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brankom: Hi. Is there any kind of limitation for the length of title? Or something about using non-latin characters? (when I go throug the categories page, the links seem to be shortened a bit, which doesn't let me actually open the page, going through, for example, search, or through structures seems to work ok)
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coaboa: morning
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ricks99: someone needs to change welcome message for this channel
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j0n3: hi!
ricks99: hi j0n3
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jonnyb: polom noon
j0n3: as always (fighting with trackers): I have #1 "Departments" and #2 "Instructions for departments" tracker. On #2 I have item link with #1 (or null = All departments)
jonnyb: seems all the tw.o sites are down :(
j0n3: using a template with a trackerlist to show #1, shows empty (non asigned instructions) well when viewing wiki page, but shows nothing when viewing tracker item
can I show trackerlist plugin on a template used to show tracker items?
jonnyb: j0n3: you mean when there's &itemId=42 the page is empty?
j0n3: no
when viewing template as wiki page (no item viewing), trackerlist shows all non asigned Instructions well, but when viewing tracker item shows an empty list
{TRACKERLIST(trackerId="19",filterfield=119, test=0)}{TRACKERLIST}
I'm doing it wrong :S
sylvieg: what is the test parameter?
and if you have a filterfield you must have a filtervalue or exactvalue
j0n3: well, it works on viewing template but not on tracker item
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j0n3: {TRACKERLIST(trackerId="19",filterfield="119",exactvalue="")}{TRACKERLIST}
it works the same: non asigned shown viewing template, and nothing viewing tracker item
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sylvieg: are you doing recurring trackerlist?
with pretty tracker?
j0n3: no
well
pretty tracker = wiki page as template for tracker item view? so yes
(no smarty tpl)
sylvieg: if you are not doing nested trackerlist the wiki/templates should not contain TRACKERLIST
on;y the original page
the template should contains {$f_xxx} etc...
j0n3: i want to add a fixed tracker list.. static filtered
it should only show all items from an external tracker with a null field
brankom: As a curiosity, is it possible to use X.509 certificates for authenication, and LDAP backend for authorisation purposes?
(presumably using something like apache mod_ssl to authenticate users)
sylvieg: if you are doing nested trackerlist - goto to see the devel list about that - seems it does not always work
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jonnyb: hi JoernOtt
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r28399 10/trunk/templates/blog_footer.tpl: [FIX] Close a tag for all cases
jonnyb: JoernOtt: I was just updating and see your new random page include plugin - did you consider adding the randomness as an option to the existing include plugin?
JoernOtt: The random option would make the other options of the include plugin worthless
for example start/stop markers might be different in each page
jonnyb: i was wondering about that
JoernOtt: so I thought, it might be more clear to end users to have two different plugins
jonnyb: yes, a tricky call - glad you had considered it (thought you would have)
JoernOtt: instead of specifying a parameter which will be either ignored or overrides the others
jonnyb: just trying to keep the options down to stop people's heads exploding when they first see the list! :)
JoernOtt: understandable
jonnyb: you did the new stuff in the quick edit module too recently, didn't you?
JoernOtt: Carsten was looking at the list pages thingie for randomnes as well but I believe adding a param there would be obscuring when someone is looking for "random"
yes
Carsten|coaboa and his people are paying me for a lot of things they wanted :-)
jonnyb: i have meant to KIL that one - i refactored all the code into mod-func-search for tiki 5(it does what quick-edit, search-box and search_wiki_page did)
unfortunately i never got round to the db update script to switch everyone's modules to use the same new one...
oops!
and by the look of the code now, quick edit probably should now stay it's own stand-alone thing (before it was very simple)
JoernOtt: their idea was to allow a quick copy/paste from for example a text processor which will be appended to an existing page or becomes the content of the newly created page + set a category and set the description
to make it easy for people to contribute to the wiki
jonnyb: sounds good, that's always a sticking point for wikis
on another topic...
sylvieg: (or anyone else maybe) - i'm doing this $jq to $ replacement, should i do the language files too, or not?
