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Needs advice/help. - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38016 [02:03] New Forum Posts: [solved] calendar module + tiki_p_view_calendar for anonymous = blank page - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=38013 [02:10] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [03:21] *** christian15213 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [05:04] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [05:22] *** rotterdam has quit IRC (Quit: Saindo) [06:25] *** ricks99_ has joined #tikiwiki [06:27] *** chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [06:27] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [07:18] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [07:18] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [07:40] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [08:04] *** brankom has joined #tikiwiki [08:05] Hi. Is there any kind of limitation for the length of title? Or something about using non-latin characters? (when I go throug the categories page, the links seem to be shortened a bit, which doesn't let me actually open the page, going through, for example, search, or through structures seems to work ok) [08:12] *** white|zzzzz has joined #tikiwiki [08:12] *** white|zzzzz is now known as JoernOtt [09:38] *** Andurino has joined #tikiwiki [09:46] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [09:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [09:47] polom [10:08] *** Andurino has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:11] morning [10:15] *** ricks99_ is now known as ricks99 [10:22] someone needs to change welcome message for this channel [10:22] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [10:26] *** rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki [10:29] *** rotterdam is now known as rotterdam|away [10:37] New Forum Posts: Can't assign menu to users + Rename url's - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=38020 [10:53] *** j0n3 has joined #tikiwiki [10:53] hi! [10:58] hi j0n3 [11:10] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [11:11] polom noon [11:11] as always (fighting with trackers): I have #1 "Departments" and #2 "Instructions for departments" tracker. On #2 I have item link with #1 (or null = All departments) [11:12] seems all the tw.o sites are down :( [11:13] using a template with a trackerlist to show #1, shows empty (non asigned instructions) well when viewing wiki page, but shows nothing when viewing tracker item [11:13] can I show trackerlist plugin on a template used to show tracker items? [11:19] j0n3: you mean when there's &itemId=42 the page is empty? [11:23] no [11:24] when viewing template as wiki page (no item viewing), trackerlist shows all non asigned Instructions well, but when viewing tracker item shows an empty list [11:24] {TRACKERLIST(trackerId="19",filterfield=119, test=0)}{TRACKERLIST} [11:26] I'm doing it wrong :S [11:27] what is the test parameter? [11:28] and if you have a filterfield you must have a filtervalue or exactvalue [11:36] well, it works on viewing template but not on tracker item [11:36] *** JoernOtt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:37] {TRACKERLIST(trackerId="19",filterfield="119",exactvalue="")}{TRACKERLIST} [11:38] it works the same: non asigned shown viewing template, and nothing viewing tracker item [11:38] *** j0n3 has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [11:38] *** j0n3 has joined #tikiwiki [11:54] are you doing recurring trackerlist? [11:54] with pretty tracker? [12:08] no [12:08] well [12:09] pretty tracker = wiki page as template for tracker item view? so yes [12:09] (no smarty tpl) [12:10] if you are not doing nested trackerlist the wiki/templates should not contain TRACKERLIST [12:10] on;y the original page [12:10] the template should contains {$f_xxx} etc... [12:11] i want to add a fixed tracker list.. static filtered [12:12] it should only show all items from an external tracker with a null field [12:12] As a curiosity, is it possible to use X.509 certificates for authenication, and LDAP backend for authorisation purposes? [12:12] (presumably using something like apache mod_ssl to authenticate users) [12:13] if you are doing nested trackerlist - goto to see the devel list about that - seems it does not always work [12:16] *** JoernOtt has joined #tikiwiki [12:16] hi JoernOtt [12:17] tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r28399 10/trunk/templates/blog_footer.tpl: [FIX] Close a tag for all cases [12:18] JoernOtt: I was just updating and see your new random page include plugin - did you consider adding the randomness as an option to the existing include plugin? [12:27] The random option would make the other options of the include plugin worthless [12:27] for example start/stop markers might be different in each page [12:27] i was wondering about that [12:28] so I thought, it might be more clear to end users to have two different plugins [12:28] yes, a tricky call - glad you had considered it (thought you would have) [12:28] instead of specifying a parameter which will be either ignored or overrides the others [12:29] just trying to keep the options down to stop people's heads exploding when they first see the list! :) [12:29] understandable [12:30] you did the new stuff in the quick edit module too recently, didn't you? [12:30] Carsten was looking at the list pages thingie for randomnes as well but I believe adding a param there would be obscuring when someone is looking for "random" [12:30] yes [12:31] Carsten|coaboa and his people are paying me for a lot of things they wanted :-) [12:32] i have meant to KIL that one - i refactored all the code into mod-func-search for tiki 5(it does what quick-edit, search-box and search_wiki_page did) [12:32] unfortunately i never got round to the db update script to switch everyone's modules to use the same new one... [12:32] oops! [12:34] and by the look of the code now, quick edit probably should now stay it's own stand-alone thing (before it was very simple) [12:35] their idea was to allow a quick copy/paste from for example a text processor which will be appended to an existing page or becomes the content of the newly created page + set a category and set the description [12:36] to make it easy for people to contribute to the wiki [12:36] sounds good, that's always a sticking point for wikis [12:36] on another topic... [12:36] sylvieg: (or anyone else maybe) - i'm doing this $jq to $ replacement, should i do the language files too, or not? [12:37] how uptodate is the dev site