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[04:36] * luciash is early (exceptional situation), cause spent night in tent in the garden w/ kid [04:36] ... you made me look at the time, thanks bro :) [04:36] ah, cool :) [04:37] sleep well :) [04:37] thanks - cu :) [04:40] *** fabricius|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [04:56] *** fabricius|away has joined #tikiwiki [05:19] *** fabricius|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [05:57] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [06:04] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [06:04] polomonday [06:14] *** batchman821 has joined #tikiwiki [06:18] *** batchman82 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [06:21] *** fabricius|away has joined #tikiwiki [06:29] *** fabricius|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [06:29] polom chibaguy [06:30] is there still time to put fixes and Czech translation update before Tiki 5.1 release ? [06:31] Hi luciash. Yes, I think so. I didn't see any specific release time yet. [06:34] I think maybe the release time is around http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestBigBlueButton (Aug. 15-18) [06:36] oki :) [06:42] *** batchman821 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [06:44] Speaking of bugs, I wonder if the odd browser title at tw.o is due to a bug (url appears on the tab, not wiki page name, etc.). [06:54] ithink it depends on page (if it has description) or section (if it is implemented) [06:54] there's set use page's description for title [06:55] hi all [06:57] *** batchman82 has joined #tikiwiki [06:57] hi coa [06:58] chibaguy: imho it should fallback to page title if description is empty [06:59] chibaguy: whould be better solution i think [06:59] yes, that makes sense. [07:00] hi coaboa [07:01] *** fabricius|away has joined #tikiwiki [07:03] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [07:04] hmm, what's going on with my local copy of tiki branch5 ? [07:04] * luciash gets "Tiki is unable to connect to the database" after svn up [07:05] does your db/local.php look ok? [07:06] bbl. got to catch the train home. :-) [07:06] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [07:07] ah, somehow, my mysql was stopped [07:07] :-p [07:11] *** Sug4r has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:12] *** Sug4r has joined #tikiwiki [07:14] Sug4r: what was that, my dear bot ? [07:14] Pardon? [07:14] :) [07:29] *** fabricius|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [07:37] tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r28248 10/trunk/templates/tiki-blog_post.tpl: MOD] allow blog post edit screen to use full screen width - particularly important for wysiwyg editor [07:59] tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r28249 10/trunk/templates/tiki-edit_article.tpl: MOD] allow new article header and body edit screens to use full screen width - particularly important for wysiwyg editor [07:59] *** fabricius|away has joined #tikiwiki [08:05] *** yonixxxxx has joined #tikiwiki [08:06] hi [08:12] *** olio has joined #tikiwiki [08:14] Hey. I want tiki-shoutbox to show only the message and not the User, Timedate, Message. I've tried to change the code in lib/shoutbox/shoutboxlib.php but i can't seem to find the right place where the output is generated [08:32] *** fabricius|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:46] olio: templates/tiki-shoutbox.tpl or templates/modules/mod-shoutbox.tpl iirc [08:54] ah ok, found it, thx. [09:38] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [09:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [10:14] *** rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki [10:17] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [10:23] *** sai_ has joined #tikiwiki [10:27] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [10:27] polom.1 [10:34] *** sai_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:37] * chibaguy ponders the possible meanings of polom.1.... [10:37] hi chibaguy [10:37] hi jonnyb [10:37] shall we do a release? (probably a bit late in the day for you) [10:38] oh, i was going to have a look at the colorbox bug you posted first... [10:38] seems odd that it changed [10:45] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [10:46] Hi all [10:47] polom [10:48] hi ricks99, sylvieg and all [10:48] should we try and release 5.1 today? [10:48] we can [10:48] go for it [10:49] *** Blue_ has joined #tikiwiki [10:49] I started a rel note for 5.1 [10:49] but need help [10:50] IE8 showing "error on page" even for http://info.tikiwiki.org. Is this universal or do I have a problem with my browser? [10:51] Blue_: do the other two sites have that error too? [10:51] no error in safari, probably in IE special [10:52] sylvieg & ricks99: i'll do a mail to the devels to say we'll start releasing... when? in a "few" hours? [10:52] @Blue_ can u clear the IE cache. My IE 8 reports no errors [10:52] maybe i should have a look at 5.x in IE [10:52] jonnyb: Firefox does not show any error. What other two sites are you referring to? [10:53] doc.tiwiki.org for instance [10:53] jonnyb: ok for me [10:53] (spelt properly of course) [10:53] ok, will do a mail, then read "how to release" :) [10:53] @Blue_: confirm that you are *NOT* running IE in "compatability mode" [10:54] @jonnyb: sounds good. pls include in email to 1. review the rl notes and 2. review the news release too [10:54] * ricks99 sees no errors for info.tw.o in IE 7 either [10:54] http://doc.tikiwiki.org has the same error in IE8. IE is not in compatability mode. [10:55] ricks99: if you have the urls handy do you want to do the mail? [10:55] Blue_: what language are you "in" [10:55] jonnyb: english [10:56] hmm (sometimes translations can break javascript strings) [10:56] @Blue_: what is ur exact IE8 version. I have 8.0.6001 and see no errors reproted [10:57] ricks99: IE version 8.0.7600.16385 [10:59] hm.... [10:59] * ricks99 tries to force an ie update.. [11:05] *** RobertP has joined #tikiwiki [11:06] jonnyb, is there yet a movement in 5.x to bring the new jQuery.s5 plugin to users? [11:06] or is it still in trunk? [11:06] no, not in 5 [11:06] that'll be for 6 (unless you want to add it later for 5.2) [11:07] Are there plans to make it external? [11:07] but please don't do it now [11:07] we need to release 5.1 [11:07] :) [11:07] I won't, [11:07] I was away last week, and am getting ready for a new week [11:07] just trying to catchup [11:10] how do I add links on the top menu? [11:11] How do you like what I did with s5 jonnyb? Anything you see needs to change right off? [11:12] @rotterdam: add a link to the specific menuID. see docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Menu_Customizing_Menus [11:12] RobertP: i looked at the example you sent while in barcelona - not had time to look again now in trunk, sorry [11:13] np [11:13] ricks99, thanks [11:13] ricks99, Page not found [11:13] Is luciash around? He was asking about the release time for 5.1 because he wants to commit czech lang changes and I think some bug fix(es). [11:14] d'oh. ... /Menu#Customizing_Menus [11:14] ok chibaguy - i'm suggesting that we do it in 4(ish) hours