JoernOtt: how uptodate is the dev site concerning this
As I am ajaxifying ther "Share this", I don't want to follow old xajax stuff if its going to be deprecated
jonnyb: xajax isn't going to be deprecated is it? (afaik)
JoernOtt: ok
jonnyb: what needs adding is a clean way to do ajax in modules
JoernOtt: there was a discussion on that on the dev list
jonnyb: and plugins...
JoernOtt: yes, i faced that with an internal application as well
jonnyb: yes, xajax is over complicated but it does work - change <a> links in tpls to {self_link}s and the page automatically uses ajax
sylvieg: jonnyb: ???
jonnyb: mind you, share this doesn't really use the tiki does it? it posts via JS to the shar.es server i thought
hi sylvieg
i'm doing this $jq to $ replacement, should i do the language files too, or not?
sylvieg: sorry I do n ot understand
jonnyb: don't they get updated automatically via get_strings
i just remember there were issues about global text replacement in lang files - maybe not
sylvieg: why are you changing $jq to $
jonnyb: because that's the standard for jQuery
sylvieg: if ther is some $jq in lang yes you must change because the translated part must change
jonnyb: we just used $jq for a while becasue mootools were there first
-: sylvieg finds that $jq is easier to read in fact...
JoernOtt finds that too
jonnyb: i've had two plugins not work properly due to this, and i'm pretty certain it was agreed at a fest (new york i think) that we should do this change
really? $jq easier to read? (i tohught i'd just got used to it like that!)
JoernOtt: is $ the default then?
jonnyb: the rest of the jQuery world uses just $
yup
JoernOtt: ok, then we should change as well
jonnyb: so all examples and libs use just $
i think we'll get used to it...
JoernOtt: because it makes it easier to adapt to it
integrating third party stuff is far easier when sticking to the same rules
jonnyb: i've done the search/replace locally, so have it ready to commit - but it might be messy to roll it back afterwards
that's what i thought JoernOtt
in fact this new one brosho reports an error about $
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RavenC: hi everyone
jonnyb: hi RavenC
RavenC: 5.1 !! I can't keep up! Grats to all! :)
jonnyb: that's a point - how do we change the message here? it still says *News!* Tiki 5.0 etc
JoernOtt: sylvieg: as op you should be able to do that
sylvieg: if somebody knows the syntax
ricks99: set topic #tikiwiki foo
also, need to remove 4.3 reference
sylvieg: I have unknown command
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-: RavenC Cheers Sylvig!
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jonnyb: yay sylvieg!
ricks99: *clap*
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coaboa: agree with JoernOtt: stay mainstream in conventions unless a major reason to break those comes up. What's about a sourcecode documentation tool which allows t write docs while commenting the source edits?
*t/to
Jeorn mentioned phpdoc (right?)
jonnyb: hi coaboa - yes, phpdoc is used in tiki (occasionally)
by the way... big $jq coming in - take cover!
brb
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28400 10/trunk/ (144 files in 57 dirs):
tikiwiki: [MOD] Big commit, with (hopefully) no functional effect.
tikiwiki: Replace $jq with the jQuery standard $ as reference for the jQuery object.
tikiwiki: You will almost certainly need to clear your tiki and browser caches to clear out transitory JS errors.
RavenC: with tw6 being the lts, is there going to be much else going on with 5.x until then?
jonnyb: hi RavenC - not by me. i'm flat out on stuff for 6 personally
coaboa: me personal tryed to avoid th usage of 5.x as the utf8 problem seemed not to be resolved prior its release. Only used 5.x for test sites.
*the
jonnyb: i wouldn't expect a 5.2 (maybe a 5.1.1 if we can fix this wiki attachment bug)
RavenC: ok, that is kind of what I thought. Iis there any pre-pre-pre alphas for 6 yet? ;)
-: RavenC loves testing
jonnyb: trunk :D
as no one else seems to be volunteering i'll have a go at being release mangler for 6.0, and i'd like to leave the branching to 6.x late but brutal (e.g. i'll rollback non-genuine fixes)
in the meantime it would be nice if we can be very careful with trunk, so as many people can be testing already
(he says, having just globally search and replaced a var name over a hundred files!)
