#tikiwiki 2010-08-24,Tue

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Kimberlee	hello all.	[00:21]
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Kimberlee	hiya lindon. :-)	[01:22]
lindon_	hi kimberlee :) long time no see!	[01:23]
Kimberlee	indeed. I'm going to try to make it in Oct.	[01:23]
lindon_	excellent!	[01:24]
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lindon_	a family trip?	[01:25]
Kimberlee	no, just me this time. :-)	[01:25]
lindon_	that will be easier;)	[01:26]
Kimberlee	hopefully we won't have any accidents at home.	[01:26]
lindon_	that would be helpful oh...gotta go eat now	[01:26]
Kimberlee	enjoy.	[01:26]
lindon_	will say high to lawrence for you	[01:26]
Kimberlee	pls do!	[01:27]
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erdata	hello there i need some help am using tiki4.0, after i login as admin when i click on admin home nothing is shown what should i do?? the other thing is working fine	[01:50]
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erdata	!help	[01:54]
Tikiwiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .	[01:54]
erdata	!help "admin home" stop working after i upload to my server.it was working fine on my loacalhost(on my pc)	[01:56]
Tikiwiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .	[01:56]
Kimberlee	erdata: shared host server?	[01:57]
erdata	yes its shared host server sir	[02:00]
Kimberlee	i've seen this once when I ran out of my allocated space on a shared server after some big uploads	[02:02]
erdata	i think i have enough space, leme check it	[02:03]
Kimberlee	it wasn't a problem with the actual space but witht he hosted account just an idea - otherwise I don't have any suggestions. sorry.	[02:04]
erdata	thanks kim,but i have checked it n i have more than enough space	[02:05]
lindon_	kimberlee: how's the florida user group going?	[02:05]
erdata	n everything is working except "admin home" link	[02:06]
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erdata	help!!! please.........	[02:09]
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erdata	or any suggestion?wher should i go?? to get help on this matter	[02:10]
chibaguy	erdata, do you know how much PHP script memory your site has (not disk space)?	[02:12]
lindon_	does same thing happen if you go direct to tiki-admin.php?	[02:12]
erdata	yes same thing happens	[02:13]
chibaguy	Not enough memory for PHP script execution can cause blank pages. Also, if you're using Tiki 4.0, it'd be good to upgrade to at least a more recent Tiki 4 version, if not 5.1. For security reasons and bug fixes.	[02:15]
erdata	ok i will check the memory , thanks chilbaguy but for upgrading can i upgrade without afecting the database and user configurtion?	[02:17]
chibaguy	yes, the upgrade won't bother your configuration settings or data.	[02:18]
erdata	OK!	[02:18]
chibaguy	(but backup database just in case, is a good idea)	[02:18]
erdata	ok i will, thanks	[02:19]
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Kimberlee	lindon: sorry I'm so to multitask when I am tired :-) off to zzz night	[02:44]
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erdata	hey >cheibaguy i try to upgrade my memory limit from 64M to 100M but still the problem is there as i read from tikiwiki.org even 32M is enough i think is there anything i sould try?	[02:50]
luciash	tiki-admin.php?page=general enable PHP errors reporting	[02:54]
erdata	ok	[02:55]
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	>luciash still nothing happen no error even	[03:14]
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erdata	so >luciash ....	[03:20]
	any other suggestion please???	[03:25]
chibaguy	erdata, maybe try upgrading your installation and see if that helps.	[03:26]
erdata	that means replace all files and run new installtion right?	[03:30]
chibaguy	Yes	[03:30]
erdata	k	[03:31]
chibaguy	and click "upgrade" database and not "replace" in the install page.	[03:31]
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erdata	ok ok!	[03:33]
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chealer	chibaguy: did you see the recent commit from changi? on fivealive	[03:48]
chibaguy	chealer, no, I don't think so.	[03:49]
chealer	it's similar to the recent problem with 404 in the installer: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=28520	[03:49]
chibaguy	oh, ok. chealer, do you mean the r28520 change (aug 15) by changi, or another one since then?	[03:50]
chealer	chibaguy: yes, that one. I remember the problem was also with header.png	[03:54]
chibaguy	yes, I updated the CSS for the options after his commit, to use the correct image url.	[03:54]
chealer	chibaguy: hum, I notice http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=28528 now	[03:56]
chibaguy	yeah	[03:57]
chealer	chibaguy: oh, OK, all is fine then. I must trust your commits too much and not notice them as much ;-) thank you	[03:58]
chibaguy	sure, thanks for checking.	[03:59]
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coaboa	hello all	[09:48]
