<!-- Some styling for better description lists --><style type='text/css'>dt { font-weight: bold;float: left;display:inline;margin-right: 1em} dd { display:block; margin-left: 2em}</style> ***: Walrus23 has quit IRC () <br> rotterdam|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) <br> Andurino has left <br> Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie <br> coaboa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) <br> coaboa has joined #tikiwiki <br> coaboa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) <br> coaboa has joined #tikiwiki <br> Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping <br> goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki <br> goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) <br> goj|ghost is now known as goj <br> Kimberlee has quit IRC () <br> chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) <br> chealer has joined #tikiwiki <br> ChefTim has joined #tikiwiki ChefTim: Hi. Having a permissions problem. The create new wiki page isn't showing up for registered users in the menu. Checked menu permissions and wiki permissions. Wiki_p_view and wiki_p_edit is set. Not sure where else to look to get this to show for registered users. ***: chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: <u>ChefTim</u>: The wiki-related permissions are tiki_p_view, etc. Was 'Wiki_p_view' a typo, in your message here? ChefTim: yes I meant tiki :) <br> the menu option I am referring to links to http://site/tiki-listpages.php?cookietab=2#tab2 chibaguy: And the menu item doesn't display for registered users? ChefTim: only for admin <br> even if I go directly to the link, via address bar, it only lists pages but not the create new page tab <br> with a registered user that is chibaguy: Can registered users access http://site/tiki-listpages.php?cookietab=2#tab2 directly? ChefTim: I have been stumbling around for a while learning things so I imagine I changed a setting somewhere that affects this. I am having a hard time finding what I did to break it. chibaguy: Hmm, looking at the wiki-related permissions, seems like you've set the ones you need, already. <br> Can registered users access http://site/tiki-listpages.php ? ChefTim: thats what I thought. Would changing the name of the menu item affect it? I changed it to "Add a new article" chibaguy: No, changing the name shouldn't make a difference. ChefTim: Yes registered can access that page. No option for adding new wiki page chibaguy: What version of Tiki is this? ChefTim: 5 chibaguy: The code in tiki-listpages.tpl says "{if $tiki_p_edit == 'y'}"then show tab2.... <br> so with that permission, the user should see the tab. ChefTim: I haven't touched any of the .tpl pages yet <br> err files chibaguy: I don't know what to suggest other than double-checking the permissions for the registered group. <br> Can a Registered user make a new wiki page with a url like http://site/tiki-editpage.php?page=NewPage ? ChefTim: one moment <br> yes chibaguy: Well, I just tested at a Tiki 5.0 site, logged in as a Registered user, and could access tab2. ChefTim: just double checked permissions tiki_p_view is set to anonymouse and tiki_p_edit is set to registered <br> could it have to do with me creating a "system" category and making those only editable by admin. the homepage is in the system category chibaguy: It shouldn't matter that there are categories, as a rule. <br> Presumably a registered user can still create/edit an uncategorized page. <br> Try clearing your site's caches at tiki-admin_system.php. ChefTim: cleared no change. Just noticed that with registered user where the "create new page" would be if I was logged as admin is an empty box linking to tiki_index.php chibaguy: In the menu? ChefTim: yes <br> it is a top bar menu if that makes a difference <br> the "application menu" chibaguy: It seems like the first problem is that tab2 on tiki-listpages.php isn't accessible to Registered users. Probably the menu would work if it was. <br> What if you temporarily change tab2 to tab1 on the menu item? ChefTim: I think I may have isolated the problem. In the menu listing it has in the permissions box "tiki_p_view,tiki_p_edit" <br> If I remove those it shows up for registered users chibaguy: oh, ok. But what about accessing http://site/tiki-listpages.php?cookietab=2#tab2 <br> ? ChefTim: after removing those permissions it shows at the bottom of the list rather than as a seperate tab chibaguy: Does tiki-listpages.php display normally (with tabs) for admin? ChefTim: I am only seeing one tab. for list wiki pages <br> wait <br> wanst logged <br> ok. Yes both tabs showing for admin <br> and for registered after removing "tiki_p_view,tiki_p_edit" - checking anonymous <br> not showing for anonymous chibaguy: Well, anonymous shouldn't have permission for tab2. ChefTim: appears to be fixed. confused I am <br> If I never changed the permissions entry in the menu how did it get broke and why does removing "tiki_p_view,tiki_p_edit" from that entry fix it? chibaguy: Ah, I think when permissions are set for menu items, for pages that also have permissions set, it may mess things up. <br> I think the permission for the menu item visibility is determined based on the permission for the page/object it points to. <br> (It didn't used to work this way, but for several releases now, it's automatic.) ChefTim: possibly having to do with my setting categories and category permissions and making all pages be categorized? chibaguy: That could be a factor, too, if Registered doesn't have tiki_p_view_categorized. <br> But if Registered can create a new wiki page, he should be able to access tab2 of tiki-listpages.php. <br> I think the redundant permission settings were what caused the problem in the menu. ChefTim: ok. well until I understand tikiwiki better I'll just not question this and let it be for now. :) TYVM chibaguy ***: CIA-65 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) chibaguy: sure -: chibaguy makes a mental note to check what's said about menus and permissions at doc.tw.o, if it's up to date, etc. ***: yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki <br> CIA-65 has joined #tikiwiki <br> yoni has joined #tikiwiki <br> yonixxx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) yoni: hi, does somone has some experiences with bigbluebutton ? chibaguy: hi yoni. <br> I've used BBB just as a normal user. <br> (Tiki's live.tikiwiki.org) <br> got to go now but will bbl. ***: yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki <br> chibaguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) <br> yoni has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) <br> Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki <br> white|zzzzzzzz has joined #tikiwiki <br> redflo has joined #tikiwiki <br> j0n3 has joined #tikiwiki j0n3: gm! ChefTim: created a user module with wiki text in it. broke site. how to fix? <br> i found the module in the db. should I remove it or change a field? ***: yoni has joined #tikiwiki <br> yonixxx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) <br> FrankP has joined #tikiwiki <br> escamoteur has joined #tikiwiki escamoteur: HELP!! I cannot admin any settings anymore <br> I really didn't change anything, but when I go to admin home and click on any settings, It shows that its loading something for quite a while and then nothing happens <br> I'm using Tiki5 sylvieg: perharps you are missing file /image s- and something change in the cache <br> check the error log of your server ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki <br> Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away escamoteur: where do I find the log? <br> I already cleared all caches <br> Before I already had the problem that not all Configpages where visible, but know I don't get any of them CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28422 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_i18n.php: [FIX]i18l: do not check if file exists jonnyb: which log escamoteur ? escamoteur: Hi jonnyb <br> I have this problem <br> I really didn't change anything, but when I go to admin home and click on any settings, It shows that its loading something for quite a while and then nothing happens <br> I'm using Tiki5 ***: Kimberlee has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: do you see any javascript errors (in the error console) <br> of the browser Freud_77: how do I allow external images with WYSIWYG editor? The entered URL is replaced with "mydomain.duh/tiki5/browse?=id2" but I really need the real URL, so as not to need to upload the images... escamoteur: I check it jonnyb: <u>Freud_77</u>: it's probably buggy - try editing the source and saving Freud_77: It does seem rather intentional...as if not to allow onther images than the uploaded ones...the URL is changed upon saving the edit jonnyb: there's some really odd code in there - it never really worked imho <br> i'm in the process of sorting it out for tiki 6 Freud_77: It looks to me as if you somehow ride on the fck image plugin and then modify the outcome(i tried looking at the code but i'm totally PHP blind...) Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: How to configure forum - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38030 escamoteur: oh, yes, there is an exception:Fehler: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMLocation.host]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://google-toolbar-lib/content/toolbar.js :: anonymous :: line 1167" data: no] ***: Loggar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) <br> Loggar starts logging #tikiwiki at Tue Aug 10 10:55:27 2010 <br> Loggar has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: <u>escamoteur</u>: try turning off js minify and/or ajax escamoteur: where can I do this as I can't access any admin panel. <br> But why can this happen? It worked all the last days <br> what is minify? jonnyb: indeed odd <br> do you have ajax on? <br> tiki-admin.php?page=features&cookietab=4 escamoteur: yes, I have it active jonnyb: and with it off? escamoteur: I just turned it off, a moment ***: goj has joined #tikiwiki <br> FrankP has joined #tikiwiki <br> Tikiwiki|bot has joined #tikiwiki escamoteur: strange, now it works again <br> But as I said, it was ok since I installed it. ***: escamoteur has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) <br> ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki jonnyb: hmmm, someone's broken the parser in trunk :( ***: Andurino has joined #tikiwiki <br> t4ttyt3ddy has joined #tikiwiki t4ttyt3ddy: Hi I am trying to build a list of users who are a member of a certain group. Can anyone help? Tikiwiki|bot: Info: You're Invitated to the TikiFest / BigBlueButton Wine and Cheese Event - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article104-You-re-Invitated-to-the-TikiFest-BigBlueButton-Wine-and-Cheese-Event jonnyb: hi t4ttyt3ddy - try http://doc.tikiwiki.org/plugingroup ricks99: on the Admin: Groups page, there's a tab to list all group members jonnyb: hi ricks99 <br> have you noticed bad things in the trunk parser? ricks99: havent looked to be honest. t4ttyt3ddy: I would like to do this in code as it is to populate a custom list. -: ricks99 has only had 1 cup of coffee so far jonnyb: seems [[not a link] has stopped working ricks99: i also noteiced in 5.0 that {VERSION} plugin is broke (again) ***: t4ttyt3ddy has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) jonnyb: sigh ricks99: the parser ignores the first line after the {VERSION} <br> if the line starts with # ***: FrankP has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) jonnyb: <u>ricks99</u>: that's only slightly broken... 