so, "à chaque jour suffit sa peine", bye all people and thanks for support, I will come back tomorrow ;)
re
I am looking for the "function" to "switch on or off" the links in the header like in tiki.org on the very top: info documentation development community etc.
anybody could tell me whats the name, I am looking for, or where I can do the setting?
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hello all.  :)
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r29281 10/mods/trunk/themes/litejazz_tiki_5/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [NEW] LiteJazz theme updated for Tiki 5.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r29282 10/mods/trunk/themes/litejazz_tiki_5/templates/styles/litejazz/tiki-site_header_top.tpl: [NEW] LiteJazz theme updated for Tiki 5 (file left out of commit).
Hello. I have weird problem related to uploading images to my tiki. When I choose a file from my hard drive and click upload, it will upload the image without problems and for example image gallery says that upload succesful. How ever, the image in the server is broken, it just shows broken image on chrome and nothing on firefox. When I compare the original picture with the file in the server, it seems that the file in server is about 500 bytes smaller. What might be re
hello tikiverse
reg hidden/oerlaped css menu: I using a custum Home (html) but I found that if I use the  a working if/ else to swithc the modules menu if user it get overlaped. If I remove the line and use the menu straight it works as it should.
MODULE: {if $user}{menu id=45} css=y type=vert} {else}{menu id=43} css=y type=vert}{/if} 
using this causes the first sublevel to be hidden by the center column
MODULE: {if $user}{menu id=45 css=y type=vert} {else}{menu id=43 css=y type=vert}{/if}  sorry thts the line 
it switches the menu correctly and all themes are effected. so probably a css menu problem in trunk 
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polom
Any clues related to my problem of incorrect image uploads? I've been wondering that one reason might be faulty usage of imagemagic in converting the images but I'm not exactly sure how upload in tikiwiki works
hi
hi tiki's world :)
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r29283 10/mods/trunk/themes/mittwoch_tiki_5/ (. Readme.txt styles/ styles/mittwoch.css templates/): [NEW] Mittwoch theme updated for Tiki 5 (file left out of commit).
polom
pooloom
heeloo chibaguy 
hii luciash
pretty cool: http://ietherpad.com/tiyUU560u4
luciash, do you know gobby/sobby ?
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olinuxx: nope :)
luciash, http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/
same things with architecture client/server
olinuxx: AH, YUP, SORRY, I KNOW gOBBY
oups
sorry
;)
for caps
no problem
str: make sure your db character encoding is set to utf-8
hi liciash hi olinuxx
hi chibaguy
hi coaboa ;)
chibaguy: do you have a glue why a css menu get hidden by the center column when using: {if $user}{menu id=45 css=y type=vert} {else}{menu id=43 css=y type=vert}{/if}
yonixxx: quite soon I will install (or let install) a BBB - any tips from you, to lower the pain? We are free to use the OS we want or thats recommended for BBB
the second level is effected
Ive a bbb inst with ubuntu 1004 worked perfect (only avoid to install apache or webserver via tasksel)
hi coaboa
coaboa, no, I don't. Does it work ok if you just use one of the menus (no if statement)?
yes the work and all themes are effected
this menu is in the left column?
y
luciash: Where do I change that, mysql config or tikiconfig?
coaboa, did you check the page with firefox/firebug?
not sure what I should look after as all the themes are effected?
str: mysql
As far as I know, all themes have the same column properties regarding overflow and z-index, etc. so would behave the same probably in a case like this.
It's hard to imaging why the if/then would cause such a behavior.
imaging -> imagine
str: tiki 5 ?
there is: SORT_COLUMN_INDEX undefined
I revertet it to a none-switched menu, but maybe one of you guys can reproduce it (trunk current)
luciash: Yes. I added lines "collation_server=utf8_unicode_ci" and "character_set_server=utf8" to /etc/mysql/my.cnf under mysqld and restarted the mysql, but images still get broken when trying to use db
str: you have to set it on your tiki database tables
str: but maybe just go to tiki-install.php via your browser
str: then fix it on the upgrade step
str: there is a tool for it
Does it save what's in the database right now?
str: u have backup of your db, right ?