time, should be enough (hopefully) [11:14] it'll be late for you though ;) [11:16] ricks99, :) [11:16] ok. yeah, a little late for me. [11:17] btw, I'm not getting any js errors in ie8 at info.tw.o. [11:17] although i do get them in ie fairly often. [11:18] might the info.tw.o thing be related to anonymous vs logged in? [11:19] maybe so. [11:21] i was viweing as anonymous in ie8 - no errors [11:21] Hey jonnyb, I don't have sufficient priviledges to setup feeds for jQuery.s5, can you create the feed for http://code.google.com/p/jquerys5/feeds? [11:21] ricks99, I just tried both ways, and no error. [11:21] when you have time, I know you are busy [11:22] @chibaguy: i confirm too. i saw no errors in ie 7 or 8 [11:22] RobertP: how come i'd have more privies than you there? you started that one didn't you? [11:22] I have seen errors fairly recently but of course now I don't and am not sure what site or what was activated, etc. [11:26] I went to go add it here:http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=JQS5 [11:26] I wanted to have an rss like jquery.sheet [11:27] I did not create that page [11:27] sorry - not seen that - ricks99 can you help? [11:30] *** fabricius|away has joined #tikiwiki [11:37] *** fabricius|away is now known as fabricius [11:38] *** goj has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [11:44] *** goj has joined #tikiwiki [11:50] New Forum Posts: Ver5.0 - image in files gallery not display in wiki page - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37935 [11:52] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [11:55] hey marc [11:55] marclaport [11:55] marclaporte [11:56] Just fyi, I was out of town last week, and am working on the cell id reference issue. [11:56] or feature rather [11:56] I will have it uploaded shortly. [12:00] *** marclaporte1 has joined #tikiwiki [12:00] :-) [12:00] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:03] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28250 10/branches/5.x/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] Installer: Check if database really exists before using it (thanks marclaporte) [12:05] *** Bernard- has joined #tikiwiki [12:08] *** yonixxxxx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [12:12] *** Kimberlee has joined #tikiwiki [12:13] hello all. [12:15] hi Kimberlee [12:17] *** marclaporte1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [12:22] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [12:24] marclaporte, problems? [12:25] jonnyb, do you see any feezable way to save column width with spreadsheets? [12:25] marc has it on my list to do next. [12:25] polom jonnyb [12:25] may i still commit ? [12:25] haven't investigated [12:26] ok [12:26] polom luciash [12:26] please do - fixes only though, right? ;) [12:26] yea [12:26] polom [12:26] i'm still trying to track down an installer bug [12:26] yea, I was thinking, it is more or less a style attribute. [12:27] hi marc [12:27] If we were to use style, we would then also support colors, etc. [12:27] hi luciash [12:27] seems my shared host's mqsql user hasn't got the perms to find out about the charset stuff [12:27] sorry RobertP - not doing spreadsheets today [12:27] I understand [12:28] sorry, hope to soon! :) [12:28] You are a viable master of the tiki, in and out of code all day long :) [12:29] aw shucks :P [12:33] *** RavenC has joined #tikiwiki [12:33] polom [12:36] polom too [12:42] *** FrankP has joined #tikiwiki [12:46] chealer: WebPI code is in branches/5.x for 5.1 release? [12:47] doesn't tiki5 have an rss feed for wiki page comments? i cant find it on admin_rss? [12:47] ricks99: I have never seen that [12:48] hm... [12:48] must be dreaming [12:48] * jonnyb worries that ricks99 dreams of rss feeds [12:49] lol [12:49] we have a comment admin page that lists all comments. [12:49] be happy that your dreams don't have rss feeds ;-) [12:49] lol [12:49] * ricks99 wonders how hard it would b for jonnyb to turn it into an rss feed [12:49] * ricks99 for 5.1 [12:49] :-) [12:49] tee hee! [12:50] * ricks99 goes to add RSS for COmments as a new feature in the rel notes. now jonnyb *has* to add it :-) [12:50] * jonnyb doesn't subscribe to this feed [12:55] tikiwiki: 03luciash * r28251 10/branches/5.x/tiki-imexport_languages.php: [12:55] tikiwiki: [FIX] import/export lang: fix PHP error and allow to re-import if the lang was [12:55] tikiwiki: already imported before, changed string Included to Imported and made it [12:55] tikiwiki: translantable; TODO: handle delete and currently used lang cannot be imported [12:57] sorry s/translantable/translatable/ [13:06] got a nasty 5.x installer bug on my shared hosting. it's a 4.1 tiki but the line in local.php said $dbversion_tiki='3.0' and so it's trying to use adobe but failing (for some reason) [13:10] *** Kimberlee has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [13:11] jonnyb: replace that dbversion ? [13:12] i think adding the api_tiki=pdo to local would fix it, but it would be better if it just worked... [13:13] and now i'm trying it again the version has been already updated to 5.0 (in local.php) [13:13] ik [13:15] *** Kimberlee has joined #tikiwiki [13:18] to use the plugin SPLIT into the "Custom End of Code" is a bad idea. :) [13:18] Bernard-: one must just close the code carefully [13:20] ... what do you mean ? [13:21] {SPLIT(joincols="n",colsize="5%|20%|5%|20%)} ---col1--- ---col2{SPLIT} look ok to me [13:22] aha - seems my server has php with '-disable-pdo' set :( [13:22] aye [13:22] Bernard-: colsize has unclosed quote [13:23] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [13:23] ...i'm getting really old... :( [13:23] :) [13:23] yes tks :) [13:24] But anyway... it broke the end code. [13:25] ... time to bring back old table ? [13:25] [13:25] Bernard-: probably must be enclosed inside {wiki}...{/wiki} too [13:26] as it is wiki plugin [13:26] nope tried it too: [13:26] {wiki}{SPLIT(joincols="n",colsize="5%|20%|5%|20%")} ---col1--- ---col2{SPLIT}{/wiki} [13:27] well yes, you can achieve the same with HTML table tag [13:27] can i see how it breaks ? [13:27] I wonder what would be special about SPLIT that would cause it to not work in the custom code. [13:28] Any properly formed syntax should work. [13:28] sure [13:29] here : http://shocksite.com/5x.html/ [13:29] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28252 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] Installer: Only offer to fix encoding if the database exists. [13:29] this is with the tag split [13:29] alternative in Smarty block is {wikiplugin _name="split" joincols="n" colsize="5%|20%|5%|20%")} ---col1--- ---col2{/wikiplugin} [13:29] ah ok this is interesting, i test [13:30] i don't see it there [13:30] better ! [13:30] yes the "wikiplugin" is working tks [13:31] Bernard-: yo yoni ! ;) [13:37] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [13:38] hi jonnyb, I saw your e-mail in the devel list about the 5.1 release. Let me know if I can help you. [13:38] hi rodrigo_sampaio - yes please, the more people we have to test the better [13:38] should be stuff to play with in a couple of hours [13:39] tikiwiki: 03luciash * r28253 10/branches/5.x/tiki-edit_languages.php: [FIX] edit languages: double entities in translations problem - it is not wanted to put htmlentities and strip tags - edit languages is alowed by trusted users anyway... caused just trouble [13:39] jonnyb: ok, I will be online for the next two hours and after I will be offline for six hours or so [13:39] jonnyb: but after that I will be back online [13:40] ok, no worries, if we're still doing it in 8 hours we will need help! :D [13:42] *** eromneg has joined #tikiwiki [13:42] *** goj has joined #tikiwiki [13:43] Bernard- : literal tags are also needed for SPLIT in the custom code text area, like {wiki}{literal}{SPLIT(joincols="n",colsize="5%|20%|5%|20%")} ---col1--- ---col2{SPLIT}{/literal}{/wiki} [13:44] Hi Chibaguy.... tks right now wikiplugin seams ok [13:45] jonnyb: ok :D [13:45] ok, just for future reference. should be true for all wikiplugins. [13:45] jonnyb: can i commit just lang/cs/language.php still ? [13:46] i'll try to keep that in mind... but lately i have quit some troubles there... ;) [13:46] jonnyb: or too late ? [13:46] luciash: sure [13:46] k [13:46] i'm still trying to work out this horrid installer thing [13:47] does someone need to do the get_strings() thing? (i've never done that, but don'\t you need to do that in order to have all the strings there?) [13:47] *** RavenC has quit IRC (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) [13:48] jonnyb: i guess someone enhanced the release script to handle the get_strings [13:48] jonnyb: hopefully [13:48] we shall see :) [13:50] tikiwiki: 03luciash * r28254 10/branches/5.x/lang/cs/language.php: [ENH] Czech language: some more translated [13:51] marclaporte: the web pi code is not, but it will not be in the main tree neither [13:52] *** amette has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:52] hmm, i'm now getting: A new version of Tikiwiki, 4.3, is available. You are currently running 5.0. Please visit http://tikiwiki.org/Download [13:54] bbl [13:54] *** RavenC has joined #tikiwiki [13:54] translation using the DB and interactive mode is now breeze :) [13:55] luciash: yay! [13:55] luciash: I think we'll get Dogfooders! [13:56] http://inuktitut.ourwiki.net/ [13:56] we need article encouraging translators to help update the translations [14:03] marclaporte, I'm having some trouble installing tiki on yahoo host, could I talk to you a couple minutes about it? [14:04] @luciash: a call for translations? [14:04] good idea [14:05] ricks99: yes, something like "We call all the translators" :) [14:06] ricks99: a pity we can't make it for 5.1 but for 5.2 we could have whole lot new translations because 5.x strings are pretty stabilized now [14:06] anyone with permission can add the user lucasemanoel to the tikiwiki project on sourceforge? he is a brazilian who is willing to help with translation [14:06] * ricks99 still thinks many/some of the "English" strings are poor [14:06] * ricks99 wishes we could externalize all strings [14:07] luciash: talking about translation, you know if there is any how to on how to translate tiki and contribute the translation back to the repository? [14:07] easiest would be a short video how-to [14:09] but basically you just need to enable "Use db for translations", import your lang and start translating directly via Tiki [14:09] http://dev.tikiwiki.org/i18n and http://doc.tikiwiki.org/i18n are good starts [14:10] then when done use export language, change the encoding to utf-8, save the file and send it as patch or copy/paste and commit directly [14:10] luciash: huh... this export language is new to me. sounds good [14:10] thanks for the links ricks99 [14:11] dont we have a tiki team for translation? [14:11] luciash, ricks99: any of you has permission to add developers to tiki on sourceforge? [14:12] tikiwiki: 03luciash * r28255 10/branches/5.x/styles/layout/design.css: [FIX] interactive translation should be on top above all when displayed [14:12] y (think so) [14:13] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28256 10/branches/5.x/lib/core/lib/TikiDb.php: [14:13] tikiwiki: [FIX] TikiDb: Add test for valid results to fetchAll(). [14:13] tikiwiki: Reveals errors in installer (e.g. 'Your MySQL version is too old to perform this operation') on some operations and should also help expose other mystery WSoD errors. [14:14] ricks99: can you try adding please the user lucasemanoel? [14:14] ricks99: he is a brazilian willing to help with translation [14:15] *** Bernard- has quit IRC (Quit: Bernard-) [14:15] * ricks99 looks for the ceremony hat... it is the first time he's had to wear it... [14:19] has 01lucasemanoel read/understand the 3 rules for tiki development? [14:19] * luciash thinks interactive translation form would look better inside the jQuery UI [14:19] ricks99: yes [14:20] sf name is: 01lucasemanoel right? [14:21] * ricks99 waves the magic wand... [14:22] * ricks99 ... and adds lucasemanoel [14:22] tikiwiki: 03luciash * r28257 10/branches/5.x/tiki-imexport_languages.php: [FIX] import/export lang: add the UTF-8 encoding to the header for the exported language [14:23] all set rodrigo_sampaio. may take a bit of time for perms to propogate through all sf servers [14:23] * ricks99 removes the ceremony hat [14:23] ricks99: thanks [14:23] a pity there's nobody to welcome and cheer ;) [14:23] rodrigo_sampaio: greetings to him [14:24] my first cerementy... i'm just hoping i didnt' break anything :) [14:24] ricks99: congrats [14:24] luciash: he is on #tikiwiki-br, I will ask him to join us here ;) [14:24] ricks99: who knows with your magic wand ... [14:25] little do you know... :) [14:25] Good morning! [14:25] luciash, ricks99: he is here rotterdam = luscasemanoel :) [14:26] ah :) [14:26] Olá rotterdam. welcome to tiki [14:27] * luciash welcomes rotterdam to the Tiki i18n community ! [14:27] *** amette has joined #tikiwiki [14:27] rodrigo_sampaio: btw, is it true YouTube is banned in Brazil ? [14:29] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [14:29] bbl [14:30] luciash: where did you heard that? I don't think so, but I can't be sure since I'm not in Brasil (I'm in Montreal) [14:30] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:30] luciash: a few years ago Youtube was forced to remove a video and I think this was it [14:31] i have read that on Mashable.com that now Russia banned it and joined other countries and Brasil was listed there too [14:31] *** rotterdam has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:32] luciash: no, probably they list brazil because the site was down for a few hours or days (I don't remember), but when they removed the video they were back [14:32] Anyone, I'm installing tikiwiki on a yahoo hosting environment, and they don't let you see logs. I've manually installed the database, and yet I get nothing when I try to navigate to tiki. Anyone have any ideas? [14:32] http://division7inc.com/new [14:33] RobertP: when you say nothing you mean "white page of doom"? [14:33] *** rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki [14:33] I get a blank page, even after configuring db/local.php [14:33] yup [14:33] white indeed [14:33] what version? [14:33] 5.0 [14:33] *** white is now known as JoernOtt [14:33] odd - it