23 failures in the tests in trunk now in the main parser code :( ricks99: ouch! jonnyb: not good when dealing with an experimental branch and being very careful not to break stuff! (if it's broken already ;) ) sylvieg: did sept_7 committ something some months ago CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28423 10/trunk/templates/tiki-send_newsletters.tpl: [FIX]newsletter: this param in jq seems to fix add files jonnyb: hi sylvieg - almost certainly <br> but we ran the unit tests in barcelona (LPH showed me how!) and they were ok <br> now they're broken <br> looks like the parser is adding <br /> to everything sylvieg: sine barcelona ... it is not a log time ago jonnyb: no, and i've reviewed diffs of each commit to tikilib.php since then ***: white|zzzzzzzz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) jonnyb: all seem innocent sylvieg: I added the line not to add <br/> if is_html - but it was before Barcelona <br> try to comment the diabolic line 6764 in lib/tikilib.php jonnyb: the tests shouldn't take any notice of prefs should they? <br> :D sylvieg: no idea about the tests - I did not know they exist jonnyb: no, but they're a good thing, i think <br> should do some docs on them (maybe there already is) sylvieg: yes probably - but enough communication on thig to be adopted by everybody jonnyb: short version: install phpunit (via PEAR), cd lib/test, run: phpunit ./ <br> on a related topic - what is $simple_wiki for, and can we KIL it? ***: vishnu__ has joined #tikiwiki vishnu__: Hello! <br> someone there? jonnyb: not telling vishnu__: hey folks, i've got a problem with file galleries feature in tiki sylvieg: simple_wiki exists since at least 2006 vishnu__: once the file is uploaded (.pdf format) into file galleries, if someone downloads it afterwards.. the each page of the file is just blank. jonnyb: it was some sort of compromise to get fckeditor a bit less broken i think vishnu__: how can I solve this? ricks99: are you storing the files in the database or directory? jonnyb: sounds nasty vishnu__ what version of tiki? are the files in the db, does it happen with new uploads? vishnu__: I guess so, I've uploaded the file with 'upload' feature in file galleries section. <br> yes, happens with every upload ricks99: are you using the database or file directory? <br> ther is a known issue in 5.0 with possible coruptions when uploaidng with db (due to encoding issues). see relnotes for details sylvieg: http://tikiwiki.org/ReleaseNotes5.0#Corrupted_file_uploads vishnu__: pardon, i do not understand the db or file directory question. And the link you gave seems to solve the character encoding issues. <br> i'm afraid this might be different, every page of the pdf file just turned blank! <br> i'm using tiki after installing lampstack packages ***: white|zzzzzzzz has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: on your Admin: File Gallery page, are you storing the files in the DB or file directory? <br> Pls see doocs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/File+Gallery+Config vishnu__: okay, please give me a moment, thanks <br> in the db <br> files are being stored in db ricks99: i suggest changing to flie -: ricks99 finds that file is much better than db for performance, also means that google can crawl the uploads vishnu__: path i provided is this. /www/tiki/files/uploads/ <br> <u>error</u>: Cannot write to this file:/www/tiki/files/uploads/c754224c984626b66bef1a6be490ddd9 ricks99: need to make the directory writeable vishnu__: I am using this feature in intranet community, i think the directory is writeable <br> anyway I'll check that once, thanks for your time and help ricks99: k vishnu__: One more thing, I assume only users see these enabled features after logging in. How can I enable these for anonymous users too, as in, the moment they land on homepage they should have access to some of these. <br> tried setting permission for anonymous users, but not much help there Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Articles - Use topics as menus & Articles main page - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38031 ricks99: after enabling specific features, you need to grant each group specific permissions to *use* the feature <br> see docs for detials: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Permissions <br> this primer may help, too: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/ <shamless plug> vishnu__: Okay, thanks for your time mate ricks99: you're welcome ***: vishnu__ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) <br> ChefTim has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28424 10/trunk/lib/test/TikiLib/WikiParserTest.php: [FIX] Tests: TikiLib_WikiParserTest expects feature_wiki_paragraph_formatting to be off ***: rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki <br> ChefTim has joined #tikiwiki <br> ChefTim has quit IRC (Changing host) <br> ChefTim has joined #tikiwiki Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3513 - - Anrticle post notificaiton should correctly parse the body - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3513 CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28425 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 28418 to 28424 luciash: polom jonnyb: polom luciash luciash: hi jonny jonnyb: i'm going to backport where i've got to in my experimental branch - lots of background fixes to the textareas, shouldn't really change anything apart from a few improvements luciash: lets hope :) ***: ChefTim has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) jonnyb: the theory is they'll get spotted quicker in trunk, and won't build up into a merging nightmare later <br> it's available for testing on http://alcns.net :) luciash: ok, but sorry, no time to test now jonnyb: np ***: RavenC has joined #tikiwiki RavenC: hi everyone luciash: hi RavenC Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3513 - - Article post notification should correctly parse the body - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3513 luciash: hmm, i have a problem with profiles - don't know what's the best way to handle HTML in wiki page created by profile... if i use HTML plugin it needs approval, if i use allow HTML, it needs the perm too and check the checkbox and re-save the wiki page... or is there any easy way to use HTML in profile but not affect whole site where it is going to be installed ? jonnyb: do you really (really) need html? can't do it with {DIV()}, {JQ} etc? luciash: is directing the site admin to tiki-plugins.php the "least bad evil" ? <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: yes, really ;) jonnyb: we have a few plugs that need approval in the pretty tracker tpls in barter - you just need to approve them before it works - not ideal... luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: it's all unnecessary complicated to build up with wikiplugins and unnecessary parsing for already that slow Tiki when just used as templates jonnyb: i guess so luciash: yes <br> not ideal but if there's no other way, i will use HTML plugin and tell the site admin to approve all after applying