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j0n3: hi!
Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3519 - - Plugin validation does not work, TW50B1 - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3519
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CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03minger0 * r28525 10/trunk/tiki-register.php: [FIX] 3449 User preference tracker field realName does not work at registration
<br> tikiwiki: 03minger0 * r28526 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX] TRACKER plugin: itemId may not be replaced in the url if it is followed by an id
j0n3: Is there any "howto" to import massive data to trackers?
<br> as I see exporting to CSV, there is a itemId field... but, should I set it on import or leave it blank?
<br> ok ok, nothing said... I see autoincrement on table definition on phpmyadmin, sorry
<br> (so just blank for that)
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xavi: polom
<br> I'm so sorry, I seem to have deleted a file from trunk by mistake!
<br> help!
<br> I wanted to delete my own local copy of lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php , and it seems that I've deleted by mistake the copy at the svn repository :-(
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chibaguy: polom
<br> xavi, did you correct the deleted-file problem? lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php is still (or again) in trunk.
xavi: yes, thanks chibaguy , it seems that I didn't manage to delete it (successfully :-) )
<br> jonny is helping me (on skype) to see what happened
<br> uff.... my face was deep red...
j0n3: <u>xavi</u>: reverting from svn doesn't work?
xavi: yes, j0n3 , it did! uff. saved
<br> I had never used the revert feature, so I didn't know about it
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j0n3: neither me
<br> just made a test on mine
xavi: yes, it worked fine, j0n3 , thanks
j0n3: it worked nice, but I understand you... ;)
<br> I heard lot about svn problems, and bigger problems trying to solve that "little problem", you know
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j0n3: sometimes apps have a difference on what it should be doing and what really is done, and lot more times, what people think they are doing and what really they are doing... xD
ricks99: hi all :-)
chibaguy: hi ricks99
ricks99: hi gary
jonnyb: polom all
<br> how is the sandbox supposed to work these days?
<br> i want to allow http://alcns.net/tiki-editpage.php?page=sandbox for anonymous but can't work out how
ricks99: works like a normal edit page, just no "Save" button
jonnyb: but also no perms button
ricks99: correct.
jonnyb: i'm guessing that's just wrong - so i'll fix it (in trunk) - ok?
ricks99: (and no translate button, i believe)
jonnyb: no translate seems ok
<br> cos it's only one page
<br> i do see a "make structure" button, which is a bit pointless i think
ricks99: agree
jonnyb: also it's probably best not to have attach file there
-: ricks99 thinks it would be great if the sandbox wasn't hardcoded as "Sandbox"
jonnyb: i suppose now perms work we could use any page...
ricks99: thats what i do
<br> "Test" page makes much more sesne to noobies --
j0n3: how do you import data to trackers?
ricks99: just my $.02
jonnyb: indeed - most people here (UK) don't know what a "sandbox" is
-: jonnyb realises he has bigger fish to fry today
<br> ricks99 also thinks that there shouldn ot be a tiki_p_edit perm check on the sandbox page. any/everyone shoudl be able to edit it, thats the point of te sandbox
jonnyb: <u>j0n3</u>: tiki-admin_trackers.php?trackerId=1&cookietab=3
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jonnyb: that's what i thought, ricks99
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jonnyb: worked it out anyway: http://alcns.net/tiki-editpage.php?page=sandbox is now open for business! :)
j0n3: <u>jonnyb</u>: I've made csv import but as I see on db, items were created but not item_fields (data)
<br> i mean tiki_tracker_items have created items...
jonnyb: usually the only way i can get the format right is to export a few, and use that as a template
j0n3: that's what i did...
<br> you set manually itemId or let db autoassign it, as it's autoincremental...
<br> ?
<br> I've ommited some fields as they are blank...
<br> boh
<br> now reading "not compatible with office 2007"
<br> let's try with openoffice :S
<br> i'm a big noob :(
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fabricius|away: polom
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fabricius: I´d need to extend the maximum size of upload files - where I can find a documentation on this issue, or who knows how to?
jonnyb: it's in your php.ini on the server
ricks99: see tiki faqs for the specifics
xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: hi. the last tw.o forum post is for you; something related to some css(html issue in plugin tracker, when mandatory fields are shown
<br> I feel is right in the core of some of your expertise's
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ricks99: the "cave data entry" thingy?