JoernOtt: but now is the right time, another month until freeze and already many people testing means a good chance of spotting errors before freeze
jonnyb: that's what i'm hoping too - thanks :)
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CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28401 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [MOD] JS: Assign $jq to $ so legacy custom code will continue to work
fabricius: hi
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28402 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]i18n: quick fix to custom language. Replace with text inputs
jonnyb: ok, warning of another multi-file change brewing - to change the textarea & toolbars "area_name" to "area_id" (as it really needs to be a unique id for any of this to work and the ambiguity is painful)
i'm contemplating doing this in an experimental branch, but then no one will test it...
JoernOtt: maybe we should think of a $tikilib->getID function which can be used by every plugin/module
jonnyb: hmmm, looks to hairy i think (which is why i've been putting it off since 3.x!) - i'll go experimental
JoernOtt: or a general naming convention
jonnyb: JoernOtt: it needs to be client side too - also mostly accessed from smarty tpls (for extra fun!)
JoernOtt: like ta<Module>Id####
ricks99: will this also fix the problem of having 2 (or more) antibots on a single page?
JoernOtt: yes, I had the problem with the wikiplugin_author
jonnyb: yes, that might help
sylvieg: JoernOtt: you need to have register your site on facebook to use the like it?
JoernOtt: as each popup stuff needs its own ids
ricks99: currently they all use the same <label for-XX>
jonnyb: hi ricks99 - yes, hopefully
ricks99: sweet. tx
JoernOtt: sylvieg: yes, to retrieve an api key
sylvieg: :-(
JoernOtt: otherwise the user can't authorize the site to post for him without logging in every time
twitter does that as well
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JoernOtt: well, you can stick to the facebook fbxml stuff
if the user isn't logged in at facebook, he will be asked to log in, when clicking the button
ricks99: @JoernOtt: is ur FB implementaiton available on a public page? i'd e interested in seeing it live
sylvieg: yes but I does not want to register my site ... I can not have the like button
ricks99: and how this differs from simply using the JS
sylvieg: (for now I can not register - I am on my local)
JoernOtt: ricks: go to https://test.ott-consult.de:/trunk/
when you go to MyTiki->Socialnetworks, you can register the site once with fb/twitter usin oauth
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ricks99: tx
JoernOtt: and then you can use the shoutbox with twitter/fb
and you can use the share this button and post on your fb wall and like it as well
-: ricks99 cant find the LIKE button :(
JoernOtt: on each wiki page looking like the email this button
hint: top left
its not a LIKE button but "Share this page"
ricks99: i see nthing. is it available for anonymous?
JoernOtt: nope, for registered
ricks99: ahhh
JoernOtt: otherwise we can't use MyTiki to store a users tokens
ricks99: do u have a demo login?
JoernOtt: just register a user and use the site key "twitter"
a demo user would be a bit tricky, imagine someone authorizing it with twitter and facebook and everyone would post with his account
ricks99: passcode?
JoernOtt: twitter
ricks99: k
JoernOtt: you can become admin if you want to look at the admin stuff too
-: ricks99 the only thing worse than a captcha is a *backwards* captcha :)
sylvieg: I am on your site as simple user but can not share a page
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ricks99: still do nt see "SHARE" button
Kimberlee: hello all.
jonnyb: hi Kimberlee
JoernOtt: ricks99: below the black bar a little right of the menu
or the third of the buttons for a wiki page, "View Edit Icons", "Edit this page", "Share this page", ...
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sylvieg: JoernOtt: as a simple registered I can not see
I see on my local
ricks99: i have just watch, edit, and show edit plugins buttons
sylvieg: You do not have permission to use this feature: tiki_p_share
JoernOtt: k
added the perm to registered again
sylvieg: thx
JoernOtt: I did play a bit with different permissions on the weekend
ricks99: now i see it :)
sylvieg: but Authorize with facebook first
and to pu on my facebook wall - is it the same thatn like it /me does not know facebook
ricks99: now I see it in action
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ricks99: very nice
sylvieg: If I do not enter a recipients I have One of the email addresses you typed is invalid:
JoernOtt: but only as long as you set email to yes
maybe I should change the message
and/or do a javascript validation
sylvieg and I talked about a feature Group-Mail/Message which could be integrated into tiki to allow to send a mail/message to all members of a group. This could also be integrated into share this
jonnyb: JoernOtt: have a look at the jquery.validate library - it's pretty good
JoernOtt: jonnyb: will do
ricks99: @JoernOtt: could this be exgtended to let anonymous post comments & forum posts (with autho via FB or Twitter)?