the profile i guess jonnyb: seems safest luciash: i thought tiki_p_trust_input for Admins would do the trick for profiles applied by admin, but it didn't :-/ jonnyb: sadly not, it doesn't do plugin approval Tikiwiki|bot: Info: Nominate Tiki for the Packt 2010 Open Source Awards - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article105-Nominate-Tiki-for-the-Packt-2010-Open-Source-Awards luciash: well, the description of the perm suggested that (including plugins) but maybe i misunderstood -: sylvieg has the same problem with batch (perms and plugin validation) sylvieg: for datachannel you have to say wich group the instructions a reinterpreted - I do not know if the same apply to profiles CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28426 10/trunk/ (25 files in 8 dirs): <br> tikiwiki: [bp/r28419 & r28420][MOD][KIL][FIX] textareas: Replace area_name throughout with area_id becasue it should be, and remove JS function getElementById then mend most places where things broke. <br> tikiwiki: Also implement jQuery optimisations in a few places. luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: batch perms were easy with permission levels which jonny removed iirc sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: Do I miss something? luciash: you maybe miss them :) <br> the levels sylvieg: humm ... /me hopes not trying to solve something hat is solved already luciash: in Tiki 3.x on the old assign perms for groups page, there was extra feature down on the page where you could easily select a "level" of perms (basic, editors, admins) and apply it in batch to groups <br> they could be customized so you could decide which perm to put into which level sylvieg: .. I am speaking about cron/job batch job <br> for instance how to send a newsletter with a cron luciash: ah, cron, oups, misunderstood then sylvieg: I need the tiki_p_send_newsletters at this point + the plugin approvals + ... CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28427 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.toolbars.php: [FIX] Textareas: Set $rows and $cols in smarty for old html textareas that expect it. <br> tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r28428 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl: [MOD]Exporting and importing tracker fields now includes description text and the checkbox for parsing description. Waiting for somebody to create the new BRANCH proposals/5x so that I can backport it to 5x <br> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28429 10/trunk/tiki-send_newsletters.php: [ENH]newsletter: url param nlId=x&resendEditionId=y to resent a already sent edition of a newsletter ***: neil__ has joined #tikiwiki luciash: if somebody creates the branch proposals/5x i am willing to join the QT to help with the proposals CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28430 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 28424 to 28428 ***: Freud_77 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) neil__: my istallation of tiki 5.0 is showing blank pages after I made an entry in the custom html head content... can anyone tell me how to undo the changes? please! ***: RyanWP has joined #tikiwiki RyanWP: Hello everyone[13:51] <luciash> neil__: go to database and search for it in tiki-preferences table <br> Quick question: Do php globals still work in the SQL plugin? CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28431 10/third_party/ckeditor/ (12 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] Update to ckeditor 3.3.2 sylvieg: <u>RyanWP</u>: yes RyanWP: Hmmm neil__: tiki-preferences table unfortunately does not show me the content that I had inserted into custom html head content RyanWP: {SQL(db=>sqlplug, 0=>$user)} SELECT email FROM users_users{SQL} <br> That works <br> {SQL(db=>sqlplug, 0=>$user)} SELECT email FROM users_users WHERE login=?{SQL} <br> That returns a missing DB param ricks99: @neil__: see http://bit.ly/9cQi19 neil__: thanks ricks99! ricks99: you're welcome RyanWP: Anyone have any idea why? sylvieg: RyanWP:perhaps this plugin works only with adodb / pdo - try to change in db/local.php this plugin is crazy - better to learn how to write a plugin luciash: is $user right ? <br> shouldn't be in quotes or without $ ? RyanWP: That's how the example was written on the plugin help page, but let me check ***: Kimberlee has quit IRC () RyanWP: Still missing param with no $ and/or in quotes. <br> From what I saw, everything was already in ADO, but I'll look <br> Write a plugin? Man, all I want to do is output quiz results for a single user and by group luciash: try if {SQL(db=>sqlplug, 0=>admin)} works ? RyanWP: Nope <br> Crap - it looks like it's not pulling the variable into the SQL ***: yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki <br> yoni has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) RyanWP: I wonder if the DBReport plugin works any better ***: xavi has joined #tikiwiki <br> xavi has left <br> xavi has joined #tikiwiki <br> rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28432 10/third_party/ckeditor/ (82 files in 18 dirs): [MOD] Update to ckeditor 3.3.2 (all the other files, oops - worryingly all the js files are UTF-8 BOM, but not the php ones, so should be ok) luciash: profile wiki page handler cannot set any page properties, like tags, description or allow HTML , right ? xavi: hi luciash. sorry no idea myself <br> afaik, tags are not implemented in profiles <br> for the others, maybe some param is missing somewhere for them to work... but I dunno wht nor where, sorry luciash: i mean freetags, sorry <br> but most wanted would be the allow HTML checkbox actually :) <br> (for me now) <br> to be already checked at page creation sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: should not be to hard to add <br> goto lib/profilelib/installib.php luciash: ok, there sylvieg: function Tiki_Profile_InstallHandler_WikiPage add private $ishtml luciash: ok sylvieg: tryeing to find something similar - but not all the handlers have the same waqy <br> do not find really luciash: yea, all the others are text except the structure one sylvieg: so in fetchData younee something to $this->iSHtaml = $data['isHtml'] <br> and in the create_page later or update to put the $this->isHtml