[00:07] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28277 10/trunk/templates/tiki-plugin_trackerlist.tpl: [FIX] Remove useless code [00:15] *** rlpowell has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:16] *** rlpowell has joined #tikiwiki [00:45] *** batchman82 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [00:56] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [00:56] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [00:57] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [00:57] *** Kimberlee has joined #tikiwiki [00:57] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28278 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.0_mysql.sql: [KIL] saving a meg [00:58] hello all. [01:00] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [01:02] hi Kimberlee! [01:07] *** white has joined #tikiwiki [01:11] *** JoernOtt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:20] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [01:49] *** goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki [01:53] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:53] *** goj|ghost is now known as goj [01:54] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [01:54] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28279 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Allow syncing of googlemaps field in user tracker to user geolocation prefs [02:08] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [02:41] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Quit: MartinCleaver) [03:02] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: rodrigo_sampaio) [03:11] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28280 10/trunk/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googlemap.tpl: [FIX] setting maxwidth for popup (200 is the lowest supported) [03:25] *** marclaporte has left [03:26] *** Kimberlee has quit IRC () [04:35] *** rotterdam has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [04:39] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [05:31] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [05:51] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28281 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Allow setting of custom icons for markers on google map [06:06] New Forum Posts: Toggle buttons on modules - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=14&comments_parentId=37952 [07:04] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [07:20] *** Blue_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [07:21] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [07:54] *** j0n3 has joined #tikiwiki [07:55] hi! [08:11] hi [08:32] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [09:02] *** eromneg has joined #tikiwiki [09:02] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [09:25] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [09:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [09:25] polom [09:27] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:30] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [09:35] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [09:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [09:37] *** redflo has left [09:37] back after reboot [09:50] polom chibaguy - nice reboot? [10:01] yes, uneventful ;-) [10:01] windows security update, I think. [10:02] nice [10:03] feeling safer? [10:03] not really. ;-) [10:07] *** Anna__ has joined #tikiwiki [10:10] *** Anna__ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [10:15] polom [10:15] polom luciash [10:16] hi jonny [10:21] *** escamoteur has joined #tikiwiki [10:22] Notice: this variable may not be empty: $_POST["thread_sort_mode"] [10:22] Hi, while user tried to post a reply to a forum post he got the following message [10:22] and his post was lost, any idea? [10:22] hi luciash [10:23] escamoteur: what version of Tiki is that? [10:23] the latest stable [10:25] hm, I don't know. [10:25] That sounds kind of familiar. [10:26] But I don't have that version installed anywhere to test. [10:27] Did you google tikiwiki.org? maybe it came up in the forum. [10:28] hi chibaguy [10:28] bbl, lunch time here [10:28] When I try it everything works fine [10:29] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [10:30] The tikiwiki.org forums were behaving strangely when the site was using 4.x, inconsistently for different users, like that. I'm not sure if the reason was found. [10:41] hmmm, I just tried it as a different user, everything was fine, really strange and annoying [10:45] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [10:45] I guess if users can report details when it happens, like if they were writing a new post or replying to one, etc., maybe the pattern can be figured out. [10:46] He was replying to an existting post [10:46] ok. or maybe somebody else here has some ideas. [10:48] http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=36043 [10:50] http://irc.tikiwiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2010-02-16,Tue&sel=380#l376 [10:54] If it's the same problem, it should've been fixed. Maybe something else is going on. [10:58] *** test has joined #tikiwiki [10:58] *** test has quit IRC (Client