concerning this [12:38] As I am ajaxifying ther "Share this", I don't want to follow old xajax stuff if its going to be deprecated [12:38] xajax isn't going to be deprecated is it? (afaik) [12:38] ok [12:38] what needs adding is a clean way to do ajax in modules [12:38] there was a discussion on that on the dev list [12:38] and plugins... [12:39] yes, i faced that with an internal application as well [12:39] yes, xajax is over complicated but it does work - change links in tpls to {self_link}s and the page automatically uses ajax [12:40] jonnyb: ??? [12:40] mind you, share this doesn't really use the tiki does it? it posts via JS to the shar.es server i thought [12:40] hi sylvieg [12:41] i'm doing this $jq to $ replacement, should i do the language files too, or not? [12:41] sorry I do n ot understand [12:41] don't they get updated automatically via get_strings [12:42] i just remember there were issues about global text replacement in lang files - maybe not [12:42] why are you changing $jq to $ [12:42] because that's the standard for jQuery [12:42] if ther is some $jq in lang yes you must change because the translated part must change [12:42] we just used $jq for a while becasue mootools were there first [12:43] * sylvieg finds that $jq is easier to read in fact... [12:43] * JoernOtt finds that too [12:43] i've had two plugins not work properly due to this, and i'm pretty certain it was agreed at a fest (new york i think) that we should do this change [12:44] really? $jq easier to read? (i tohught i'd just got used to it like that!) [12:44] is $ the default then? [12:44] the rest of the jQuery world uses just $ [12:44] yup [12:44] ok, then we should change as well [12:44] so all examples and libs use just $ [12:44] i think we'll get used to it... [12:45] because it makes it easier to adapt to it [12:45] integrating third party stuff is far easier when sticking to the same rules [12:45] i've done the search/replace locally, so have it ready to commit - but it might be messy to roll it back afterwards [12:45] that's what i thought JoernOtt [12:46] in fact this new one brosho reports an error about $ [12:52] *** RavenC has joined #tikiwiki [12:53] hi everyone [12:53] hi RavenC [12:53] 5.1 !! I can't keep up! Grats to all! :) [12:54] that's a point - how do we change the message here? it still says *News!* Tiki 5.0 etc [12:55] sylvieg: as op you should be able to do that [12:56] if somebody knows the syntax [12:58] set topic #tikiwiki foo [12:58] also, need to remove 4.3 reference [13:03] I have unknown command [13:04] *** sylvieg changes topic to: #tikiwiki *News!* TIki 5.1, 3.6 (LTS) released!Wanna ask something? Just askWe log the channel @ http://irc.tikiwiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help or >help! to get some help from our bots ;) Enjoy! [13:04] * RavenC Cheers Sylvig! [13:05] *** sylvieg changes topic to: #tikiwiki *News!* TIki 5.1, 3.6 (LTS) released! Wanna ask something? Just ask. We log the channel @ http://irc.tikiwiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude message from log), type !help or >help! to get some help from our bots ;) Enjoy! [13:05] yay sylvieg! [13:09] *clap* [13:13] *** rotterdam|away is now known as rotterdam [13:16] agree with JoernOtt: stay mainstream in conventions unless a major reason to break those comes up. What's about a sourcecode documentation tool which allows t write docs while commenting the source edits? [13:16] *t/to [13:18] Jeorn mentioned phpdoc (right?) [13:19] hi coaboa - yes, phpdoc is used in tiki (occasionally) [13:20] by the way... big $jq coming in - take cover! [13:21] brb [13:22] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28400 10/trunk/ (144 files in 57 dirs): [13:22] tikiwiki: [MOD] Big commit, with (hopefully) no functional effect. [13:22] tikiwiki: Replace $jq with the jQuery standard $ as reference for the jQuery object. [13:22] tikiwiki: You will almost certainly need to clear your tiki and browser caches to clear out transitory JS errors. [13:26] with tw6 being the lts, is there going to be much else going on with 5.x until then? [13:30] hi RavenC - not by me. i'm flat out on stuff for 6 personally [13:30] me personal tryed to avoid th usage of 5.x as the utf8 problem seemed not to be resolved prior its release. Only used 5.x for test sites. [13:31] *the [13:31] i wouldn't expect a 5.2 (maybe a 5.1.1 if we can fix this wiki attachment bug) [13:32] ok, that is kind of what I thought. Iis there any pre-pre-pre alphas for 6 yet? ;) [13:32] * RavenC loves testing [13:34] trunk :D [13:36] as no one else seems to be volunteering i'll have a go at being release mangler for 6.0, and i'd like to leave the branching to 6.x late but brutal (e.g. i'll rollback non-genuine fixes) [13:36] in the meantime it would be nice if we can be very careful with trunk, so as many people can be testing already [13:39] (he says, having just globally search and replaced a var name over a hundred files!) [13:44] but now is the right time, another month until freeze and already many people testing means a good chance of spotting errors before freeze [13:46] that's what i'm hoping too - thanks :) [13:55] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [13:55] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28401 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [MOD] JS: Assign $jq to $ so legacy custom code will continue to work [13:55] hi [14:00] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28402 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]i18n: quick fix to custom language. Replace with text inputs [14:11] ok, warning of another multi-file change brewing - to change the textarea & toolbars "area_name" to "area_id" (as it really needs to be a unique id for any of this to work and the ambiguity is painful) [14:12] i'm contemplating doing this in an experimental branch, but then no one will test it... [14:13] maybe we should think of a $tikilib->getID function which can be used by every plugin/module [14:14] hmmm, looks to hairy i think (which is why i've been putting it off since 3.x!) - i'll go experimental [14:14] or a general naming convention [14:14] JoernOtt: it needs to be client side too - also mostly accessed from smarty tpls (for extra fun!) [14:14] like taId#### [14:15] will this also fix the problem of having 2 (or more) antibots on a single page? [14:15] yes, I had the problem with the wikiplugin_author [14:15] yes, that might help [14:15] JoernOtt: you need to have register your site on facebook to use the like it? [14:15] as each popup stuff needs its own ids [14:15] currently they all use the same