luciash: that's going beyond my skillz :) CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28433 10/trunk/lang/pt-br/language.php: pt-br translation sylvieg: sorry my actual free time used for xavi cron newsletters is asking me already too much ***: redflo has left sylvieg: could help later when this task is finished j0n3: byee ***: j0n3 has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) <br> neil__ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) <br> RyanWP has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r28434 10/trunk/lib/freetag/freetaglib.php: [FIX] Correctly store freetags containing apostrophes luciash: <u>sylvie</u>: no problem, same here :) ***: Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r28435 10/trunk/lib/freetag/freetaglib.php: [FIX] Oups xavi: mmm, anybody knows how to branch 5x? jonnyb: hi xavi - no, sorry <br> it can't be that hard, i just don't have time to find out how xavi: if documented somewhere, I can do it (guided by someone) jonnyb: it's not on SVNTips <br> i checked xavi: ok, fair enough, you've invested enough time with release candiates and 51... -: xavi didn't want to disturb jonnyb jonnyb: nyloth has done the previous ones, and he seems to have gone off-radar xavi: mmm, I'm tempted to google for svn branch... jonnyb: no probs xavi :) -: xavi killing his older desktop computer due to installing a few eclipse plugins... xavi: jonnyb, thanks for your tips with aptana/eclipse while in Barcelona jonnyb: glad to help - still going ok? xavi: This morning I managed to find out quickly (once I had eclipse and the bunch of necessary extra plugins) how to extend trackers in trunk to allow including the description in the fields... <br> so I'm pushing the limits of my desktop computer by attempting to use eclipse also here.... -: xavi is considering to use the dual core macbookpro laptop as a server to run eclipse from the slower (but much bigger dual-screen setup) desktop xavi: s/the description in the fields/the description in the fields at "exporting/importing fields" time CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r28436 10/trunk/lib/freetag/freetaglib.php: [FIX] Correct counting of length of UTF8 freetags ***: rotterdam is now known as rotterdam|away luciash: wth am i forced now to put email address for my admin account in trunk now ? <br> for fresh install just to test on my localhost i don't need that <br> + go back doesn't work saying "Invalid username" error - useless button Andurino: hello any speak spanish? ricks99: otherwise, possible for admin to forget their login and not be able to use FORGOT PASSWORD link luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: but this is stupid implementation <br> hello Andurino ricks99: havent seen trunk yet <br> but in 5.x it was optional field on the installer <br> was possible to leave blank luciash: yes, trunk is different now, it is in the installer too, but then when changing admin password after going from installer to tiki it asks again :( <br> better would be to ask in installer if i really am sure to leave it blank <br> and not to ask it twice and force me to fill in some ricks99: agreed luciash: same with the password length change... why you force me to put 5 characters... i was happy with 4 characters in my localhost -: ricks99 too missed the discussion about changing the minimum pw length luciash: 5 characters are not any bigger security if you don't use mixed letters numbers or special chars anyway chealer: polom luciash: polom chealer -: chealer trying Aptana again luciash: Aptana on Linux kinda sucks <br> same with Eclipse if you don't know all the workarounds to get all the plugins fully working chealer: hi luciash. so you think Aptana is more buggy on Linux than on Windows? -: luciash recently used Eclipse and kept overwriting his code madly hitting the insert key all the time ;) luciash: vim syndrom xavi: hi chealer and Andurino chealer: I know Eclipse is really bad on Debian luciash: not buggy, but the integration with the environment is worse i think chealer: hi xavi -: xavi recently working on eclipse on powerful-enough machines (kde apps require less hardware) luciash: like all the tricks to get the internal browser working, sometimes svn fails chealer: <u>luciash</u>: 5 characters password are on average more secure than passwords under 5 chars. password strength evaluation is always heuristic xavi: <u>Andurino</u>: este canal es en inglés, en teoría. luciash: hola xavi, congrats for being first (catalans) to ban the corrida xavi: :-) yes, that was a good one! <br> sometimes our politicians pass some sensible laws luciash: :-) -: jonnyb has finally got a custom button to appear in ckeditor and is most pleased with himself luciash: jonnyb rocks :) xavi: unluckily, they didn't even want to discuss publicly about the Genetically Modified Organisms... and it was sent to the parliament the same day (more than 1 year ago) that the proposals for banning bull "corrida" was sent -: xavi waves to jonnyb jonnyb: :) chealer: I changed some passwords from 1234 to 12345. but recently I lost the admin passwords for 2 to 4 installs <br> I'm wondering if that's because of the requirement to change password or something else <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: interesting :-) xavi: <u>jonnyb</u>: I tested this morning you ckeditor branch in alcns server... <br> silently <br> are you expecting feedback already, from what you have there, or later, once you move forward a bit more? jonnyb: it's only a taster so far, generally broken, but fixes coming soon xavi: ok, I'll wait then before testing again and reporting issues (I was missing some line breaks, aqfter playing a bit, probably due to some interaction with the auto-save option)= jonnyb: no, what's there is just refactoring, and i've merged most of it back into trunk already - should be no effect so far (maybe a bit quicker?) xavi: no idea if quicker, sorry luciash: <u>interesting</u>: Fatal error: Call to a member function getRequiredProfiles() on a non-object in /home/luci/Development/tikitrunkprofiles/lib/profilelib/installlib.php on line 131 <br> it wasn't like that two hours ago... did i broke something ? hmm :) <br> actually, i don't think so, i didn't save the file... <br> did someone commit some change in there in between ? <br> doesn't look like ... weird <br> i tried again and now no error, nothing changed, weird chealer: <u>jonnyb</u>: when http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Development+Environment%3A+XAMPP-Aptana says to install "Ajax Libraries (all)", does that mean we should install everything under Ajax Frameworks: Aflax, Dojo, EXT, jQuery, Mootools, Rico, YUI, etc.? jonnyb: doesn't seem to make much difference - i just include jquery (but it doesn't seem to do anything) chealer: ok CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28437 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [KIL] default home page content in french is missing all the info about profiles chealer: oh, so that image encoding thread meant all/most images on dev.tw.o are broken :-? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Development+Environment%3A+XAMPP-Aptana <br> :-( luciash: [KIL] ? i thought it is used for removed files only ? ***: rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: rodrigo_sampaio) Andurino: gracias xavi, me interesa el tema tikiwiki pero no entiendo correctamente el ingles <br> por eso pregunte si alguien hablaba español ***: rotterdam|away is now known as rotterdam Andurino: por lo poco que puedo entender es que estais hablando sobre entornos de desarrollo (herramientas) necesarias <br> si es que ello es asi <br> sorry for all user that not speak spanish xavi: <u>Andurino</u>: this channel is supposed to be in English <br> see my message in the other tab Andurino: I am sorry, i only speak spanish (my enghis are limited and not is corret) luciash: <u>Andurino</u>: you can chat in private with xavi or go for #tikiwiki-es or #tikiwiki-ca xavi: <u>Andurino</u>: see my private message <br> <u>Andurino</u>: mira en la otra pestaña de tu programa de chat. the he enviado un mensaje privado hace rato Andurino: #tikiwiki-es oh thank i dont konow this xavi: <u>Andurino</u>: use the Spanish forum (I'm afraid there is nobody in #tikiwiki-es ), or the private chat here <br> luciash or chealer: I've just installed sshd on one of my machines at home, but I don't seem to get it running when I logout from that machine. <br> do you know how to have the service up and running even if no user is logged in that server? luciash: you need to have at least one user running it, no ? is sshd run by sshd or root "user" ? chealer: <u>xavi</u>: on which operating system? xavi: <u>chealer</u>: ubuntu <br> <u>luciash</u>: no idea. when I log in as user in the server, I can connect from the client <br> when I logout from the server, I cannot connect from the client chealer: <u>xavi</u>: how is sshd started? luciash: <u>xavi</u>: what about using screen there instead of logout ? <br> screen -U xavi: I did start it through: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start (I think) luciash: then detach the screen session using ctrl+alt+d xavi: or sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start (I don't remember) <br> <u>luciash</u>: I can leave the session blocked, but I ws just wondering why the service is not run at startup before any user logs in luciash: then when you come back re-attach to the screen session using screen -Ux XXXX where XXXX is the PID of the session (you'll get list using screen -list) xavi: I'm using NXClient to connect to the server, etc. <br> frmo nomachine (gpl'd edition) luciash: <u>xavi</u>: you need to at it to start at bootup chealer: <u>xavi</u>: did you check your log (auth)? <br> <u>xavi</u>: I don't know Ubuntu, but do you have openssh-server? <br> it looks like Aptana is working decently for the first time xavi: chealer, yes, I installed openssh-server, which allows ssh connections. The question is that I don't seem to login when no user is logged at teh server <br> as if sshd is not running when no user is logged chealer: <u>luciash</u>: I think of [KIL] as for removing features, though indeed the description mentions files. I agree that's a stretched use of [KIL] anyway. xavi: I wonder how/where in debian based distro's the services are stored/set , so that they are up at boot time ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: nite nite) <br> white|zzzzzzzz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) xavi: <u>luciash</u>: how do you start a program (ssh in this case) at boot up? chealer: <u>xavi</u>: I understand, but I have no idea why sshd wouldn't be automatically started (except some Ubuntu issue) xavi: <u>chealer</u>: ok, thanks luciash: <u>xavi</u>: i add it to services <br> <u>xavi</u>: you want it GUI way or command line ? xavi: <u>luciash</u>: how do you do that? <br> I have bum (Boot-up-manager), but it doesn't seem to work well enough. <br> so comand line is fine chealer: <u>xavi</u>: on Debian (and presumably Ubuntu), /etc/rc?.d/ determines what services run in each runlevel. xavi: ok. and which is the runlevel usually taken by default? luciash: <u>xavi</u>: I use BootUp-Manager too xavi: ah,I see <br> thanks chealer luciash: rc5 i think xavi: those folders contain just symlinks! <br> easy! <br> thanks luciash for tip chealer: <u>xavi</u>: on Debian, the default [multiuser] runlevel is 2 <br> <u>xavi</u>: and there's documentation in /etc/init.d/README xavi: thks luciash: Use the update-rc.d command to create symbolic links in the /etc/rc?.d <br> as appropriate. See that man page for more details. <br> from the README ;) xavi: oups, I didn't do it like this (didn't RTFM :-/ ). I did create symlinks as usual.... and server is rebooting alreeady -: xavi crosses his fingers xavi: hehe, it didn't work. This time I'll read the manual :-)thanks luciash for the tip ***: chealer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) xavi: <u>luciash</u>: fyi: ubuntu since karmic boots up with no run level <br> and that's why those issues I have <br> http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1412157 <br> ok, I skip this, and log in the server to allow remote connections <br> easy workaround :-) luciash: ah, or use the screen session xavi: screen session? I'm using NXCLient . What's this screen thing? -: xavi rading the manual for screen xavi: reading luciash: apt-get install screen <br> ;) xavi: I seem to have it installed luciash: it is useful