Quit) [11:01] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [11:07] *** rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki [11:15] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [11:26] *** rotterdam has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:28] Hmm, it seems, the the links on my problems all relate to TikiWiki 4.4 and not 5 [11:34] well, if you're still seeing the problem (or your users are) then maybe not enough people are using Tiki 5 yet for the problem to be reported. Or maybe there's something unusual about your installation. [11:35] Seems so. [11:36] Now my user could reply to a post, but when I tried to edit it again he got the same message [11:37] I would say keep track of all kinds of details, like which browser is used even. [11:37] Perhaps later when our american friends are awake ;-) [11:37] right. [11:37] He is using FF 3.6.8 [11:57] *** white is now known as JoernOtt [12:03] re [12:07] New Forum Posts: auto replace words with links to page - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=37958 [12:13] ricks99, I assume you have to paste in your forum signature in every post. It would be good if Tiki forums had a signature option. [12:13] Seems like I saw little artifact of that, that never got implemented. [12:15] chibaguy: it's there, but only for privileged users ;) [12:16] wow, that's a shock. ;-) [12:16] chibaguy: it is called dynamic variables -- %luci% ;) [12:16] ah ha. privileged = brain is working. [12:17] no, i mean, you have to be site admin or editor to get the perms [12:17] (plus the permission) [12:17] :) [12:17] well, it should be a feature, I think. [12:18] forum sig... on the wish list I believe [12:18] perhaps we could have a plugin alias to do that [12:18] also a way to "sign" wiki pages (ala wikipedias's ~~~ feature) [12:18] that'd be good. then it could be anywhere. [12:19] would {sig user=luci} do the trick ? [12:19] it'd be good to have one verbose one for places like the forum post, and a short one for wiki editing, maybe. [12:20] ah, u mean even easier without passing the user var, hmm, maybe yes, using plugin alias and some user tracker [12:20] @luci: no... users shouldnt be able to sign as someone else [12:20] yea, i understand [12:21] hi and bye all - need to focus, mail or skype me if you need me [12:21] *** jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: I am going outside... I may be some time...) [12:21] so, {sig} could do that [12:21] it can be hard-coded in the button bar [12:21] theoretically [12:21] (i did that a while ago) [12:25] i think LastMod plugin could be extended to do that [12:26] for wiki pages only though [12:27] well, I think maybe there are two different needs. seems like for forum signatures there should be a textarea in my tiki prefs to enter text or an img src, etc. [12:28] i see [12:28] I'm not sure what is good for wiki pages, but something small it seems. [12:29] for furm sigs, would be nice to reuse the My Tiki > Notepad [12:29] well, lastmod wouldn't work, hmm, because it would change the signature with every edit [12:29] be able to specify if a specific "note" as sig [12:30] it would need to be something injecting hardcoded username in the page wiki code, to stay permanent [12:30] maybe just a toolbar icon could do the trick :) [12:31] while editing the page, click the sig icon, and voila :) [12:32] perfect [12:32] @luciash. thats what i did earlier... [12:32] the question is if it's possible to put the current user name in the icon params [12:32] ricks99: ah, nice [12:32] *** FrankP has joined #tikiwiki [12:33] see: http://tikiwiki.org/blogpost307 [12:35] cool, i will have a look if current toolbars allow insert current user dynamically without need of editing tpl files [12:38] Q: is there a performance difference between using {img fileid=1} vs [dl1] [12:38] ricks99: yes [12:38] which is better? [12:38] [dl1] [12:39] so is good (performance wise) [12:39] yes [12:39] perfect. tx luciash [12:39] it is always faster not to parse [12:39] good to know [12:40] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [12:46] ricks99: don't forget the "" ;) [12:46] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28282 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [12:46] tikiwiki: [ENH] Tracker field admin: Add validation field to field list, and shorten column names to try and fit in fixed-width themes (almost). [12:46] tikiwiki: Also return to list after saving field details instead of showing new field form. [12:48] yup. [12:51] Hi, while user tried to post a reply to a forum post he got the following message [12:51] Notice: this variable may not be empty: $_POST["thread_sort_mode"] [12:52] and his post was lost, any idea? [12:52] I use TikiWiki 5 [12:56] tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r28283 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [12:56] tikiwiki: [ENH] Using css classes for authors in wikiplugin_author and in page-contribution statistics [12:56] tikiwiki: [FIX] Eliminiate NOTICEs and set default values for options in tiki-page-contribution.php [13:00] *** RavenC has joined #tikiwiki [13:04] escamoteur: I have seen before but dunno if it's solved [13:04] perhaps in 5.1 [13:05] bbl [13:05] *** marclaporte has left [13:05] *** rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki [13:19] *** redflo has left [13:19] *** FrankP has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:19] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [13:24] *** FrankP has joined #tikiwiki [13:30] is there a way to generate/register a child-account-username and password by registering a parent-account which will be in the parents group? Usage for a kids page where parents shoud coregister their childs accounts. [13:31] maybe through some sort of tracker? [13:34] *** escamoteur has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [13:50] coaboa: maybe you can use a wizard type registration form (step by step) to register the children and two user trackers (one for parents and one for kids) using item link and items list type fields and categories [14:00] thx [14:25] *** yonixxxxx has joined #tikiwiki [14:31] oooooh! 5.1 RC1 !! Grats to all! [15:11] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [15:11] polom [15:18] *** rotterdam has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:18] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:19] hi [15:20] hi coaboa (Carsten, isn't it?) [15:20] yes, its me ;-) [15:20] :-) [15:27] btw, coaboa (I was reading the backlog), the answer to your question "is there a way to generate/register a child-account-username...? " is "no, there isn't", afaik [15:28] maybe could be extended reusing the category transition feature. Once the parent add some object (tracker item) to a certain category, then the user (child) become a valid user? (just thinking loud) [15:28] in fact I don't really know whether this is possible or not... just remembered the "theory" about category transitions... [15:28] hth [15:29] perhaps a datachannel can work (need to check if profile support user creation [15:30] sylvieg: profile supports user creation, since jonnyb fixed that, afaik, recently [15:30] * xavi feels that he has sent too many emails to sylvieg in the last days.... [15:32] for the notification - yes xavi I know that it will be great improvements ( I had them already in mind) - for the newsletter/group watch - I still do not understand [15:34] newsletter... sylvieg , do you know that newsletters can use a wiki page as template? [15:34] yes I think so... [15:34] yes, I confirm, they can [15:35] the idea is, thus, that an admin prepares some template (based on a wiki page with last_traccker_items and upcoming_events plugins, for instance) [15:35] people I know usually reuse the last newsletter .. [15:36] and every xxx days, that newsletter is sent to groups of users [15:36] "reuse last newsletter": that's fine for static text, and for sending manually [15:36] I like the idea - a lot lot more than group watch - see my last email [15:36] your last email... didn't read it, there I go to check email [15:38] polom [15:38] hi [15:39] hi xavi. regarding the JavaScript translation issue yesterday, on which branch did you find the problem? [15:39] 5x. in trunk it's working, and in 5x from a week or so, it's working also [15:39] chealer ^ [15:40] xavi: hum, so this translation system was backported to 5.x :-? [15:40] yes, if not by jonnyb, then by me (in some hectic-working day) [15:41] it's working here: http://gavarrespedia.org/tiki-register.php (Catalan site, based on Tiki 5 revision something) [15:46] sylvieg, I read the email [15:46] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28284 10/trunk/tiki-setup.php: [MOD] JS: Use non-minified validate lib when minify is off (will be minified like the rest if the feature is on). [15:46] group watch has an "unwatch" (through the plugin "subscribegroup") [15:51] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28285 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX] Tracker plugin: Use tracker_item_field_input.tpl like other fields for user type 1 fields so the description also appears. [15:51] xavi: works for me [15:52] glad to know, chealer. you mean language.js in 5x? [15:52] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28286 10/trunk/lib/ (validators/validator_distinct.php validatorslib.php): [FIX] Validator distinct: Exclude current itemId from values and use message param for the message if supplied. [15:53] xavi: yes [15:53] you get the strings translated into another lang which have them translated? [15:53] ok [15:53] yes [15:53] it didn't work for me yesterday in tiki5rc1 [15:55] xavi: the backport is buggy though (see r27956) [15:58] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28287 10/trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_input.tpl: [FIX] Tracker inputs: Add id's for missing field types so validation will work on them (email, url, numeric & small textarea) [16:05] byeee [16:05] *** j0n3 has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [16:07] is there an option to enlarge the fontsize eg in 3 steps. eg 16, 18, 20 px? [16:08] or do i have to generate 3 css file and switch between [16:08] *files [16:08] grab the widget from somewhere and put it in your custom code in look'n'feel [16:09] google for it, should be possible via JS [16:09] oki thx [16:09] Tiki doesn't have font size chooser implemented [16:10] got one, try it thx for the hint [16:22] ... A spider just get into my laptop... what is the feature "get rid of it" name