[00:08] New Forum Posts: Editing FAQs - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38004 [00:08] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [00:43] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [01:06] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [01:07] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28356 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Text version generation should also work with artice clipping - and associated fixes [01:21] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28357 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): some minor improvements to the feature to write the database translation back to language.php or custom.php [01:23] *** MartinCleaver has joined #tikiwiki [01:36] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [01:49] *** goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki [01:53] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:53] *** goj|ghost is now known as goj [01:55] *** MartinCleaver has quit IRC (Quit: MartinCleaver) [03:01] *** ksign has joined #tikiwiki [03:02] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: rodrigo_sampaio) [03:43] *** ksign has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [04:15] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28358 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] fix a typo with an accent via the improved Interactive Translation feature and the new translation upstream enhancements that will be used on i18n.tikiwiki.org Thank you to Louis-Philippe & Rodrigo [04:27] New Forum Posts: Duplicating menus - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38008 [04:32] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28359 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [ENH] add a translation [05:17] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28360 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): modify fields in tiki_language to tinytext instead of tinyblob [06:19] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [06:54] good morning [08:32] New Forum Posts: Direct manipulation of SQL page imports, Morcego colors - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38009 [08:54] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [09:50] *** Andurino has joined #tikiwiki [11:13] *** redflo has left [11:30] New Forum Posts: Batch upload/SQL page imports, Morcego colors - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38009 [11:40] tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r28361 10/trunk/templates/ (blog_post_footer.tpl tiki-view_blog_post.tpl): [FIX] show blog comments again [12:07] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [12:20] *** Skyrider has joined #tikiwiki [12:20] Hey everyone [12:20] I am in need of assistance as I'm getting nuts.. [12:20] Does tikiwiki 5.0 work with SMTP gmail? [12:20] *** Skyrider is now known as Guest9637 [12:20] *** Guest9637 is now known as Skyridr [12:32] anyone? >_> [12:36] orry never tried gmail [12:36] *s [13:11] *** Skyridr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:14] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [13:19] *** JoernOtt has joined #tikiwiki [13:20] hi [13:20] hi coaboa [13:20] polom all [13:21] does one know how I offer a link to disply a random page for reading (no list of n-page titles as in random_pages)? [13:22] have you checked the list pages plugin? it might have an option [13:23] but I think this will not work from a menu-link as it needs a containing page, or do I miss something? [13:24] it->the plug-in [13:24] oh, in a menu - sorry - no idea [13:25] you could probably cook something up in jQuery quite easily (if you do that kind of thing) [13:26] ok using a switch page though... thx [13:27] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28362 10/trunk/lib/prefslib.php: [FIX] Notices [14:13] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28363 10/third_party/jquery/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Experimental in browser jQuery DOM inspector plugin to assist in custom CSS generation (early days - lots TODO) [14:15] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28364 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [14:15] tikiwiki: [NEW] Link to activate "brosho" CSS assistant on admin/look. [14:15] tikiwiki: (lots more TODO) [14:24] JoernOtt: are you still getting an error from tw.o when editing plugins? [14:27] hi, interessant brosho [14:36] New Forum Posts: sefurl & file gallery broken links - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=38010 [14:41] polom luciash - i thought you'd like it :) [14:41] probably more so when it does something useful! [14:43] just saw that /templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_colo (r)box.tpl misses the R. in filename. is this intended? [14:53] it's the same as in the php code coaboa - so let's say it is! :) [14:57] *** eromneg has joined #tikiwiki [14:57] saves a character ;-) [14:58] is anyone else seeing this page name becoming "Array" on links in trunk? [14:59] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28365 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): [ENH] Have a way to redirect tiki-view_tracker.php?itemId=yyy to a page Prefixyyy through the semantic page prefix alias feature [14:59] like tiki-editpage.php?page=Array [15:00] it definitely always happens if you use the CATORPHANS plugin [15:00] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [15:00] not other ones? [15:00] most odd [15:00] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28366 10/trunk/lib/search/searchlib-mysql.php: [FIX] Add sefurl to tracker item search results [15:01] I'm trying other to see what happens [15:01] others [15:02] in the debugger (from sprint $page) i see [15:03] page = Array ( [pageName] => testPageDefault1 ) [15:03] not just "test" which is the name of the page [15:15] which template generates the content for div id "top". enabled template editing but its editicon disapears on usual wiki pages but is available elsewere? [15:15] *** Skyrdr has joined #tikiwiki [15:15] Man [15:16] I really wish SMTP function would work with tikiwiki [15:18] @jonny an OK page shows the correct page name using sprint $page [15:18] it looks like it's the catorphans plugin [15:19] @jonny - but a corrupted page shows page=Array([pagename] =>test new page) [15:22] eromneg: so have you found other plugins that cause this? [15:22] jonny: not yet - just checking when catorphans was last changed [15:23] found it [15:23] *** changi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:23] the smart $page var is assigned_by_ref to the php global $page [15:23] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28367 10/trunk/templates/advanced_search_help.tpl: [FIX]help: reintroduce some examples [15:24] so if that ever gets changed (as it does in wikiplugin_catorphans.tpl) everything breaks [15:24] madness! :D [15:25] jonny: but pages with catorphans used to work a while back - so what else has changed? [15:27] does one know which template generates the main content of a wiki page? [15:27] Is this normal when I set permissions? [15:28] Notice: Undefined index: Beta Testers in /vtiki-objectpermissions.php on line 504 [15:28] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28368 10/trunk/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_catorphans.tpl: [15:28] tikiwiki: [FIX] Catorphans plugin: Don't use $page as it's the global for the current page name (and in smarty everything is global). [15:28] tikiwiki: Thanks eronmeg [15:28] eromneg: don't know - but fixed it (with a hammer) - need to get on with releasing 5.1! [15:29] but if "trunk was broken" then 5.x might have been too, so needed investigating [15:30] Ey guys [15:30] I just set up a wiki: http://wiki.esforces.com/tiki-index.php <-- but I noticed something a bit off [15:31] The register & forgot my password [15:31] it starts with | [15:31] Skyrdr: that bug's been fixed - not sure where [15:31] but it should be in the middle [15:31] 5.1 should be good [15:31] Anyway I can alter that? [15:31] ah, thanks :) [15:32] jonny: thanks - trunk fixed now [15:32] ok, starting to launch 5.1 now [15:33] :o? [15:33] So I can upgrade soon? [15:33] not if i don't release it :) [15:33] I find tikiwiki much better than media. [15:33] The themes and quite a few options/features is something I need. [15:34] Especially permissions settings [15:34] I do hope you can tell me how to fix it though jonnyb [15:35] | I forgot my password Register <- on the link I just linked here, should be forgot my password | Register [15:35] not sure where I can alter it, quite new to this. [15:36] *** rotterdam|away is now known as rotterdam|busy [15:38] sorry - i don't understand and really need to release 5.1 - try starting at http://themes.tikiwiki.org/Tiki+Transforming [15:39] no worries :P [15:39] just wanted to say that the | is at the wrong place. [15:40] the symbol | that is [15:40] probably a CSS thing [15:40] Will check it out [15:42] Would love to hear how to upgrade one 5.1 gets out [15:42] Never upgraded before :) [15:42] tikiwiki that is [15:47] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28369 10/branches/5.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Version update [15:49] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28370 10/branches/5.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 5.1 [15:50] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28371 10/branches/5.