So I just remove the "lock"-file from db-folder and rerun installer?
yep
in the installer then just skip to the upgrade step
if your db is in different encoding than utf-8, it should warn you and offer the conversion
coaboa: I'd like to test that, but it will have to be later.
coaboa: Is it easier to use {if $user} to switch menus than to use the perms on menu items on one menu?
(i can see how it would be easier in some cases, for sure)
It seems it was latin1
luciash: I pressed "Convert database and tables to UTF-8" and it loaded the same page without any messages, is that what it's supposed to do?
luciash: Then I just hit "Upgrade" ?
login /l ogout. the login link have to be visible for anon but stays visible when logged in. If there is a perm way I would prefere itbut all I tested did'nt worked 
i see
life could be so simple, but ;-)
too bad {if $user} can't go in the menu item name.
(i never  tried that)
luciash: It didn't break anything but it didn't convert to utf-8 either
menu link url: {if $user}logout{/if}  ?
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29284 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] ckeditor: Add processing for view source to parse the wysiwyg plugin code back to wiki syntax (and then back again to html for ckeditor).
yes
the menu links then towards: {if $user}logout{/if} -> not found
seems tiki does not interpret menu links or the syntax is different
luciash: I tried manually, it still fails. I took mysqldump of current db with "mysqldump -u myuser -p mydb > mydb.sql", then I converted it with "iconv -f iso-8859-15 -t utf8 mydb.sql > mydb-utf8.sql", then moved it back to db with "mysql -u myuser -p mydb < mydb-utf8.sql"
luciash: When I go to tiki, I can clearly see that the encoding has changed, but file and image uploads still fail and the tiki-install.php claims that the database encoding is latin1
polom
polom xavi 
coaboa: yes, it seemed unlikely to work, somehow.
how's the work tsunami?
jonnyb or any jquery master: how can I extend the jquery syntax in PluginJQ to add values by default to fields only if that field is empty? (not preloaded by tracker item content in the same field already saved previously)
"tsunami"?
basic syntax described in http://doc.tiki.org/PluginJQ#Example 
but I'm missing: "in case field 22 is empty, preload with this value"
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29285 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Kaltura: xhtml - style does not belong to body
hi xavi
hi coaboa
hi jonnyb
if (!$("#f_42).val()) { $("#f_42).val("your data hare"); }
hi coaboa 
have to go out now - back in about an hour...
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29286 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_kaltura_browse_entries.tpl: code - tags cleanup
repeat for xavi:     if (!$("#f_42).val()) { $("#f_42).val("your data hare"); }
bibi
ah, thanks jonnyb
too many tabs and windows here (thanks for the "beep" - name)
str: ah it was iso-8859-15, hmm, good that you figured it out with iconv but no clue why the file uploads still don't work, maybe someone else here ?
luciash: Might it be that either apache or php is still forcing everything to non-utf8?
wohoo, for the record (typos fixed), that's the syntax:
if (!$("#track_81").val()) { $("#track_81").val("foo or bar"); } if (!$("#area_82").val()) { $("#area_82").val("first line of text\nsecond line\nthird line"); } 
and it works nicely! thanks jonnyb!
(for the record, I know jonnyb is not here right now :-) )
xavi: I do not udnerstand your problem with import fileds
Nah, I gave up, I store the files to harddrive
str: have you checked if my.ini does hve the default_character_set set to utf8? Usualy when windows client such as phpmyadmin connects mysqlclient uses latin but unix client connection prefers utf8.  
coaboa: Yes, it's now "character_set_server=utf8", "collation_server=utf8_unicode_ci" and finally "skip-character-set-client-handshake" to avoid it being anything else than utf8
oki sorry
str, I think file system storage is better anyway.
sylvieg: ok. skype?
skype voice or text?
voice?
so sylvie-greverend
btw, doc updated: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginJq#Prefill_tracker_fields
ok
str: ah, i understood that it doesn't work for you with filesystem storage (harddrive) either ? :-o
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29287 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX] debug thx sept7
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r29288 10/mods/trunk/themes/mollio_tiki_5/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [NEW] Mollio theme updated for Tiki 5.
millio and mittwoch in tiki5! thanks chibaguy!
s/millio/mollio
luciash: No, it works fine with it, but for some reason I kinda thought that it would be nice to use database instead of filesystem, but on second thought, less db fragmentation and my files are browsable with simply pointing to the correct folder. But anyway, big thanks for help! :)
You're making excellent wikisoftware and keep up good work, I bet my company will have a lot of leverage thanks to it.