in tikiwiki ? :D [16:24] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [16:42] mmm, any idea when the new branch proposals/5.x will be created? [16:42] or how this needs to be created? [16:43] chealer? ^ [17:02] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28288 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [FIX] Trackerfilter: Stop plugin export mode conflicting with normal tracker view/admin export filters display. [17:14] *** xavi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:24] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [17:45] *** coaboa_ has joined #tikiwiki [17:47] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:49] *** rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki [17:54] tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r28289 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] See bug 2257, re-introduced support for minor=y|n in the last_modif_pages module. Default = y (no change for existing using). Use of "n" requires the Wiki pref, "allow minor edits" to be enabled. [18:28] xavi: apparently when 5.1 is released [18:29] ah, ok (not in rc time, good catch) [18:29] thanks, chealer [18:30] chealer, see pm [18:42] anybody have any idea how to customize the emails sent from tracker item (from the watch feature) [18:42] ? [18:44] templates/styles/mail [18:54] yes, ricks99, thanks. but I looked there, and I don't understand the logic to add the markup/style/content to the tracker item data sent in the email [18:55] I saw the tpl, but no idea how to split which fields to include and which not [18:55] bbl [19:04] *** escamoteur has joined #tikiwiki [19:04] ricks99: minor modifs aren't that simple [19:07] ? i did some testing and seemed ok. the vversion_modif column in the pages table determins if the last edit was minor, and which rev [19:07] ricks99: I tried fixing last_modif_pages last year and gave up. what really needs to be done is to implement a sort by last "major" edit in tikilib->list_pages() [19:07] I encounter with TikiWiki 5 a strange behaviour: Only one of my users gets the message [19:07] Notice: this variable may not be empty: $_POST["thread_sort_mode"] [19:08] when replying to a forum thread or to edit one of his posts [19:08] ricks99: with the r28289, doing a minor edit on a page will make that page disappear from last_modif_pages, for example [19:08] *if minor=y [19:08] that was the point [19:09] i dont want minor changes showing in last changes [19:10] ricks99: unfortunately I lost what I had done in a reinstall. unless you *really* want that feature, I'd recommend to remove minor modifs support again [19:10] ricks99: yes, I understand the point of the option, but the implementation is much more complicated than r28289 [19:10] I was not able to reproduce it with one of my users [19:11] not sure i understand. minor edits ar alrady flagged as such (with the ver #) in the db. all i did was filter them in the tpl [19:11] someone else did the "hard" part alrady [19:12] ricks99: yes, I fixed the ability to distinguish minor edits last year. then I went on to fix last_modif_pages, but realized it was really hard [19:13] ...unless you write a function that specifically deals with minor changes, just for last_modif_pages [19:14] in my local testing it worked well. [19:14] what's hard is to return the list of changes sorted by last major edit date [19:14] ricks99: did you test the above? [19:14] thats better of course, all im doing is filterint ght list [19:14] y. when minor=y, they are shown, when minor=n the are not shown, [19:15] requires wiki pref allow minor edit [19:15] the returned array still includes evertyhing [19:15] ricks99: no, I mean, did you test "doing a minor edit on a page will make that page disappear from last_modif_pages, for example"? [19:16] yes, *if* minor=y in the module [19:16] that was the whole point [19:17] or have i misuderstood you? [19:19] ricks99: if minor=n [19:19] d'oh. y. that's what i meant [19:20] ricks99: r28289 doesn't break existing module assignments, but a new module with minor=n wouldn't behave correctly [19:20] ricks99: do you agree that with minor=n, a minor modification shouldn't affect what last_modif_pages lists? [19:22] n [19:22] when minor=n, minor edits should *not* be shown [19:23] minor=y (default) minor edits *are* shown [19:24] do u follow? [19:24] ricks99: the thing is, last_modif_pages doesn't display edits [19:24] it displays pages [19:25] if it was to display edits, things would be very simple [19:25] no... i'm not explaining this right..... [19:25] currently last_modif_pages lists every page that was edited. [19:25] yes [19:26] if minor=n, pages hat were last saved as a "minor edit" will *not* be shown [19:26] thats all [19:26] currently meaning, in Tiki 5, say [19:26] *** rig has joined #tikiwiki [19:26] do u understand now? [19:26] ricks99: exactly. and that's not what the option is supposed to do. [19:27] the option is simply supposed to ignore minor modifications [19:27] says who? the docs inidcate that is exactly the intent [19:27] yes. minor modifications = user used the SAVE AS MINOR EDIT option [19:27] hello? [19:28] hlp plz... [19:28] ricks99: not really. the doc says "Include "minor" changes in the listing." [19:28] yes. [19:28] HELLO!? [19:28] if