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 5.1 [15:53] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28372 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-community.tpl: [ENH] User wiki pages settings should also be in Community admin panel [16:03] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28373 10/branches/5.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 5.1 [16:04] * jonnyb wonders why updating the copyright file takes 13 minutes... [16:06] "now more commits to 5.x", eh? :-) [16:07] yup, it's on it's way! :) [16:11] hmm, maybe not [16:11] release.php seems to be stuck [16:12] exactly at the point i thought i'd fixed (checking smarty templates) [16:12] how dull [16:13] i'm going to make T - maybe it's just taking longer... [16:16] ik, still 71% - i'm going in... [16:18] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28374 10/branches/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.1_mysql.sql: [REL] secdb [16:41] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28375 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [DOC] adding/fixing info in admin panels [16:45] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r28376 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Change delimiter used in yesterday's commit for consistency (thanks jonnyb for suggestion) [16:48] 5.1 tarballs nearly ready for testing - anyone around to help test? :) [16:48] the zip: http://alcns.net/dl3 [16:48] (uploaded with webdav ;) ) [16:50] hold on... link not working ;( [16:55] uploading the old way... [17:03] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28377 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [DOC] more admin panel cleanup [17:06] ok, webdav seems to be buggy - here they are uploaded via the browser: http://alcns.net/file4 [17:07] jonnyb: I am [17:07] hi chealer - was feeling a bit lonely :) [17:08] :-) [17:08] the upload is already pretty slow (20 KB/s), maybe that's good [17:08] 11 minutes remaining [17:08] well, the download from my perspective [17:08] the bz2 pre release is here: http://alcns.net/file4 - the rest are on their way [17:09] ah, you're on it - thx :) [17:10] does anyone have access to IIS 5 or 6? Microsoft says our Web Platform Installer is buggy on that, but not on IIS 7, which is the one I have [17:10] Windows XP Professional most likely (IIS 5) [17:11] I guess "anyone" would ideally be a developer, it would be painful to debug remotely [17:17] i'm not sure my alcns.net server is very happy... [17:17] i'll put them elsewhere [17:17] I'm at 50% [17:18] the gz one is still uploading here [17:18] server seems ok - 400 MB of RAM left... [17:20] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [17:22] polom [17:22] polomarclaporte [17:24] files on their way to dropbox [17:26] ok, bz2 is: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.pre.tar.bz2 [17:29] *** JoernOtt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:34] jonnyb: seems all right [17:34] lovely [17:34] i'm sure they all are really, but we should check [17:35] i'll start on the real tagging bit shortly [17:35] (I tried a fresh install) [17:35] the gz is: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.pre.tar.gz [17:39] the zip is about 10 MBs bigger than the bz2 - i wonder if there's an option to make it try harder? [17:41] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [17:47] polom ricks99 - look what i've got for you! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.pre.zip [17:47] :) [17:48] tx. off to download [18:02] jonnyb: How do I update exactly? :) [18:03] once it's released there will be links to download the new version [18:04] * ricks99 installed fresh 5.1.pre on wamp (win vista) - no issues :-) [18:04] :) [18:05] Isn't it already released? :s [18:05] no, that's what we're doing now [18:05] * ricks99 tested upgrade from 5.0 to 5.1.1pre on wamp (win vista) - no issues, 'cept the cryptic "character set warning" [18:06] * ricks99 hopes that some one can provide a detailed explaination in the release noes for 5.1 [18:06] yes, it needs translating (into something humanly readable) [18:06] @jonnyb: seems good so far. will check deeper with specific features [18:07] ok, going for the tag (thing) [18:07] Ahhh [18:07] Thought 5.1 was the new one [18:07] it will be soon - in an hour or so [18:07] @Skyrdr: 5.1 is being released today [18:09] * ricks99 wonders why we dont trim the changelog at major releases. [18:09] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28378 10/branches/5.x/doc/devtools/release.php: [REL] Nasty workaround for a possible bug in tiki-mods.tpl - not important so skip the check on that file [18:09] it's the copyright one that needs looking at, i think [18:10] changelog.txt is 3.5 MB [18:10] yes, you're right [18:10] covers 0.9 thru 5.1 [18:11] it's the copyright that takes 15 minutes to generate [18:11] right [18:11] something to think about for 6, maybe [18:11] both should be a summary and a link to the right list on sf.net [18:13] but for both, shouldnt they be only for the specific major release? [18:13] a person who committed a cvs item for 1.9, they don't/shouldn't automatically be a copyright holder for 5.1? [18:14] maybe back to last LTS? how big would that be i wonder [18:14] yay! doing the tag thing! [18:14] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28379 10/tags/5.1/: [REL] Tagging release [18:14] woo hoo [18:14] packages ahoy! [18:15] * ricks99 has his finger on the SEND button to post news items for the release :-) [18:15] * jonnyb thinks his upload speed isn't great for tiki releases [18:17] 1mb u/l ftw [18:22] *** Andurino has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:23] the tarballs are on their way [18:28] hi ricks99. projects usually have a changelog file covering the whole history. but sometimes there are different files covering only the changes in one release. [18:28] i've tested the zip (it'll take longest to up) [18:28] all seems fine [18:29] @chealer: right, it needs to be available. but it seems to me we could save space by including on the last major release with each zip [18:29] example of a partial changelog: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.35 [18:29] * ricks99 just waiting for jonnyb to say "go" [18:29] go go gadget? [18:29] little one's there - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.tar.bz2 [18:35] ricks99: I don't remember seeing a partial changelog shipping in a distribution. I don't see much benefit neither (compared to having no changelog) [18:38] at last! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1927369/tiki5.1/tiki-5.1.tar.gz [18:40] i'm pretty confident all these tarballs are the same, so i'll start uploading to sf.net [18:41] * ricks99 playing with a new and an upgraded 5.1. no issues so far. looks good [18:41] * jonnyb is also quite bored [18:46] i just went to http://sf.net/projects/tiki by mistake... [18:46] seems dormant? [18:50] it does [18:50] last file updates 2002 [18:51] maybe its just *very* stable :) [18:52] :D [18:54] about 10 minutes to go (allegedly) [18:59] success: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5.1/tiki-5.1/ [19:00] smashin! [19:00] ok, we're released! [19:00] https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki%205.x%20-Vulpeculae-/ [19:02] only 5 hours that time! :) [19:03] nice job [19:03] i believe it used to take 5 days, so this is progress! [19:05] thanks for the help guys - good luck ricks99 with the promotion ;) [19:11] Info: Tiki 5.1 Now Available - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article103-Tiki-5-1-Now-Available [19:12] well done bot ;) [19:15] thank you jonnyb and ricks99 [19:15] is somebody taking care of stable.version ? [19:16] i think that's an Oliver/changi thing [19:16] i don't have a login (luckily! :D) [19:21] re-polom [19:22] congrats for the release jonny ! [19:22] hope it's ok [19:22] ok, i will :D [19:25] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28380 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Prefs: wiki_edit_icons_toggle on by default for a cleaner first impression on first clean install. [19:34] is the find feature in file galleries optional ? [19:35] can't find where to disable it [19:37] 5.1 annoucements are going out.. good work all [19:38] * jonnyb is wishing he hadn't remembered to do a last merge from 5.x to trunk [19:41] jonnyb: why? [19:41] svn property conflict [19:41] my first one! (i didn't cause it tho) [19:43] coo - svn resolve --accept=mine-full lib seems to have done it! [19:44] New Forum Posts: Tiki 5.1 Now Available - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1&comments_parentId=38012 [19:44] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28381 10/trunk/ (9 files in 4 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/5.x 28273 to 28378 [19:45] *** Skyrdr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:49] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get more help: Tiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org and Tiki Essentials http://twessentials.keycontent.org) [19:57] is there any way to switch to use ImageMAgick, if there are both installed on the server ??? [19:57] both i mean GD and ImageMagick php support [19:58] (want to try if ImageMageick can rotate images in file gals/image gals) [20:01] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r28382 10/trunk/lib/init/initlib.php: remove obsolete pathSeparator() (unused) [20:02] not sure luciash - it's almost certainly hackable