redirects to tiki-install.php but then dies :( [14:33] can you update to svn 5.x? [14:34] that last fix i did will hopefully make any db error show up [14:34] rotterdam: welcome to the project! [14:34] @RobertP: how much php memory? [14:34] How should I quickly upgrade? [14:34] Yahoo is lower [14:34] * chibaguy just back from bath [14:34] lower memory, [14:34] like 8 meg [14:35] that's not enough. See requirements docs [14:35] 32M is needed [14:36] at least 16M, even just to show a clean install [14:36] pls see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/requirements [14:36] from: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tiki+Friendly+Hosts ; SBC Hosting(external link) memory_limit set at 8M with a 12M max — presumably if you ask nicely as it is not possible to access php.ini ranebo Jun 14, 2005 [14:36] Should I ask them, pretty pretty please upgrade my memory? [14:37] try adding ur own php.ini [14:37] set memory for 32M [14:37] chibaguy, thanks [14:37] sometimes you can do it in the .htaccess (but i imaging yahoo don't allow that) [14:38] i don't think either ini or .htaccess are allowed, [14:38] chibaguy, you are who received more thanks to the channel here:) [14:38] Now that I know the issue I will try to get it resolved with support, THANKS! [14:39] :-) [14:43] chibaguy: what's going on with templates/styles/fivealive/tiki-searchindex.tpl? [14:43] i have a conflict in trunk [14:43] has it been deleted in trunk and not in 5.x? [14:45] jonnyb: I don't recall any difference in the two; they should be the same. [14:45] it seems to have gone from trunk [14:46] and sf.net seems to not have a "show deleted files" button any more ;( [14:47] isnt searchindex for the old/tiki search? [14:48] searchresults is for the mysql full-text search? [14:48] i think so, yes [14:48] but i can't see why it's in 5.x now [14:49] looks like marclaporte edited it in 5.x a couple of days ago, hence the merge conflict... [14:49] :D [14:50] i'm going to say it's not a conflict - ok to not be in trunk but still in 5.x (need to get on!) [14:51] fivealive/tiki-searchindex.tpl differs from the default in that it has the css dropdown. [14:52] that's not to say the file is being used, of course. [14:52] well it seems to have been deleted from trunk [14:52] someone just tidying up, i guess [14:52] the search works ok in trunk? [14:52] polom [14:52] I mean display-wise? [14:52] sorry, focussing on 5.1 [14:52] polom chealer [14:53] anyway, fivealive/tiki-searchresults.tpl also has the cssmenu dropdown, so apparently that's the one being used. [14:53] (maybe I modified them both originally) [14:53] indexed search was deleted from trunk in January, but I believe it was restored soon after [14:54] hi jonnyb, chibaguy and all [14:54] hi chealer [14:55] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28258 10/trunk/ (20 files in 10 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 28187 to 28257 [14:55] ok, i'm going for some "lunch" - back in 20 for release fun! :) [15:03] yeah, indexed search was restored on January 21 [15:05] ricks99: searchresults is actually the oldest search, although in one way you could say indexed search is obsolete since non-MySQL DBs support was dropped. [15:06] time to sleep here. bbl. [15:06] good night chibaguy [15:06] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Quit: Find new themes for Tiki at http://themes.tikiwiki.org.) [15:07] jonnyb: I don't recall sf.net having a "show deleted files" button, unless you mean the CVS Attic. or unless you're talking about something really old. [15:08] ricks99: searchresults is indeed for the mysql full-text search [15:10] chealer: really? i thought there used to be one on browse svn... [15:10] is there a way to determine number of commits for 5.1 and number of commiters? [15:10] i think the release script does that, or some of it [15:11] getting towards that :) [15:12] back [15:12] reading the back log [15:12] polom all, btw :-) [15:12] hi xavi [15:13] jonnyb: if it has been there in the past year, I failed to notice something I really missed. even on the command line there's no easy way to see deleted files. I always consider this a big regression from CVS. [15:13] hi xavi [15:13] need those basic stats for the news release [15:13] hi jonnyb and chealer [15:13] New Forum Posts: Send email to a group when updated - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37936 [15:13] are we in release mode already? [15:13] alwasy impressive to shown high number of commits and contributors [15:13] sort of, xavi [15:14] ok [15:14] Question: Is this going to be 5.1 RC1? [15:14] afair, that was the proposal in bcn [15:14] i think it's probably safest, we don\t want all that encoding stuff again [15:15] or "RC" since we don't expect RC2 [15:15] 5.1 RC it is then [15:19] luciash: tks for work on import/export of language. How close/far are we for people to use Interactive translation and share back their enhancements with the community? [15:20] actually, i've changed my mind - let's do 5.1 RC 1 (otherwise i'm sure we would have to do 5.1 RC 2 :) ) [15:20] ok, well thought :-) [15:21] ok, i now declare branches/5.x "officially" closed (if that's ok with everyone?) [15:21] ok [15:21] anyway, "muphy" will commit something, you know... [15:22] indeed [15:22] * xavi playing with the new TikiLiveCD including Tiki6svn ;-) [15:23] i've done a mail to devels about no more commits in 5.x - could someone update http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Where+to+commit please? [15:23] so - here goes! :) [15:24] * xavi updates [15:29] page upated [15:30] thanks [15:30] 4.x left out of the page (we encourage 3.x lts or latest stable branch, which is 5.x...) [15:30] good good - yes, 4.x is closed [15:32] ok, here we go... [15:32] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28259 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Version to 5.1 [15:33] jonnyb: I would have no problem with a final 5.1 [15:33] i.e. I'm not too worried [15:33] 5.0 wasn't good enough - we should make sure this time (also it was generally agreed to do that in barcelona) [15:35] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28260 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Version to 5.1RC1 [15:35] also, this is my first release - already messed the version up! :) [15:35] jonnyb: I agree, but I think that's a lesson for Tiki 6. I want 5.0 to be replaced ASAP. [15:36] jonnyb: so you haven't figured out 5.0 telling you to upgrade 4.3? [15:36] jonnyb: so you haven't figured out 5.0 telling you to upgrade to 4.3? [15:36] yes, i needed to do ?forcecheck=y (or something) [15:37] so tiki-install.php should do forcecheck? [15:37] jonnyb: hum... that 5.0 site was upgraded from a pre-4.3 install? [15:37] was going to document it - or see why the installer doesn't make it happen [15:37] but agree that 5.1 needs to get out [15:38] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28261 10/branches/5.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 5.1RC1 [15:38] * marclaporte cheers for 5.1 [15:39] got an error in release.php while doing the lang files [15:39] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28262 10/branches/5.