minor = y, pages taht were last saved as a MINOR EDIT will appear in the listing [19:28] which is in fact misleading, since the module doesn't display changes or edits. [19:29] ricks99: yes. minor=y is not the problem, it works fine. [19:29] the module shows pages. [19:29] i want to show all pages *except* those that were saved as minor edits [19:30] ricks99: not really. you want to ignore minor edits. which doesn't mean you don't want pages with a last edit being a minor edit showing. [19:31] don't see the difference [19:31] ricks99: yeah, let's take an example. you have pages Foo and Bar [19:31] both have 1 major edit and no minor edits. bar was the last one edited. [19:32] you have last_modif_page with minor=n. the shows "1. Bar 2. Foo ...more". [19:32] ricks99: right? [19:33] correct [19:33] ricks99: what do you think should happen if I do a minor edit on Bar? [19:33] Im using tiki 1.9 and with the mittwoch theme i tried to enable "articles" from admin features bu t all i get now is a blank page with only the theme part showing every module just dissapeared [19:34] help..... [19:34] if minor=y no change. if minor=n, then 1. foo more... [19:34] !help [19:34] You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [19:34] ricks99: we're talking about minor=n. if you really expect Bar to disappear, you have a very strange use case. [19:35] @rig: 1.9 is quite old (current is 5.0). have you teid the forums. [19:35] @chealer: my use case: [19:35] if I make a "mior" edit to a page, (such as fixing a typo). I do NOT want to "showcase" the page in the last changes module [19:35] yeah they dont have any thing on this... (1.9 is ooooold) [19:36] ricks99: if this is really what you want, feel free to do it, but it needs a very clear documentation. [19:36] @chealer: again, the intention is to "hide" minorly edited pages from showing in the last changes module [19:37] doc says this... [19:37] ricks99: well that's not exactly what r28289 does neither. it hides pages which have a minor edit as their last edit. [19:37] "minor = y|n" determines if minor edited pages are shown in the listing [19:38] *** rig has left [19:38] doc was already like that -- i *did not* update thee odc page [19:38] i dont understand ur usecase [19:38] ricks99: not exactly. a page will still show, unless its last edit was a minor edit. [19:38] ricks99: I'm talking about the option description (in mod-func-last_modif_pages.php) [19:40] "01a page will still show, unless its last edit was a minor edit." thats the whole point [19:40] ricks99: my use case for last_modif_pages would be to see the pages which most recently had a "major" change. [19:41] it's not my point, but again, feel free to do it if the description is clear. [19:41] clearer if i change it to: If set to "n", pages that were last saved as a "minor" edit will NOT be included in the list of pages. This option applies only when using the Wiki Minor Edits option.' [19:43] does that make it easier to understand? [19:44] ricks99: yes, but you'd also need a clear name. [19:45] ricks99: for the formulation, I would prefer "This option applies only when Wiki Minor Edits is enabled. [19:45] " [19:46] or "the Wiki Minor Edits option" as you wrote [19:46] k. apologies for the confusion. i'll update the param description [19:50] tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r28290 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-last_modif_pages.php: [DOC] Updated description of the "minor" parameter to make it clearer. Option specifies whether or not wiki pages that were last saved as a "minor edit" are included in the list of pages. Tx 2 chealer [19:52] * ricks99 hopes that is clearer. :-) [19:54] ricks99: I disagree with the name "Include minor edits" [19:55] ricks99: I would expect that to mean "Consider minor edits", but that's not what it does. [19:56] *** yoni has joined #tikiwiki [19:58] *** listerine has joined #tikiwiki [19:58] *** yonixxxxx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:59] xavi: i have created one custom mail tpl for Tiki 4, i can have a look if you stil need some hint [19:59] *** escamoteur has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:59] xavi: for tracker [20:08] *** listerine has left "Saindo" [20:09] @chealer: i dont see the differnece. minor = y means consider pages that were last saved as minor edit for inclusion ni the listing [20:10] back [20:10] yes, luciash, please [20:10] bbl [20:10] ok, i will catch you on skype [20:11] *** ricks99_ has joined #tikiwiki [20:11] dinner time here [20:11] if you can send me an email, if would be perfect [20:11] I won't be online much more today [20:11] ok, i will send it by mail (the tpl) [20:12] enjoy your dinner :) [20:13] ricks99: yes, but that's way too complicated to be summarized as "Consider minor edits". One would expect that with "Consider minor edits", all minor edits would be considered, while with "Consider minor edits" Off, all minor edits would not be considered. [20:13] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:16] minor = y, minor edits are included // minor = n, minor edits are not included [20:16] *** ricks99_ is now known as ricks99 [20:19] ricks99: first of all, "minor edits are included" is misleading. the