sure, xavi, my pleasure.
not too much to change between 4 and 5, and won't be between 5 and 6, fortunately.
luciash: just realizet you wrote the randominclude plugin. thx for that. The problem with it is, that it does not display the page title. What about using redirect instead of include. Would  a wikiplugin_randomredirect solve the problem with the pagetitle?
but some old versions like tikipedia (tiki 3) are taking a while.
xavi:  did you get your JS thing sorted? sorry i had to dash out...
jonnyb: sure, thanks! with typos fixed here: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginJq#Prefill_tracker_fields (fyi)
jonnyb, and any similar trick to show/hide a few fields depending on ceheckboxes in previous fields using jquery magic?
like the effect on tiki-install.php, when you say you want to re-install db, but for checkboxes
anyway, I have to rush myself now...
c u all
yes, easypeasey
:)
bbl2 (forgot to get the milk!)
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tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29289 10/trunk/lib/prefs/wysiwyg.php: wysiwyg admin: Some extra help text and descriptions.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29290 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/ (179 files in 91 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 29197 to 29287
 Info: TikiFest Tampa: Introducing the Florida Tiki Users Group (and beyond!) - http://info.tikiwiki.org/article111-TikiFest-Tampa-Introducing-the-Florida-Tiki-Users-Group-and-beyond
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29291 10/trunk/lang/pt-br/language.php: pt-br translation
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r29292 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Take care of correct dependencies for feature_wiki_save_draft and ajax_xajax
re-polom
hi luciash 
hi jonny :)
coaboa: i don't remember that i wrote that plugin
coaboa: you must mixed me up with someone else :-p
commit 28705 + your name have to go bbl
coaboa: 28705 just says "typos" in the commit message
coaboa: so i don't know why you presume i wrote that plugin
coaboa: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_randominclude.php?view=log&pathrev=28705
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29293 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: [FIX] textarea: Missing word (minutes) and logic fix
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29294 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] ckeditor: Cope with inserting images when nothing selected in ckeditor.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29295 10/trunk/templates/tiki_full.tpl: [FIX] ajax: Missing #role_main (broke ajax on fgal manager popup)
jonnyb: ah, thanks for the last one
could be ;)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29296 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.tree.php: [FIX] fgals: Maintain filegals_manager param on gallery explorer tree and deploy self_link.
oh, misread - might be "the last one" (as in last bug like that?)
jonnyb: last one listed by CIA here ;)
ping marclaporte
pong 
oh. nvr mind. find what i needed. tx
email to sf dev list going out shortly.
will stagger in groups of 50 from info@tw.o account
luciash: ah the typo note isn't visible in my print out. sorry about that
hey marclaporte - have you checked out the preview/diff thing yet?
how do I activate?
I tried, but didn't find
ricks99: good stuff!
marclaporte: switch on auto save
:)
hello
is it possible to use Tiki Importer on the command line?
hello - I have a white page
???
I did change a menu from php-layers to css and I did not type in the type ({...type=}
)
no access to the site anymore
whatto do?
server -> phpMyAdmin? -> find table and change manually?
fabricius: yes
uhhhh
luciash: is the fault that I changed, or that I forgot type=vert ?
and do you know what table? I hope I find it
no idea
@fabricius: in a module?
yes
problem was with a new module
See http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Updating+Tiki+Preferences
"Fixing Modules" section
btw. I cannot switch off title and decorations and box, by using the params (with the quickedit-module that worked)
ah ok ricks thx
I am using coelesce by the way - not yet any changes made
ricks99: thanks a lot, that was kind of quick help
site is up again ;-)
very common issue
what I do not understand: it is Tiki5, new virgin-like DB with utf8 as standart -> and I find latin1_swedish collatation in the module-table in my DB
how that?
shouldn´t be, or?
depends. what encoding did u specify when u created the db?
I've just discovered it, many thnaks for my futur and my neurons ! 
\o/
ricks99: as far as I can see it should have been utf8
jonnyb: i tried, but it wasn't sticking (1-2 days ago)
none of the pref changes we sticking
that's odd
in admin/wyiwyg?