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 5.1RC1 [15:39] ignoring it for now (but have made a note) [15:40] jonnyb: did you change the release number because the script ask you ? or because you know? [15:40] it told me to [15:40] * sylvieg trying to fix the question in http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+release [15:40] ok thx [15:41] yes, it seems the $this->version needs to be the actual full version dusting (this time 5.1RC1 - no spaces) [15:41] and did it ask to change in _htaccess too? [15:41] and the same string needs to be in the tikiVersions() array [15:42] no, at least not yet [15:42] doing the stupid copyright file at the moment... [15:43] by the way, ricks99 - it looks like the revision range is 18261 to 23261 (according to this script) [15:43] yay, installer working on PHP 5.3.3 [15:44] handy! [15:45] ricks99: hmm, maybe not - now it's looking at 13260 to 18260 [15:46] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:46] yes, it seems to be going back to the dawn of time... [15:46] tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28263 10/trunk/ (31 files in 12 dirs): [ENH] Adding URL-Shortener functionality to socialnetworks and rename promote to share [15:47] * ricks99 is sure that jonnyb will figure it all out :-) [15:48] even just a guestimate is fine.500+ commits, 40+ contributors, etc [15:49] ricks99: have a look at r 28262 (the changes in changelog.txt) [15:51] do we still need to update http://tikiwiki.org/stable.version or is doen automatically now? [15:51] i'd guess it's a manual ftp thing (but don't know really) [15:52] 5 new committers apparently [15:52] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28264 10/branches/5.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 5.1RC1 [15:52] sylvieg: it's manual AFAIK [15:53] jonnyb: anyway, I don't get the 4.3 upgrade notice in my 5.0 test site. let me know if you have more info on the problem. [15:54] jolly good - think it was just some legacy stuff on my old tiki [15:54] changelog doesnt help me much :-( [15:54] we could/should add a "double check this" link to that message [15:54] surely cant be too hard to find : [15:54] 1. number of commits since last branch [15:55] 2. number of unique usernames? [15:55] indeed - it should be added to release.php i think [15:55] +1 [15:57] 142 commits [15:58] i made it 141 ;) [15:58] tx. how many contributors? [15:58] add ideas here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+release#Improve_the_release_process [15:59] there are still some php errors reported here - only STRICT and DEPRECATED ones though, ok? (i'm ignoring them) [16:00] jonnyb: in the release scripts? [16:00] ik, check smarty templates has blown up (on tiki-mods.tpl) [16:00] 15 contributors [16:00] sorry chealer? [16:01] jonnyb: the PHP errors come from the release scripts or what? [16:01] oh sorry - yes [16:04] it beats my expectations if there's nothing more than STRICT and DEPRECATED [16:04] me too :D [16:04] never ran them but I fugre it's OK [16:04] figure [16:04] yes, the smarty check i think is more of a problem [16:05] i seem to remember for 4.0 we just skipped that bit [16:05] so skipping... [16:05] I'm trying to download the trunk by a graphic account of svn and it is asking username and password [16:07] rotterdam: are you a s tiki developper? [16:08] re [16:08] if yes checkout with your sf name - if no you can only do an export [16:08] yay, that's some activity here now, go jonny go :) [16:09] on to the secede thing now... [16:09] secede i mean [16:09] ggeller lost some commits between 5.0 and 5.1! Name: George Geller  First Commit: 2003-12-07  Last Commit: 2005-11-30 -Number of Commits: 161 +Number of Commits: 159 [16:09] marclaporte: well, i would say the translations can start right away now with latest 5.x branch [16:09] sylvieg, I will help translate into Portuguese [16:10] ach - auto spell check!! [16:10] :) [16:10] hmm, supposedly building packages now (think it broke) [16:10] rotterdam: are you lucasemanoel? [16:11] marclaporte: at least it seems to work flawlessly now with Chrome [16:11] sylvieg, yes [16:11] ah welcome = so use your sourceforge username [16:11] lucasemanoelrotterdam.... [16:11] :-) [16:12] sylvieg, unfortunately sourceforge refused my nickname [16:12] rotterdam: brazil likez netherlands [16:12] hehehe [16:12] :) [16:13] luciash, rotterdam is my nickname because of the writer Erasmo [16:15] marclaporte, 2010-06 Marc Laporte Interview Espirito Livre Magazine [16:15] translate to Portuguese? [16:15] yes [16:16] on some page or on my computer? [16:17] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28265 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.1_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 5.1RC1 [16:20] jonny: been trying to follow the irc trail - but should the "check for updates" button be reporting 5.1 now? [16:20] *** redflo has left [16:20] eromneg: no I think utnitl tikiwiki.org/version is updated [16:21] also this is a "pre" release so far [16:21] and I did not have anymore access to this server - need Oliver [16:21] apparently it's building the packages here now! [16:22] I like the apparently ;-) [16:22] no jonnyb your computer is stuck ;-) [16:22] marclaporte, on some page or on my computer? [16:22] sylvie: thanks - but I've got a 4.0 site that is still just telling me to upgrade to 4.3 - should this at least report 5.0? [16:23] looks like it sylvieg [16:23] eromneg: not sure about the logic there ... [16:23] need to check the code [16:23] eromneg: i had one this morning saying it was 5.0 but i should upgrade to 4.3! [16:23] so something's wrong in there [16:24] yay! my shell returned... [16:24] it should report *both* - a major and minor update [16:24] and it's laid three lovely little tarballs! [16:25] but a 3.x site should report only 3.x (minor) and 5.x (major) since 4.x is deprecated [16:26] one of my 3.5 sites just says "A new stable major release branch is available." does give a number [16:26] does not give a number [16:27] imho, tiki should recommend 3.x -> 5.x -- NOT 3.x -> 4.x [16:27] something to look at for tiki6 [16:27] jonnyb: should the 5.0 file not be removed at the same time as the 5.1 secdb is added :-? [16:28] you'd think so [16:28] maybe not with a minor release [16:28] bbl [16:29] * jonnyb admits he's never really understood the secdb thing [16:30] tarballs are gradually uploading - brb [16:33] the secdb thing should help compare if files were not modified since installation time (by some cracker's scripts, etc.) iirc [16:33] indeed, i've just never got past that bit :) [16:33] so it is only useful for end users, right ? [16:34] ok, first one's there: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1.preRC1/tiki-5.1.preRC1.tar.bz2 [16:34] * luciash grabbing that one [16:34] i'll do the zip one locally, even though that seems like cheating! [16:35] haha [16:37] jonnyb, what is the procedure for a small fix after a release has been locked? [16:37] :) [16:38] like what? [16:38] s5, I need to update a small line of js. [16:38] for it to work correctly. [16:38] Where it is linked [16:38] i thought you were working in trunk, no? [16:38] ah yes [16:39] ok