[00:02] <fabricius> thx sylvieg 
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[01:38] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Calender Import - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37924
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[09:44] <fabricius> .
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[10:19] <fabricius> hey there, I just tried to install 5.0 firsttime (at allinl.com) and did put in the db-settings -> now I cannot access the tiki/the tiki-installer and instead get an errormessage: System Error - Tiki is unable to connect to the database
[10:20] <fabricius> what can I do?
[10:20] <fabricius> Is there any documentation yet made up for manual installation of Tiki 5.0 ?
[10:21] <fabricius> Tiki 3 and 4 is no problem for me - there I have What I need
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[10:56] <rotterdam> hello
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[11:10] <fabricius> rehi - sry disconnected - anybody an idea about tiki5 installation?
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[11:13] <Kimberlee> hello all
[11:14] <rotterdam> hello
[11:17] <Kimberlee> fabricius: did u look at your local.php and see if the db settings are as expected?
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[11:27] <rotterdam> someone could tell me if this site http://br.tikiwiki.org and channel # tikiwiki-br is an official group?
[11:51] <Kimberlee> rotterdam: I would assume so because it is linked in the footer of the tw.o sites under the International column and I know there is an active group of tiki users in Brazil.
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[11:53] <rotterdam> channel #tikiwiki-br
[12:00] <Kimberlee> well, maybe not irc active  :-)
[12:01] <Kimberlee> there was plans for a TikiFest there this summer, but I don't know what happened
[12:03] <rotterdam> I can not find relevant information about the Brazilian community
[12:03] <rotterdam> seems abandoned
[12:04] <Kimberlee> I would go to the tikifest page and see who was planning the brazil tikifest if you want to make contact
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[12:06] <chibaguy> polom
[12:08] <Kimberlee> polom chibaguy
[12:08] <chibaguy> rotterdam: There were some Brazil people active a while back, maybe students, I'm not sure. But I haven't seen much activity for a while.
[12:08] <chibaguy> Hi Kimberlee.
[12:08] <chibaguy> Some of the old links are probably kept on in the spirit of optimism. ;-)
[12:10] <chibaguy> Kimberlee, I'm sorry I didn't get back to you about the site design; would it still be useful?
[12:10] <rotterdam> ok
[12:12] <chibaguy> rotterdam: if you want to get something going on the br.tikiwiki.org site, that would be great.
[12:13] <rotterdam> chibaguy, yes! :P
[12:13] <Kimberlee> chibaguy: no worries.  actually it forced me make some custom tiki themes which ended up being a good thing.  :-)
[12:14] <chibaguy> ah, ok; that's good.
[12:15] <Kimberlee> yes, and your new stuff for 5.x+ is super!  thank you.
[12:15] <chibaguy> well, one piece at a time.
[12:15] <chibaguy> :-)
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[12:16] <chibaguy> I just wish there was more time to do things. (same as everybody, probably)
[12:16] <chibaguy> rotterdam, I don't know who's in charge of br.tikiwiki.org.
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[12:16] <Kimberlee> indeed. gets worse as you get older it seems.
[12:17] <Kimberlee> I have made several now, and wondered about sharing back?
[12:18] <chibaguy> rotterdam, on http://tikiwiki.org/WhoWhat I see some Brazilian names, etc. Maybe you could contact them about this. Also, marclaporte would be good to ask, if you see him here.
[12:19] <chibaguy> Kimberlee, yes, that'd be good, if you want to.
[12:21] <chibaguy> I could submit the files to svn mods and put the link on themes.tw.o, for you, if you like.
[12:21] <Kimberlee> yes.  That would be great.
[12:22] <Kimberlee> I have some tweaking to do to make them more general.
[12:22] <chibaguy> what Tiki version? and how do you feel about maintaining them for new releases?
[12:22] <Kimberlee> 5.1 fine
[12:22] <Kimberlee> no worries, I will be doing it anyways for clients.
[12:22] <chibaguy> ok, that's good.
[12:23] <chibaguy> (or you could have svn access to commit them yourself, if you want to do that)
[12:23] <chibaguy> or do you already?
[12:25] <Kimberlee> no, I don't.  I should but I'm in no rush, so you can do it for me if you want.
[12:25] <rotterdam> chibaguy, ok, thanks
[12:25] <Kimberlee> I'll just email u the files later and when u get to it that would be great, thanks.
[12:25] <chibaguy> Kimberlee: ok, that sounds good.
[12:26] <chibaguy> rotterdam: no problem. I hope that site can get going again.
[12:30] <white> When validating different pages in trunk, I always get the following error Line 189, Column 18: there is no attribute "role", this applies to <div role="main" id="role_main">/nick JoernOtt
[12:30] <chibaguy> if br.tikiwiki.org does become active, the site's tiki version and the theme need a major update.
