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   Kimberlee: hello all.
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   Kimberlee: hiya lindon.  :-)
   lindon_: hi kimberlee :)
   <br> long time no see!
   Kimberlee: indeed.
   <br> I'm going to try to make it in Oct.
   lindon_: excellent!
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   lindon_: a family trip?
   Kimberlee: no, just me this time.  :-)
   lindon_: that will be easier;)
   Kimberlee: hopefully we won't have any accidents at home.
   lindon_: that would be helpful
   <br> oh...gotta go eat now
   Kimberlee: enjoy.
   lindon_: will say high to lawrence for you
   Kimberlee: pls do!
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   erdata: hello there i need some help
   <br> am using tiki4.0, after i login as admin when i click on admin home nothing is shown
   <br> what should i do??
   <br> the other thing is working fine
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   erdata: !help
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   erdata: !help "admin home" stop working after i upload to my server.it was working fine on my loacalhost(on my pc)
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   Kimberlee: <u>erdata</u>: shared host server?
   erdata: yes
   <br> its shared host server sir
   Kimberlee: i've seen this once when I ran out of my allocated space on a shared server after some big uploads
   erdata: i think i have enough space, leme check it
   Kimberlee: it wasn't a problem with the actual space but witht he hosted account
   <br> just an idea - otherwise I don't have any suggestions.
   <br> sorry.
   erdata: thanks kim,but i have checked it n i have more than enough space
   lindon_: <u>kimberlee</u>: how's the florida user group going?
   erdata: n everything is working except "admin home" link
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   erdata: help!!! please.........
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   erdata: or any suggestion?wher should  i go?? to get help on this matter
   chibaguy: erdata, do you know how much PHP script memory your site has (not disk space)?
   lindon_: does same thing happen if you go direct to tiki-admin.php?
   erdata: yes same thing happens
   chibaguy: Not enough memory for PHP script execution can cause blank pages.
   <br> Also, if you're using Tiki 4.0, it'd be good to upgrade to at least a more recent Tiki 4 version, if not 5.1.
   <br> For security reasons and bug fixes.
   erdata: ok i will check the memory , thanks chilbaguy
   <br> but for upgrading can i upgrade without afecting the database and user configurtion?
   chibaguy: yes, the upgrade won't bother your configuration settings or data.
   erdata: OK!
   chibaguy: (but backup database just in case, is a good idea)
   erdata: ok i will, thanks
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   Kimberlee: <u>lindon</u>: sorry I'm so to multitask when I am tired  :-)
   <br> off to zzz
   <br> night
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   erdata: hey &gt;cheibaguy i try to upgrade my memory limit from 64M to 100M but still the problem is there
   <br> as i read from tikiwiki.org even 32M is enough i think
   <br> is there anything i sould try?
   luciash: tiki-admin.php?page=general
   <br> enable PHP errors reporting
   erdata: ok
   <br> &gt;luciash still nothing happen
   <br> no error even
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   erdata: so &gt;luciash ....
   <br> any other suggestion  please???
   chibaguy: erdata, maybe try upgrading your installation and see if that helps.
   erdata: that means replace all files and run new installtion right?
   chibaguy: Yes
   erdata: k
   chibaguy: and click "upgrade" database and not "replace" in the install page.
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   erdata: ok ok!
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   chealer: <u>chibaguy</u>: did you see the recent commit from changi?
   <br> on fivealive
   chibaguy: chealer, no, I don't think so.
   chealer: it's similar to the recent problem with 404 in the installer: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&amp;revision=28520
   chibaguy: oh, ok.
   <br> chealer, do you mean the r28520 change (aug 15) by changi, or another one since then?
   chealer: <u>chibaguy</u>: yes, that one. I remember the problem was also with header.png
   chibaguy: yes, I updated the CSS for the options after his commit, to use the correct image url.
   chealer: <u>chibaguy</u>: hum, I notice http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&amp;revision=28528 now
   chibaguy: yeah
   chealer: <u>chibaguy</u>: oh, OK, all is fine then. I must trust your commits too much and not notice them as much ;-)
   <br> thank you
   chibaguy: sure, thanks for checking.
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   coaboa: hello all
   rockroach: Hi, I'm having a horrible time upgrading from 2.3 to 3.5. I though mysqldump and tar would be enough to back up tikiwiki, but it hasn't proved that way. Has any one got n idea why backups would not work?