nevermind :) [16:39] phew! :) [16:39] * xavi saw murphy comming, but luckily murphy went away [16:39] ok, here's the gzip: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1.preRC1/tiki-5.1.preRC1.tar.gz [16:39] I get it [16:40] zip seems fine here but should be independently checked i guess - should be up soon [16:40] *** luciash has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:41] *** Sug4r has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [16:42] *** luciash has joined #tikiwiki [16:42] *** luciash has quit IRC (Changing host) [16:42] *** luciash has joined #tikiwiki [16:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o luciash [16:46] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [16:46] *** Sug4r has joined #tikiwiki [16:49] ok (finally) here is the zip: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1.preRC1/tiki-5.1.preRC1.zip [16:50] i'm going to proceed with the proper release now (i.e. without the 'pre' bit) - i'm assuming (warning!) that the tarballs all have tiki 5.1 inside them? [16:51] yell quick if you find otherwise please! [16:51] * ricks99 downloading the zip right now... [16:53] jonyb, the tar.gz has many more dirs inside [16:53] I wonder if this is intentionakl... [16:53] jonnyb ^ [16:53] oh? [16:54] ah, stinky - it's done them in mac compatibility "mode" [16:54] how dull... [16:54] i'll fix [16:57] ok, good, this gives me some more time to install a full lampp stack on ,y computer (reinstalled the 64 bit version of linux a few days ago, and forgot to install lampp) [16:58] * luciash extracting the bz2 [16:58] ok, re-uploading "cleaned" tarballs [17:00] luciash: you'll get a load of extra mac files in there, sorry - new ones on their way [17:00] oh, in the bz2 as well ? [17:00] didn't spotted [17:00] they all start with a . so might not show up [17:01] bz2 doesn't sem to have them [17:01] i see .htaccess but no mac files or folders there [17:02] my brand new 5.1rc1 install seems to b very smooth [17:02] jonnyb, the extra folders I see are not hidden, but full folders [17:02] i.e.: Zend, Service, lib, core [17:02] like what xavi? [17:02] like this file: UpdateConferenceTemplateParticipantResponse.php from this directori: [17:02] they should be in /lib [17:03] Zend/Service/DeveloperGarden/Response/ConferenceCall [17:03] * ricks99 wonders why he sees" Upgrading and running into encoding issues?" warning on a brand new install ?? [17:03] heheh [17:04] xavi: i don't understand [17:04] ricks99: I presume because there more cases when the user is upgrading instead of just installing, and lph fed up ll possible cases [17:04] possibly [17:04] s/II/with [17:04] i understand, but for a new install, there should not b the warning, no? [17:05] * luciash installing [17:05] yes. however, how do you know at the end if you run into a clean install or upgrade? [17:06] jonnyb: try uncompressing the tar.gz file [17:06] ok [17:06] if u click INSTALL = clean install, right? [17:07] ricks99: yes [17:08] xavi - so files with long filenames seem to be missing for you, yes? [17:08] * luciash forgot to translate the utf-8 installer step :-p [17:09] * luciash notes [17:09] which UTF should my db be? utf_8_general_ci? [17:09] jonnyb: nope. there are extra folders and files for me [17:09] hmmm, this doesn't seem good [17:09] at the same level as the tikipre folder [17:10] "Úspěšně provedené operace instalace: 6432 SQL dotazů." :) [17:10] maybe the mac zipping until is weird [17:10] I was 4.1 it told me 4.3 and major exists - I upgraded to 4.3 ... no more message :-( (missing the major) [17:11] ricks99: i think you shouldn't care about that, the installer does that ;) [17:11] until/util [17:11] * ricks99 wonders if his phpadmin is messed up. by default, any new db i create is latin1-sweedish? wtf? [17:11] * jonnyb switches off auto-correct [17:12] no ricks99 - that' the mysql default [17:12] @luchiash: the installer doesn't create the db? i though i had to do it first? [17:12] jonnyb: installation in czech was succesfully completed [17:13] can someone else have a look at the gzip one, seems ok to me [17:13] thx luciash [17:13] ricks99: ah, ok, then i didn't care any my mysql create database tiki51; did it ;) [17:14] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [17:14] i have utf-8 default i think, genereal_ci seems the best choice [17:14] im confused. are we saying that tiki5.1 will create the db for you as part of the installer? [17:14] ricks99: nope, sorry, i misunderstood [17:15] yes, utf8_bin is a bit weird, i'd avoid that one (everything seems to come out of the db as encoded binary) [17:15] * ricks99 wonders if he is the only one who will be overly confused by the warnings? [17:16] has anyone else found the gz to be bad? [17:16] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28266 10/branches/5.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 5.1RC1 [17:16] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1.preRC1/tiki-5.1.preRC1.tar.gz [17:17] tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28267 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [17:17] tikiwiki: [ENH] User account settings for URL shortener [17:17] tikiwiki: [FIX] Typo in tiki-bot_bar.tpl when renaming promote to share [17:17] * sylvieg found out my no more complain about 5 - check frequency is a week - need only to forcecheck [17:18] jonnyb: no problem. using comand line, I saw the tar.gz fine, with no extra files [17:18] bbl [17:18] krusader or ark in 64bits might be buggy [17:19] going to test the install right now (got lampp installted) [17:19] tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r28268 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] A few fixes for the menu used at the bottom of s5 presentations. [17:19] *** sws has joined #tikiwiki [17:19] ok, let's hope so [17:20] *** sws has quit IRC (Client Quit) [17:25] yes, I agree with ricks99: step 8 in installer with a clean install would be nicer if it didn't show the "upgrading and running into encoding issues? ... "Dangerous: Fix double encoding" [17:25] anyway, installer went fine for me [17:26] ok, i'm at the "tag release" stage here [17:26] shall i go for it? [17:26] and I wonder about "01Dangerous: Fix double encoding" does that mean the fix is dangerous? [17:26] (suggest we fix the misplaced encoding message for 5.2) [17:26] minor issue: language.js seems not to work for me [17:27] I did the install in catalan, and the javascript message of password strength is in english, even if I translated and commited [17:27] so should we postpone? i'm not sure when i'll be able to donate another day next [17:27] minor issue. so , +1 to release as is right now [17:27] (i.e. someone else will have to do it) [17:28] so no blockers? [17:28] how hard to fix? [17:28] * ricks99 off to add as a known issue in the rel notes, in that case [17:28] more the question is: who has 6 hours to start all this release process just for this? [17:28] +1 jonnyb [17:29] thanks ricks99 for adding this tiny issue at the release notes [17:29] these issues have been in 5.x for a long time, they should wait for 5.2 i think [17:29] remember, this is still only RC1 [17:29] several hour left to