@fabricius: when u create the db (before installing tiki) u need to specify encoding
jo
marclaporte, j'ai une proposition à discuter avec toi et les francophones ici présent ( sylvieg notamment), en fr si possible
ricks99: and when db tells me it was in utf8, I think it would be fine
(sorry for non-french speakers :) )
ricks99: but I am not a phpmyadmin pro at all - just learning - so it may be my fault (or blindness) and I´ll look into that
olinuxx: pas de problème
@fabricius: via phpadmin u can set the encoding
the encoding setting is just below the CREATE db field
ricks99: just thought, Tiki5 would not work with latin1 any more
fabricius, ;)
marclaporte, sylvieg dites moi quand vous avez 5 mins
will work just fine (with just aabout any encoding). issues arrive, however, if u ahve multiligual sites
if ur db uses different encoding, need to update the db/local.php file to match
so I will have to look deeper into that, because multilinguality will definitely be necessary for some of the sites
see http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Essential+Installation+Tips for info
my db/local.php includes a line: charset=utf8  or so
thx again
$client_charset='utf8'; thats in my local php
is ur db actually in utf-8
mom, I am on the way to check
had to give a feedback comment to essential
have beenasked by your site ;-)
tx :-)
my db seem to tell me very clearly, that it is in utf8 german (de-utf-8) aswell as general (utf8_general_ci)
seems, sorry, bad spelling
or some kind of gramattical issue
in fact just misstyping
so back to my db
startpage of phpMyAdmin (inside contol center of the webspace) -> utf8
somewhere in tables of the mySQL db -> latin1_swedish_ci all over the place
was this a brand new db?
ok, I did check several tables now - all and only latin1 - yes she was a virgin
and when u created the virgin db, u specified utf8?
made up, checked -> utf8 
let me do s.th -> about 1 minute
re
I am back
the process to make it up is kind of automatical
no possibility to interfere the collatation
so I made a TEST DB right now and have to wait for some minutes
hmm... are u creating the db from phpadmin? in my version, i have a setting to allow specification of enodign
k
NOPE - I am creating from my providers conrol center - after having created the db I get acces to it via phpMyAdmin
control center
polom
ahh
so when I have it, I tell u the very first settings
db will be empty, without any tables
then I´ll import the tiki.sql or what it´s name is - if u want
hi chealer 
hi fabricius
so, the db is there ricks99 
u may need to check with your host, if they use a unique Cpanel application to create new db
check with them to see how to specify the encoding
you mean I should call them?
would be fine, cause we have a fine 24/7 hotline ;-)
anyway, the new db now has NO table an tells me it would be in utf8
k. so the encoding for the new, empty db is utf8?
YES
and I tell u what now:
I did download the tiki.sql from a fresh unzipped Tiki5.1
you should now be able to use the tiki installer. when u create the tables, select the USE UTF ENCODING optin
that I imported into the database and have stated, that the file would be in utf8
check the sql. see what encoding is specified
after the import, I looked into some  tables of the db and guess, what collatation I did find
so you are restoring an existing Tiki db (the SQL dump) into this new db?
if so, the encoding specified in the SQL dump will be used when creating the tables fromthe dump
In this case, I did not make an fresh installation, like with the site were I crashed the module - instead I imported the tiki.sql dump to check what happens with the new tables
guessed? - all new tables have latin1 collatation
y. because that is apparently the encoding specified in the tiki.sql dump
this is as-designed
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29297 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [ENH]maketoc: params level to specify which level you want in the maketoc
aha
when importing a sql dump, the encoding form the DUMP is used -- may override the encoding of the exiting db
but why there would be a latin1-tiki-sql for manual installation be in a Tiki5 package, when latest since Tiki5 utf8 is strictly recommended?
I do not understand that
and I told mySQL to keep its suggestion utf8
but Ok, if inside the dump it is latin1
BUT
why the same happens with my new installation, where I did NOT use the tiki.sql ?
Something seems to be wrong there
i cannot duplicate your issue. i created a new db as UTF8. I ran the tiki installer and selected the FORCE USE UTF8 option. when i examine the db, all tables are utf8, as expected
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29298 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] ckeditor: Better handling of selection (or lack of one) when inserting plugins.
and if u import the tiki.sql?
AND where I find the FORCE USE UTF8 option?