   <br> <u>coaboa</u>: Hi.
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   coaboa: hi chibaguy
   <br> admincoasig123
   <br> ups
   <br> sorry
   chibaguy: hi coaboa.
   CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28691 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
   <br> tikiwiki: [FIX] trackerlist: Don't show checkbox submit button if no name or title supplied (e.g. for datachannels)
   <br> tikiwiki: Also show example checkbox syntax in param list
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   <br> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r28695 10/trunk/templates/tiki-plugin_trackerfilter.tpl: [KIL] Remove orphaned trackerfilter tpl (no edits since 2009)
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   karinqe: hi
   <br> sorry, but do you know how to use tikiwiki syntax in a .tpl file?
   <br> it doesn't get parsed :(
   coaboa: you might look at: themes.tikiwiki.org/Template+Tricks there are a few examples.
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   karinqe: wow, you don't know how long I searched for that
   <br> coaboa, thank you :-*
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   ricks99: @ karinqe: might also want to check out http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Customizing+Tiki+Themes for more tiki hints
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   karinqe: ricks99, thanks
   <br> got any idea where to find documentation to the smarty command {wiki}? It lets you put in wiki commands, but creates &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; around everything..
   <br> and I would like to get rid of it :(
   ricks99: do u have the "wiki paragraph formatting" option enabled?
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   luciash: polom polom
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   luciash: <u>karinqe</u>: still looking for this ? → http://j.mp/awh4ED
   karinqe: luciash, I did it by using smarty's replace function, but it seems kind of wrong anyways
   luciash: heh, well, that is only way in Pretty Trackers
   karinqe: ricks99, wow this wouldn't come to my mind in this century...thanks, I turned it off and now it's OK
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   karinqe: luciash, pretty trackers seem kind of...weird
   luciash: but most powerful for customization
   karinqe: luciash, who decided it would be a good idea to generate the img tag too? seems odd
   <br> yep
   luciash: it's odd but for trackers themselves or plain trackerlist (no pretty tracker) it is only way
   <br> to display the image
   karinqe: hmm
   <br> they could add the &lt;img&gt; tag only if no template is used...
   luciash: in my wiki template i use: {eval var=$f_19|regex_replace:'/&lt;img src="/':'' assign=startimage}{eval var=$startimage|regex_replace:'/" width.*/':'' assign=imgpath}&lt;param name="FlashVars" value="flv={$f_16}&amp;amp;startimage={$imgpath}" /&gt;
   <br> mad, isn't it ? :-p
   <br> <u>karinqe</u>: yep, good idea
   karinqe: :P
   luciash: what's yours ? ;)
   karinqe: {assign var="fotka"   value=$f_95|replace:'&lt;img src="':''|replace:'" alt="" /&gt;':''}
   <br> in this one
   coaboa: hi luciash
   luciash: <u>karinqe</u>: cool, thanks for sharing
   karinqe: I don't like such hackarounds :(
   luciash: <u>karinqe</u>: btw, are you czech ?
   karinqe: slovak
   luciash: :)
   karinqe: you? :D
   luciash: czech :)
   karinqe: :D
   luciash: hi coaboa
   <br> yeah, i don't like hackarounds too :D
   <br> <u>karinqe</u>: you're welcome to #tikiwiki-cz
   karinqe: :)
   <br> feature request: add param "don't_generate unnecessary tags" to trackerlist
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   luciash: <u>karinqe</u>: looking at the tracker_item_field_value.tpl code... try {assign var="list_mode" value="csv"} before {$f_95}
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   luciash: maybe lesser "hackaround" ? :)
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   karinqe: doesn't work :(
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   luciash: hm :(
   <br> ah, ./changelog.txt:31605:[FIX]trackerlist: showlastmodif + able to use list_mode for pretty tracker
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   luciash: <u>karinqe</u>: {trackerlist list_mode=csv ...} should work
   <br> but this is from trunk
   <br> maybe it's not in 5.x
   karinqe: works!
   <br> yay
   <br> luciash, :-*
   luciash: just grepping branch5 and it is there :)
   karinqe: finally I can sleep well :D
   luciash: hehe
   RyanWP: Hello all
   luciash: hi RyanWP
   karinqe: hi
   RyanWP: ...speaking of trackers...