go... [17:29] yes, jonnyb, you are right: go for rc1! [17:29] hours [17:30] here goes [17:30] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28269 10/tags/5.1RC1/: [REL] Tagging release [17:37] see updated release noes: http://tikiwiki.org/ReleaseNotes5.1 [17:37] no new featuers? only updates & fixes? [17:37] *** Kimberlee has quit IRC () [17:39] bbl [17:40] ok, new non-pre tarballs uploading for testing (of shall i just upload them to sf.net?) [17:40] s/of/or [17:41] no idea. for minimum potential noise, I'll test again [17:41] thanks xavi [17:44] *** coaboa_ has joined #tikiwiki [17:46] ok - bz2 is cooked: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1RC1/tiki-5.1.RC1.tar.bz2 [17:47] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28270 10/trunk/ (lib/setup/twversion.class.php tiki-admin.php): [MOD]version: add the number of the major new release [17:47] there I go for tar.bz2 [17:47] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [17:55] xavi: I think language.js is not used yet [17:55] or it's very recent [17:56] yes, not really used yet (but i thought i worked on the password strength strings) [17:56] in Spanish and Catalan at least [17:57] yes, it did work for me [17:57] gzip up: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1RC1/tiki-5.1.RC1.tar.gz [17:57] and very recently added by jonnyb [17:57] testing the gzip [17:57] i thought it was only in trunk... obviously not [17:57] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [17:57] thx sylvieg [18:02] * jonnyb curses his lamentable upload speed [18:03] fyi: utf-8 of the db not set properly, I'm afraid. My first install was a clean install on a new db... [18:03] db created through phpmyadmin, and usually get latin1 [18:04] I did run the installer with the forece utf-8 for new installations, the first time [18:04] really? you created it with latin1 i guess [18:04] everything when fine, parently [18:04] did you try the 'fix it' button (the first one) [18:04] and nowadays, I'm testing the 5RC1, over the same db [18:04] zip is here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/5.1RC1/tiki-5.1.RC1.zip [18:04] and when installing it, I provide same db details: username, db, etc. [18:05] and I see then the "convert db and tables to utf-8" [18:05] xavi: oh OK, I'll try checking [18:05] i also checked the new zip locally - no sign of any funny Mac files, so i'll start the upload to sf.net (can always remove them if anything really bad appears) [18:05] thus, I presume that previously was not set to utf-8 by the installed, even if the checkbox "utf-8" was selected at the installer [18:06] *** rotterdam is now known as rotterdam|ZzZz [18:06] * sylvieg was also frighten with the encoding warning - but I went through with no problem [18:06] *** rotterdam|ZzZz has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:08] *** rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki [18:08] *** rotterdam is now known as rotterdam|ZzZz [18:08] * sylvieg does not remember what happens the the translation of the first page / homepage [18:09] I though some time ago it was translated... [18:09] i thought so too sylvieg [18:10] i did get an error in the release script on the update lang files part though [18:10] the rest is correctly translated [18:11] Warning: unlink(temp/permstrings.tpl): No such file or directory in /Users/jonny/5.x_release/doc/devtools/release.php on line 118 [18:11] but then it says: >> Language files updated and temporary files removed. [18:11] so i guess it was really ok [18:12] there is not tranlstaion of the homepage in the language.php [18:12] so probably somebody changed it [18:12] .... I supopose we need a lag/fr/homeapge [18:13] or do it from a profile? [18:13] jonnyb, everything went fine here, beyond that minor wrong info about db encoding [18:14] good, thanks - the bz2 is on it's way to sf.net [18:14] xavi do you know something about the homepage translation ( I did not begin in install in fr - I did only after the switch) [18:14] "after the switch"? [18:14] mine is fine also teh tar.gz [18:15] if you do it in a local language, the homepage should be in that lang (provided it's translated in language.php, of course) [18:15] testing right now with catalan again [18:15] I entered tiki - goto i18n change lang to fr [18:15] but homepage did not changed [18:15] ah, no, then. it seems to be fetched at installation time from language.php, afaik [18:15] HomePage is set in the installer, i think [18:16] sylvieg, the behavior you explain would be even better , but minor issue, imho [18:16] so it is because I switch too late in the instal [18:16] i seem to remember if you remove the homepage it makes a new on (in the right lang, one would hope) [18:17] yes, I confirm it works if you do the whole installation in your language [18:17] +1 jony - it works [18:17] well, at some point, due to the utf-8 fix buttons, language is lost, afair [18:18] ok, did run out of time here. congrats for the release, jonnyb-release-manager! :-) [18:18] :D [18:18] (hopefully) [18:18] see you all [18:18] thanks for your help [18:19] a pleasure I could help a bit [18:19] *** xavi has left [18:34] is there something else I can do for the release ? [18:36] re [18:36] just waiting for the files to upload [18:36] *** FrankP has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [18:36] i'm having to use the web interface as i didn't seem to have the right perms via sftp [18:36] oh, yes, now i noticed... my homepage is translated to czech after installation was done in czech. but there seems to be some problem with encoding on that page [18:37] it might have died... [18:37] i get ?? instead of correct utf-8 chars [18:38] luciash: on a fresh 5.1 RC1? :-/ [18:38] yes [18:38] bleh [18:38] but not all accented chars, only some of them [18:38] in a utl-8 db? [18:38] utf [18:38] surprysingl ž, š, and í are displayed correctly [18:39] *surprisingly [18:39] hmm, let me check [18:39] i thought the language translation doesn't depend on db by default tho [18:41] interface is correct, just the homapage content, so, hmm, maybe you're right, i didn't create the db properly maybe [18:41] check the encoding of the lang.php file? [18:42] what is the command to check encoding of the db in mysql console ? [18:42] you can see it on phpmyadmin [18:42] on the "variables" page [18:43] no phpmyadmin here :-p, just console mysql [18:44] google "select like charset" - it's something involving that [18:44] ah, got it [18:44] tried status; [18:44] seems it is my fault, sorry, it is latin1 there [18:45] i will try to re-run installer and update and fix to utf-8 [18:46] * jonnyb fears we haven't seen the last of the charset business [18:46] ricks99: you were doing much more clever job than me believing my db is utf-8 ready ;) [18:47] ok, got proper sftp to sf.net working (after re-reading the instructions) [18:47] jonnyb: hopefully the encoding issue gets fixed by the installer now [18:47] seems not though, for you? [18:49] luciash: the interface translation doesn't depend on the DB but the content translation (kind of the case here) does [18:50] hmm, got E_WARNING too after installation [18:51] Missing argument 13 for sendWikiEmailNotification(), called