JoernOtt: atm, anonymous can use the share this
but not with twitter/fb, only with the internal stuff
so the user can choose any forum he has access to
RavenC: Morning Kimberlee!
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JoernOtt: for twitter/fb there could be a central account
but then we have the problem that an anonymous user could use that to spam
and having an admin check through instant messages kind of negates the "instant"
what we could maybe do, is leave out the authorisation
so, if the user is already logged in on twitter/fb, the stuff will be sent, otherwise there will be a popup window where he must log in
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tikiwiki: [FIX] Brosho 3rd party lib - don't automatically create the brosho browser to give the user an option to run it or not.
tikiwiki: Will try and contact the author and feedback (eventually)
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RavenC: Dumb question # 45,162 v2: I want to display the logged in persons name in a wiki page... Like, Hello "User", how are you today? Where "User" is the logged in persons name
I cannot remember the syntax
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jonnyb: just {{user}} i think RavenC
there might be a pref you need to switch on too
ricks99: could use {$user} in a module or custom content areas
RavenC: just a wiki page...
found it... text-area Wiki Arguement variables... thanks
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28405 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] missing pref
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Freud_77: If I was to make a custom button for ckeditor in TW, how would i go about it? I need a button to insert a local link to a doc, that will show up in explorer, so i need to change every to /, which is boring...
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jonnyb: Freud_77: for ckeditor, or fckeditor?
Freud_77: U got me, I mean the wysiwyg, which one that is...
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Freud_77: I found the folder "dialog" which seems to contain the backside to the buttons...
RyanWPD: Hello all
Freud_77: Hi Ryan
RyanWPD: I've got a quick question - I'm having trouble getting into my template editor. I'm logged in as the site admin, but everything hangs when I hit the edit templates menu item
Any idea why?
jonnyb: Freud_77: currently it's fckeditor - i'm trying to upgrade it to ckeditor for tiki 6
chealer: polom
Freud_77: jonnyb could i copy one of the html files in fckeditor/dialog folder, rename it together with it's subfolder, and it would show up as a new button in admin panel for the editor, so I can enable it there? Or do I somehow need to register/index it somewhere else too?
jonnyb: look at the ones in fckeditor_tiki/plugins - they are ones "we" have added to it
tikilink is probably the simplest
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28406 10/trunk/templates/advanced_search_help.tpl: [MOD]search: more examples in the help
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jonnyb: am i right in thinking that (in trunk) the little green "insert plugin" icons in the blog post popup help dialog are already broken?
luciash: jonnyb: afaik they were removed from wiki toolbars and replaced by the help icon so i wonder ...
polom all, btw
jonnyb: hi luciash
yes, the ones in the popup help i mean
i think probably broken since 4.x
fixing in the new branch now :)
luciash: ah, you mean broken as in ...
they don't insert in the blog post textarea ?
jonnyb: just wanted to check i hadn't made things worse in my Monster:wysiwyg_ckeditor_update branch
-: jonnyb wonders where "Monster:" came from - ah, copied the wrong thing
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luciash: heh
chealer: jonnyb: apparently (clicking them just closes the Help dialog, JavaScript error "val is undefined")
jonnyb: yup, that's what i was getting
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jonnyb: it's because of this awful mixup between name and id's of textareas
which i'm now sorting out
ricks99: is there a proposed branch for 5.x yet?
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luciash: seems so ? or did you mean another branch jonnyb ?
jonnyb: hi ricks99 - no, and i'm not sure there will be one
luciash: "fixing in the new beanch now :)"
i thought you're refering to proposed
jonnyb: why not ?
jonnyb: luciash: in trunk, but just found something wrong in my experimental one, and wanted to check i hadn't caused it
ricks99: no proposed 5x. does that mean things can be safely backported int o 5x?
jonnyb: i'm working in /branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update
not sure ricks99
the quality team seems to have gone into stasis
and frankly i have too much to do for tiki 6 to worry about 5 much
i think if someone fixes the wiki attachment problem we should do a 5.1.1 as it's a bad one, but doing the proposals thing is just too much overhead
luciash: wiki attachment problem ? i thought it was fixed long time ago and doing the utf-8 fix should fix it too, nope ?
jonnyb: no, seems to be broken on doc.tw.o (or was it dev?)