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29299 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] tooltips: check lib has loaded in convertOverlib.
with 1und1.de so far I have to use an existing database connection due to a different localhost adress -> so set it up manually and then create the db/local.php manually - then start the installer and use existing db
the TIKI.SQL file (if installing manually) does not specify encoding. it will use whatver your default sql connection encoding is deifined as.
ok thats fine then
if you are unable to set the defaults via phpadmin, you may need to check with your hosting provider
I´ll do that right now
maybe your default connection is set as latin?
good luck
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29300 10/trunk/lib/ckeditor_tiki/plugins/ (tikiplugin/plugin.js tikiwiki/plugin.js): 
tikiwiki: [ENH] ckeditor: Better processing for view source - don't show loading, pass data on to ckeditor functions for further processing.
tikiwiki: Still calling this code when it's not needed internally by ckeditor - monitor for problems.
hopefully not!
hope this helped
thx ricks99 will tell u
in the end I will have to bring it in to the tikidocs and the 1und1.de customers forum ;-)
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dogwalk, bbl
hi - first time here - can I confirm this is working?
can anyone tell me where the template or text for the confirmation email is -- whats the name of file please?
hi Will - working but quiet :)
thanks
they're all in templates/mail i think
(there are several)
yubb - that was it - thanks much !
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29301 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_article.php: [FIX] article plugin: Incorrect absolute url for image.
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29302 10/trunk/tiki-calendar.php: [FIX]calendar: in calmode always display the calendar boxes even if the viewdays of the viewed calendars are empty
@all should I use utf8 general or utf8 unicode?
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29303 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_article.php: [FIX] article plugin: incorrect xhtml
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29304 10/trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_value.tpl: [FIX]smarty: syntax
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29305 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: textarea: Move around some commented code used for debugging - no change
check tiki_p_download for the various groups
on admin->permissions
mediawiki import help needed! after import it just goes back to the same page, no error messages, nothing imported
ricks99: problem solved
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r29306 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Add mapview buttons for tracker filter to switch to map view and back
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29307 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_kaltura_entries.tpl: [FIX] Kaltura entries: remix permission + couple of other little things (xhtml, tr)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29308 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] ckeditor: more checking of selection
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29309 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_kaltura_browse_entries.tpl: code cleanup
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3548 - - tiki-login.php generates 404 error - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3548
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29310 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_kaltura_browse_entries.tpl: what will happen if we omit the external hardcoded stuff ? ;)
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r29311 10/trunk/tiki-view_forum.php: Code presentation
Hello, it there anyone who could help with a Tikiwiki email problem?
when TikiWiki sends mail, it shows html comment tags in the email subject and body Ex: <!-- TPL: mail/user_validation_mail.tpl -->, how do I get rid of that? (these tags as far as I know are not in the templates)
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r29312 10/trunk/tiki-setup.php: [FIX] correct dependencies of feature_wiki_save_draft and ajax_xajax
@netwarden: you need to turn off the "Smarty Template usage indicator" option
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29313 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.duration.php: [FIX] maxLevel for duration smarty modifier works independently of user current language (was working only for English)
so whats the best way to go about setting up a custom homepage? I've got a basic one set-up from the tutorial but it's still defaulting to tiki_index.php
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29314 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/ (24 files in 11 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 29287 to 29312
berserkr: try admin/wiki
admin/wiki?
sorry - the wiki section of the admin page
tiki-admin.php?page=wiki
ah ok 
@berserkr: see http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Configuring+the+Home+Page too
made sure CustomHome was enabled 
yeah I used the http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Using+a+Custom+Page&structure=TikiWiki+for+Smarties tutorial to set everything up
make sure u clear the cache
the browser cache or the wiki cache?
tiki cache
ok cleared the cache still hasn't changed
er .. ricks99  as the principle probelem is solved now (a certain operation has to be clicked - just a certain ok-button) I have another question
my installation I started to fill with contend is sadly based on latin1 now
can I translate them existing tables inside the db into utf8, or ...