rockroach	Hi, I'm having a horrible time upgrading from 2.3 to 3.5. I though mysqldump and tar would be enough to back up tikiwiki, but it hasn't proved that way. Has any one got n idea why backups would not work? coaboa: Hi.	[09:49]
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coaboa	hi chibaguy admincoasig123 ups sorry	[09:53]
chibaguy	hi coaboa.	[09:55]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28691 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] trackerlist: Don't show checkbox submit button if no name or title supplied (e.g. for datachannels) tikiwiki: Also show example checkbox syntax in param list tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28692 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_datachannel.php: [MOD] datachannels: Let external params be specified by jQuery selectors, not just element id (so you can use arrays of values - more to come)	[10:08]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28693 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] trackerlist: Move some computation from smarty to php	[10:33]
	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28694 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] trackerlist: Move plugin template into the same place as the other wikiplugin templates	[10:42]
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karinqe	hi sorry, but do you know how to use tikiwiki syntax in a .tpl file? it doesn't get parsed :(	[12:03]
coaboa	you might look at: themes.tikiwiki.org/Template+Tricks there are a few examples.	[12:12]
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karinqe	wow, you don't know how long I searched for that coaboa, thank you :-*	[12:25]
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ricks99	@ karinqe: might also want to check out http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Customizing+Tiki+Themes for more tiki hints	[12:30]
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karinqe	ricks99, thanks	[12:32]
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	got any idea where to find documentation to the smarty command {wiki}? It lets you put in wiki commands, but creates <p></p> around everything.. and I would like to get rid of it :(	[12:56]
ricks99	do u have the "wiki paragraph formatting" option enabled?	[12:59]
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luciash	polom polom	[13:19]
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luciash	karinqe: still looking for this ? → http://j.mp/awh4ED	[13:23]
karinqe	luciash, I did it by using smarty's replace function, but it seems kind of wrong anyways	[13:25]
luciash	heh, well, that is only way in Pretty Trackers	[13:26]
karinqe	ricks99, wow this wouldn't come to my mind in this century...thanks, I turned it off and now it's OK	[13:26]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28696 10/trunk/styles/strasa.css: [MOD] strasa: slightly larger monospaced font for wikiedit	[13:26]
karinqe	luciash, pretty trackers seem kind of...weird	[13:27]
luciash	but most powerful for customization	[13:27]
karinqe	luciash, who decided it would be a good idea to generate the img tag too? seems odd yep	[13:27]
luciash	it's odd but for trackers themselves or plain trackerlist (no pretty tracker) it is only way to display the image	[13:28]
karinqe	hmm they could add the <img> tag only if no template is used...	[13:30]
luciash	in my wiki template i use: {eval var=$f_19\|regex_replace:'/<img src="/':'' assign=startimage}{eval var=$startimage\|regex_replace:'/" width.*/':'' assign=imgpath}<param name="FlashVars" value="flv={$f_16}&startimage={$imgpath}" /> mad, isn't it ? :-p karinqe: yep, good idea	[13:32]
karinqe	:P	[13:34]
luciash	what's yours ? ;)	[13:34]
karinqe	{assign var="fotka" value=$f_95\|replace:'<img src="':''\|replace:'" alt="" />':''} in this one	[13:35]
coaboa	hi luciash	[13:35]
luciash	karinqe: cool, thanks for sharing	[13:36]
karinqe	I don't like such hackarounds :(	[13:36]
luciash	karinqe: btw, are you czech ?	[13:36]
karinqe	slovak	[13:36]
luciash	:)	[13:36]
karinqe	you? :D	[13:36]
luciash	czech :)	[13:36]
karinqe	:D	[13:36]
luciash	hi coaboa yeah, i don't like hackarounds too :D karinqe: you're welcome to #tikiwiki-cz	[13:37]
karinqe	:) feature request: add param "don't_generate unnecessary tags" to trackerlist	[13:38]
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luciash	karinqe: looking at the tracker_item_field_value.tpl code... try {assign var="list_mode" value="csv"} before {$f_95}	[13:56]
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luciash	maybe lesser "hackaround" ? :)	[13:57]
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luciash	luciash wonders if you can pass the list_mode as param from the wikiplugin	[13:59]
karinqe	doesn't work :(	[13:59]
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luciash	hm :( ah, ./changelog.txt:31605:[FIX]trackerlist: showlastmodif + able to use list_mode for pretty tracker	[14:02]
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luciash	karinqe: {trackerlist list_mode=csv ...} should work but this is from trunk maybe it's not in 5.x	[14:05]