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luciash: or was it fixed just in trunk and never backported to 5 ?
chealer: dev I think
luciash: but that one has still db in latin1, isn't it ?
ricks99: still lots of encoding issues on dev.tw.o
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luciash: rodrigo_sampaio: pong :)
rodrigo_sampaio: luciash: I was going to ask you something about tiki-edit_languages.php but I changed my mind and the question does not make sense anymore :)
luciash: rodrigo_sampaio: ok, np :)
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tikiwiki: [FIX] Help: List plugins correctly for current $areaName (actually id)
tikiwiki: Fixes broken plugin insert icons on help/plugins on blog post for
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28410 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/ (. lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 28406 to 28409
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28411 10/trunk/lang/pt-br/language.php: fixing string in pt-br language.php
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tikiwiki: changes to tiki-edit_languages.php:
tikiwiki: - display not if not language available to edit or export
tikiwiki: - input text disabled for the original string
tikiwiki: - remove button 'write to custom.php'
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tikiwiki: [bp/r28407][KIL] Remove redundant textareasize.* (replaced by resize toolbar buttons in Tiki 4.0, and resizable textareas in Tiki 5.0)
tikiwiki: Backported from branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update - seems safe - clearing the decks.
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sylvieg: did someone succeeded to send a newsletter with plugin that must be approved
jonnyb: sorry sylvieg - not tried it
sylvieg: validatiojn buttom seems not to keep the context...
jonnyb: if it's not been approved then it shouldn't work - should it?
sylvieg: In fact I approved but for the next step it .lost the context nlId, text...
strange that nobody complained ...
jonnyb: do you mean it's plugin approval, or some newsletter approval?
sylvieg: if a newsletter contains a plugin that needs approval - this newsletter can not be sent
jonnyb: oh right - both then :D
can't you approve it first?
sylvieg: pfff... the plugin validation uses only $smarty.server.REQUEST_URI ..... bad...
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SEWilco2: How can I include external RSS feeds in TW RSS feed? I have Wiki page with some external RSS feeds, but I think when the external data changes that won't be reflected in the Wiki RSS feed (because the page hasn't been edited).
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Walrus23: help
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Walrus23: my image gallery won't let me get rid of the categories thing
i want it to just show the image name and description and it is being a total pain in the but
sylvieg: desativate the categories feature if you do not need it somewhere else
Walrus23: ugh
i tred that
sylvieg: ypu can probably do a css rule to hide the div only for image too
Walrus23: what is happening, i can disable the categories thing, but if i tell it to add the descrption, the categories thing comes up and the description does not
it is really annoying tbh
sylvieg: when uploading or browsing?
Walrus23: i'm going edit gallery
http://kicked.heliohost.org/home then click on the crew
that's the gallery
it's using i think tikiwiki version 3.3
and it's not doing the job at all
sylvieg: I think there is a config somewhere because 1 hour ago I went on a tiki3 with img and I did not notice this problem
Walrus23: yesh there must be something funky in my config
i'll fix it later methinks
thanks for your help
hang on, i'm going to mIRC
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sylvieg: and I was debugging his problem :-(
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Walrus23: 0312'03scuse that12,03 i needed to get off the connection i was using
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sylvieg: Walrus23: and when edit the gal, the categories checkbox is unckecked?