... would it be a possible solution to export the db and import with different collatation?
hello
hi
i see somebody have problem with text encoding. i do not see beginning of thread but i had also some issues when migrating to different server
my problem is nearly solved - perhabs I can help u
can you resend question?
uhhh I would have to search for it in the logfile
what is your problem - give a short description
my problem is different. i made plugin and it do not work correctly
you said you have a server-migration problem
i just saw that you had problem with text encoding in mysql and in my case i had to reencode it from latin1 to utf8
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29316 10/trunk/templates/ (blog_post_navigation.tpl blog_post_postbody_content.tpl): only replacing <a> with {self_link} (thanks sept_7)
thats what I would have to do in some case to reuse developing-dbs for the final project
that was the last question, I had
a db, with some content but sadly latin1 encoded
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29317 10/trunk/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] CSS for related blog posts was broken after someone changed the HTML structure
new dbs I can now create in utf8
but how to transform an existing latin1 one into utf8
loobick: 
all databases i used said its utf8 but all works only with latin1.
in tikiwiki you can change it in installer
what provider you have? I had exactly the same problem with 1und1.de
i hade 3 different and everywhere i had same problems
I cannot change it in the installer, because with 1und1 the installer cannot write the local.php
fabricius: even if it has 777 ?
first was pipni.cz, second was endora.cz and now i use private service. all said that db is in utf8 but in all cases it was latin1
then you can use converter
so I have to write it manually before starting the installer and there connect to the existing one
which OS you use
luciash: - ah the old 777 problem - we could check that, to make 1und1 more common and the tiki community more powerful there ;-) 
loobick: some debian
loobick: r u cz ?
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r29318 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Allow syncronizing of user tracker item categories with the user groups that the user is in
loobick: with 1und1 support just this evening I got it clear how to force utf8 - I just had to push the 'ok' button in the 'operations' field ... was kind of hidden
yes. i am from cz
on ubuntu you can use iconv
loobick: so perhabs with your provider(s) you have to tell the phpMyAdmin explicitly, that you want utf8, even as it shows it everywhere as "recommended"
am not sure if its installed by default but its in standard stable repository
loobick: u r welcome to #tikiwiki-cz then ;)
will try
loobick: we need more czech (and slovak) Tiki users
but back to my problem
polom :)
@ricks99 is there any steps  I may have missed in trying to set-up my custom home?
Sug4r: hi bot :)
hi luci
:-)
loobick: go ahead
i create plugin to generate wiki code but there is some problem. when i use it in wiki page then everything else disappear and content generated by that plugin is only what i see. everything else on that page is not there. i used plugindiv as base and only change parameters and required plugin-related names
maybe you saw something similar and can tell me where i made mistake
loobick: make sure everything is closed properly ?
i checked it twice
template and everything else is correct, only nothing else than content of that plugin is there
in the template, if you use {} in a JS code, make sure it is surrounded by {literal}...{/literal}
i do not use javascript, only select data from database and return it in format i need
loobick: do u have php error reporting enabled on Admin > General ?
thanks. am new to tikiwiki and i forgot to turn it on
maybe that will tell you more
hi again here, is it possible to use {INCLUDE} throught 2 website ?
olinuxx: don't think so, maybe the SNARL plugin (or wth it is called)
mmm thanks luciash, I'll go to check it
re, now back to converting a latin1 db into utf8
should I do that with a softwar on my home-pc?
I have win7 at home
MrNdx: and all show up for Admins ?
fabricius: the installer has a tool for that at step 5
MrNdx: do u have them categorized ?
MrNdx: weird, r they stored in db or in filesystem ?
chealer: then I would have to try to set the installer to 777 - i am not experienced in that
where I set him to 777? and with CGI or what?
sry about my reluctance to know the stuff
fabricius: via ftp you set the db/local.php file to readwrite "by all" (makes it 777) - but if you said you have it created manually, it should be no problem to run the installer and ski to step 5
MrNdx: no idea then, sorry
fabricius: why would you need to set the installer to 777 :?
luciash: thx, ok, I´ll try to get there now ... but anyhow HOW to set 777 in local.php?
chealer: he meant local.php
chealer: because luciash suggested
i didn't
i suggested only the file
db/local.php
chealer:  yes, I meant local.php, cause luciash sugested - Imentioned wrong
as you said installer didn't work because it couldn't write into it
luciash: and chealer: yes, local.php, not the installer
:-D
ahhhh
fabricius: well, even local.php doesn't need to be set 777 to use the installer
so a start again: I will now start the installer (include deletion of lock-file) and try to get to step5
chealer: I do not know ... I just do know, that with all-inkl.com, I can mostlikely go through the installer and with 1und1.de I have to setup the local.php manually before, due to a different localhostaddress
chealer: in fresh install, yes, if it cannot create (write to the dir) better to create empty local.php and set it 777 than having the whole dir writable, nope ?
fabricius, luciash: I must have missed part of the conversation. I thought you were trying to convert an existing DB.
fabricius: i wonder how it created the lock file ...
