.  I didn't go to deeper levels because I don't have shell access, and so I have to do it manually with CPanel.  I get this error when running tiki-install.php...
[01:15] <hrsms> Warning: fopen(db/local.php) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/hrsms/public_html/home/installer/tiki-installer.php on line 70
[01:15] <hrsms> I can't tell from this what doesn't have the correct permissions
[01:15] <hrsms> Is there debug output I can turn on?
[01:16] <hrsms> The file is db/local.php, I can see that.  the folder db has 777 set
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[01:33] <hrsms> In http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Installation I found these instructions:  chmod -R 777 ./db ./dump ./img/wiki ./img/wiki_up ./img/trackers ./modules/cache ./temp ./temp/cache ./templates_c ./templates ./styles ./whelp.    The list of directories I need to change is not so long as I feared.  However, they are all set to 777 already, and I still get this error.  How to get more info?
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[03:17] <OTR> could someone point me towards a good site to down load tikiwiki for ubuntu 10.4 (I'll run it on localhost for now)  thanx
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[03:26] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: header redirect "/tiki-index.php" - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37918
[03:57] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Survey as module - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37920
[04:07] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Survey as module or survey listed on every page - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37920
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[09:19] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28210 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Bugfix in page contribution + xhtml compliance (honouring block tags) in wikiplugin_author
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[09:38] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3506 - - Show Quick Url not working in IE8 (8.7600.16385) - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3506
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[10:55] <dn> hey im trying to get rid of all the options when creating  a new gallery so people only have to enter a name and descrition, anyone know how to do this ?
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[10:57] <dn> ??
[10:57] <Tikiwiki|bot> ??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick]
[10:57] <dn> !help
[10:57] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
[10:58] <dn> hey im trying to get rid of all the options when creating  a new gallery so people only have to enter a name and descrition, anyone know how to do this ?
[11:01] <sylvieg> comment in the tpl {* *} the options you do not want to see
[11:15] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r28212 10/trunk/lib/profilelib/installlib.php: [ENH] menu handler: allow the use of the module_arguments parameter for the position=none user module creation case - but keep the format simple by not using the $key= element
[11:19] <dn> i dont know which options or where im looking :S
[11:20] <dn> i know which options
[11:20] <dn> but dont know where to find them
[11:20] <dn> i activated edit templates
[11:20] <dn> and it take me to tiki_list_file_galleries.tpl
[11:20] <dn> but i cant find the options
[11:21] <sylvieg> templates/tiki-upload_file.tpl ???
[11:22] <dn> is that for creating a new gallery?
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[11:23] <sylvieg> ah sorry
[11:24] <sylvieg> so you have the right tpl
[11:25] <dn> it says include edit_file_gallery.tpl
[11:25] <dn> but i cant find it
[11:25] <dn> found it
[11:25] <dn> going to see if the options are in here
[11:26] <dn> yay found it
[11:26] <dn> if i ** the other options
[11:26] <dn> will the form fail to work
[11:26] <dn> or will it just not take them into account
[11:26] <dn> as permissions have been set up for what i want to happen
[11:28] <dn> and do i just put * * before the line and at the end
[11:28] <sylvieg> {* and *}
[11:29] <dn> at either end?
[11:30] <dn> it made the page not work :S
[11:31] <sylvieg> perhaps teh easier is to {* <tr>....</tr>*} around each line you do not want
[11:31] <dn> ahh kk thx
[11:31] <dn> thanks alot
[11:31] <dn> got it working
[11:31] <dn> your a star
[11:31] <dn> :)
[11:31] <dn> cheers
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[11:36] <ricks99> hi all
[11:42] <marclaporte> hi ricks99
[11:43] <ricks99> hi marc
[11:45] <JoernOtt> lo everybody, just looking at the forum/commentslib stuff. I am wondering why there ist new $commentslib=new Comments in the commentslib file (this is how it is in many others) but is done in tiki-forums.php
[11:45] <JoernOtt> is there a special reason or just another authors different coding style?
[11:47] <sylvieg> historical reason = no reason
[11:47] <JoernOtt> ok
[11:48] <ricks99> @marclaporte: no takers for 5.1, eh?
[11:48] <JoernOtt> btw, I just found some starnge thing in trunk when using smtp instead of sendmail for sending out mails
[11:49] <JoernOtt> my exim refuses the connect with an illegal EHLO syntax
[11:49] <JoernOtt> I did not yet test it with 5.x so far, but this could be a minor blocker
[11:50] <JoernOtt> I have to test it with postfix as well and find out a bit more before opening a bug report and getting into it but I will do so on the weekend
[11:51] <sylvieg> which mail - because some use the zend lib and some the old htmlmime lib
[11:52] <JoernOtt> from admin send testmail
[11:52] <JoernOtt> as I said, I will investigate on the weekend
[11:52] <sylvieg> .. I think this one is the old lib
[11:52] <JoernOtt> ok
[11:52] <JoernOtt> it is used by webmail then as well, isn't it?