Walrus23: 03i uncheck it and it re checks itself and unchecks the other options
sylvieg: I think I see the bug - 1 mn
the bug is still there
in tikki5
Walrus23: 03is it12?03
03how do i squash it12?03
sylvieg: I found it
Walrus23: 03another bug 12-03 my e12-03mails are not being sent for user registration
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28416 10/trunk/lib/imagegals/imagegallib.php: [FIX]imgal: descrption and categs are switcvhed around
sylvieg: for you problem ... just in edit galeery think that description checkbox is categs check box and vice versa
Walrus23: 03hmm
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Walrus23: 03hmm
03well12,03 the only problem now is my email system which i think has something to do with my webhost
03is there a way to resend the email validations12?03
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28417 10/branches/proposals/3.x/lib/imagegals/imagegallib.php: [bp/r 28416][FIX]imgal: descrption and categs are switcvhed around
sylvieg: in release 5 - yes
bbl I have to move
Walrus23: 03i got my system from fantastico 12-03 i prefer the 08LTS03 system
sylvieg: so for you rproblem cheched categories and unchecked description when editing the imggal ... and you will switch back when upgrading
bbl
Walrus23: 03thanks
SEWilco2: In 5.0beta2, my externally-imported RSS feed is showing only links to my own site rather than links to the external items. The feed's header does link out, but each item within the feed links only to my homepage.
Walrus23: 03uhm12,03 where is the page to manipulate the email sender for validation of user registration12?03
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jonnyb: Walrus23: admin/general?
Walrus23: 03admin
03well12,03 when one of my users registers they get 08T03he registration mail can12'03t be sent12.03 08C03ontact the administrator 12..03
0312--------------------------------------------------------------------------------03
0312..03
03that was a copy12/03paste12,03 sorry
jonnyb: tiki-admin.php?page=general
Walrus23: 03i don12'03t understand how it can use the email system without me giving the authentication information to the 08CMS03
jonnyb: it's a server setup thing - maybe it's not set up?
it usually is
check the "Sender email" in admin/general is valid
Walrus23: 03i know i12'03ve got the mail set up and everything
jonnyb: or try the test in the installer?
Walrus23: 03i set up the mail account in c08P03anel12,03 and it has sent them properly before
03huh12?03
jonnyb: tiki-install.php
Joern|afk: Walrus23: Do you use SMTP or sendmail
in your email settings
there is a bug in SMTP
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Walrus23: 03iono
03my class is about to end12,03 i12'03ll have to go
03back in 121003 or so minutes
JoernOtt: on admin/general
there is a setting "Mail sender"
if it is sendmail, things should work
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jonnyb: bug in trunk still JoernOtt ?
i did loads of them a while back
Walrus23: 03i don12'03t see either sendmail or 08SMTP03
03hang on12,03 i need to moe to my next class 12-03 at university
03move12*03
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JoernOtt: jonnyb, yes
my exim reports a syntax error in the EHLO line
but i did not find the time to fix it yet
was planning it for the weekend but I spent the time with friends and my brothers children instead
jonnyb: hmm, sounds grim - any chance you can fix it while you're nearby?
ah, much better idea! :D
JoernOtt: we should merge the diffrent mail stuff to one zend class
jonnyb: glad you're on it (and onboard)
yes please!
JoernOtt: sylvieg told me that there is some new zend stuff in one place and some old stuff in webmail etc
jonnyb: undoubtedly - it's about 50% done i i think (maybe 60%)
JoernOtt: hehe, I developed a SMTP proxy some time ago, so I should still remember most of the RFC
But tomorrow and maybe wednesday I will have to finish another project first.
chealer: hi JoernOtt
JoernOtt: hi chealer
you are Filipus, aren't you?
chealer: regarding the quick edit sentence, the formulation you propose is fine
JoernOtt: ok
chealer: :-)
jonnyb: sounds good - lots of people need it
JoernOtt: for a non-native speaker it is always a difficult thing to find a short and precise description
I will do the commit tomorrow, it is already late and I am a bit tired
chealer: JoernOtt: English is my second language, I know it's complicated
JoernOtt: jonnyb, The email thing will probably be ready by sat/sun, depending on the existing code quality
chealer: even though I think it's the easiest natural language to learn for me
no hurry
JoernOtt: chealer: Only the false friends and some typical thin gs in grammar
jonnyb: that would probably be monday then ;)
that's why we do the 'fests
JoernOtt: I will go to Berlin
jonnyb: i can almost speak french sometimes
i hope i can go - can't commit now
JoernOtt: well, my french is a bit rusty now, my little brother is far better than me, he worked in northern france, so he is practically a Sch'ti
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jonnyb: :)
PoisonDart: 03i12'03m back
03have the thought juices been flowing12?03
JoernOtt: Walrus, isn't it
PoisonDart: 03yep
03this is my default nick
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JoernOtt: go to the Admin page
click on the "General" icon
on the first tab, there is a fieldset labelled "Mail"
The thirs option in there is "Mail sender"
Walrus23: 03um12,03 no there isn12'03t
03tikiwiki version 123.303
JoernOtt: ok
have to find a site with a version that old
Walrus23: 03lol
JoernOtt: the oldest I have here is 4.2
Walrus23: 03hmm
JoernOtt: do you have teamviewer or some way for me to look at the admin page?