I mean, the DB for an existing install
;)
luciash, I read the plugin SNARF, it's ok, thanks ;)
np :)
luciash, there isn't a plugin for include an page of another tikiwiki than the mine ?
mmm, with reflexion, it's not possible :/
because, I don't have an access to other database that the mine
luciash: chealer: sorry, exwife called to adjust the contact to my little son ;-)
reflexion ?
luciash: I just need to make up the local.php, prevented the PHP5 is set => then the installer works fine, included creating the lock file
weird it allows write the lock file but not the local.php
maybe server security config because it is *.php ?
luciash: chealer: with 1und1.de the localhost is named localhost:/tmp/mysql5.sock - that seems to be the problem, why the installer does not goes Through the hole lot automatically
and yes, the first admin, who tried to get Tiki running on our 1und1 managed server (a profeesional btw) investigated a certain uncommon security setting ... unfortunately he did not get it running and 1und1 had given up that time
luciash, I just made a translation http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=GreffonSnarf of the wikipage http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=PluginSnarf, but it seem they're no linked, what's this ?
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29319 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_kaltura_browse_entries.tpl: code cleanup - removing the external JS references and other stuff (it did not work anyway) TODO: make better thumbnails navigation based on something we already have in Tiki (jQuery)
olinuxx: Greffon means Plugin in your language ?
yes
ah :)
some weeks later I said IMPOSSIBLE and worked with the 1und1 Support about nearly two weeks every day and in the end we found the solution I am working with right now
olinuxx: no idea, try  to link them now
me ? I have to link them ? how to make this ?
by choosing the page via Translate link
fabricius: u're brave you didn't give up ;)
ok luciash it's done
thanks ;)
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r29320 10/trunk/ (10 files in 4 dirs): [NEW] Allow show map mode buttons in page and articles listings
luciash: thx ... in the meantime, I tried the installer till step 5 and there, he bolluxed my installation uhhh
eh, what means bolluxed ?
oh sorry, that is a very bad word in irish english ... in Ireland it is not so bad and just means s.th. like fucked up
ah :D
bolluxes are the testikles of a bull - so sorry for that kind of wording
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29321 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [ENH] wikiplugin_include: Direct link (icon) to create/edit included page, and send back to initial page after edit.
tikiwiki: Also, don't show edit icons within the included page.
well, what it means, the installer is f...d up or the Tiki ?
I´d say the database :-)
hmm, how come ? u mean after running the utf8 conversion ?
thats why I used that word ;-)
some kind  between step 4 and 5, where I read - alwas force db to use utf8
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29322 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_kaltura_mix_entries.tpl: code cleanup + some missing tr
ahhhh ay ay ay luciash it seems, that I have a second chance :-D
NOT boll ...äh fucked
so u say u have utf-8 everywhere now but the conversion made things worse than they were ? hopefully u have your db backup at your hands
ah, ok, good luck
No No ... the problem was just easy peasy that I HAVE TO use the existing connection under all circumstances
So I checked the db-tables -> still there, still in latin1_swedish
then I started the installer again, accepted the existing connection, that magically apeared again ;-) 
and found the announced utf8 conversion
pressed the button
then pressed the db-update button
great
and now I could kiss the world - would probably have to write more documentation
everything works fine ... in utf8
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r29323 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_include_look.tpl: [ENH] Making enabling/disabling fixed-width more prominent because it's an integral part of choosing a theme
thx all for evry step of a help
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29324 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_kaltura_mix_entries.tpl: [FIX] Kaltura entries list: sort missing &amp;
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29325 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_include.php: [ENH] wikiplugin_include: nopage_text & pagedenied_text params
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29326 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_include.php: [FIX] wikiplugin_include: WYSIWYCA perms test on edit button
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r29327 10/trunk/styles/ (coelesce/options/community.css coelesce.css): $ Visual improvements
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29328 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] parse_data: Don't wrap single line in <p> (e.g. for use in include plugin)
nn all
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29329 10/branches/experimental/wysiwyg_ckeditor_update/ (29 files in 12 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 29312 to 29328
errr ... I have a logout problem within t.o ... I am always logged out after very short time ... only a few minutes or less
anybody knows?