somewhere [20:04] thought so :) [20:05] and i expect it to be broken too as nobody seems to use it actually (ImageMagick instead of GD) when there is no easy switch [20:05] figures [20:05] can't rapheal.js do it? ;) [20:07] luciash: for image galleries it can be set in the admin panel [20:08] oh, really ? [20:08] jonnyb: yes, but how to save it ? [20:09] webdav? [20:09] mmm :/ [20:11] chealer: it says something like Imagick 0: Undetected. [20:11] luciash: yes, setting "Library to use for processing images". [20:11] luciash: right. it only supports imagick 0 [20:12] huh ? really ? :| [20:12] there's already imagick 2.3.0 on the server according to phpinfo [20:12] luciash: yeah, well GD is the default [20:13] i will try, maybe it is just broken detection [20:13] luciash: well which imagick version do you have? [20:13] chealer: everybody knows GD is the default [20:14] chealer: about the version see 5 lines above [20:14] luciash: oh. so yeah, that's your "problem". [20:15] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28383 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [20:15] tikiwiki: [MOD] Custom CSS: Move the brosho test link next to the right pref, and give it it's own tab, as it will need more room soon. [20:15] tikiwiki: (TODO admin/look/misc is an odd place for header_custom_js to remain but i can't find a better one now) [20:17] jonnyb: maybe we'll need to introduce new admin page called "Custom Code" soon an move it there [20:17] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:17] yes, look is a muddle [20:18] all the jq stuff should be elsewhere too [20:18] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [20:19] jonnyb: or Look & Feel could be renamed to Customize [20:20] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:20] * luciash just tried the Imagick as graphic library, no difference to GD [20:20] just works [20:20] but no extra option to rotate images or else [20:21] maybe the option is not present in the tpls anymore ? [20:25] luciash: l&f is more friendly i think, and there is a lot of looking and feeling to do in tiki [20:25] ah, no, it seems to be broken, it switched back to GD automagically [20:25] :) [20:25] jonnyb: no objections as i introduced it [20:26] :) [20:26] it would just describe more accurately what it does mostly now [20:26] * jonnyb wonders how we managed before it [20:26] well, most of the jquery stuff is "feel" i think [20:29] ok, i meant the code textareas and theme/look customization [20:33] maybe just their own tab? [20:33] (and shorter tab labels) [20:34] btw Image Galleries seems to win over File Galleries still in the Colorbox - Image Gals support displaying of the description / name of the image in the Colorbox, where File Gals do not [20:35] (just tested) [20:35] jonnyb: yes, shorter is better for tabs [20:35] odd [20:35] should be fairly simple to copy how [20:35] i thinks so too [20:39] *** Skyrdt has joined #tikiwiki [20:39] Man [20:39] I start to hate Filezilla [20:39] All it does is use the max u/l speed and screwing up my connection [20:39] losing the net [20:39] Skyrdt: wrong channel ;) [20:40] I know [20:40] Im just making a point [20:40] :p [20:40] If you have any other FTP software to share, feel free to tell me. [20:40] Im making a point as I was uploading the new tikiwiki [20:40] Through filezilla [20:40] he knows ;) [20:40] was OS are you on Skyrdt ? [20:41] w7 [20:41] Skyrdt: try ftp addon for firefox [20:41] Skyrdt: fireftp [20:41] Mm, never tried those before [20:41] Skyrdt: looks like full featured ftp client [20:42] thats odd [20:42] Trying to update my tikiwiki [20:42] but the installer folder gives a 403 [20:42] Skyrdt: and has synchronize option iirc [20:43] neat [20:43] Is it normal for file overwrites to change the ways pictures behaves? [20:43] The main page was a thumb images (resized), but ever since I uploaded the 5.1 files, it changed to full size [20:45] hmm, not normal [20:46] try tiki-admin_system.php?do=all [20:46] *** eromneg has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:50] http://wiki.esforces.com/tiki-index.php [20:50] Do you see a big image luciash ? [20:51] *** Skyrdt is now known as Skyrdr [20:51] yes [20:51] The image has been set to thumbnail with a max size of 600 [20:51] yet it keeps showing the large image [20:51] I just double checked [20:51] the cache doesn't seem to work [20:52] Doesn't matter what I fill in, it ignores the settings I put in [20:52] is it image gal or file gal picture ? [20:53] ah, it seems none of them, just image uploaded via wiki page in a dir, right ? [20:54] I simple use the "add image" by url in the navbar when editing the page.. using {img src=" [20:54] It worked fine on 5.0, it started to ignore it when I uploaded the new files [20:55] hmm, strange, i am not aware of any changes for the img plugin between 5.0 and 5.1 [20:55] maybe someone else will know [20:55] Full cmd: {img src="http://www.esforces.com/uploads/images/potw/fire-the-big-laz0r.jpg" thumb="mouseover" max="100"} [20:56] try thumb="y" [20:57] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [20:57] It was originally thumb y but doesnt work either [20:58] ah [20:59] {img src="http://www.esforces.com/uploads/images/potw/fire-the-big-laz0r.jpg" thumb="y" height="600" width="600" max="600"} [20:59] doesnt work either [20:59] it fully ignores the new height/width settings [21:05] Skyrdr: is your .htaccess up to date? (if you have one) [21:06] probably not connected actually [21:08] up to date? [21:08] Lets see [21:08] compared to _htaccess [21:09] but you're linking to "normal" files [21:09] * luciash just realized there are severe floods in czech republic again since yesterday [21:09] I just renamed _htaccess to .htaccess [21:09] sometimes updates break the sefurl stuff on filegals [21:09] doesnt seem to effect the image [21:10] did you run setup.sh? (sorry if covered before) [21:11] hmm, looks like a bug [21:11] there's no width or height being written to the tag (again) [21:12] luciash: hum. how did you manage to set it to Imagick 0? [21:13] Skyrdr: i think you'll have to resize the image for now - it's kinder anyway ;) [21:13] we'll have to fix for 5.2 [21:14] grmbl, seems "Rebuild thumbnails" is not good idea in 5.x Image Galleries (might it be related to the Skyrdr's problem ?) - now i can't get the thumbnails back, displays full images instead too :( [21:15] only re-uploading the image works [21:17] actually deleting and uploading again, hmm [21:22] *sad face* [21:23] but you're not using image or file galleries are you Skyrdr ? [21:23] not atm, just installed tikiwiki last week [21:27] chealer: nope [21:28] luciash / jonnyb [21:28] When I edit a user module, and save it [21:28] and I renamed the title, etc.. should it create a whole new module [21:28] ? [21:28] As that does for me [21:29] sounds possible [21:29] for name, probably not title (i would think) [21:30] It seems when I edit a user module and change the name [21:31] it creates a whole new user module. [21:31] with that name, and leaves the old one intact. [21:40] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [21:41] actually nothing helps... the thumbnails in my image galleries do not work anymore no matter what i re-set [21:41] :( [21:45] thanks for the release guys [21:45] no probs sylvieg [21:46] next time I will have to do ... [21:46] sounds like there might be a problem with the img plugin (again) [21:46] what is it simple and not to risky? [21:46] no, hopefully changi will be back :) [21:47] don't know - sounds like if you specify src it doesn't use the height & width params you asked for in the tag [21:47] btw I discovered that the plugin img with border does not work with url - the width is only calculated for local path [21:47] i fixed it last time ;) [21:48] also i thing if you ask for centred it goes weird [21:48] someone's been messing with it [21:48] * jonnyb hopes it wasn't him [21:48] for instance src=dl5&display=y will nto work [21:48] no, the plugin params [21:51] mmm [21:51] *** rotterdam|busy has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:52] Should I go back to 5.0 to avoid the img problem? ^^ [21:54] thumb="y" height="600" width="600"?? why do you put thumb and width [21:54] seems to me a little bit conflicting [21:54] Skyrdr: you can just try to replace the lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_img.php with the version from Tiki 5.0 [21:56] sylvieg: I think both to see if it works [21:56] *tried [21:56] *** kira has joined #tikiwiki [21:56] *** kira is now known as Guest65596 [21:57] *** Guest65596 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:57] *** rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki [22:00] Sorry luciash [22:00] Doesnt work [22:01] the wikiplugin_img seems to be exactly the same filesize as 5.0 [22:01] *5.1 I mean [22:01] weird it worked for you in 5.0 then, must be some lib probably [22:01] modified [22:02] this works for me {img fileId=25 width=100} [22:03] Skyrdr: did you clear teh browser cache [22:03] sylvieg: but it does no thumbnail generation, just hard-resize [22:04] sylvieg: and src= is different, no file gal image [22:04] luciash: need to catch your problem... was just coming in [22:04] src is buggy [22:05] sylvieg: my problem is different - image galleries thumbnails stopped to work after hitting "rebuild thumbnails" [22:05] Yes sylvieg. [22:05] No changes [22:06] but luciash did you change from gd to imageclick - trying to read all irc [22:07] the mess with images - is