<br> looking
fabricius: thx jonnyb and ricks99
xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: yes
<br> I posted some extra info which I knew
ricks99: looks like an issue with mandatory + pretty tracker template
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fabricius: I do not find the location of the php.ini (tiki 5.0)
<br> any idea in wich folder?
ricks99: should be in your web root. (this is *not* a tiki file)
luciash: polom
jonnyb: hi luciash
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: thanks for the "Calling All Translators"
<br> hi jonnyb
ricks99: my please (and polom to you)
<br> my pleasure
<br> *sigh* more coffee
luciash: *g*
-: luciash just starts his monday with first one
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xavi: jonnyb, how difficult would it be to add a toolbar to the import/export tracker fields in trunk?
<br> I mean to do it myself...
<br> mainly to dogfood search and replace button
jonnyb: just add the right {toolbars blah blah} tag to the tpl - shouldn't be too hard
xavi: ok, I'll try, thanks :-)
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xavi: ok, jonnyb, I must be missing something. the tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl text area (in tab3) didn't have an "id" set, so that I added one, and added the {toolbars bla bla} above, like as follows:
<br> second line was wrong on irc (?). I try again:
<br> ok, that's it
<br> around line 242 in tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl
jonnyb: looks ok - why comments=y?
xavi: but no change
<br> comments=y, to see initially the same toolbar as in comments
jonnyb: and have you set up a toolbar for tracker comments secion?
<br> ok, sounds right
xavi: well, I don't want that toolbar, it was just a test
<br> at the end, I'll add a simple toolbar with just search and replace, probably
jonnyb: looks fine to me
xavi: but step by step
<br> "and have you set up a toolbar for tracker comments secion?"?
<br> where do I set up that?
jonnyb: toolbars admin
xavi: can't I just reuse the same toolbar as in comments?
jonnyb: it's use the global one anyway
xavi: well, ok, there I go
jonnyb: sorry - it'll use...
xavi: ok
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luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: polom, new Tiki site in the making using layout shadows ;)
<br> (and typeface.js again)
xavi: hi luciash and sylvieg
sylvieg: hi xavi
xavi: jonnyb, I must be missing something, because I can't see he toolbar. Do I need to add include_once ('lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php'); in tiki-admin_tracker_fields.php also?
<br> s/he/the
jonnyb: coo - looks like the firefox selection issue is due to css - weird!
<br> no, shouldn't need to
sylvieg: xavi was looking at the dafautt frop down - it is even broken for a new item :-( in trunk
xavi: <u>sylvie</u>: oups.... it was not broken to me, if you have all fields in one wiki page
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xavi: <u>jonnyb</u>: ok.
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: ok, adding that toolbar is not important, and not as easy, as it seems (It was just a kind of quick test to my own skills... I'll searching and replacing with external tools)
<br> s/I'll searching/I'll keep searching
jonnyb: it should just work - sorry no spare time to help more now
xavi: no, no problem, is not important. Thanks for your help. Please, consider that I didn't ask anything related to toolbars, seriously
-: xavi back to work with his tracker
luciash: hola xavi :)
xavi: hi luciash :-)
luciash: salut sylvieg
<br> yay
jonnyb: hmm, seems lite.css is to blame (for all the firefox textarea weirdness)
luciash: i wonder why :)
jonnyb: seems it was ok in 3.x
<br> i'm doing a diff
<br> i need to fix this properly as it's making ckeditor unusable in firefox ;(
<br> no changes to lite.css (as i thought)
<br> wonder if it's the charset - it's utf-8...
<br> not charset - i think it's the body{display:table;} thing
<br> yup - definitely - line 15 of lite.css doesn't agree with firefox
<br> but the layout work fine without it
luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: it's necessary for expanding content (pushing right column) to the right properly
jonnyb: but it makes editing not work
luciash: if it worked before, i would rather not touch lite.css
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jonnyb: which we have (badly) patched with loads of js kludges
<br> no, i'm going to add a thing to setup to add it afterwards
<br> probably with a pref
<br> although i'd rather we got rid of all the hacks
luciash: in an ideal browsers world it would be possible to get rid of all the hacks, but not in this world
<br> (i mean css "hacks")
jonnyb: i know - it's a balance
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jonnyb: but it's not possible to get hack ckeditor enough without forking it
<br> and it works ok in everything else except for tiki
luciash: blame ckeditor ;)
jonnyb: we've also had so many issues since 3.5 came out (i think)
<br> blame doesn't help
luciash: yep, don't blame lite.css then :)
jonnyb: but that's where the problem line is... (and it's caused issues before) - but it's ok, i'll hack round it :)
luciash: did u try to use empty.css (only import lite.css) if it works any better ?