   <br> Is there an easy way to get data out of them integrated with the DB Report plugin?
   <br> Or maybe there's a better way than the plugin
   <br> I'm using the quiz module, and I want to display the results of the current user along with his/her group
   -: luciash has no experience with db report plugin
   RyanWP: I'm using the DB Report plugin to pull data out and format it nicely
   <br> But it's got the users listed by login rather than name - name data is in a tracker
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   luciash: <u>RyanWP</u>: did u try trackers with pretty tracker templates ?
   RyanWP: No
   karinqe: hmmm, speaking of which, is there some way to use trackers as database tables and do JOIN on them?
   luciash: you can format the output from tracker nicely using custom wiki page or tpl file as well (via trackerlist wikiplugin)
   <br> <u>karinqe</u>: i don't think so, there's just that item list and item link input field which can pull data from another tracker fields
   <br> <u>karinqe</u>: kind of link them
   karinqe: hm
   RyanWP: The database is a problem
   chealer_: polom
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   RyanWP: I'm fine writing SQL, but not that good :)
   <br> The dbreport plugin is already using some fairly complex sql, but I'd have to do some kind of join on the login for the tracker
   <br> The problem is that the tracker doesn't store the login and the name in the same record
   luciash: <u>karinqe</u>: see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Items+List+and+Item+Link+Tracker+Fields
   <br> <u>RyanWP</u>: see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Pretty+Tracker
   RyanWP: I'm looking at it
   <br> I don't think it will work - I need other info that isn't in the tracker as well
   luciash: <u>RyanWP</u>: ah
   RyanWP: ...I'd paste my DB report stuff, but I'm not sure how many lines I can paste before I get booted
   luciash: <u>RyanWP</u>: but if you need only realName (as by user preferences) you can use maybe the smarty modifier
   <br> <u>RyanWP</u>: paste on paste service and link here
   <br> like paste-it.net
   RyanWP: http://sit.pastebin.com/dZzciYqK
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   RyanWP: I need users_users.login to be replaced with the user's real name from the tracker
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   RyanWP: Hmmm
   <br> i wonder if I can use another plugin within that plugin
   luciash: i don't understand it... how you format the output ?
   <br> is it the DB plugin formatting it automagically ?
   <br> i see
   RyanWP: Here
   luciash: it has whole lot of custom formatting
   RyanWP: Let me paste the whole dbreport
   <br> http://sit.pastebin.com/FzvhjCXe
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   jonnyb: polom (north)
   luciash: hi jonny
   jonnyb: hi luciash - how's things?
   <br> not been getting much time online (due to being up at my sister's)
   luciash: it's ok
   <br> in north ? ?)
   <br> :)
   <br> how north is that ?
   jonnyb: north of England only, not arctic or anything
   luciash: ah :)
   jonnyb: although it's not very warm here :)
   luciash: neither nor way :)
   RyanWP: You're in Norway, luciash?
   luciash: nope :)
   <br> middle of EU
   <br> cz
   RyanWP: Ah, so no lutefisk for you
   luciash: <u>RyanWP</u>: i think the only way for you is to use some otehr JOIN and look up in the user_preferences table for the realName value or the tracker one
   <br> <u>RyanWP</u>: but i am not good in SQL either, so ...
   <br> lutefisk sounds fun
   RyanWP: Hmmm - I wonder if I can join a table to itself...
   <br> Nah, I'd have to do a right join.  Let me see if I can play with it more
   <br> Thanks for the help
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   karinqe: I have kind of a complex problem I fail to solve since last week...Let's say I have a tree M. The leafs of M have additional data attached to them.
   <br> Then I have a data table N (that I have already implemented using tracker &amp; page selectors)
   <br> The tree leafs can have zero or more connection to the table
   <br> and the table items can have zero or more connections to leafs
   <br> And I want to do 2 things with that:
   <br> 1) Display the tree using something similar to displaying categories (with the + and - to open and close subcategories)
   <br> ideally if it would be possible to show the table items that are connected with the leafs
   <br> - node
   <br> -- node
   <br> --- leaf
   <br> -----table item1
   <br> -----table item2
   <br> and so on
   <br> 2) for each table item, show a list of all leafs from tree M, that are connected to that table item, + the data which are stored in the leafs
   sylvieg: we have a jquery superfish - perhaps you can use it
   luciash: <u>karinqe</u>: maybe you need jQuery treeTable ? → http://doc.tiki.org/treeTable&amp;highlight=treetable
   karinqe: hmmm
   <br> I'll look at it[15:50] &lt;CIA-65&gt; tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r28698 10/trunk/ (10 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] blog post excerpt
   luciash: Sug4r`: enlight luciash doctwo PluginTrackerlist
   Sug4r`: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginTrackerlist
   karinqe: hm, forget what I said before...imagine I have a table with 3 fields, (page selector, leaf name, data)
   <br> I would be able to do point 2) without problem
   <br> but how would I construct point 1), the tree with attached page selectors at the leafs
   <br> ?