browser cache .. sometimes going away a day is enough to fix the problem.... [22:08] sylvieg: yes, but it didn't work really... it changed back to GD [22:08] i cleared all the caches several times [22:08] now i deleted the gallery as a whole and trying with new gallery [22:09] still the thumbnails are not generated as expected in the new gallery, weird :( [22:10] they show up as full size copy of the image uploaded [22:11] I have the same problem here - thumbnail size does not seem to be considered [22:11] image code is so old.. [22:12] weird is it worked with the default 80x80 thumbnail size until i tried to change and hit rebuild thumbnails :-/ [22:12] it's fresh Tiki 5.0 install [22:13] i will try with 5.1 later soon i guess [22:17] I am testing in trunk and it is not working [22:21] :( [22:22] to many bugs for a week end - weed ends are supposed to be fun ... [22:25] every day is supposed to be fun! :D [22:26] :) [22:27] sylvieg: tried fresh new gallery after re-setting all the custom sizes in Image gals admin to none and it works again [22:49] yeah, rebuild thumbnails is broken [22:49] night [22:50] *** Skyrdr has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [22:50] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28384 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [ENH] Brosho: More on custom CSS assistant. Now closable and copies changes to the DOM into the pref box [23:07] * luciash thinks more and more that the all-in-one file galleries approach wasn't that good idea for its complexity and performance issues [23:10] maybe better would be to focus to support features by purpose/media (image gals, video gals, audio gals, other files gals) than to make huge conditions and try to serve all in one ? [23:14] or would it be any better to focus on fixing trackers code and then to create custom trackers which would use *only* specific fields needed by the media/file type to create galleries + custom plugin aliases and apply them by profiles [23:14] ? [23:16] i am not sure file galleries can itself cover all purpose needs and be performance wise and error prone enough at the same time [23:16] no, i would rather go the other way - add a file attribute available to any tiki object [23:17] and sort filegals out (ha ha) [23:17] files are so important all over the place [23:18] u mean like custom fields for any tiki object (including file gals ?) ? [23:18] or tracker field hooks in other words [23:18] no, that would be too recursive! [23:18] heh [23:19] i can imagine that ! *g* [23:19] so any object can have a (or some) file(s) [23:19] like every object could "have" trackers [23:20] probaly not for 6 tho :( [23:20] i mean what if any tiki feature (object) could be linked to any tracker field and handle that ? [23:20] tracker item, i would think [23:20] or, re-use that [23:20] collections of objects have trackers [23:20] like calendars [23:22] it would be also great if any tiki object could use standard tpls or wiki page templates a la pretty trackers ;) [23:22] then we could say pretty file galleries ;) [23:23] or pretty gals for short ;) geeee :D [23:25] sounds expensive [23:26] i'd like to rewrite pretty trackers in php for a start [23:26] in manpower, money or performance ? [23:26] performance [23:27] actually doing it would require manpower [23:27] hmm :) [23:27] pretty trackers are not php now ? [23:28] no, it ends up in a horrid smarty tpl [23:29] tracker_pretty_item.tpl should all be native php (for instance) [23:30] but also tracker_item_field_value.tpl and the other one [23:30] they already are in trklib [23:30] eh, never seen that file [23:30] moslty [23:31] tracker_pretty_item.tpl i mean [23:31] ^mostly [23:31] so the wiki tpl is included in a tpl that is included... etc [23:32] lots of ram [23:32] it would be great if we could actually measure some performance improvements e.g. on a dedicated metrics.tw.o [23:33] it is all just too virtual for me and i don't see much difference in terms of performance compared to older tiki versions like 4.x or 3.x [23:34] it's always been like this [23:34] yes [23:35] the tracker code is so scary no one wants to work in there [23:35] * jonnyb contemplates starting a union [23:35] all php files which has more than 1000 lines of code are too scary for me ;) [23:36] technically true, i think - but that's most of tiki [23:37] we lack some limits ;) [23:37] *** rotterdam is now known as rotterdam|away [23:38] or fourth rule: make it readable :-p [23:38] (by humans) [23:38] :D [23:46] sounds tricky [23:50] just joking [23:50] * jonnyb laughs so much he has to go to bed :) [23:50] nn [23:51] *** jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: I am going outside... 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