[12:30] <white> I added a comment on dev to the html compliance
[12:31] <white> because even though it is not xhtml, we should add the role stuff
[12:31] <chibaguy> yeah, that came from when the support.mozilla.com changes were 'upstreamed' to the main tiki code.
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[12:32] <chibaguy> JoernOtt: I guess the mozilla people don't mind that not validating.
[12:32] <JoernOtt> me neither as it is useful for certain applications and I assume it will become standard
[12:32] <JoernOtt> maybe in html 5, maybe in 6
[12:33] <chibaguy> that's right.
[12:33] <JoernOtt> but when we point people to validators and say that we want xhtml compliant code, this should be pointed out as exception
[12:34] <chibaguy> yep. also now there some mozilla border radius properties that don't validate CSS2.1.
[12:35] <chibaguy> (in some themes)
[12:45] <Kimberlee> chibaguy: in nearly all of my sites, I use a js slideshow in lieu of flash since flash is blocked by apple.  It really makes them nice.  I wish I could find a way to do that in a theme, I could include the css - but thats it.  I think it would be nice for new users to realize they can have that functionality with just changing some images.  any ideas?
[12:47] <chibaguy> Kimberlee, do you use the js that's already in tiki, or do you use another script?
[12:47] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28229 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-quick_edit.tpl: [FIX] Honouring the size parameter again and adjusting the select/paste size via style
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[12:49] <xitec75> greetings
[12:49] <xitec75> Does anyone know how to display Environment-Variables in Tikiwiki? 
[12:50] <Kimberlee> just a jquery slideshow, I have to put in my jquery code.
[12:51] <Kimberlee> since it is in look and feel I don't need the jquery plugin
[12:51] <Kimberlee> is that what u mean?
[12:51] <chibaguy> Yes.
[12:52] <Kimberlee> there isn't a way to force that in a theme, right?
[12:52] <chibaguy> no
[12:52] <Kimberlee> bummer
[12:52] <Kimberlee> didn't think so
[12:52] <chibaguy> you can provide the css that it needs, but the js has to be done separately.
[12:52] <Kimberlee> right, just provide instructions
[12:53] <Kimberlee> with the correct jquery code
[12:53] <Kimberlee> and where to put it
[12:53] <xitec75>  I need to display PHP Variables -((((( _SERVER["HTTP_HOST"] and others for SSL Certificates.... does anyone know how to display PHP environment variables? -(((((((
[12:53] <chibaguy> yes. I think we need some good docs on adding slideshows, etc.
[12:53] <Kimberlee> I'd be happy to do that
[12:53] <Kimberlee> I agree, it makes the different in "looking like a tiki site"
[12:54] <chibaguy> yes, and more people are wanting to do that but don't know how, I'm sure.
[12:54] <Kimberlee> I didn't even know there was a jquery plugin for quite a while
[12:54] <chibaguy> xitec75: sorry, I don't know. Maybe someone will see your question and answer later.
[12:55] <xitec75> ok, thanks. Tiki really rockz
[12:56] <chibaguy> xitec75: thanks. If you don't get an answer here, try posting to the tikiwiki-devel mailing list.
[12:56] <Kimberlee> xitec75: i don't know either, sorry
[12:57] <xitec75> maybe if i find some time i would develop a plugin for my problem if there is no default solution
[12:58] <xitec75> one way to give something back
[12:58] <chibaguy> that'd be great
[12:59] <chibaguy> Kimberlee: I like this one: http://dev.herr-schuessler.de/jquery/popeye/
[12:59] <chibaguy> (not a slideshow exactly, but a good enhancement of inline image display)
[13:00] <chibaguy> http://dev.herr-schuessler.de/jquery/popeye/demo.html
[13:01] <chibaguy> I think it'd be nice to have a rel="popeye" parameter for the IMG plugin. ;-)
[13:01] <Kimberlee> I like that one too.  I also like http://www.queness.com/resources/html/slideshow2/index.html bc its simple and it has easy captions.
[13:01] <Kimberlee> I agree about the popeye param!
[13:02] <Kimberlee> I am doing a site for a photographer and it would have been nice to have.
[13:02] <chibaguy> The queness slideshow is quite similar to infinite carousel, which is now in Tiki.
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[13:03] <Kimberlee> aww, haven't used in tiki (good to know, like I said I didn't know jquery plugin existed.)  :-o
[13:03] * chibaguy wonders what happened to http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Infinite%20carousel
[13:03] <chibaguy> Anyway, you can see on http://themes.tikiwiki.org/
[13:03] <Kimberlee> kk, thanks!