[11:52] <sylvieg> yes
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[12:52] <marclaporte> JoernOtt : SMTP work was started but never finished because we didn't plan/think it would be so much work to deploy everywhere
[12:52] <RavenC> polom
[12:52] <marclaporte> that's the reason for the partial implementation
[12:53] <sylvieg> marclaporte: do not confuse SMTP with zend lib
[12:53] <sylvieg> SMTP works (with bug perhaps) with both lib
[12:55] <JoernOtt> well, I am investigating it, maybe it is a 30-min fix :-)
[12:56] * sylvieg still does not understand why the zend introduction needed a new API...
[12:56] <JoernOtt> SMTP is quite straightforward
[12:57] <marclaporte> oups, yes, I replacing old lib by Zend
[12:57] <marclaporte> oups, yes, I meant replacing old lib by Zend
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[13:05] <OTR> can someone point me to a good sep-by-step guide to downloading tikiwiki 5.x for ubuntu 10.4  thanx
[13:06] <OTR> i have a fresh install of ubuntu w/o anything other than the updates
[13:11] <marclaporte> OTR: I would suggest to run apt-get for a random php app (like PhpMyAdmin) to make sure all the php-mysql stuff is working
[13:11] <OTR> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Ubuntu+Install?bl=y  found it at that link thanx!
[13:12] <OTR> should have looked deeper to begin with :)
[13:12] <marclaporte> And after: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Installation
[13:12] <OTR> thanx a lot!  probably remember me as ibrrorg --- long time no chat.  i've been OTR
[13:13] <marclaporte> hehe
[13:13] <marclaporte> yes, we spoke on the phone...
[13:13] <marclaporte> You may be interested in http://www.openstreetmap.org/
[13:13] <OTR> yes sir ... won't tie you up, i'm off to install and looking forward to 5.x ... i'm porting to local host for now
[13:14] <marclaporte> 5.0 has a few issues
[13:14] <marclaporte> so I suggest 4.3 or 5.1
[13:14] <OTR> major?  ah, ok i'll do 5.1
[13:14] <marclaporte> Daily build of pre-5.1 is good: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Daily+Build
[13:15] <OTR> i'll read up thoroughly...my best to luciash when ya'll chat
[13:15] <marclaporte> :-)
[13:18] <OTR> quick ? can i simply supplant in the wget statement .../tikiwiki-3.1.tar.gz with /tikiwiki-5.1.tar.gz ?
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[13:42] <RavenC> Marc, is the daily build zip a complete package?  Can it be copied on top of a 5.0 ?
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[13:53] <sylvieg> do we have an easy way to do help button with a jg popup?
[13:54] <ricks99> @RavenC: daily bulids are complete
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[13:59] <RavenC> Ricks, thanks
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[14:41] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28213 10/trunk/ (10 files in 8 dirs): [FIX]articles: better implementation 27943: a global param giving the image width in list mode does not work as image can be landscape or portrait. So need to be defined for each article
[14:44] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28214 10/trunk/lib/validatorslib.php: [MOD] Add missing copyright and svn $Id tag
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[15:44] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28216 10/trunk/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.tpl: [FIX] Trackerfilter plugin: Inputs for exactvalues for export form (missed from previous commit)
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[16:31] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28217 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] Adding support for internal message and forum post to the promote page feature
[16:36] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28218 10/trunk/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.tpl: [FIX] Trackerfilter plugin: Disable export button after use. Currently you need to reload the page to re-use.
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[16:58] <happydesign2> hi all
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[17:31] <Aalandriel> is it true that tw 5.0 install differs from the Xref trunk? My version of tw5 still uses feedcreator but the Xref only has that listed for tw4.0
[17:38] <chealer> polom
[17:39] <jonnyb> hi chealer 
[17:40] <chealer> hi jonnyb
[17:41] <chealer> Aalandriel: I don't understand the question well but the xref for trunk should not correspond to Tiki 5.0
[17:42] <chealer> jonnyb: I didn't see the error you asked about, but it reminds me of a similar installer error if you supply wrong DB credentials (Tiki 5 regression)
[17:42] <chealer> jonnyb: so I would wonder if your DB credentials are [still] valid
[17:43] <jonnyb> they seemed to be afterwards, just not getting through to that function i guess
[17:43] <Aalandriel> chealer: ah I just figured when I accessed the x-ref from the tiki5.0 link on the http://de.tikiwiki.org site it would show the reference for tw 5 
[17:44] <chealer> Aalandriel: I don't speak German, but which tiki5.0 link?