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03minger0 * r28529 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] 3159++ Trackers: Modifying dynamic list item type does not work when the
<br> tikiwiki: reference field is not in fields - additional fix: to allow for linking via not
<br> tikiwiki: item link fields; simplification to the previous commit and it is also more
<br> tikiwiki: generic
luciash: or worse ?
jonnyb: same
<br> i can do it using the dom inspector
luciash: ah, was fckeditor different then
jonnyb: disable that css rule and it's fine
<br> fckeditor was always buggy in tiki
luciash: before it worked you say, and if lite.css wasn't changed...
<br> i thought change from fckeditor to ckeditor causes the problem
<br> or i misundrstood
jonnyb: no, i think it was change from fx 3.0 to 3.5
luciash: but where, if not in lite.css
jonnyb: but that coincided with tiki 4.0, and lots of jquery stuff arriving, so we thought it was a JS thing
luciash: ah, is it some positioning JS computation ?
<br> which jQuery uses ?
jonnyb: seems not - it's a css thing
luciash: but how display: table might affect it ? i wonder
jonnyb: bug in firefox i guess
luciash: it's just telling to render the element table behavior
<br> instead of display: block
jonnyb: because i guess they assume the body must be a block, as per w3
luciash: well, the body is probably something special anyway, not classic block element
<br> that's maybe why
<br> maybe it could be workarounded adding an extra div around whole with display: table instead but it is not very semantic fix
jonnyb: i'm just going to fix it for textareas now
luciash: good
jonnyb: oh, except that includes pages with the comment form on...
<br> hmmm, nasty
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RavenC: polom all!
luciash: <u>RavenC</u>: hi
RavenC: hi luciash
xavi: bbl
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ricks99: Hi RavenC
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28530 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX]TRACKER: to have the plugin without itemId after on with itemId
<br> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r28531 10/mods/trunk/themes/andreas09_tiki_5/ (56 files in 13 dirs): [NEW] Andreas09 theme for Tiki 5.
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28532 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] ckeditor: A couple more tool renames
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28533 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] textareas: Finally a fix for the Firefox selection loss problem by making sure the document body element has display:block (not table).
<br> tikiwiki: This means the other JS workarounds can eventually be removed if this really is successful and that ckeditor works as in other browsers.
<br> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r28534 10/mods/trunk/themes/clubcard_tiki_5/ (27 files in 8 dirs): [NEW] Club Card theme for Tiki 5.
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RavenC: morning ricks
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CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r28536 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]TRACKER: fix default value in drop down when filling a tracker some fields at the time: value not set means was not in the database
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fabricius|away: hey ricks99 , thx ... lost conection and have to go again ... root folder for php.ini - will call the provider, if I do not find
<br> and bye then
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<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] 3159+++ Trackers: Modifying dynamic list item type does not work when the
<br> tikiwiki: reference field is not in fields - additional fix: to allow for linking via not
<br> tikiwiki: item link fields; simplification to the previous commit and it is also more
<br> tikiwiki: generic; added even more simplification
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28538 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: [FIX] ckeditor: oops, debug thing
chealer: TikiFesters waking up in a new TikiHouse
<br> Go jonnyb!
jonnyb: polom chealer and all! who's there?
chealer: we're just those who slept here now, Marc, Cyrille, Etienne and me. Nelson and Pascal should join us.
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rodrigo_sampaio: xavi (or anyone else): any idea what is breaking the layout in this page http://doc.tikiwiki.org/File+Gallery+for+Images
<br> ?
chealer: hi rodrigo_sampaio
rodrigo_sampaio: hi chealer
<br> <u>chealer</u>: are you in ottawa? i'm going later today
xavi: hi rodrigo_sampaio. no idea. I?ll have a look
<br> ah ha ha
<br> probably the align=center in the images
<br> some bug around since a few versions
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>xavi</u>: ok, I will check
xavi: it should alignthem, as it did in the past
<br> but suddenly, it staretd doing some floating, afaik
chealer: <u>rodrigo_sampaio</u>: I am, in the new TikiHouse. cool, I was just asking when you would come :-)
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>chealer</u>: soon :)
chealer: and the images are in the middle of sentences
<br> but no idea, never seen that problem
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>xavi</u>: just to let you know there is also a missing image
<br> <u>xavi</u>: the first image link is broken
xavi: let me see....