[13:04] <Kimberlee> brb, coffee
[13:04] <chibaguy> ok, see ya
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[13:09] <chibaguy> Rrr, action log is either pretty unintuitive or else broken.
[13:14] <chibaguy> fwiw, the page is http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Infinite_carousel
[13:20] <chibaguy> I like how the Tiki version info is in tabs on that page. Apparently the problem with this is printing. I haven't tried to print a page with tabs so am not sure of the output.
[13:21] <chibaguy> But this page should be part of a more general howto about using jquery scripts with Tiki.
[13:22] <chibaguy> I put the info on themes.tw.o because that's were I installed the script, but probably it should (also) be at doc.tw.o.
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[13:35] <JoernOtt> damn, too late
[13:35] <JoernOtt> he could have used {SMARTY(name=eval var="{$smarty.server.SERVER_NAME}") /}
[13:35] <Kimberlee> I think having them in both would be good.  I didn't see that page before, and wondered the first time I saw themes, how u did it.  :-)
[13:41] <Kimberlee> yes indeed, thats so much easier.
[13:42] <Kimberlee> I can't believe I didn't know about that, thanks.
[13:43] <chibaguy> Sure, it's getting easier, also thanks to Jonny and others who know more about this stuff.
[13:45] * chibaguy 's expertise in js is mostly cut, adapt, paste, pray. ;-)
[13:46] <Kimberlee> lol!  I am also greatly in aw of Jonny's jquery abilities.
[13:46] <Kimberlee> its been an invaluable addition
[13:47] <Kimberlee> there are so many niche's of tiki.
[13:48] <chibaguy> yeah, I forgot about some of them sometimes (like, recently dynamic content blocks).
[13:49] <chibaguy> (as a solution that's already built in)
[13:50] <Kimberlee> yes, and I am poor at using tools (like documentation) so I often find it there after I needed it.
[13:50] <Kimberlee> never been one to rtf*m
[13:51] <chibaguy> well, at least read the quickstart guide. ;-)
[13:51] <Kimberlee> hehe, its never to late to teach an old dog...
[13:51] <chibaguy> (we need more quickstart guides)
[13:52] <Kimberlee> I think a design tips page somewhere would be good
[13:52] <chibaguy> yeah, I've always thought that. ;-)
[13:52] <Kimberlee> where you can put the Inifitite Carousel, jquery examples.. etc
[13:52] <Kimberlee> :)
[13:52] <chibaguy> yes, and also layout tips if you want columns in pages, portal-type boxes, etc.
[13:52] <Kimberlee> its easy to find for poor surfers like me
[13:53] <Kimberlee> agreed.
[14:01] <chibaguy> I've hoped that mods.tikiwiki.org could become a live site and would be about taking the next steps after tiki is installed and the default stuff is working ok (with the idea that doc.tw.o is about how to install it and configure it). But there's resistance to splitting up info like this.
[14:02] <chibaguy> Unfortunately there's no "search all Tiki project sites" tool.
[14:03] <chibaguy> (except for google ;-) )
[14:04] <chibaguy> (which I generally use anyway)
[14:37] <Kimberlee> true.  I hadn't heard of a plan for mods.tw but its a great idea!
[14:37] <Kimberlee> a tool(site) to link the sites for mods
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[15:46] <j0> hi all. lame question, but can anyone recommend a tikiwiki hosting company runs tikiwiki 4 or 5?
[15:48] <Kimberlee> j0: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tiki+Friendly+Hosts
[15:51] <j0> Thanks, I've looked there but I've not yet found one that specifically refers to TikiWiki 4 & 5. The ones that do specify a version are usually TikiWiki 1.x
[16:03] <Kimberlee> I doubt they would have versions that old.  I think that Fantastico has 4.1 bundled
[16:03] <Kimberlee> r u in the US?
[16:05] <j0> no, but i don't really mind where the host is as long as their tikiwiki hosting is good and the wiki can be upgraded when new releases come out
[16:14] <rotterdam> tikiwiki system has forum?
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[16:27] <Kimberlee> rotterdam: do u mean tiki has forum as a feature?  yes.
[16:28] <chealer> polom
[16:28] <rotterdam> I'm seeing http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-forums.php
[16:29] <rotterdam> but the system board it is very simple
[16:30] <chealer> JoernOtt: thank you for r28229. there is another problem with Quick Edit from r28084. the description of the size parameter doesn't mention the description, but with that revision, size could influence the description field size.