in /home/luci/Development/tiki51/lib/tikilib.php on line 4587 and defined [18:52] chealer: yeah, just realized that [18:53] it occurs when i set no sender email in installer imho [18:54] luciash: sounds like a pre-existing issue [18:54] jonnyb: yeah, re-run the installer, fixed the encoding issue, switched to cz, reinstalled db and now the content is correctly in proper utf-8 [18:55] nice [18:55] can you add anything to the release notes on this? [18:55] for fresh installation it is pretty nice to be able to do that via installer [18:55] yea [19:11] ok, the files are on sf.net at last [19:11] https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/ [19:19] @jonnyb: is 5.1 "done"? [19:20] hi ricks99 - 5.1 RC 1 is [19:20] "RC"- K. [19:21] how long do we plan until final? [19:21] can you sanity check one for me pls? https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/ [19:21] trying to decide if it is worth a news reelase [19:21] depends if everyone likes this one, i guess [19:21] grabbing the zip.... [19:21] no, let's test a bit more pls [19:22] k but i want to do a mini annoucement for wider testing [19:23] sounds good [19:25] goddamnit ! :( [19:25] wtf ? [19:26] i edited the page like mad to add to the releae notes, want to add remarksbox so i click the (?) help icon to find that plugin and instead of the jQueryUI popup all my content is gone :( [19:26] on tw.o :( [19:27] it really sucks [19:27] click for help does nothing but reload the edited page, grmbl >:( [19:28] yuk - sounds like a js error there (again) [19:28] jonnyb: sorry, i will not try to write it again to the releasenotes [19:28] check the js console [19:29] yeah, minified sucks [19:31] not minified - it's social networking again [19:31] ('twitter_update_list')' [null] is not an object [19:31] in blogger.js (again) [19:31] New Forum Posts: How to edit text in upload dialog for one group of users - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37939 [19:31] Uncaught ReferenceError: openEditHelp is not defined [19:32] tiki-editpage.php:219 [19:32] then it reloads the page [19:32] yes, but first there is: TypeError: Result of expression 'document.getElementById('twitter_update_list')' [null] is not an object. [19:33] Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'tooltips' of undefined [19:33] which then causes the rest of the js in the php file to fail [19:33] yes, all jquery is broken [19:33] ok [19:33] :( [19:33] solution is to debug http://twitter.com/javascripts/blogger.js (someone please!) or remove the twitter module [19:35] oh yea, also the CSS menu seems to be bugged (closes right away i move mouse from parent) [19:36] because of that [19:36] unassigning tiki tweets to see if it helps [19:37] c'mon [19:38] most of the tw.o sites have been broken like this in the past few weeks :( [19:39] ok, twitter thing gone, but error still there [19:40] try re-minifying? [19:41] hm, how to ? [19:42] clear public cache? [19:42] ah [19:42] Tiki cache ? [19:42] yy [19:42] or switch the pref off and on again [19:43] (then it won't do all the others... too late?) [19:43] nope :) [19:43] :) [19:43] my finger was on the button ;) [19:44] minify js off [19:44] try now ? [19:44] nice - errors all gone for me [19:44] (in safari) [19:44] minify on [19:45] Info: TopLink 5.1 RC1 Now Available - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article101-TopLink-5-1-RC1-Now-Available [19:45] ik - errors back :( [19:45] i told you minify sucks ;) [19:45] LOL, Tiki has gone renamed "TopLink" ? [19:46] svn up'ing there might help [19:46] ricks99: red alert ! ;) [19:46] it's two weeks out of date [19:46] ARg [19:46] :P [19:46] ah yup, not having that svn upping credentials on my hand now [19:46] anyone ? [19:46] sylvieg: ? [19:46] can u svn up tw.o ? [19:47] i think tw.o is an Oliver thing only afaik [19:47] aye [19:47] I do not have anymore access to tw.org [19:47] jonnyb: so i do js minify off now until svn upped, ok ? [19:47] i guess [19:48] if editing is broken it's pretty bad [19:48] yes, it really pissed me off, i tell you :-p [19:48] seems ok if not logged in for me [19:48] minify off again [19:48] have you switched minify off again? (could you put it back on for a few minutes) [19:48] (js minify to be more precise) [19:48] :D [19:48] hahaha [19:49] i want to find the actual offending bit of js [19:49] ok it is on now [19:49] apologies, all :( [19:49] it's probably fixable by changing some prefs i feel [19:49] ta [19:49] goin to put the tweets module on for anonymous and registered again [19:50] ricks99: np, hopefully it didn't leak into many RSS feeds already ;) [19:51] s/RSS feeds/RSS readers/ [19:51] well, i deleted the article [19:51] which now ve used a redirect insteadi realize, i should ha [19:51] which now i realize i should have used a redirect instead [19:52] jonnyb: i enabled the tweets module, hopefuly it doesn't affect your debugging hunt [19:52] again [19:52] probably not [19:53] think i'm too tired to wrestle with minify stuff now, so better switch it off again for now [19:54] i wonder if any of the other tw.o sites have the same problem [19:55] Info: Tiki 5.1 RC1 Now Available - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article102-Tiki-5-1-RC1-Now-Available [19:58] ok [19:59] it can be combination of more things [19:59] (CDN of google, minify css there too) [20:01] indeed [20:01] i'll try and recreate it locally [20:07] tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r28271 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-quick_edit.tpl: [FIX] module quick edit: false condition gives wsod (fixes #28084) [20:10] *** ricks99_ has joined #tikiwiki [20:12] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:13] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [20:16] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28272 10/branches/5.x/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] Installer: Don't show form to fix encoding on last page if it's a clean install. [20:31] *** redflo has left [20:45] *** RavenC has quit IRC (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) [20:48] *** ricks99_ has quit IRC (Quit: Get more help: Tiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org and Tiki Essentials http://twessentials.keycontent.org) [20:58] *** rotterdam|ZzZz is now known as rotterdam [21:03] *** Walrus23 has joined #tikiwiki [21:03] good morning/evening [21:04] i'm pretty new to tikiwiki, and i'm wanting to install the top horizontal menu for my site, and i'm completely lost [21:08] try admin/look & feel Walrus23 [21:08] ok [21:09] top bar -> menu [21:09] found it [21:09] thanks [21:09] it's early here, forgive me [21:09] it's late here - no worries [21:10] :) [21:10] lol [21:10] now i need to change what is on the bar [21:10] it isn't hard i'm sure [21:11] http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Menu [21:11] lol [21:11] ok, i think i'll leave it till after my next coffee [21:12] good plan [21:15] bbl [21:15] *** Walrus23 has quit IRC () [21:16] *** eromneg has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) [21:31] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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