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xavi: <u>rodrigo_sampaio</u>: I created the page, and probably added all images in that page, but for sure I can tell you that it was not me who wrote this:
<br> {img link=/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=44&display src=/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=44 align=center class=reflect }
<br> which is the code from the missing/broken image
<br> so that there might be something wrong going on in the code....
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>xavi</u>: do you know if this bug with align=center has been reported at dev.tikiwiki.org?
xavi: good question :-) no idea.
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>xavi</u>: just discovered another bug, it is not possible to preview a wiki page when someone else is editing it (you can edit it but you cannot preview your changes... :))
xavi: not me, probably (I reported way too many errors....)
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>xavi</u>: I will report both
xavi: thks, rodrigo_sampaio
sylvieg: <u>rodrigo_sampaio</u>: thank you for the phpunit comment - my test is not recognized :-)
-: xavi has so many open bug reports.... and he should review them...
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>sylvieg</u>: you are welcome
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: is not recognized or was not recognized? :)
-: xavi wishes that the new code from sylvie (batch change on item status) will save his time by means of automagically change them to pending.... and if no change, to closed :-)
sylvieg: s/not/now
<br> sorry
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>sylvieg</u>: great!
sylvieg: I still have a problem with tikilib not correctly decalred... but at least I can test :-)
xavi: chealer?
<br> chealer, if you can fix the image path problem with the first image.... you seem to have the page open for edition still
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>chealer</u>: are you still editing the page? due to the preview bug I can't see if my changes are correcting the problem in that page while you are editing it ;)
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: which problem?
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: maybe I can help
sylvieg: PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function setTZbyID() on a non-object in /home/sg/www/html/test/tikitrunkfresh/lib/tikilib.php on line 7594
chealer: xavi, rodrigo_sampaio: I closed it, feel free to take the lock
sylvieg: but perhaps it is my test ... it works in a test.php ... I will ask you if I can not find out - thx rodrigo_sampaio
xavi: ok, thanks, chealer
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>chealer</u>: thanks, I will test xavi suggestion regarding align=center
<br> <u>chealer</u>: as soon as tiki realize that you are not editing the page anymore :)
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chealer: that's bad, I thought/hoped Tiki would just ask the editor if it really wanted to edit
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>chealer</u>: this is what it does, but apparently there is a bug and I cannot preview the page, so I cannot test my edition before saving it :(
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: the problem is that $tikidate is not defined. so probably just creating a new instance of TikiDate and assigning it to $tikidate will fix the issue
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28539 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/ckeditor_tiki/plugins/autosave/plugin.js: [FIX] ckeditor: don't re-save ajax errors and make clicking the button always work
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28540 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/wiki/editlib.php: [FIX] parse_html: remove completely empty p tags
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28541 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/tikilib.php: [MOD] parse_data: Preserve empty line/paras when wiki paragraph formatting and correct some logic back to how it is in trunk
xavi: jonnyb, do you need some testing of your ckeditor branch? (I have some spare time for that, if useful for you)
jonnyb: if you can, please! thanks xavi
xavi: any special topic you want me to test? or whatever?
jonnyb: Geoff is already on the case, he's set up quite a few test pages there
xavi: ok
jonnyb: especially wiki/html parsing and switching, and i've made a few changes to tikilib->parse_data involving wiki para mode, so don't want too many surprises when i merge back
j0n3: byee
xavi: is your site updated? or I can test any trunk?
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jonnyb: it's an experimental branch (branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update) but that's whats on http://alcns.net
<br> recently svn up'ed
xavi: ok, I'll test on your site
jonnyb: i'm hoping to merge back into trunk tonight
xavi: <u>jonnyb</u>: xavi at tikiwiki.org is not a valid email address in your alcns.net site???
<br> plus, fyi, there is no registration message shown after filling in the registration details
jonnyb: ¿que? :O
xavi: I know this is not probably due to your branch, but, just in case
jonnyb: no, not touched anything like that afaik
xavi: ok
jonnyb: can you get in? or shall i make a user for you?
xavi: anyway, I wonder if tw.o domain made some indigestion to your alcns.net site...