   <br> kind of like SELECT page_selector FROM table WHERE leaf_name=current_leaf
   <br> btw, the best way to think about such things is to ask :D
   <br> writing the problem down is a great help...
   luciash: itemlist type which will list all page selectors attached to the leaf and item link in the other tracker which will link page selectors to leafs
   karinqe: huh
   luciash: or the other way around, i am not sure what you exactly need :)
   karinqe: hm, currently I need to construct some tree (doesn't need to be stored as a tracker or anything), that would just ask at each leaf the SQL command I wrote
   <br> that not such a big problem anymore, hmmm
   CIA-65: tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r28699 10/trunk/templates/attachments.tpl: [UI]'id' should be capitalized as 'ID'
   karinqe: is there some plugin to show a structure like a javascript tree? So a part of it could be opened or closed using some + and - buttons
   luciash: <u>karinqe</u>: FADE
   <br> <u>karinqe</u>: or the wiki syntax for H1 - H6 when you put + or - after !
   karinqe: hmmm
   luciash: like !!+ Nadpis H2
   karinqe: but this would fetch the whole structure at once, wouldn't it?
   luciash: yes, unless you use some AJAX magic
   karinqe: :(
   <br> that's what I was afraid of
   <br> btw, are there some tracker filtering benchmars?
   jonnyb: sorry - out of RAM - bibi
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   karinqe: or - how fast/slow is it on a tracker with ~5000 items?
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   ricks99: <u>Q</u>: is it possible to embed a module or use wiki syntax in a tiki HTML page?
   <br> if so, how?
   sylvieg: <u>ricks99</u>: yes of course in fckeditor - I always use plugin
   ricks99: ? can use fckeditor with tiki HTML page?
   <br> im talking about tiki-admin_html_pages.php
   luciash: nope
   <br> HTML is ust static HTML but you can use only the dynamic zones or something (DCS ?)
   <br> i am not sure what is it called there and even wonder the feature is still there
   <br> i mean HTML pages
   <br> s/ust/just/
   <br> it is very old and unmaintained feature
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   ricks99: @luciash: sorry, got sidetracked... dynamic content zones can be included in Tiki HTML pages?
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   karinqe_: gn
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   Bilal: hi everyone
   <br> Is Kaltura free software to use in TIKIWIKI ? I checked their website, they seem to be a paid software , please tell us do we need to buy it ?
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   loobick: !help
   Tikiwiki|bot: You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
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   loobick: Hello. I use plugintabs in my wiki pages and looking for way how to access any of tabs on page directly from different page. is it possible? Example: I have "Page 1" and "Page 2". On "Page 2" are tabs "Overview" and "Details". I want to create link on "Page 1" to direct access "Page 2, tab Details". Is it possible or not?
   luciash: hi
   <br> <u>loobick</u>: yes
   loobick: <u>luciash</u>: i think it but can not find how to do it
   luciash: add param &amp;cookietab= to your URL
   <br> use number of tab you want to display
   loobick: is possible to do it directly in wiki link? ((Page 2)) and add something?
   luciash: nope, use internal link instead
   loobick: ok. thank you
   <br> thats what i tried to find last two weeks
   luciash: [Page+2&amp;cookietab=2|Link to Page 2]
   <br> if you don't use SEFURLs, you have to put full tiki-index.php?page=... path
   loobick: i know. thank you. that was great answer
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   luciash: np :)
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   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: yep
   coaboa: when using pluginrandominclude it diplays "random" as pagetitle. is there an option to display the correct pagetitle?
   luciash: <u>coaboa</u>: see lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin-randominclude.php for possible params
   coaboa: oki to obvious ;-) thx, way too this day,better go to bed now.
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