karinqe	works! yay luciash, :-*	[14:07]
luciash	just grepping branch5 and it is there :)	[14:07]
karinqe	finally I can sleep well :D	[14:07]
luciash	hehe	[14:08]
RyanWP	Hello all	[14:09]
luciash	hi RyanWP	[14:10]
karinqe	hi	[14:11]
RyanWP	...speaking of trackers... Is there an easy way to get data out of them integrated with the DB Report plugin? Or maybe there's a better way than the plugin I'm using the quiz module, and I want to display the results of the current user along with his/her group	[14:12]
luciash	luciash has no experience with db report plugin	[14:13]
RyanWP	I'm using the DB Report plugin to pull data out and format it nicely But it's got the users listed by login rather than name - name data is in a tracker	[14:14]
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luciash	RyanWP: did u try trackers with pretty tracker templates ?	[14:15]
RyanWP	No	[14:16]
karinqe	hmmm, speaking of which, is there some way to use trackers as database tables and do JOIN on them?	[14:16]
luciash	you can format the output from tracker nicely using custom wiki page or tpl file as well (via trackerlist wikiplugin) karinqe: i don't think so, there's just that item list and item link input field which can pull data from another tracker fields karinqe: kind of link them	[14:16]
karinqe	hm	[14:18]
RyanWP	The database is a problem	[14:18]
chealer_	polom	[14:18]
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RyanWP	I'm fine writing SQL, but not that good :) The dbreport plugin is already using some fairly complex sql, but I'd have to do some kind of join on the login for the tracker The problem is that the tracker doesn't store the login and the name in the same record	[14:18]
luciash	karinqe: see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Items+List+and+Item+Link+Tracker+Fields RyanWP: see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Pretty+Tracker	[14:20]
RyanWP	I'm looking at it I don't think it will work - I need other info that isn't in the tracker as well	[14:23]
luciash	RyanWP: ah	[14:24]
RyanWP	...I'd paste my DB report stuff, but I'm not sure how many lines I can paste before I get booted	[14:24]
luciash	RyanWP: but if you need only realName (as by user preferences) you can use maybe the smarty modifier RyanWP: paste on paste service and link here like paste-it.net	[14:25]
RyanWP	http://sit.pastebin.com/dZzciYqK	[14:26]
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RyanWP	I need users_users.login to be replaced with the user's real name from the tracker	[14:29]
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RyanWP	Hmmm i wonder if I can use another plugin within that plugin	[14:39]
luciash	i don't understand it... how you format the output ? is it the DB plugin formatting it automagically ? i see	[14:41]
RyanWP	Here	[14:44]
luciash	it has whole lot of custom formatting	[14:44]
RyanWP	Let me paste the whole dbreport http://sit.pastebin.com/FzvhjCXe	[14:44]
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jonnyb	polom (north)	[14:52]
luciash	hi jonny	[14:53]
jonnyb	hi luciash - how's things? not been getting much time online (due to being up at my sister's)	[14:54]
luciash	it's ok in north ? ?) :) how north is that ?	[14:54]
jonnyb	north of England only, not arctic or anything	[14:55]
luciash	ah :)	[14:55]
jonnyb	although it's not very warm here :)	[14:56]
luciash	neither nor way :)	[14:56]
RyanWP	You're in Norway, luciash?	[14:57]
luciash	nope :) middle of EU cz	[15:00]
RyanWP	Ah, so no lutefisk for you	[15:01]
luciash	RyanWP: i think the only way for you is to use some otehr JOIN and look up in the user_preferences table for the realName value or the tracker one RyanWP: but i am not good in SQL either, so ... lutefisk sounds fun	[15:02]
RyanWP	Hmmm - I wonder if I can join a table to itself... Nah, I'd have to do a right join. Let me see if I can play with it more Thanks for the help	[15:03]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28697 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_datachannel.php: [MOD] datachannels: Unset all non-user params, not just 'channel' (and minor indentation)	[15:24]
karinqe	I have kind of a complex problem I fail to solve since last week...Let's say I have a tree M. The leafs of M have additional data attached to them. Then I have a data table N (that I have already implemented using tracker & page selectors) The tree leafs can have zero or more connection to the table and the table items can have zero or more connections to leafs And I want to do 2 things with that: 1) Display the tree using something similar to displaying categories (with the + and - to open and close subcategories) ideally if it would be possible to show the table items that are connected with the leafs - node -- node --- leaf -----table item1 -----table item2 and so on 2) for each table item, show a list of all leafs from tree M, that are connected to that table item, + the data which are stored in the leafs	[15:38]