<br> hopld on, I'll test
<br> "Account disabled" :-(
jonnyb: can't see why
xavi: account "Xavi"
<br> anyway, I can use the account "tiki", no worries
jonnyb: i've validated it
xavi: but for sure, there seems to be something borked with the regsitration process
<br> ok, I'll try again
jonnyb: i made you admin too
xavi: now I get: ErrorYou did not validate your account
<br> + another error message:
<br> You should have received an email. Check your mailbox and your spam box. Otherwise click on the button to resend the emailResend
jonnyb: ay? (sometimes tiki can be very annoying ;) )
xavi: Ok, I'll try again without clicking on any validation message (if an admin validates some account, that should work)
jonnyb: sorry
<br> had to validate email too
<br> ok now?
xavi: ok, I?m in
<br> thanks
jonnyb: it says you're online?
<br> :)
xavi: is this something different? (as far as validation of users is invloved) in tiki6?
<br> anyway, whatever
jonnyb: no idea, but i have validate email set
xavi: there I go for testing, and you for your ckeditor issues
<br> jonnyb, shall I test with firefox 3.6+ ?
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jonnyb: yes, that should be fixed now
xavi: I did read that you said that firefox issues with ckeditor might have been solved with some of your last commits
<br> ok, there I go then
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>xavi</u>: there is any reason to use class=reflect for the images on http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=File+Gallery+for+Images
<br> <u>xavi</u>: I think is the confusing and I'm planning to remove it
xavi: <u>rodrigo_sampaio</u>: just aesthetics :-)
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>xavi</u>: what do you think?
xavi: ok, I think that whatever bug is in align=Center should be fixed, regardless of class=reflect
<br> but do as you wish on that page
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>xavi</u>: for me is kind of "noisy" (ok, not the best word to describe) but nothing against keeping it if you prefer
Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3520 - - Unable to preview a wiki page if someone else is editing it - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3520
rodrigo_sampaio: <u>xavi</u>: right now I will just fix the page removing class=center and report the bug
<br> <u>xavi</u>: if I have some time in the next days I will try to fix the bug
xavi: nope, I'd like to keep it in pages like Tiki6 (dogfooding reflect), but if it causes issues in other pages such as this one that you say, go ahead
<br> <u>rodrigo_sampaio</u>: ok, thks.
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: where should I report issues on what I see?
<br> should I post them in a wiki page?
<br> or here on irc right now as I see them?
jonnyb: could do, or just mail me (or skype or pm or something)
<br> once it's all back in trunk we can use normal channels
xavi: ok
<br> img icon from external images are whon in live preview mode, and once page is saved, but I can't see it when editting the page in wysiwyg
<br> btw, is live preview a new feature in Tiki6?
<br> (I didn't see saything about5 it neither in Tiki5 nor in Tiki6 pages yet in doc.tw.o)
<br> I'll drop some lines about live preview wherever it's needed
<br> see http://alcns.net/xavi
Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3521 - - Align=center inside {img} tag breaks layout - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3521
jonnyb: <u>xavi</u>: email's probably best for more, but i'll add these to my lists
<br> live preview was in 5, but quietly
xavi: ok (mail, and live preview)
<br> live preview is nice (I hadn't use it much yet), specially those of us who work with dual screen
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jonnyb: my main question is shall i KIL fckeditor before merging back?
xavi: jonnyb, is fceditor meant to fully replace it?
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jonnyb: ckeditor replaces fckeditor
xavi: I mean, I guess that you don't expect regressions... but will it be problematic to leave them both while people test ckeditor in trunk?
<br> or it will be messy?
<br> since tiki6 is LTS....
<br> if there is any chance of issues that some things might not work because ckeditor doesn't support them (ie6? or whatever) but fckeditor does, I would leaven them both for Tiki6 LTS
<br> my 2cents
<br> otherwise, go ahead and kill already!
jonnyb: yes, there's always that possibility
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jonnyb: let's leave both in (but with ckeditor default for new installs)
xavi: +1
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xavi: wise decision
jonnyb: probably safest
xavi: yeah
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xavi: jonnyb, is it intended that when you re-open the page for edition (in wysiwyg mode) you don't see the images, but the wiki syntax from the images?
<br> I mean, while still in wysiwyg mode
jonnyb: yes, plugin entity coming soon
xavi: mmm, but it came from copy paste from somewhere else in wysiwyg mode
<br> so it's plugin entity or just <img src=...>?