to stay running multiple user sessions under one logged in user in console with possibility to detach and logout and then come later, login and reattach the running session where you left last time xavi: oups, way too long man page for me at this time of the day CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28438 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] feedback after writing translations back to language.php xavi: NXClient does fine enough for me :-) luciash: i use it mainly to run irssi (console irc client) in it on my server so i always see all messages as i stay permanently logged in the channel ***: chealer has joined #tikiwiki luciash: yes, but NX is graphical, right ? xavi: <u>luciash</u>: ok, I see <br> yes, NX is full GUI programs :-) <br> <u>chealer</u>: you were right: the problem with the run level thing is specific from ubuntu. it seems to boot gdm without setting any runlevel yet <br> since ubuntu karmic ***: fabricius has joined #tikiwiki fabricius: hi luciash: dog walk, bbl sylvieg: the thrd person in a month that complain to see the cached information as anonymous -: luciash is back luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: wut ? sylvieg: they do not like anonymous to see the page is cached.... <br> It makes sense in a way luciash: i don't understand <br> u mean the icon ? sylvieg: the icon and the text 'Cached' - because this user does not care if it is cached <br> and even do not understand the concept.. luciash: then just hide it by CSS sylvieg: there is no css for (Cached) <br> you think it does not deserve a perm luciash: hmm, i have it hidden somehow sylvieg: I though I try some time ago to do that - but I did not commit for a reason - I do not remember.... getting old luciash: i have only the icon there, no "Cached" text sylvieg: This makes sense .. <br> but a .wikitopline smaal{display:none;} is dirty luciash: yes :) sylvieg: ... do we really need to see the text - if we have the icon? <br> I am almost ready to delete that informatin luciash: well, i don't, but someone can insist on it somehow sylvieg: so .. a perm tiki_p_refresh_wiki_cache <br> :-( I do not know ricks99: just replace the png file with a 1px transparent image sylvieg: And what do I do with teh text? luciash: tiki_p_view_icon_refresh -: ricks99 wonders what is next? tiki_p_view_icon_lock, tiki_p_view_icon_foo... etc? luciash: tiki_p_view_icons_all :-p sylvieg: yes I know ... <br> :-) luciash: i also think it is not necessary as it can be hidden by CSS <br> rather add class sylvieg: it is why I am talking with you - thx for the help - I really do not know luciash: if missing <br> add class="icon refresh" ricks99: just curiours... how will users know if they're looking at stale data? luciash: or around the whole <span class="refresh">...<img class="icon" ... /></span> ***: rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: because a lot of tiki webmaster cache also page taht are simple wiki ***: escamoteur has joined #tikiwiki luciash: some users do not need that to know <br> if cache is 15 mins it doesn't matter that much -: sylvieg is nto sure taht tiki is faster with cache on simple page ricks99: depends on what change din tha t15 minutes. :-) luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: add a span with class around it in tpl <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: no perm necessary sylvieg: ok ***: Tikiwiki|bot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) sylvieg: no idea what tiki-view_cache.php is doing? luciash: you can view cached pages there <br> the external ones (maybe) xavi: sylvieg or chealer (or anyone else): do you know how to create the new branch proposals/5x ? <br> hi ricks99 sylvieg: I do not know - no idea if the doc is updated ricks99: hi xavi luciash: i think it should be same as with experimental <br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/SVNTips#Handling_branches sylvieg: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/SVNTips#Handling_branches? <br> :-) luciash: :) xavi: ok, :-) -: xavi goes reading TFM :-) sylvieg: so svn co tiki5 proposed/5.x; php doc/devtools/svnbranch.php branches/proposed/tiki5.x ? chealer: <u>xavi</u>: not by heart, but I'd rather leave that to the QT xavi: <u>chealer</u>: yes, I was hoping that they could do, but jonnyb explicitly requested anyone else to do, and I have sylvieg too busy with other things,..... so If I can do this... I can have her time devoted to things that I can't do :-) <br> I'll update the doc with what I learned escamoteur: Hi, I have some problems with the editor in forum posts luciash: proposed/5.x ? beware if it is not proposals/ ! xavi: yes, yes, I'll beware luciash: yes, it should be "proposals/5.x" sylvieg: mkdir proposals/5.x; svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/5.x proposals/5.x; cd proposals/5.x ; php doc/devtools/svnbranch.php branches/proposals/5.x <br> what about this one? luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: that sounds nicely :) xavi: :-) <br> I'll put that in the doc page <br> and where should I run this set of commands? once logged in sf.net, in the appropriate folder? luciash: huhuhuh <br> on your local machine i guess ? sylvieg: no on your local <br> :-) again escamoteur: is it normal, that I only have a limited toolbar when replying to a post compared to creating a new one? sylvieg: I need a coffee to bit luciash luciash: :D sylvieg: s/bit/beat xavi: mmmm, I don't get it.... ah, the last bit, the svnbranch.php will do the trick in sourceforge, then luciash: i will need one soon as well ;) chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: back to the last_modif_pages minor edits, I agree showing "last modify on X" where X is the last major modification time would be misleading. It could be just a date, or if it needs to be specified, "Last major modification: X". sylvieg: it is the sesonds time luciash answered 2 secs before me <br> second <br> do you try it xavi , do I try it? or do we send a message to devel list? xavi: I try, sylvie, thanks (after I finish editing the svntips page) luciash: *g*, shouldn't it be the other wy around ? ;) <br> *way ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: ah ah jonnyb... <br> do you think mkdir