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[17:14] <Kimberlee> chealer: polom
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[17:44] <chealer> hi Kimberlee
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[17:53] <Kimberlee> polom marclaporte
[17:55] <coaboa_> trying to install from trunk. but installer cycles infinitly through "Tiki Installer Security Precaution". php5 version is 5.3.2 on kubuntu 10.04
[17:55] <coaboa_> + hello all ;-)
[17:56] <marclaporte> hi Kimberlee!
[17:58] <chealer> coaboa_: FYI, PHP 5.3.2 is not supported. you can use either 5.3.1 or 5.2
[18:00] <coaboa_> oki thx
[18:10] <JoernOtt> chealer: It will also influence the other fields beacuse there I set the size in % of the container size (select does not have a size parameter and textarea cols cause a smaller width than setting the size), Converting the copy/paste to a text field kills all cr/lf in the pasted text
[18:12] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28230 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-quick_edit.php: [FIX] Update the description of the size parameter to reflect the actual behaviour
[18:22] <chealer> JoernOtt: OK. are you sure the options work? I get a simple text field for the 3 pararemeters with choices
[18:24] <JoernOtt> chealer: which 3 parameters do you mean?
[18:25] <JoernOtt> 1: is page name > text field , 2: description > text field, 3: category > select/dropdown 4: copy/paste: textarea
[18:26] <chealer> JoernOtt: copy/paste, for example
[18:26] <chealer> JoernOtt: it has options 0 and 1
[18:27] <chealer> I've seen options in plugins but not in modules
[18:29] <JoernOtt> sorry, now I don't understand you.
[18:29] <chealer> JoernOtt: are you looking at mod-func-quick_edit.php ?
[18:29] <JoernOtt> yes
[18:30] <chealer> JoernOtt: do you see the pastetext parameter definition?
[18:30] <JoernOtt> yes
[18:30] <chealer> JoernOtt: do you see the options key of the array?
[18:31] <JoernOtt> ok, now I understand what you mean, I thought you were not seeing them on the web page when assigning a module
[18:31] <chealer> JoernOtt: that is the case, I don't see the options. (I do see the parameters)
[18:34] <JoernOtt> I just browsed some other modules which don't have options, so I assume options only work with plugins, not with modules
[18:35] <chealer> JoernOtt: me too
[18:36] <JoernOtt> so the 'magic' behind rendering the option page here is something else than the 'magic' behind the plugins. I will remove them here to avoid further confusion
[18:38] <chealer> JoernOtt: yes. see the showlink parameter of random_images for an example of boolean parameter
[18:39] <JoernOtt> chealer: you mean I should switch from 0/1 to n/y
[18:39] <chealer> the values don't really matter, I just wanted to show an example, for example the description pattern
[18:40] <JoernOtt> k, sad thing is that there is no option magic preventing the user from writing something other than expected
[18:41] <JoernOtt> well, I check for ==1 or !=1 anyways
[18:41] <chealer> Indeed. the behavior is not specified then
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[20:00] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28231 10/branches/5.x/tiki-install.php: [MOD] Removing old badge which mismatches with new logo
[20:18] <coaboa_> Jeorn? noch da?
[20:23] <JoernOtt> you mean me?
[20:25] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28232 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): 
[20:25] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: [ENH] Adding some options to contributions by author
[20:25] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: [FIX] Removing non-working options array from quickedit module_info
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[20:56] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28233 10/trunk/tiki-page-contribution.php: [FIX] Show popups option was not working as expected
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[21:50] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28234 10/branches/5.x/templates/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [DOC] update doc links and reduce to a smaller number of gateway pages
[21:54] <rotterdam> how do I enable user registration in tikiwiki?
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[23:18] <FF|Skyrider> Hey guys
[23:18] <FF|Skyrider> I hope someone is alive :D
[23:18] <FF|Skyrider> Does tiki 5.0 has the ability to manually enter mail server information?
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[23:28] <rotterdam> how do I enable user registration in tikiwiki?
[23:28] <marclaporte> in login admin panel
[23:29] <FF|Skyrider> still like to hear my answer :D
[23:29] <rotterdam> I looked at every page of the admin panel
[23:30] <rlpowell> Oh, this is *awesome*.   I'm in HEAD as of early May, and the stuff that sets meta tags to stop robots from crawling really resource-heavy stuff?  Yeah.  It's completly broken. -_-
[23:30] <rlpowell> Updating to see if it's fixed.
[23:32] <rlpowell> Nope.
[23:32] <rlpowell> A whole giant feature somebody destroyed by overlaying something else.  *whimper*
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[23:40] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r28235 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Add ability to apply number formatting to numeric tracker fields
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[23:53] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03rlpowell * r28236 10/trunk/templates/ (header.tpl header_simple.tpl): Please respect the variable that dozens of php files set!!