<br> ok, maybe you convert it into plugin entity
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jonnyb: yes, htmltowiki converts
xavi: ok, quite nice so far. jonnyb: the main important (& annoying) issue so far is that the user looses some characters when the ajax refreshes the page
<br> see other minor issues here: http://alcns.net/xavi (converted into a report page)
jonnyb: really - like what?
<br> ok, ta
xavi: "like what" is written as "like at" if you are so lucky to be writting it when ajax refreshes
<br> ajax is hungry!
jonnyb: oh ok, i think i know what that is...
<br> is this in firefox?
xavi: "wh" is a snack for ajax, it seems
<br> yes
jonnyb: it's so slow now
xavi: I'll try in webkit also
jonnyb: :)
xavi: (chrome)
<br> oups, and lots of extra spaces.... when I open the page again but I'm afraid that you already know that, don't you?
<br> in front of butllet list items
jonnyb: yup, fixed that (not on that site yet)
xavi: ok
<br> ok, refreshing is veruy quick in chrome, it seems. I don't loose any char, at least with small pages
<br> I'll try with a longer one
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xavi: oups, table from a trackerlist plugin (from a tiki5 site) fully broken when pasted into a wysiwyg page in alcns.net
<br> ^jonnyb
<br> I'll add to the report page
jonnyb: does it work in fckeditor?
<br> if not then no regressions (and ok to merge)
xavi: mmm, hold on, I'll try again
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xavi: jonnyb, nope, sorry, tale well formated (as table), at least
<br> images inside table not shown. I'll report in my own report page
jonnyb: but what i'm saying is that if fckeditor (the old one) didn't handle that, which i expect then we're not going backwards
xavi: yes, yes, I understand
<br> and what I'm saying is that I have no idea with the previous fckeditor. just ckeditor worked for that table (at least)
<br> <u>jonnyb</u>: serious issue. converting simple wysiwyg page into wiki, breaks layout or bullets (asteriscs), etc.
<br> it can be reproduced easily here:
<br> open this page: http://alcns.net/xavi
<br> click on switch to wiki editor
<br> and that's it
<br> line breaks lost (it seems)
jonnyb: i probably have some commits coming
<br> sorry, drowning, please stop reporting errors :)
xavi: ok, :-)
jonnyb: it means i can't debug the ones i'm already fixing
xavi: ok, np
jonnyb: but thanks :)
xavi: back to other things
<br> welcome
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marclaporte: Can anyone help testing sound in live.tikiwiki.org?
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28544 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: [FIX] textareas: Better detect for Fx v >= 3.5 (to include 4.0 up)
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28545 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] ckeditor: Default to use ckeditor on new installs (old ones will continue to use fckeditor unless you set it in admin/wysiwyg)
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28546 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/ckeditor_tiki/plugins/tikiwiki/plugin.js: [FIX] ckeditor: Don't try and show ajax busy on the editor when doing ajax parse/unparse html as it loses keystrokes (thanks Xavi)
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28547 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/lib/wiki/editlib.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [MOD] parse_html: Preliminary handling of right aligned text (<p>s). Converts
<br> tikiwiki: them to {DIV(type="p",align="right")} plugins, which so far aren't parsed into
<br> tikiwiki: html at all, so look weird now in wysiwyg editor (but work when the page is
<br> tikiwiki: saved).
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28548 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] JS Notice
marclaporte: Can someone come and speak to us in live.tikiwiki.org (we are testing speakerphone)
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<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28551 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/ (11 files in 7 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 28526 to 28542
jonnyb: hi marclaporte - i'll try
marclaporte: topic is: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/5x_Webinar
-: marclaporte congratulates jonny for courage to tackle WYSIWYG
<br> jonnyb is sort of wishing he hadn't suggested it ;)
<br> chealer also congratulates apparent success
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28553 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 28542 to 28552
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CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28554 10/trunk/lib/ckeditor_tiki/ (33 files in 7 dirs):
<br> tikiwiki: [MRG] From wysiwyg_ckeditor_update branch - part 1 (the easy bits, new files only)
<br> tikiwiki: New ckeditor plugins: autosave, tikiwiki (htmltowiki parser) and _tikilink (will be replaced by ckeditor link dialog mods)
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28555 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js:
<br> tikiwiki: [MRG] From wysiwyg_ckeditor_update branch - part 2
<br> tikiwiki: Mainly rename areaname to area_id in tiki-jquery.js to be properly descriptive - should be no functional change and one bug fix.