[17:45] <chealer> jonnyb: OK, no idea then. the function always worked well for me up to now
[17:45] <Aalandriel> Under Das Wichtigste in the left menu. You have a list of links related to tiki 5.x(stable) And underneath that for tiki4.x 
[17:46] <Aalandriel> The xref for 5.0 is linking to trunk instead of branch i guess.
[17:46] <chealer> Aalandriel: yes but Tiki 5.x is not the same as 5.0
[17:46] <chealer> hum, that would be strand
[17:47] <Aalandriel> *slams head into a wall*
[17:47] <chealer> s/strand/strange/
[17:47] <chealer> oh, but yeah, that seems to be the case :-(
[17:48] <chealer> Aalandriel: it would be nice to tell the admin (ohertel) about your finding
[17:49] <Aalandriel> I'll see what I can do. And hope he speaks english better than I do german ;)
[17:49] <chealer> he most likely does
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[18:02] <happydesign2> hi all
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[18:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Where is column width set for long text answers in Surveys? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=14&comments_parentId=37923
[18:19] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r28220 10/trunk/installer/schema/ (20100721_todo_notif_tiki.sql 20100721_todonotif_tiki.sql): [FIX] rename 20100721_todo_notif_tiki.sql to 20100721_todonotif_tiki.sql to force execution after 20100721_todo_tiki.sql (hackish)
[18:38] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28221 10/trunk/tiki-blog_post.php: avoid warning
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[19:09] <ibrrorg> spoke with mlaporte today about getting tiki for ubuntu.  i am in hopes of getting 5.1 (most stable for 5 he said).  can i simply supplant in the wget tikiwiki-5.1.tar.gz for  tikiwiki-3.1.tar.gz?  thanx
[19:10] <ibrrorg> i have a fresh install of ubuntu 10.4 and am walking thru the steps listed at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Ubuntu+Install?bl=y#Ubuntu_Install right now
[19:11] <ibrrorg> should also note that i am wanting to contain it for localhost only --- won't pub to the web for a period of time :)
[19:11] <chealer> hi ibrrorg. surely not, 5.1 is not released yet.
[19:12] <ibrrorg> i had said i was interested in 5 and he said go 5.1 as probs w/5
[19:12] <ibrrorg> i supose this was around 1000EST today maybe the conversation is in the logs?
[19:13] <ibrrorg> if 5 is good the so be it...hadn't been around since 4.0 and want to work w/the maps deal :)
[19:13] <chealer> ibrrorg: it's in the logs, but 5.1 doesn't exist yet. you may want the latest 5.x, but I don't know how easy that is to get.
[19:14] <ibrrorg> ah....ok ill hang out and maybe someone will have some pointers :)
[19:14] <chealer> (if you know Subversion, it's easy, otherwise, probably a little more complicated)
[19:15] <ibrrorg> nope, just converted to ubuntu (LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and am following the info on the link i posted from ya'lls site
[19:16] <chealer> there's information on Subversion here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=SVNTips if you're willing to take that route
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[19:16] <ibrrorg> s'pose i could learn Subverion?!  what the heck, pile the plate high 'eh?  i have a book on cgi, pearl, linux and ah you came thru!  be back in a bit after reading!
[19:18] <ibrrorg> so why couldn't i just suplant  {edited link}i.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/5.x where tikiwiki3.1.tar.gz would be?
[19:18] <chealer> ibrrorg: the latter is a file, the former a directory
[19:20] <ibrrorg> let me better show:  the install site says to put this:  wget http://softlayer.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/tikiwiki/tikiwiki-3.1.tar.gz  could i simply put wget svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/5.x
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[19:23] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28222 10/trunk/lib/validatorslib.php: [FIX] Validators: Fix for textarea type fields
[19:28] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28223 10/trunk/lib/ (validators/validator_distinct.php validatorslib.php): [NEW] Tracker field "distinct" validator. Checks if the input value already exists in that field (with any status) and returns an error if so.
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[20:09] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28224 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): 
[20:09] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: [ENH] show tags when previewing a blog post
[20:09] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: [ENH] adjust action icons position in blog post listing
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[20:47] <happydesign2> hi all
[20:48] <happydesign2> how can i embed pictures into the wiki articles?
[20:48] <sylvieg> doc.tikiwiki.org/pluginimg
[20:49] <happydesign2> thx
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[20:51] <ibrrorg> so i got 5.o unpacked and such into my ubuntu laptop, but i get a Tiki is unable to connect to the database is this salvageable or should i just wipe the whole thing and start from scratch.  i have terminal and such as well
[20:52] <sylvieg> did you create the database?