fabricius: tiki.org or tikiwiki.org ?
oh I try to take tiki.org where possible - moment
fine
actually tiki.org
i will fix the cookie name
community
ah ok
whatsoever that means, thx
;-)
lets see if it will work now
grrrr wrote a PM and ... gone due to logout
should remember 1 week
sorry, that's because i changed the cookie domain name
fabricius: please relogin
kk
different site?
different module!
what
the community page looks a bit different now
huh
the new-mail-module is not top left, but second left now
top left is the translation-info-module
that's just a hallucination ;)
ah Ok
I accept that ;-)
the translat modula appears only on pages which has translations :)
*translate module
sometimes magic stuff happens since I work with Tiki
was that cz?
anyway
I have another question ... I am full of them
on the top of the header, there are some links, similar to a Top bar, but in tiki.org they link to the other project-Tikis
I did not find where to activate that in my installation and I did not find how to do the settings for that in the documantation
I even do not know, how that area of the header is called
anybody can tell me?
luciash: ?
it is custom code on Admin > L&F > second tab
"Secondary site menu custom code: "
we have {menu id=45 css=y type=horiz} there
super
and is it possible ... my very next focus from next week on ... to change Top-Bar (and perhabs 2nd site menu) from perspective to perspective?
so every perspective another Top-Bar?
I hope
sylvieg: you need to put them on line which has set line-height: 50px; vertical-align: middle i think
I tried this one ....
sylvieg: i think the object (image) should be then aligned vertically
I think the only way is to ply with positionning but I am not good with that
fabricius: i hope too :)
sylvieg: i seen an example somewhere
i thought it was here: http://www.wellstyled.com/css-single-line-vertical-centering.html
sylvieg: maybe not exactly what u need
sylvieg: if u give me link to wiki page i can try
do u know max width height the image thumbnails can have ?
hello. where can i send bug report? i create plugin which do not work correctly. i was not able to repair it for last few days. today i tried to rewrite it and with different name it works without any problem. only difference is that with new one i wrote shorter texts in info function
I can set a max as it is tracker img
loobick: http://dev.tiki.org/Report+A+Bug
thanks
luciash: problem solved - I went for a table and 2 hours to try to vertically align imgs is gone in 2 mns .. css is nice but painful sometimes
*g*
loobick: please note if you copy & paste to start your own plugin based on another one, all plugin name references in it must be unique
unique in the scope of your Tiki in lib/wiki-plugins/
" i wrote shorter texts in info function" .. I think you need only use alpha letters
was a long time ago - perhaps it changed
have to go ... at least for a while
luciash: in both cases it was based on another plugin. and both are same, only those names and few description texts are different. so all plugin name references was correct in both cases
maybe db field length limitation ?
that is why i asked for bug report, because i think its something else, not plugin itself
sure, np
one is wikiplugin_filmshort (working badly), another is wikiplugin_afilm (works correctly)
loobick: be sure you did not mispell the hep function / the 'real' function
each plugin needs a xxxx_help a xxxx and if you miss one - forget the plugin
send me your e-mail and i will send you both plugins
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29330 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_kaltura_browse_entries.tpl: when (X)AJAX on, it does not render the JS part; trying with Smarty JQ block ...
@ricks99: Thank you, found it under General Preferences -> Add HTML comment at start and end of each Smarty template (TPL).
<netwarden> @ricks99: Thank you, found it under General Preferences -> Add HTML comment at start and end of each Smarty template (TPL).
Q: anyone have experience integrating webex api with tiki?
even just basic stuff... being able to retrieve a list of scheduled presentations, and click-thru registration?
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29331 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_kaltura_browse_entries.tpl: should go via headerlib like common JS (notonready)
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r29332 10/trunk/tiki-list_kaltura_entries.php: i18n
hi ricks99, i don't even know webex
big commerci web meeting (like bbb)
ah
im diggin thru their api now