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28556 10/trunk/ (8 files in 6 dirs):
<br> tikiwiki: [MRG] From wysiwyg_ckeditor_update branch - part 3
<br> tikiwiki: The main implementation of ckeditor code. Possible minor breakages to existing fckeditor functionlity but this should replace it (installer schema to come when stable)
<br> tikiwiki: Includes fix for the Firefox textarea selection issue (setting css body {display: block;})
chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: ping
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28557 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php:
<br> tikiwiki: [MRG] From wysiwyg_ckeditor_update branch - part 4: tikilib...
<br> tikiwiki: Mostly lessening the effect of $options['fck'] only used in experimental htmltowiki.
<br> tikiwiki: But also a few improvements to line end/paragraph handling in parse_data and properly stopping $options['noparseplugins'] from parsing the plugins.
<br> tikiwiki: Possible minor issues with workarounds currently in place expected.
<br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28558 10/trunk/ (. lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php):
<br> tikiwiki: [MRG] From wysiwyg_ckeditor_update branch - part 5 (last)
<br> tikiwiki: Toolbars: Implementation of dialog tools for ckeditor, more areaname to area_ia renames, fgal manager & switch editor.
<br> tikiwiki: Renames for new tools which will mean they won't appear for fckeditor - fixes to come shortly.
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marclaporte: <u>jonnyb</u>: is there a profile to test new WYSIWYG?
jonnyb: not yet sry
marclaporte: http://demo.tikiwiki.org/wysiwyg/
jonnyb: but set ckeditor, htmltowiki, wiki_para, wiki_para_br to "on" for best results
<br> is that on trunk?
<br> cos everything's merged now
marclaporte: yesm trunk
<br> clean install
<br> I have an expert that can test this
jonnyb: super (i know)
marclaporte: he has experience in breaking every single WYSIWYG engine
jonnyb: it still needs more stuff to handle plugins etc
<br> ask him to "go gentle" pls ;)
marclaporte: hehe
<br> he is a dog on a chain
<br> waiting to be unleached
jonnyb: if it's ckeditor stuff it should go back to them
marclaporte: unleashed rather
jonnyb: if we're going to switch to a different 3rd part thing it's another question (for tiki 7)
marclaporte: <u>wysiwyg_wiki_parsed</u>: y
<br> <u>wysiwyg_wiki_semi_parsed</u>: y
<br> ?
jonnyb: <u>semi</u>: n
<br> don't really get that one
marclaporte: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/WYSIWYG_6x
jonnyb: <u>wysiwyg_ckeditor</u>: y
<br> and optionally maybe wysiwyg_htmltowiki: y (work in progress)
<br> sorry, no strength to login ;)
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chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: could you explain fow the Cron feature works?
marclaporte: jonnyb : do you want feedback yet?
jonnyb: depends :)
<br> anything chewy by email
chealer: s/fow/how/
CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r28561 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-wysiwyg.tpl: [MOD] Since Paragraph formatting is relevant to WYSIWYG, adding to admin panel.
marclaporte: jonnyb : wysiwyg_htmltowiki needs Ajax, but if AJAX is off, it doesn't tell you or fall back gracefully (just grey box, instead of edit zone)
jonnyb: needs dependency in prefs setup
<br> there are a few of them... made a note
sylvieg: <u>jonnyb</u>: I have a lot of errors with the tikiparser in phpinit tests
jonnyb: arg - oops
sylvieg: <u>chealer</u>: I can explain tomorrow - not on my regular computer now
chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: OK, should I send you an email to remind you?
-: jonnyb runs unit tests and gets errors
jonnyb: :(
marclaporte: adds lots of br -> http://demo.tikiwiki.org/wysiwyg/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=wysiwyg_sample_page&history_offset=0&diff_style=sidediff&diff_style=sidediff&show_all_versions=y&compare=Compare&newver=0&oldver=1&paginate=on&history_pagesize=25
jonnyb: did u try wiki para format (& the other one)?
marclaporte: I have exactly a clean install + http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/WYSIWYG_6x
jonnyb: you need more prefs i think
<br> wysiwyg_ckeditor:y
<br> wysiwyg_memo:y is good too (essential really)
marclaporte: wysiwyg_ckeditor:y is already default in clean install
jonnyb: oh right (yes - bedtime, sry)
marclaporte: wysiwyg_memo as well,
<br> ok, good night
jonnyb: well, trying to fix the tests, so around a little while longer
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