module includes pages, not edits. They could be included in an internal list, but the user is not supposed to know that. [20:20] the issue is wheter or not to include a page that was last saved as a minor edit [20:21] all i need is a way to dteremine y|n if pages that were last saved as a minor edit should be shown in the list [20:21] ricks99: that's *your* issue, yes (not what the original parameter meant) [20:22] sorry for being so dense.. what was the orgiinal intent? [20:23] ricks99: the original intent is to ignore minor edits. if one does a minor edit, the contents of last_modif_pages is unchanged if minor=n. [20:23] ahh... [20:24] so if a page was listed as #3, you want it to remain as #3 in the list [20:24] i understand now [20:24] yes, that is a *much* bigger job [20:24] ricks99: yes [20:24] mine was a simple tweak to stop page #3 from moving to the top of the list [20:25] i understand now. that would b a refinement of my tweak [20:25] no? [20:25] ricks99: yeah, but doing so, it actually disappears from the list [20:25] y. because im not actually chaging the array. just skipping it [20:25] quick & easy :-) [20:26] ricks99: well, as I wrote, I tried doing that last year and left the work unfinished (after over a day of attempts/failures, little progress) [20:26] so it would be quite a refinement [20:26] agreed [20:27] unless, as I wrote, you'd write a function specifically for last_modif_pages (but I'm not sure this is as easy/good as it sounds) [20:27] persoannly, i think my tweak is an easy middle ground (the minro edited page does not move to #1, but as you point out it is removed entirely [20:27] really need a new module: last_major_changes [20:28] ricks99: last_major_changes sounds as hard as last_modif_pages with minor=n to me [20:29] if you take "minor=n" to mean "show no minor edited pages" it makes sense [20:29] when minor =n, *no* minor edits will be shown in the list at all. [20:30] really need a tri-state: y=show minor edits as regular edit, n=show no pages with minor, and XX=shown minor edits, but use date of last major [20:30] so as soon as you finish up the XX option, it is done. ;-) [20:32] sorry it took me so long to understand. i didnt realize there were 3 possiblities [20:33] ricks99: that doesn't make sense to me. I don't see any use case for excluding page that had a minor edit from the ranking. [20:33] s/page/pages/ [20:34] *** xavi has left [20:34] user wants to see the last five changed pages *except* if the page's change was a minor change [20:35] user does not want minorly edited pages cluttering up the listing [20:36] ricks99: not me anyway. If the last 10 "major" modifications were on Bar, I want to see Bar at the top of the ranking. even if the last edit on Bar was an eleventh edit which was minor. [20:36] y. sounds like u want a different module: last_major_modif_pages [20:37] to me, this is different than last_modif_pages [20:37] in ur example, will the alt text for bar show the date of the 10th or 11th edit? [20:37] ricks99: not really. I want the old last_modif_pages, but working if I put minor=n. [20:37] (old: over a year ago) [20:37] k. (never new it worked that way) [20:39] ricks99: if minor=n, I guess it should show the date of the 10th edit, although it shouldn't present it as the page's last modification page. [20:39] see. i think that's confusing. to show last modify on X (10th edit) when it isi reallyl Y (11th edit) [20:39] anyway, ive got to sign off. if u want me to roll back, i will, and i'll re-submit with a completely different para. [20:40] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get more help: Tiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org and Tiki Essentials http://twessentials.keycontent.org) [20:54] *** RavenC has quit IRC (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) [21:01] *** FrankP has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:05] *** Kimberlee has joined #tikiwiki [21:05] hello all [21:23] hi [21:44] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3507 - - 5.0RC1 - wiki Editing option "check orthography" ->em ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3507 [21:47] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [22:01] *** yoni has quit IRC (Quit: yoni) [22:05] *** rotterdam has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:06] community down? [22:09] OK, perhaps just slow [22:15] *** eromneg has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) [22:16] *** coaboa_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [22:17] *** rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki [22:19] *** redflo has left [22:28] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [22:28] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [22:30] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [22:42] chealer: there is a module mod-last_youtube_playlist_videos.php without the func?? Does it work? [22:46] *** Kissaki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [22:51] *** Kissaki has joined #tikiwiki [22:54] sylvieg: I didn't notice it, but I guess it does. old-style modules are still supported. the plan would be to drop support with the upcoming Admin Modules revamp though. 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