Walrus23: 03i can screencap12,03 i12'03m using mobile broadband 12-03 teamviewer is not a good idea
JoernOtt: k
I just downloaded a 3.3
so I can look at the source
jonnyb: Walrus23: are you trying to get smtp mail working in tiki 3.3?
JoernOtt: he only wants mail
no mater how
*matter
Walrus23: 03yeah
jonnyb: ok, it sends mails ok
Walrus23: 03it12'03s only for email verification
03lol
jonnyb: usually
;)
Walrus23: 03but in tiki12_03install12.03php it gave me an error
03told me to reiew the php12.03cfg i think
jonnyb: wow, you sure?
JoernOtt: if you have access to the protocols of the mail server, you might see the cause for the error
Walrus23: 0308R03eview the mail settings in your php12.03ini file 12(03for example12:03 confirm that the sendmail12_03path is correct12).03 08I03f your host requires 08SMTP03 authentication12,03 additional configuration may be necessary12.03
03hmm
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JoernOtt: I had a mx once where someone blocked localhost on port 25
jonnyb: me2
JoernOtt: that kills most php mail stuff most efficiently
sadly it also killed the useful stuff
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JoernOtt: walrus: Create a php file with <?php print_r(mail('your@email.com', 'Testmail', 'Just a test')); and call that file either form a browser or the command line php
PoisonDart: 03whoops
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PoisonDart: 03uhh12,03 mind12=03blank
JoernOtt: well, I am off to bed
nn
PoisonDart: 03could it be that i have no php12.03ini file12?03
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white|zzzzzzzz: depending on the os, it is in /etc or /etc/php5/apache2/ or so
just do a find /etc -iname php.ini
PoisonDart: 03i dont have shell access
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PoisonDart: 03meh i12'03ll do it later
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CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28418 10/trunk/lib/fckeditor_tiki/plugins/tikilink/templates/fck_tikilink.tpl: [FIX] Probably redundant but removing incorrect call to getElementById()
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PoisonDart: 03am back
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Walrus23: 03is there a reason why i dont see a mail cluster in general 12>03 admin12?03
03other way round
03admin 12>03 general
03sorry
jonnyb: v3.3?
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28419 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/ (24 files in 7 dirs):
tikiwiki: [MOD][KIL][FIX] textareas: Replace area_name throughout with area_id becasue it should be, and remove JS function getElementById then mend most places where things broke.
tikiwiki: Also implement jQuery optimisations in a few places.
jonnyb: should be around there somewhere
luciash: it wasn't supported in versions prior to 4.x
Walrus23: 03o
03so what can i do then12?03
jonnyb: or not ;) thx luciash
luciash: only system mailer way was supported in older versions
Walrus23: 03and where is hte admin for that12?03
jonnyb: off2bed
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Walrus23: 03i don12'03t care what i use12,03 as long as it works
luciash: you need to ask your hosting provider if it supports php mail function via sendmail or postfix or whatever they use
Walrus23: 03hmm
luciash: or upgrade tiki
Walrus23: 0312O.O03
03upgrade tiki12!!?03
03that severs my database doesnt it12?03
luciash: most hostings allow sending mail via php from cms, but if you need smtp, you need at least 4.x
nope, db upgrade is mostly safe via tiki-install.php (but always better to back up)
you can ask them first about your mail problem first before you upgrade
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luciash: maybe they allow local php.ini per user instead of the system one
or they can offer another solution
Walrus23: 03yeah
03i12'03m with heliohost12,03 i12'03ll have to post on the forum
luciash: ok, i don't know this one
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CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28420 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] textareas: missed one