proposals/5.x; svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/5.x proposals/5.x; cd proposals/5.x ; php doc/devtools/svnbranch.php branches/proposals/5.x is ok? <br> <u>btw</u>: tiki-view_caches.php is for external cached pages xavi: <u>luciash</u>: wiki way :-) <br> hi jonnyb jonnyb: hi xavi luciash: <u>xavi</u>: :) i mean first try if it works, then document ? <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: yes, i thought so loud jonnyb: <u>sylvieg</u>: "ah ah member:jonnyb..." sounds ominous :) -: xavi already fired that command in local... the server (dual core macbookpro with ubuntu) running at max. speed.. serving eclipse and the proposals/5.x branch creation xavi: luci, I undertood before: wiki way, is my answer, indeed -: luciash feels the ground shaking from the speed of that macbookpro dual core running at max. speed :) escamoteur: hi jonnyb! I could reproduce the problem with the admin panels by switching Ajax on and get it back working by switching it off xavi: before I forget, I add it to the documentation what sylvieg suggested. And if (And where) needed, I document later on.... so many windows open right now, that if I leave for later, I might have lost the comments....,e tc. jonnyb: <u>sylvieg</u>: did you try the branch script? i have a feeling it refuses to make any branch other than experimental luciash: <u>xavi</u>: good xavi: <u>luciash</u>: oh well, that's much better than the refurbished desktop where I am right now (where I usually am when at home) sylvieg: <u>jonnyb</u>: never luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: oh doh sylvieg: xavi will confirm xavi: :-) -: xavi goes for some food in the mean time sylvieg: btw what is the diffrence between desing.css and design-reference.css? -: luciash goes for some coffee luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: reference is just for reference jonnyb: i really don;'t think we have the resources to do proposals for 5.x <br> 6 is so soon, i want to focus on that sylvieg: we can do the easy way luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: gary thought it could be useful to see what classes are used - actually it shouldn't contain any real values, just attributes and commented sylvieg: we let the commits in proposals or reverse and we commit in one block jonnyb: <u>sylvieg</u>: are you using subclipse now? with the collabnet merge tools? sylvieg: so where do I put the cachedStatus -> small font <br> I use command line - hehe <br> and emacs jonnyb: there are commands for branching in that i think (because i think a branch needs to know where it came from - svn:mergeinfo etc) <br> i can try it - shall i? luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: in tiki-page_bar.tpl or something above tiki-show_page.tpl <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: see the source with TPL comments enabled sylvieg: not in the tpl but the css luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: to see where is the ... ah sylvieg: I wil not do a small class=cachedStatus - but span class=cachedStatus luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: i thought you added the <span class="refresh" .... <br> ah, cachedStatus <br> is fine jonnyb: ok, here goes... ready? (for proposals/5.x) luciash: you can add it just in the reference file - we do not need to have it styled in default Tiki or do we ? but for customizations is good to have that possibility jonnyb: let's see what happened luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: xavi is running it CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28439 10/branches/proposals/5.x/: [BRANCH] Manually created 5.x branch jonnyb: he said he was off for food, no? sylvieg: commit conflicts??? fun.... luciash: aye, xavi, you can stop the script xavi: back luciash: yea, off for food while having his machine running the script :) sylvieg: fast food xavi: nope, food came back with me :-)= jonnyb: oh, i seem to have done it... <br> was quick! xavi: script stopped jonnyb: https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/proposals/5.x xavi: "The branch already exists" <br> yes, you did it, jonnyb jonnyb: hopefully creating it with a [BRANCH] message is what makes the merge scripts work (afaicr) xavi: faster than me (if it was to work, ... who knows) -: xavi keeps eating while reading what happened <br> sylvieg is doing svn co ***: ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get more help: Tiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org and Tiki Essentials http://twessentials.keycontent.org) <br> escamoteur has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) sylvieg: seems in good <br> jonnyb is good for completing the doc ;-) xavi: :-) luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: please put what you did on the SVNTips page jonnyb: did i? what doc? xavi: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/SVNTips&no_bl=y#Creating_a_new_proposals_branch jonnyb: ok xavi: this is called "team work" jonnyb: it seems all aptana did was "svn copy -rHEAD https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/5.x https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/proposals/5.x" xavi: easy, then :-) jonnyb: but i'm not sure where the commit message happened sylvieg: make sense chealer: bbl luciash: that's why i prefer commandline way ***: FrankP has joined #tikiwiki <br> rotterdam has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) <br> yoni has joined #tikiwiki CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28440 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): ***: rotterdam has joined #tikiwiki CIA-65: tikiwiki: [FIX] properly escape special characters before writing translations to language.php <br> tikiwiki: [MOD] moved addphpslashes() and removephpslashes from get_strings.php to lib/language/Language.php ***: yonixxx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28441 10/third_party/ckeditor/: [SVN] ckeditor: Ignore _source ***: RavenC has quit IRC (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) <br> FrankP has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) <br> FrankP has joined #tikiwiki <br> jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: I am going outside... 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