sylvieg	we have a jquery superfish - perhaps you can use it	[15:47]
luciash	karinqe: maybe you need jQuery treeTable ? → http://doc.tiki.org/treeTable&highlight=treetable	[15:48]
karinqe	hmmm I'll look at it[15:50] <CIA-65> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28698 10/trunk/ (10 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] blog post excerpt	[15:48]
luciash	Sug4r`: enlight luciash doctwo PluginTrackerlist	[15:50]
Sug4r`	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginTrackerlist	[15:50]
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karinqe	hm, forget what I said before...imagine I have a table with 3 fields, (page selector, leaf name, data) I would be able to do point 2) without problem but how would I construct point 1), the tree with attached page selectors at the leafs ? kind of like SELECT page_selector FROM table WHERE leaf_name=current_leaf btw, the best way to think about such things is to ask :D writing the problem down is a great help...	[16:10]
luciash	itemlist type which will list all page selectors attached to the leaf and item link in the other tracker which will link page selectors to leafs	[16:13]
karinqe	huh	[16:14]
luciash	or the other way around, i am not sure what you exactly need :)	[16:14]
karinqe	hm, currently I need to construct some tree (doesn't need to be stored as a tracker or anything), that would just ask at each leaf the SQL command I wrote that not such a big problem anymore, hmmm	[16:16]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r28699 10/trunk/templates/attachments.tpl: [UI]'id' should be capitalized as 'ID'	[16:44]
karinqe	is there some plugin to show a structure like a javascript tree? So a part of it could be opened or closed using some + and - buttons	[16:54]
luciash	karinqe: FADE karinqe: or the wiki syntax for H1 - H6 when you put + or - after !	[17:03]
karinqe	hmmm	[17:04]
luciash	like !!+ Nadpis H2	[17:04]
karinqe	but this would fetch the whole structure at once, wouldn't it?	[17:04]
luciash	yes, unless you use some AJAX magic	[17:05]
karinqe	:( that's what I was afraid of btw, are there some tracker filtering benchmars?	[17:05]
jonnyb	sorry - out of RAM - bibi	[17:08]
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karinqe	or - how fast/slow is it on a tracker with ~5000 items?	[17:09]
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ricks99	Q: is it possible to embed a module or use wiki syntax in a tiki HTML page? if so, how?	[18:23]
sylvieg	ricks99: yes of course in fckeditor - I always use plugin	[18:24]
ricks99	? can use fckeditor with tiki HTML page? im talking about tiki-admin_html_pages.php	[18:25]
luciash	nope HTML is ust static HTML but you can use only the dynamic zones or something (DCS ?) i am not sure what is it called there and even wonder the feature is still there i mean HTML pages s/ust/just/ it is very old and unmaintained feature	[18:38]
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ricks99	@luciash: sorry, got sidetracked... dynamic content zones can be included in Tiki HTML pages?	[19:29]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r28702 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_newsletter_subscriptions.tpl: [MOD] admin newsletter subscriptions: deploy tabs into this template	[19:43]
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Bilal	hi everyone Is Kaltura free software to use in TIKIWIKI ? I checked their website, they seem to be a paid software , please tell us do we need to buy it ?	[20:46]
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loobick	Hello. I use plugintabs in my wiki pages and looking for way how to access any of tabs on page directly from different page. is it possible? Example: I have "Page 1" and "Page 2". On "Page 2" are tabs "Overview" and "Details". I want to create link on "Page 1" to direct access "Page 2, tab Details". Is it possible or not?	[21:09]
luciash	hi loobick: yes	[21:21]
loobick	luciash: i think it but can not find how to do it	[21:22]
luciash	add param &cookietab= to your URL use number of tab you want to display	[21:22]
loobick	is possible to do it directly in wiki link? ((Page 2)) and add something?	[21:23]
luciash	nope, use internal link instead	[21:23]
loobick	ok. thank you thats what i tried to find last two weeks	[21:23]
luciash	[Page+2&cookietab=2\|Link to Page 2] if you don't use SEFURLs, you have to put full tiki-index.php?page=... path	[21:24]
loobick	i know. thank you. that was great answer	[21:25]
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luciash	np :)	[21:25]
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luciash	ricks99: yep	[21:27]
coaboa	when using pluginrandominclude it diplays "random" as pagetitle. is there an option to display the correct pagetitle?	[21:29]
luciash	coaboa: see lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin-randominclude.php for possible params	[21:30]
coaboa	oki to obvious ;-) thx, way too this day,better go to bed now.	[21:31]
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