[20:52] <chealer> ibrrorg: wget svn co ... wouldn't work. wget is a command, svn is another one.
[20:52] <sylvieg> is your database accessible by command line or phpmyadmin?
[20:53] <ibrrorg> yeah i have command line
[20:53] <ibrrorg> i loaded the stuff via downloading the pack and then dragging it to the /var/www area
[20:54] <ibrrorg> all the files seemok when i tpe ls
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[20:56] <ibrrorg> i guess command line is the $ thing right?
[20:57] <sylvieg> but did you create a database?
[20:57] <ibrrorg> it prompted me for mysql5 database, gave it a password
[20:58] <ibrrorg> followed http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Ubuntu+Install?bl=y to the 'T'
[20:58] <ibrrorg> except for the sendmail trip, it gave a bunch of garbage couldn't find this and that
[20:59] <ibrrorg> is there an easy way of simply dumping new ubuntu (nothing on it now and i have usb) and then installing 5.0 as a pack easily?
[21:01] <ibrrorg> mysql -u root -p was what it said to run to create database
[21:02] <happydesign2> ibrrorg u must specificate
[21:02] <happydesign2> an address
[21:02] <sylvieg> and if you do mysql -u root -pxxxx your_database_name
[21:02] <sylvieg> with root and xx your_database_name as specify in your db/local.php
[21:02] <ibrrorg> im in the sql database now do you want m to type that?
[21:03] <sylvieg> if you are in the database perfect
[21:03] <ibrrorg> Your MySQL connection id is 69 Server version: 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.3 (Ubuntu)
[21:03] <sylvieg> so you have to check the file db/local.php contains the correct param
[21:04] <ibrrorg> how do i do that?
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[21:04] <ibrrorg> sudo nano b/local.php perhaps?
[21:05] <sylvieg> more db/local.php
[21:06] <ibrrorg> gives me ->  i pulled the file though in another window
[21:10] <ibrrorg> ah i thinkk i understand will post
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[21:22] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28225 10/branches/5.x/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX]module: specify it is perpespective ID
[21:23] <happydesign2> thx for aid
[21:23] <happydesign2> byeeee
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[21:27] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28226 10/branches/5.x/lib/smarty_tiki/block.modules_list.php: notice
[21:28] <ibrrorg> so, still error.  dbase is tikiwiki and added this stuff: GRANT ALL ON tikiwiki.* TO 'twiki'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'twikipassword';
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[21:35] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28227 10/branches/5.x/lib/tikilib.php: notice
[21:37] <ibrrorg> be back ltr
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[22:23] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28228 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: notice
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[22:36] <ibrrorg> so i scrubbed the HD and reinstalled ubuntu 10.4 and am starting over with my attempt to get tiki 5.x  i have a thing called synaptic package manager.  would this help me?
[22:38] <sylvieg> tiki is not a package so no
[22:38] <sylvieg> buit to add the packages tiki needs perhaps
[22:40] <sylvieg> if you have a system running with a php running with a mysql running - it is enought o have tiki running
[22:41] <sylvieg> tiki does not interfers so much with the system'
[22:41] <ibrrorg> all my laptop has i ubuntu 10.4 nothing else
[22:41] <sylvieg> ubuntu with php?
[22:42] <sylvieg> ubuntu with mysql?
[22:42] <ibrrorg> i just want to run tiki in the localhost so i can set things up --- i don't know.
[22:42] <sylvieg> ubuntu with php-mysql?
[22:42] <ibrrorg> i can install anything i want i know that
[22:43] <sylvieg> so follow the instructions in the ubuntu page to have the minimum packages
[22:43] <sylvieg> then test each required packages
[22:43] <ibrrorg> ur talking about tiki 3.1?
[22:43] <sylvieg> and then we can talk about tiki
[22:43] <ibrrorg> thats the only tutorial ive found
[22:43] <sylvieg> I am talking about any tiki
[22:45] * sylvieg thinks ibrrorg needs to try some non expensive hosting - where all the 'common' packages are installed
[22:45] <ibrrorg> i went here: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Ubuntu+Install  followed everything to the T and then a couple hours ago had to come here to ask why i had issues w/the dBase.  tried with both 3.1 and then manually dragging tiki-5.0 to the /var/www/... folder
[22:45] <ibrrorg> yeah ill look there
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[22:59] <fabricius> hello
[23:00] <fabricius> I would need an information
[23:00] <fabricius> what file is the file you "close" after the installatione?
[23:00] <fabricius> I mean it is the installer - but what is the actual name of the file?
[23:01] <sylvieg> db/lockI think
[23:01] <sylvieg> sorry db/lock
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